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QURAN 17:1
Sahih International : Exalted is He who took His Servant by night from al-Masjid al-haram to al-Masjid al- Aq§a, whose surroundings
We have blessed, to show him of Our signs. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Seeing
WHY DID YOU MISQUOTE THE QURAN PLS MOSJID AQSA IS CLEARLY STATED THERE DID YOU THINK QURAN IS LIKE THE BIBLE Catholic bible is 73 BOOKS..Protestant bible is 66
BOOKS...Good news version is 81 BOOKS
QURAN IS DIRECTLY REVEALED FROM GOD NOT FABRICATED BY MAN PLS READ THE ARABIC TRANSLATION BELOW

in addition to what i posted
I found that the strange teachings about God that one finds
throughout the Bible are completely and unequivocally missing from
the Quran. For the sake of brevity, only a few examples illustrating
this point shall be given.
The New International Version of Genesis 3:8-11, reads,“Then the man
and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in
the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God
among the trees of the garden. (9) But the LORD God called to the
man, “Where are you?” (10) He answered, “I heard you in the garden,
and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.” 11 And he said, “Who
told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I
commanded you not to eat from?”
Here, God is pictured as walking in the garden in the cool of the day.
What is even more astonishing is that Adam and Eve were able to hide
from God and he had to ask, “Where are you?” If a human is able to
hide from Him in the garden, how is it that this Lord is going to have
knowledge of the sins that people commit? It would be difficult for
any human to gender in his heart the kind of love and fear of God that
he should have when he believes that his God is so faulty and weak
that an event like this could occur to him.
In Genesis 32:24-28, there is the story and literal description of Jacob
wrestling with and defeating God. In verse 28, it says,
“You [Jacob] have wrestled withGod and with men, and you have
won.” In other words, the creator of the universe whom mankind is
expected to worship and submit to was defeated by a mere mortal in a
wrestling match.
The Old Testament even picturesGod as one who intended to do evil
but then repented. Exodus32:14states:
“And the Lord repented of theevil which he thought to do unto his
people” ( KingJames Version ). It would not be surprising for anyone to
turn away from God and not consider Him worthy of worship if He
himself has to repent from His own evil.
The Old and New Testamentsdistort the image of the prophets and
defame them. Some prophetsgot drunk! Some showed their unclothedness
to others! Some pretendfoolishness! And some fornicate and commit
adultery!
In the Qur'an, these distortions are non-existent. The reader to the
Qur'an will find continuous glorification to the prophets of God
because they are the `God-Elects' and they are the most righteous of
all men.

The similarity between the Holy Quran and the Holy Book doesn't
mean that the Holy Quran borrows from them , it means that both
came from the same source.......but bible has been tampered with
I THINK THIS IS ENOUGH PROOF TO PROVE TO YOU THAT
ALL PROPHETS ARE FROM GOD AND THEY CAME TOPREACH TOTAL SUBMISSION TOGOD UNCONDITIONALLY WHICH IS ISLAM.....SO WHEN YOU SEE JESUS AND OTHER PROPHET OWING DOWN THEIR HEAD DONT BE SUPRISED BECAUSE ALMIGHTY ALLAH SEND THEM
"Know they not Allah Knoweth what they conceal and what they reveal? And
there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book, but (see therein
their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. Then woe to those
who write the Book with their own hands, and then say: 'This is from
Allah,' To traffic with it for a miserable price! Woe to them for what their
hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (The Noble Quran,
2:77-79) "
"O Apostle! let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief:
(whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose
hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,-
will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They
change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, 'If ye are
given this, take it, but if not, beware!' If any one's trial is intended by God,
thou hast no authority in the least for him against God. For such - it is not
God's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and
in the Hereafter a heavy punishment. (The Noble Quran, 5:41) "
"But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made
their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places
and forget a good part of the message that was sent them, nor wilt thou
cease to find them- barring a few - ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive
them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for God loveth those who are kind.
(The Noble Quran, 5:13) "
That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false
charge; That they said (in boast): 'We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary,
The Messenger of Allah.' But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but
so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full
of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow , for
of a surety they killed him not. Nay, Allah raised him up Unto Himself; and
Allah Is Exalted in Power, Wise. And there is none of the people of the book
(Jews and Christians) But must believe in him (Jesus) Before his death; And
on the Day of Judgment He (Jesus) will be a witness Against them. (The
Noble Quran, 4:156-159) "

mustang44: I await your fabricated and false answers!

in the first place you said quran was copied from bible i will in the first place prove you wrong note;i m quoting with scientific proof
Example 1: Local vs. Universal Flood during Prophet Noah (pbuh):
The Bible tells of a universal flood during the time of the prophet Noah (pbuh) in the Book of
Genesis, Chapter # 7: “Every living thing that moved on the earth perished, birds, livestock, wild
animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that
had the breath of life in its nostrils died”.
The Qur'an mentions a local flood affecting the people of Noah only: " Is it too much of a wonder
that a reminder should come to you from your Lord, through a man like you, to warn you, and to
lead you to righteousness, that you may attain mercy? They rejected him. Consequently, we saved
him and those with him in the ark, and we drowned those who rejected our revelations”. (Qur'an
7:59-64)
There is no evidence of a worldwide flood in the time specified by the Book of Genesis. The closest
event was discovered in 1929 by the archeologist Sir Charles Leonard Wooley, when he found
evidence of a flood which occurred around 4000 B.C. In his book “The Bible as History” Werner
Keller says: "A flood of the unimaginable extent described in the Bible still remains 'archeologically
not demonstrated" (pp.29-30)
So how would the author of the Qur’an have avoided this mistake unless the revelation came from
the initiator of the flood Himself?
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Example 2: Moses and the Pharaoh:
Another comparison will again demonstrate that the Qur'an was not copied from the Bible.
The Bible states that God drowned the Pharaoh and his army when they pursued Moses (pbuh) and
his people:
“And the waters returned, and covered the chariots, and the horsemen, and all the host of Pharaoh
that came into the sea after them; there remained not so much as one of them” Exodus 14:28.
The clear indication in that description is that the body of the Pharaoh perished in the sea.
The Qur’an agrees that God drowned the Pharaoh and his army when they pursued Moses.
However, the Qur'an dared to differ and prove true. In the Qur'an God promised to preserve the
body of the Pharaoh after having drowned him as a sign for later generations "…Today, we will
preserve your body, to set you up as a lesson for future generations. Unfortunately, many people
are totally oblivious to our signs. “(Qur’an 10:90-92).
As God promised in the Qur’an, the Pharaoh’s body was discovered at Thebes in the Valley of the
Kings by Loret in 1898. Elliot Smith removed its wrapping on July 8, 1907 and wrote a detailed
description in his book The Royal Mummies (1912).
In the late 1970s, President Anwar El-Sadat allowed the loan of the pharaoh’s mummy to Paris to
be studied. The Chief Surgeon in charge of the project was Dr. Maurice Bucaille.
Among the discovery made by the scientific team in Paris was the pharaoh’s cause of death: "… The
salt remnant in his body was the biggest evidence that he died drowning, and his body was
extracted from the sea after drowning immediately. Then quickly they carried and embalming
process of the body in order to preserve it…"
Dr. Maurice Bucaille was so fascinated by the discovery that he devoted himself to learning the
Arabic language in order to be able to read the Qur'an in its original text and to study its meaning.
In 1976 he wrote a book titled: “The Bible, the Qur’an and Science” which caused a furor in high
academic circles, particularly in the Christian world. In his book, Dr. Bucaille aimed to prove that the
Qur’an is in agreement with scientific facts, while the Bible is not. He claimed that in Islam, science
and religion have always been “twin sisters”. Also and according to Dr. Bucaille, there are
monumental errors of science in the Bible and not a single error in the Qur’an, whose descriptions
of natural phenomena make it compatible with modern science. Dr. Bucaille concluded that the
Qur’an is the reliable word of God.
So from which source could the author of the Qur’an have obtained the information that Pharaoh’s
body (who was already dead for centuries) was being preserved somewhere in Egypt, when the
method of mummification used by the ancient Egyptians was unknown until fairly recently? How
could Muhammad (pbuh) predict that the Pharaoh’s body would be discovered centuries after his
death as a sign? Furthermore, with no mention of this in the Old or New Testaments, how could
Muhammad (pbuh) have copied it from the Bible?


3. Category 3: Scientific proofs:
Let us analyze how the Qur’anic verses which accurately foretell modern scientific ideas in the
seventh century imply divine authorship.
What the Qur’an says about the embryonic stages:
“And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth). Thereafter We
made him (the offspring of Adam) as a Nutfah (mixed drops of the male and female sexual
discharge) and lodged it in a safe lodging (womb of the woman). Then We made the Nutfah into a
clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We
made out of that lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it
forth as another creation. So blessed be God, the Best of creators.“ (Qur’an 23:12-14)
When Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was asked about this verse, he added:
“After the sperm-and-ovum drop (Nutfah) has been (in the uterus) forty-two days, God sends it an
angel that gives it form and fashions its hearing, sight, skin, flesh, and skeleton”
Modern science has confirmed this: organogenesis peaks at precisely 42 days.
So if Muhammad (pbuh) could not have copied it from the Bible, could he have written the Qur’an
himself? Let us see what scientific experts have to say:
Dr. E. Marshall Johnson : Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Developmental Biology at Thomas
Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA:
"The Qur’an describes not only the development of external form, but emphasizes also the internal
stages, the stages inside the embryo, of its creation and development, emphasizing major events
recognized by contemporary science. I see no evidence for the fact to refute the concept that this
individual, Muhammad, had to be developing this information from some place. So I see nothing
here in conflict with the concept that divine intervention was involved in what he was able to write.”
Dr. T. Persaud : Professor of Anatomy, Professor of Pediatrics and Child Health, and Professor of
Obstetrics, Gynecology, and Reproductive Sciences at the University of Manitoba, Winnipeg,
Manitoba, Canada:
“...Muhammad .. could not read, didn’t know to write. - You have someone illiterate making
profound pronouncements - amazingly accurate about scientific nature. So many accuracies - I
have no difficulty in my mind that this is a divine inspiration or revelation which led him to these
statements.”
Dr. Gerald C. Goeringer : Director and Associate Professor of Medical Embryology at the Department
of Cell Biology, School of Medicine, Georgetown University, Washington, DC, USA:
“In a relatively few Qur’anic verses is contained a rather comprehensive description of human
development from the time of commingling of the gametes through organogenesis. No such distinct
and complete record of human development, such as classification, terminology, and description,
existed previously. In most, if not all, instances, this description antedates by many centuries the
recording of the various stages of human embryonic and fetal development recorded in the
traditional scientific literature."
Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson : Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Professor of
Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Professor of Molecular and Human Genetics at the Baylor College
of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA:
“I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can
guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist
statements in the Qur’an shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Qur’an
having been derived from God

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Did Mohammed read the Red Sea scroll , which remained hidden in
one of the caves of the Dead sea and only were found in the 1948 ?Did
Mohammed read the codices of Naga Hamadi in Egypt and that were
only found a few years ago?
Did Mohummed read the Bible of Judas which was found recently in
Egypt and only translated into English a few years ago in US . This
bible in conformity with the Holy Quran concerning the story of
Crucifixion , it states thatit was not Jesus who was crucified and
some one else was

AbuuUthaymeen: All the verse you posted to Educate this people still won't make them desist from spewing trash and labelling all Muslims terrorist,they and the western media are only interested in promoting statements,utterances and the atrocities committed by this extremist. A brother even asked why are this people more interested in promoting terrorism by ignoring statements of middle course Muslims? Allah's help is sought.
https://www.nairaland.com/1911391/muslim-scholars-appeal-isis-release#26572546 visit this link

jazak bro seriously those guys are funny.......all what they do is to criticize they never want to learn

yazach: You can never get it when you fail to understand the fact that the post was meant for excellent entity not dullards, and beside if you score more than D7 in English, it must be as a result of cheating

lolz they will still come here to give you excuse that your post is too long.............nice one bro

proo212: And finally



Mr Abdulsalam, there is compulsion in religion...I didnt say it, the guideline for Sharia law (reliance of the traveller) from the Shafi school of thought says it. This was certified by the highest authority in Sunni Islam, Al-Azhar University in Cairo.

Not sure what the Hanbali, Maliki and Hanafi schools think but I dont expect them to be different since they agree on a lot of the legal conclusions


And to think that you guys want Sharia to rule the world........Like I said in earlier posts, its not rocket science that there will be bloodshed at some point

IMAGINE THE PERSON I AM ARGUING WITH SAYING SOMETHING WITH DOUBT PLS DID U READ THE POST I POSTED?.......IF YES THEN U SHOULD COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION

PLEASE DID YOU KNOW THAT JESUS ORDER US TO FOLLOW THE TORAH OF MOSES ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT THE SHARIAH ESTABLISH IS SUPPIRTED BY TORAH OF MOSES
"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to
abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to
abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until
heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the
least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from
the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew
5:17-18) " It is quite clear from these verses from the New
Testament that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the Old
Testament and did say that every single "letter" of it has to
be honored, followed and fulfilled.
"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to
his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit
in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything
they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not
practice what they preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3) " We clearly
see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not
prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only
warned his followers to not follow it the way the current
religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were
following it.
THE WORLD NO MORE EXPERIENCE PEACE BECAUSE WE NO MORE FOLLOW THE WILL OF GOD WE ONLY FOLLOW OUR WISH EVEN JESUS CONFIRM THOSE LAWS

malvisguy212: good qustion,just ready to read a very long note from him,the guy is adicted to copy and paste long note. In most of his post, he was calling christians antichrist, i ask him" what is christ? If you are not an antichrist, dos that mean you believe in christ?" the guy just went to copy and paste long note for me, the answer he gave me was funny, he was trying to say allah is christ.

I PITY YOU YOU SAID I COPY LONG ARTICLE PLS THE FACT IS YOU CANT EVEN PROVE ME WRONG I QUOTED OTH BIBLE AND QURANIC VERSE
U ASK FOR THE DEFINITION OF ANTICHRIST I GAVE IT TO U
A GUY EVEN GAVE ME A VERSE IN THE BOOK OF JOHN WHICH DEFINE WHO ANTICHRIST ARE AND I PROVE TO HIM THAT HE IS THE REAL ANTICHRIST
ANTICHRIST IS SIMPLY DONT WHO DONT FOLLOW THE TEACHING OF JESUS AND WE MUSLIM FOLLOW IT MORE THAN U HYPOCRITES
SO MAN!......WATCH YOUR MOUTH IF U CANT PROVE ME WRONG DONT QUOTE ME I ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS THE ONLY EXCUSE YOU GAVE WAS THAT THE POST IS TOOLONG ..THATS HYPOCRACY MAN!

THE ABOVE FATWA REFERS TO THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT IN WHICH THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) FOUGHT
AGAINST OTHER NATIONS. THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD DID NOT INITIATE AGRESSION AGAINST ANYONE, RATHER HE AND HIS FOLLOWERS
WERE UNDER ATTACK FROM ALL WHO SOUGHT TO CRUSH THE NEW ISLAMIC STATE. THE FIRST HOSTILITIES BETWEEN THE MUSLIMS AND
THE ROMAN EMPIRE BEGAN WHEN THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S MESSENGER TO THE GHASSAN TRIBE (A GOVERNATE OF THE
ROMAN EMPIRE), AL-HARITH BIN UMAYR AL-AZDI, WAS TIED UP AND BEHEADED (AL-MUBARAKPURI, AR-RAHEEQ AL-MAKHTUM ,
P. 383). THE KILLING OF A DIPLOMAT WAS AN OPEN ACT OF WAR, AND THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD SENT AN ARMED FORCE TO
CONFRONT THE TRIBE, BUT THE ROMAN EMPIRE BROUGHT IN REINFORCEMENTS AND THE RESULTING CONFLICT, KNOWN AS THE BATTLE OF
MUT'AH, WAS A DEFEAT FOR THE MUSLIMS. ONLY AFTER THIS DID SUBSEQUENT BATTLES BETWEEN THE MUSLIMS AND THE ROMAN
EMPIRE OCCUR, AND THE MUSLIMS EMERGED VICTORIOUS. LIKEWISE, AS MENTIONED IN THE ABOVE FATWA, HOSTILTIIES BETWEEN
THE MUSLIMS AND THE PERSIANS ONLY BEGAN AFTER THE PERSIAN EMPEROR CHOSROE ORDERED HIS GOVERNOR IN YEMEN
BADHAM, TO KILL THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH, ALTHOUGH HIS EFFORTS WERE THWARTED WHEN THE LATTER ACCEPTED ISLAM.
OTHER NON-MUSLIM GROUPS, SUCH AS THOSE IN MADINAH, ALSO INITIATED HOSTILITIES AGAINST THE MUSLIMS DESPITE PEACE
TREATIES AS SHAYKH SAYYID SABIQ WRITES:
AS FOR FIGHTING THE JEWS (PEOPLE OF THE SCRIPTURE), THEY HAD CONDUCTED A PEACE
PACT WITH THE MESSENGER AFTER HE MIGRATED TO MADINAH. SOON AFTERWARDS, THEY
BETRAYED THE PEACE PACT AND JOINED FORCES WITH THE PAGANS AND THE HYPOCRITES
AGAINST MUSLIMS. THEY ALSO FOUGHT AGAINST MUSLIMS DURING THE BATTLE OF
A`HZAB , THEN ALLAH REVEALED… [AND HE CITES VERSE 9:29] (SAYYID SABIQ, FIQHU
AS-SUNNAH , VOL. 3, P. 80)
IN LIGHT OF THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THIS VERSE, IT BECOMES VERY CLEAR THAT THE VERSE WAS REVEALED IN CONNECTION WITH
AGRESSION INITIATED AGAINST MUSLIMS. AS DR. JAMAL BADAWI VERY ACCURATELY CONCLUDES WITH REGARD TO VERSE 9:29 AND
SIMILAR VERSES:
ALL OF THESE VERSES, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, IF STUDIED CAREFULLY, ADDRESS AGGRESSION
AND OPPRESSION COMMITTED AGAINST MUSLIMS AT THE TIME OF THE PROPHET (PEACE
AND BLESSINGS BE UPON HIM), WHETHER BY IDOLATROUS ARABS, SOME OF THE JEWISH
TRIBES IN MADINAH, OR BY SOME CHRISTIANS. ( SOURCE)
THEREFORE, THE COMMAND TO FIGHT IN VERSE 9:29 RELATES TO THOSE NON-MUSLIMS WHO COMMIT AGRESSION AND NOT THOSE
WHO ARE COMMITTED TO LIVE IN PEACE. THE VERSE IS SUBJECT TO CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT WERE APPARENT WHEN IT WAS
IMPLEMENTED IN THE TIME OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH, AS SHAYKH SAYYID SABIQ WRITES:
WHAT WE HAVE STATED MAKES IT CLEAR THAT ISLAM DID NOT ALLOW THE INITIATING OF
HOSTILITIES, EXCEPT TO: 1. REPEL AGGRESSION; 2. PROTECT ISLAMIC PROPAGATION; 3.
DETER FITNAH AND OPPRESSION AND ENSURE FREEDOM OF RELIGION. IN SUCH CASES,
FIGHTING BECOMES A NECESSITY OF THE RELIGION AND ONE OF ITS SACRED
ORDAINMENTS. IT IS THEN CALLED, ‘JIHAD’. (SAYYID SABIQ, FIQHU AS-SUNNAH , VOL.
3, P. 81)
THE VERSE THEN PROCEEDS TO MENTION SOME ISSUES RELATING TO THE ISLAMIC STATE, AND GOVERNING NON-MUSLIM CITIZENS OF
THE ISLAMIC STATE. DR. MAHER HATHOUT COMMENTS ON THE REGULATIONS IN VERSE 9:29:
FREEDOM OF RELIGION IS AN ESSENTIAL ASPECT IN AN ISLAMIC STATE. ONE OF THE FIVE
PILLARS OF ISLAM IS ZAKAT (ALMSGIVING). THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK (CHRISTIANS AND
JEWS) ARE NOT OBLIGED TO PAY THE ISLAMIC ZAKAT THAT IS SPENT BY THE STATE FOR
SOCIAL NECESSITIES AND STATE AFFAIRS AS DEFINED IN THE QURAN (SEE 9:60). BUT
THEY MUST PAY OTHER TAXES TO SHARE IN THE STATE BUDGET. IF THEY REFUSE TO PAY
THIS TAX TO THE STATE AND REBEL AGAINST THE STATE, THEN IT IS THE OBLIGATION OF THE
STATE TO CONFRONT THEM UNTIL THEY PAY IT. THIS IS WHAT CALIPH ABU BAKR DID AFTER
THE DEATH OF THE PROPHET, WHEN SOME PEOPLE REFUSED TO PAY ZAKAT . (HATHOUT,
JIHAD VS. TERRORISM; US MULTIMEDIA VERA INTERNATIONAL, 2002, P.53)
THE VERSE MENTIONS JIZYA, WHICH IS UNFORTUNATELY MISUNDERSTOOD BY SOME PEOPLE. LIKE ANY NATION, THE ISLAMIC
GOVERNMENT REQUIRES ITS CITIZENS TO PAY TAXES IN RETURN FOR ITS SERVICES. SINCE MUSLIMS PAY THE ZAKAT, THE NON-MUSLIM
CITIZENS ARE REQUIRED TO PAY JIZYA (FOR MORE INFORMATION ON JIZYA, PLEASE REFER TO JIZYA IN ISLAM AND JIZYAH AND NON-
MUSLIM MINORITIES ). DR. MONQIZ AS-SAQQAR WRITES CONCERNING THE JIZYA TAX:
THE SUM OF JIZYA WAS NEVER LARGE TO THE EXTENT THAT THE MEN WERE UNABLE TO
PAY. RATHER, IT WAS ALWAYS AVAILABLE AND REASONABLE. DURING THE REIGN OF THE
PROPHET, PEACE AND BLESSINGS BE UPON HIM, JIZYA NEVER EXCEEDED ONE DINAR
ANNUALLY AND IT NEVER EXCEEDED FOUR DINARS UNDER THE UMAYYAD RULE.
( SOURCE)
SHAYKH ABU'L-HASAN AL-MAWARDI (D. 1058CE) EXPLICITLY POINTS OUT THAT THE JIZYA SHOULD BE EXACTED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE MEANS OF THE PEOPLE, AND THE IMAM SHOULD JUDGE THE CONCLUDE THE AMOUNT TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE LEADERS
OF THOSE BEING TAXED:
THE FUQAHA (JURISTS) DIFFER AS TO THE AMOUNT OF THE JIZYA. ABU HANIFA
CONSIDERS THAT THOSE SUBJECT TO THIS TAX ARE OF THREE KINDS: THE RICH FROM WHOM
FORTY-EIGHT DIRHAMS ARE TAKEN; THOSE OF AVERAGE MEANS FROM WHOM TWENTY
FOUR ARE TAKEN, AND THE POOR FROM WHOM TWELVE DIRHAMS ARE TAKEN: HE THUS
STIPULATED THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM AMOUNTS AND PROHIBITS ANY FURTHER
JUDGEMENT ON BEHALF OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR ITS COLLECTION. MALIK, HOWEVER,
DOES NOT FIX ITS MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM AMOUNT AND CONSIDERS THAT THOSE
RESPONSIBLE SHOULD MAKE THEIR OWN JUDGEMENT AS TO THE MINIMUM AND
MAXIMUM. ASH-SHAFI'I CONSIDERS THAT THE MINIMUM IS A DINAR, AND THAT IT IS
NOT PERMITTED TO GO BELOW THIS WHILE HE DOES NOT STIPULATE THE MAXIMUM, THE
LATTER BEING DEPENDANT ON THE IJTIHAD (JUDGEMENT) OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE: THE
IMAM, HOWEVER, SHOULD TRY TO HARMONISE BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT AMOUNTS, OR TO
EXACT AN AMOUNT IN ACCORDANCE WITH PEOPLE'S MEANS. IF HE HAS USED HIS
JUDGEMENT TO CONCLUDE THE CONTRACT OD JIZYAH TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE LEADERS
OF THE PEOPLE BEING TAXED, THEN IT BECOMES BINDING ON ALL OF THEM AND THEIR
DESCENDANTS, GENERATION AFTER GENERATION, AND A LEADER MAY NOT AFTERWARDS
CHANGE THIS AMUNT, BE IT TO DECREASE IT OR INCREASE IT. (AL-MAWARDI, AL-AHKAM
AS-SULTANIYYAH , TA-HA PUBLISHERS LTD. 1996, PP. 209-210)
HENCE, THE LAWS OF ISLAM FORBID MUSLIMS FROM OPRESSING NON-MUSLIMS AND COMMAND THEM TO TREAT OTHERS WITH
JUSTICE AND COMPASSION. IN FACT, THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD PBUH HIMSELF FORBADE MUSLIMS FROM HARMING NON-MUSLIM
CITIZENS OF AN ISLAMIC STATE OR ANY NON-MUSLIM WITH WHOM THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT OF PEACE, AS HE SAID,
" THE ONE WHO WRONGS A COVENANTER OR IMPAIRS HIS RIGHT OR OVERWORKS HIM OR
FORCIBLY TAKES SOMETHING FROM HIM, I WILL BE HIS PROSECUTOR ON THE DAY OF
JUDGMENT. (SUNAN ABI DAWUD 170/3 NO. 3052, SUNAN AN-NASA'I 25/8 NO.
2749, AND VERIFIED BY AL-ALBANI NO. 2626).
IN CONCLUSION, VERSE 9:29 COMMANDS MUSLIMS TO FIGHT AGAINST ONLY THOSE WHO INITIATE AGRESSION AS ILLUSTATED BY ITS
HISTORICAL CONTEXT. MUSLIMS MAY ONLY FIGHT UNDER STRICT CONDITIONS, AND ARE COMMANDED TO LIVE PEACEFULLY WITH
PEACEFUL NON-MUSLIM NEIGHBORS.
SIMILAR NARRATION
BUKHARI: GOD'S APOSTLE SAID, I HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO FIGHT WITH THE PEOPLE TILL
THEY SAY, NONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE WORSHIPPED BUT GOD. (VOLUME 4, BOOK 52,
NUMBER 196)
WITH REGARDS TO THE NARRATION, ONLY PART OF IT HAS BEEN QUOTED, AND THE FULL TEXT READS:
AND THE PROPHET (PEACE BE UPON HIM) SAID, "I HAVE BEEN ORDERED TO FIGHT THE
PEOPLE UNTIL THEY TESTIFY THAT THERE IS NO DEITY WORTHY OF WORSHIP OTHER THAN
ALLAH AND THAT MUHAMMAD IS THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH, ESTABLISH THE PRAYER, AND
PAY ZAKAT, AND IF THEY DO THIS, THEN THEIR BLOOD AND MONEY SHALL BE PROTECTED
FROM ME, EXCEPT BY AN ISLAMIC RIGHT, AND THEIR ACCOUNT WILL BE WITH ALLAH.
THIS NARRATION LISTS SOME OF THE PILLARS OF ISLAM THAT MUSLIMS MUST ADHERE TO. THE FIGHTING BEING ORDAINED HERE REFERS
TO THE ENFORCEMENT OF LAWS AND REGULATIONS WITHIN AN ISLAMIC STATE. JUST AS MODERN GOVERNMENTS ENFORCE THEIR LEGAL
POLICIES, SO TO DOES THE ISLAMIC STATE. THESE LEGAL POLICIES REFER TO MUSLIMS PAYING THEIR ZAKAT (CHARITY TAX) AND
ABIDING BY THE LAWS IN AN ISLAMIC STATE. THOSE WHO UNDERSTOOD THE SAYINGS OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE
UPON HIM) THE BEST, WERE HIS COMPANIONS, AND WE CAN EXAMINE THEIR APPLICATION OF THE SAYINGS OF THE PROPHET
MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM) TO DERIVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. WE FIND THAT AFTER THE DEATH OF THE PROPHET
MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM), MANY HYPOCRITES WHO HAD PRETENDED TO BE MUSLIM BEGAN TO TURN AWAY AND LEAVE
THEIR RELIGIOUS DUTIES, ONE EXAMPLE WAS ZAKAT (THE CHARITY TAX). THEY WANTED TO COMPROMISE THE COMMANDS OF GOD. IT
WAS THEN THAT ABU BAKR, THE FIRST CALIPH AND THE CALIPH OF THAT TIME, CITED THIS NARRATION TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT A
COMPROMISE WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED AND HE WOULD FIGHT THEM UNTIL THEY AGREED TO FOLLOW ISLAM IN FULL. THE FIGHTING THAT
RESULTED WAS KNOWN AS THE RIDDAH WARS. SIMILARLY, WE CAN SEE THAT TODAY'S GOVERNMENTS WOULD NOT TOLERATE IT IF A
CITIZEN REFUSED TO PAY TAX OR ABIDE BY THE LAWS OF THE COUNTRY. IF ONE LIVES IN A STATE OR COUNTRY THEY MUST ABIDE BY THE
REGULATIONS TO ENSURE A SECURE AND HEALTHY SOCIETY. WE SHOULD NOTE THAT THE 'PEOPLE' REFERRED TO IN THIS NARRATION DOES
NOT REFER TO ALL OF HUMANITY. AS SHAYKH AHMED IBN TAYMIYYAH SAYS:
“ IT REFERS TO FIGHTING THOSE WHO ARE WAGING WAR , WHOM ALLAH HAS PERMITTED US
TO FIGHT. IT DOES NOT REFER TO THOSE WHO HAVE A COVENANT WITH US WITH WHOM
ALLAH COMMANDS US TO FULFILL OUR COVENANT.” (MAJMU` AL-FATAWA 19/20)
CLEARLY, THIS NARRATION DOES NOT REFER TO IMPOSING ISLAM UPON NON-MUSLIMS, SINCE THE QUR'AN EXPLICITLY STATES:
2:256 THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION...
ALSO, WE HAVE ALREADY DEALT WITH THE CLAIMS THAT THIS VERSE WAS ABROGATED UNDER OUR DISCUSSION OF VERSE 9:5. ONCE
UNDERSTOOD IN THEIR CORRECT CONTEXT, THESE VERSES AND NARRATIONS BECOME CLEAR.

proo212: @Abdulsalam20



I'm sure we'll argue till eternity that Surah 9 abrogates this chapter since this was the second to the last verse revealed. I will not even quote the hadiths (numerous) justifying compulsion.

I leave you with the same Islamic Law.....If you read through, you will notice that it uses Surah 9:29 and not 2:256....



Perhaps, you should have a discussion with a PhD holder in Islamic Studies to set you straight!!!

SORRY TO ASK ARE YOU A MUSLIM OR CHRISTIAN SIR


IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN AND YOU HAVE A PHD IN ISLAMIC STUDIES THAT DOESNT MEAN YOU UNDERSTAND ISLAM MORE THAN I DO
CONCERNING SURAH9:29

SOME PEOPLE HAVE FALSELY CONCLUDED FROM VERSE 9:29, THAT MUSLIMS ARE COMMANDED TO ATTACK ALL NON-MUSLIMS UNTIL
THEY PAY MONEY. IN FACT, SUCH AN INTERPRETATION IS COMPLETELY FALSE AND CONTRADICTS AUTHENTIC ISLAMIC TEACHINGS.
COMMENTING ON THIS VERSE, SHAYKH JALAL ABUALRUB WRITES:
THESE AYAT (QURANIC VERSES) STRESS THE NECESSITY OF FIGHTING AGAINST THE PEOPLE
OF THE SCRIPTURE, BUT UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS? WE PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED THE FACT
THAT THE ISLAMIC STATE IS NOT PERMITTED TO ATTACK NON-MUSLIMS WHO ARE NOT
HOSTILE TO ISLAM, WHO DO NOT OPPRESS MUSLIMS, OR TRY TO CONVERT MUSLIMS BY
FORCE FROM THEIR RELIGION, OR EXPEL THEM FROM THEIR LANDS, OR WAGE WAR AGAINST
THEM, OR PREPARE FOR ATTACKS AGAINST THEM. IF ANY OF THESE OFFENSES OCCURS,
HOWEVER, MUSLIMS ARE PERMITTED TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AND PROTECT THEIR
RELIGION. MUSLIMS ARE NOT PERMITTED TO ATTACK NON-MUSLIMS WHO SIGNED PEACE
PACTS WITH THEM, OR NON-MUSLIMS WHO LIVE UNDER THE PROTECTION OF THE ISLAMIC
STATE. ( ABUALRUB, HOLY WARS, CRUSADES, JIHAD)
LIKEWISE, THE FOLLOWING FATWA POINTS OUT THAT MUSLIMS CANNOT ATTACK A PEACEFUL NON-MUSLIM COUNTRY:
QUESTION : IS IT AN OBLIGATION OF AN ISLAMIC STATE TO ATTACK THE NEIGHBORING NON-
MUSLIM STATES AND COLLECT ‘JIZYA’ FROM THEM? DO WE SEE THIS IN THE EXAMPLE OF
THE RIGHTLY GUIDED CALIPHS WHO FOUGHT AGAINST THE ROMAN AND PERSIAN EMPIRES
WITHOUT ANY AGGRESSION INITIATING FROM THEM?
ANSWERED BY SHEIKH HÂNÎ AL-JUBAYR, JUDGE AT THE JEDDAH SUPREME COURT
IF THE NON-MUSLIM COUNTRY DID NOT ATTACK THE MUSLIM ONE NOR MOBILIZE ITSELF TO
PREVENT THE PRACTICE AND SPREAD OF ISLAM, NOR TRANSGRESS AGAINST MOSQUES,
NOR WORK TO OPPRESS THE MUSLIM PEOPLE IN THEIR RIGHT TO PROFESS THEIR FAITH AND
DECRY UNBELIEF, THEN IT IS NOT FOR THE MUSLIM COUNTRY TO ATTACK THAT COUNTRY.
JIHÂD OF A MILITARY NATURE WAS ONLY PERMITTED TO HELP MUSLIMS DEFEND THEIR
RELIGION AND REMOVE OPPRESSION FROM THE PEOPLE.
THE PERSIANS AND ROMANS DID IN FACT AGGRESS AGAINST ISLAM AND ATTACK THE
MUSLIMS FIRST.
THE CHOSROE OF PERSIA HAD GONE SO FAR AS TO ORDER HIS COMMANDER IN YEMEN
SPECIFICALLY TO KILL THE PROPHET (PEACE BE UPON HIM). THE ROMANS MOBILIZED
THEIR FORCES TO FIGHT THE PROPHET (PEACE BE UPON HIM), AND THE MUSLIMS
CONFRONTED THEM IN THE BATTLES OF MU’TAH AND TABÛK DURING THE PROPHET'S
LIFETIME

proo212: Quoting from your post again......You said you never misquoted and I insist that you misquoted....

OH I GOT WHAT U SAID THE VERSE U QUOTED IS CONTINUATION OF QURAN 6:151 I WANT TO INCLUDE QURAN CHAPTER 5 BEFORE BUT LATER REMOVE IT.......I DONT KNOW I DIDNT DELETE ALL...........SO IT IS TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR.........THANKS FOR THE OBSERVATION

proo212: @Abdulsalam20 to Holyholla





Actually you misquoted the verse highlighted in the first quote....You quoted the oft "underquoted" verse by muslim apologists. I say underquoted because they never seem to quote the complete verse. They always manage to leave out the "Children of Israel" and the context by not quoting the verse after it

Surah 5:32 Sahih International
Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
Surah 5:33 Sahih International
Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

Surah 5:53 Sahih International
And those who believe will say, "Are these the ones who swore by Allah their strongest oaths that indeed they were with you?" Their deeds have become worthless, and they have become losers.

........SIR I KNOW WHAT I WRITE IF U READ THE POST I PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS................THIS IS AN INDICATION THAT SOMETHING IS BEHIND BEFORE THE PRESENT SENTENCE AND BESIDE I ONLY POSTED THAT SIDE FOR HIM TO KNOW THE REALITY AND I PUT..........CONTINUATION SIGN THIS HAS ALREADY SIGNIFY THAT I DIDNT MISQUOTE
PLEASE I THINK U NEED TO CONSULT YOUR ENGLISH TEXTBOOK

HolyHolla: Please, how does this prove that Jesus killed or supported killing?

"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law
(the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to
abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until
heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not
the
least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from
the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is
accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18) " It is quite clear from
these verses from the New Testament that Jesus peace be
upon him did honor the Old Testament and did say that
every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and
fulfilled.
"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The
teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
So
you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But
do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they
preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3) " We clearly see in these verses
that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old
Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to
not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the
Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.
So according to Jesus peace be upon him, the adulterer in
the New Testament must be put to death






ALSO PLEASE READ THIS
Check Jesus
words to his decides in Luke 22:36 He said to
them, “But now if you have a purse, take it,
and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword,
sell your cloak and buy one. Check your
dictionary to know the meaning of purse,
bag, and Sword. The Bible have already tell us
the meaning of Sword in Ezekiel 21:9 “‘A
sword, a sword, sharpened and polished—
sharpened for the slaughter, 10 polished to
flash like lightning! “‘The sword is appointed
to be polished, 11 to be grasped with the
hand; it is sharpened and polished, made
ready for the hand of the slayer

HolyHolla: If as you claimed, "according to Jesus ..., the adulterer in the New Testament must be put to death", why then did Jesus proclaim a verdict of "neither do I condemn you..." on her?

"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the
Law
(the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to
abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until
heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not
the
least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from
the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is
accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18) " It is quite clear from
these verses from the New Testament that Jesus peace
be
upon him did honor the Old Testament and did say that
every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and
fulfilled.
"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The
teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
So
you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But
do not do what they do, for they do not practice what
they
preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3) " We clearly see in these
verses
that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old
Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers
to
not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the
Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.
So according to Jesus peace be upon him, the adulterer
in
the New Testament must be put to death

NOW ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION
Many Christians use these verses to justify fornication and
pornography.
And the
use of John 8:1-11 does indeed raise a great concern to
Morals and Ethics.
For one thing, it is the biggest mistake for the citizens of
the Christian Whoredom to use John 8:1-11 as an excuse
for the sexual sins they commit against GOD Almighty.
When Jesus peace be upon him refused to stone the
woman, HE ACTUALLY REFUSED TO BE A HYPOCRITE!
Have he ordered the stoning of the woman, he would have
been indeed a hypocrite, because people in charge of
authority back then were not following anything in the
Law properly. He even called them "hypocrites" in several
occasions; see Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew
22:18, Matthew 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29, Matthew 24:51,
Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15 in the Bible. So why punish the
weakest citizen and leave the cause of the corruption?!
That was the Message that Jesus peace be upon him gave
to the people back then. Notice that John 8:6 clearly says
"They were using this question as a trap" , which clearly
means that the situation of John 8:1-11 was no more than a
trap to make Jesus peace be upon him make a mistake.
That's why HE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO OUT SMART HIM
AND FORCE HIM TO GIVE ANY JUDGMENT AGAINST THE
WOMAN. Jesus peace be upon him didn't in anyway
nullify the Laws of GOD Almighty regarding punishment
for adultery.
As I mentioned above, keep in mind that when Jesus gave
the above mentioned laws regarding what he considered
adultery, he gave them during the time when he spoke
highly of the Old Testament's Law:
Jesus orders Christians to follow the Old Testament's laws:
"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law
(the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to
abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until
heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the
least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from
the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is
accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18) " It is quite clear from
these verses from the New Testament that Jesus peace be
upon him did honor the Old Testament and did say that
every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and
fulfilled.
"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The
teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So
you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But
do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they
preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3) " We clearly see in these verses
that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old
Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to
not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the
Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.

@ PASTOR KUN PLS DONT JUST COPY AND PASTE FROM ANYWHERE WITHOUT VERIFYING THEM PLS DOWNLOAD ENGLISH QURAN U WILL SEE THAT ALL WHAT U POSTED ARE FALACY
EVEN U DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND YOUR BIBLE U CLAIM JESUS NEVER KILL PLS WHAT OF THIS?
Check Jesus
words to his decides in Luke 22:36 He said to
them, “But now if you have a purse, take it,
and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword,
sell your cloak and buy one. Check your
dictionary to know the meaning of purse,
bag, and Sword. The Bible have already tell us
the meaning of Sword in Ezekiel 21:9 “‘A
sword, a sword, sharpened and polished—
sharpened for the slaughter, 10 polished to
flash like lightning! “‘The sword is appointed
to be polished, 11 to be grasped with the
hand; it is sharpened and polished, made
ready for the hand of the slayer..
U CLAIM STONNING TO DEATH IS IN THE QURAN PLS WHAT OF THIS VERSES IN THE BIBLE
The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:
Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."
Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with
another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and
the woman must die. "
Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another
man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the
adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. "
Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks
judgment; whoever does so destroys himself. " He
destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.
Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she
profane herself by playing the LovePeddler, she profaneth her
father: she shall be burnt with fire. " Why should only a
daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes
herself? Why can't this law apply to all daughters?
CUTTING OF HAND IN THE BIBLE
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the
wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his
assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his
private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no
pity. " This doesn't make any sense what so ever! Why
should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her
husband? It's not like she was cheating on him or
anything like that!
We clearly see that adultery causes death from the Verses
above. Let us see what Jesus peace be upon him said
about adultery:
The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:
Matthew 19:9 "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife,
except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another
woman commits adultery. " Wouldn't this cause the man
to be put to death?
Mark 10:11 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries
another woman commits adultery against her. " Again,
wouldn't he then be put to death since he would have
committed adultery?
Mark 10:12 "And if she divorces her husband and marries
another man, she commits adultery. " Same question I
ask about the women who are considered have committed
adultery. Wouldn't they be put to death also?
Luke 16:18 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries
another woman commits adultery, and the man who
marries a divorced woman commits adultery. "
My question here is: Would an adulterer in the New
Testament be put to death?
Keep in mind that when Jesus gave the above laws, he gave
them during the time when he spoke highly of the Old
Testament's Law:
Jesus orders Christians to follow the Old Testament's laws:
"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law
(the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to
abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until
heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the
least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from
the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is
accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18) " It is quite clear from
these verses from the New Testament that Jesus peace be
upon him did honor the Old Testament and did say that
every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and
fulfilled.
"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The
teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So
you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But
do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they
preach.' (Matthew 23:1-3) " We clearly see in these verses
that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old
Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to
not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the
Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.
So according to Jesus peace be upon him, the adulterer in
the New Testament must be put to death

HolyHolla: PastorKun, let us give him the privilege of saying he is right that some of these cases actually occurred, although many were merely fabricated or tuned to butress his point. What I will really want Abdulsalam20 to prove to us is that Christian theology justifies such acts just as the quran justifies terrorist jihads.

Jesus, whom the Christians follow His teachings never fought any war nor encouraged His followers on such course. But historical antecedents of Islam is filled with wars of attrition and conquests. Mohammed himself wrote and demonstrated that his followers must perpetually live by war, he himself having been a warrior leader. It does not come as a surprise to me as the Bible predicted long before that the sons of Ishmael would live like terrorists.

Genesis 16 [11 ] "And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
[12 ]"And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren." What we see currently as Islamic terrorism is a fulfillment of this.

Differences Between Muhammad (Islamic teachings) and Jesus (Christian teachings):

Muhammad... #SaidAllah hates those who don't accept Islam. (Qur'an 30:45, 3:32, 22:38) #JesusSaid God loves everyone. (John 3:16) Muhammad...#"I have been commanded to fight against people till they testifythat there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) #Jesus "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew 26:52) Muhammad...# Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) #Jesus "Let he who is without sin castthe firststone." (John 8:7) Muhammad... #Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390) #Jesus Beheaded no one. Muhammad... #Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) #Jesus Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) Muhammad...#"If then anyone transgressesthe prohibition against you, Transgressye likewise against him" (Qur'an 2:194) #Jesus "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39) Muhammad... #Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) #Jesus "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) Muhammad... #Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50) #Jesus...Was celibate. Muhammad... #Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) #Jesus. Did not have sex with children. Muhammad #Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) #Jesus...Never #harmed a woman. Muhammad...#"O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123) #Jesus..."Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5)


Now check this Quranic verses out: Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them( 2:191 ) Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood ( 9:123 ) When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them ( 9:5 ) Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax ( 9:29 ) Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable ( 3:85 ) The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them ( 9:30 ) Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam.( 5:33 ) The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque ( 9:28 ) Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies ( 22:19 ) Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them ( 47:4 ) The unbelievers are silly; urge the Muslims to fightthem ( 8:65 ) Muslims mustnot take the infidels as friends ( 3:28 ) Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an ( 8:12 ) Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels ( 8:60 )

SINCE I HAVE BEEN ARGUING WITH YOU I NEVER MISQUOTE ANY PASSAGE I QUOTE IT ACCORDING TO HOW IT IS QUOTED
WHY MISQUOTING QURAN
2:191
PLS READ IT FROM 190
1:190 Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.1:191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the S
acred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.1:192 But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
THIS VERSE SAYS FIGHT ONLY THOSE WHO FIGHT YOU AND DONT TRANSGRESS LIMIT BECAUSE IN ISLAM DURING WAR THERE ARE LAWS GUIDING IT LIKE DONT KILL CHILDREN WOMEN THEIR ANIMAL AND DONT KILL THOSE WHO DONT ATTACK YOU

QURAN CHAPTER 9 VERSE 123

1:123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.
THIS CLEARLY STATE THAT THOSE WHO GIRD YOU ABOUT

[quote author=HolyHolla][/quote]LIKE I HAVE SAID ISLAM BY NO WAY DID NOT SUPPORT TERRORISM ANY MUSLIM WHO ENGAGE IN IT IS NOT SUPPORTING ISLAM IF U READ A TOPIC THAT HIT FP YESTERDAY ABOUT THE NORTHERNERS THE GUY SAID MOST OF THEM JOIN IT DUE TO POVERTY AND EAGER FOR DEVELOPMENT PLS I CANT QUOTE ALL WHAT HE SAID BUT U CAN STILL FIND IT THERE
AS U CAN SEE I DONT INTENTIONALLY POSTED ALL WHAT I POSTED BUT UR CHRISTIAN FRNDS DEMAND IT FROM ME
THEY SAID ONLY MUSLIM ARE IN BOKOHARAM EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE SOME EIDENCE THAT LINK JONATHAN AND CAN PRESIDENT WITH TERRORISM
IMAGINE THE JET SIEZED IN SOUTH AFRICA THAT WANT TO PURCHASE AMMUNITION FROM AN UN AUTHORISED AGENT IN SOUTH AFRICA THE JET BELONGING TO CAN PRESIDENT PLS WHO THE HELL WANT TO USE THE AMMUNITION IS IT BOKOHARAM OR NIGER DELTA MILITANT IMAGINE IF SUCH ACT WAS LINKED WITH A MUSLIM LEADER
BUT THANK GOD THOSE BOKOHARAM ARE NOW SURRENDERING AFTER THEY DONT HAVE ANY AMMUNITION AGAIN.....PLEASE ISLAM IS WHAT THE QURAN SAYS AND NOT WHAT THE MEDIA SAYS

honeychild: @Abdulsalam20

I am really shocked at the list of Christians who have participated in church bombings. I have never actually heard of this. I would like to verify this information. Any links?

YOU CAN GOOGLE SEARCH IT I PUT THEIR NAME THERE AN SOME WITH DATE U ARE FREE TO VERIFY IT SIR
AND ALSO PLS VERIFY THIS ALSO
A PASTOR IN OSUN STATE WHO WITH HIS FELLOW PASTOR DISGUIST AS BOKOHARAM AND INVADE THEIR CHURCH WITH BANGER JUST TO GIVE ISLAM BAD NAME BUT THANK GOD THEY WERE CAUGHT
PLS TO GET THIS JUST TYPE 'OSUN PASTOR WHO ACT AS BOKOHARAM

Youngsage: Exactly.

WHY LYING THIS IS WHAT IS IN THE VERSE YOUR BROTHER POSTED
1:123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.1:123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.
THIS VERSE MEANS THOSE WHO ATTACK YOU PLS FEAR GOD OO

The horrible truth is that, numerically and statistically
speaking, Christian Civilization is the bloodiest and most
violent of all civilizations in all of history, and is
responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths. Even so,
Muslims will never associate this violence and blood bath
with the teachings of Jesus (peace be on him).
1. Saint Augustine’s cognite
intrare (“lead them in”—
i.e. “force them to
convert”). In fact the
Qur’an says the exact
opposite: There is no
compulsion in religion
( 2:256 ). Augustine’s
frightening idea that all
must be compelled to
“conform” to the “true
Christian faith” has
unleashed centuries of
unparalleled bloodshed.
Indeed, Christians have
suffered more under the
rule of Christian
civilization than under
pre- Christian Roman rule
or any other rule in
history.
Millions were tortured
and slaughtered in the
name of Christianity
during the periods of the
Arian, Donatist and
Albigensian heresies
2. The Crusades
The European armies
were saying, as they
slaughtered both
Christian and Muslim
Arabs: “Kill them all, God
will know his own.”
3. The African slave trade Claimed the lives of 10
million
4. The Colonial Conquests
Estimates for the number
of Native Americans
slaughtered by the
Europeans in North,
Central and South
America run as high as 20
million within three
generations.
5. The 20 th century's
Western Civilization took
warfare to new extremes
A conservative estimate
puts the total number of
brutal deaths in the 20 th
century at more than 250
million. Of these, Muslims
are responsible for less
than 10 million deaths.
Christians, or those
coming from Christian
backgrounds account for
more than 200 million of
these! The greatest death
totals come from World
War I (about 20 million,
at least 90 % of which
were inflicted by
“Christians”) and World
War II ( 90 million, at
least 50% of which were
inflicted by “Christians,”
the majority of the rest
occurring in the Far East).
Given this grim history, it
appears that we
Europeans must all come
to grips with the fact that
Islamic civilization has
actually been
incomparably less brutal
than Christian civilization.
Did the Holocaust of over
6 million Jews occur out of
the background of a
Muslim Civilization?
6. In the 20th century alone
Western and/or Christian
powers have been
responsible for at least
twenty times more deaths
than have Muslim powers.
In this most brutal of
centuries, we created
incomparably more
civilian casualties than
have Muslims in the
whole of Islamic history.
In the 20th century,
Rawanda, 1994
Witness the slaughter of
900,000 Rwandans in 1994
in a population that was
over 90 % Christian
1992-1995 Bosnia
The genocide of over
300,000 Muslims and
systematic rape of over
100,000 Muslim women
by Christian Serbs
Western popular culture
It should also be
mentioned that although
Islam has the concept of
legitimate war in self-
defense (as does
Christianity, and even
Buddhism), nowhere in
Islamic culture (or in
other cultures that
survive today) is there
latent the idealization,
and perhaps idolization,
of violence that exists in
Western Culture.
Westerners think of
themselves as peaceful,
but in fact the gentleness
and sublimity of the New
Testament, and the peace-
loving nature of the
principles of democracy,
are scarcely reflected in
Western popular culture.
Rather, the entire
inclination of popular
culture— Hollywood
movies, Western
television, video games,
popular music and sports
entertainment—is to
glorify and inculcate
violence. Accordingly, the
relative rates of murder
(especially random and
serial murder) are higher
in the Western World
(particularly in the U.S.,
but even in Europe, taken
as a whole) than they are
in the Islamic world in
counties that are not
suffering civil wars, and
this true despite the much
greater wealth of the
West.

malvisguy212: please, can you name the terror group and the name of there leader?

WHO ARE BOKO HARAM?!!
(1) Mr. John Alaku Akpavan, the
man arrested attempt to bomb
Radio House Abuja were christian.
(2) Lydia Joseph (the failed
bomber of St. John Catholic
Cathedral) of Bauchi State who
attempted to bomb a church on
September 12,2011.; was
christian.
(3) Augustine Effiong akwa ibon
indigene carry april 29th 2012
attack in connection with BUK
bomb attack.” Was christian.
(4) Emmanuel King arrested in
attempt to bomb the Redeemed
Christian Church of God (RCCG) in
Yenagoa, the Bayelsa State capital,
while camouflaged in Islamic
attire on December 28, 2011.
(5) Igbo traders that gunned
down a dozen fellow Igbo
businessmen of the same non-
Islamic faith inside the Christ
Apostolic Church, in Adamawa
State on Friday, January 6, 2012.
(6) Samson Mangai who was
arrested in Plateau state
attempting to bomb a church was
christian fellower.
(7) Madam Ruth, who attempted
to bomb the ECWA church,
Kalaring Kaltingo, in Gombe State
on 12 Mar 2012. She Was cristian
fellower.
( Case of the arrest of about
eight Christians in Bauchi in an
attempt to blast the COCIN church
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(9) Case of the Christian bomber
lynched while escaping after
blasting the COCIN Church of Jos
on Sunday, February 26, 2012.
(10) Mr Alex Danladi involved in
COCIN HQ bombing was lynched
by worshipers. He was a church
member disguised in military
uniform.
(11) jonathan Gyanet, police
officer was arrested attempt to
bomb ERCC church in
Akwanga nasarawa state on Apri
20 2014. Was christian.
(12) The pastor's case in Osun state still fresh in our mind# fact!
CAN WE STILL CALL IT MUSLIMS'
AGENDA
THANK GOD THE PLANE CAN PRESIDENT WANT TO USE TO PURCHASE AMMUNITION ROM UN AUTHORISED AGENT IN SOUTH AFRICA WAS DISCOVERED AND NOW SINCE NO MORE AMMUNITION FOR THEM THEY ARE NOW SURRENDERING VOLUNTARILY.....IF U CAN READ MY EARLIAER POST U WILL DISCOVER THAT ISLAM BY NO WAY SUPPORT TERRORISM

1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden
in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that
God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is
forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a
crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless
it
be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall
be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it
shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible
in
Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on
other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in
religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The
Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in
622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse
of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into
adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.
3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says,
“But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline
towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who
hears
and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,”
2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight
against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not
aggressors.”
4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can
declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly
constituted leader of the Muslim community that engages in
the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime
minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national
jurisconsult.
5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden.
According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first
Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you
in
ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the
infirm;
do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any
town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which
groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion
rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces
for money or power. The principle of forbidding the
spreading
of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida
5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman
Jackson writes, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr
(d.
464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who
disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe
to travel, striving to spread corruption in the land by taking
money, killing people or violating what God has made it
unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”
7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must
give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The
Prophet
Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.
8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those
who harm you and is said to have commanded , “Do not be
people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat
you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong
you
will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do
good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do
evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice
toward people even where they have reason to be angry with
them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from
being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]

HAVE U ASK YOUSELF WHAT IS ISLAM
IT IS GOD THAT SEND TORAH(LAW TO MOSES) AND THE INJIL TO JESUS THAT SEND THE EVERLASTING OSPEL TOMUHAMMAD
LETS START IS MUHAMMAD PROPHESISED IN THE BIBLE?
Biblical Prophecies on the Advent of
Muhammad , the Prophet of Islam
The Biblical prophecies on the advent of the Prophet
Muhammad are evidence of the truth of Islam for
people who believe in the Bible.
In Deuteronomy 18, Moses stated that God told him: “I
will raise up for them a prophet like you from among
their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he
will tell them everything I command him. If anyone
does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in
my name, I myself will call him to
account.” (Deuteronomy 18:18-19).1
From these verses we conclude that the prophet in this
prophecy must have the following three characteristics:
1) That he will be like Moses.
2) That he will come from the brothers of the Israelites,
i.e. the Ishmaelites.
3) That God will put His words in to the mouth of this
prophet and that he will declare what God commands
him.
Let us examine these three characteristics in more
depth:
1) A prophet like Moses:
There were hardly any two prophets who were so much
alike as Moses and Muhammad . Both were given a
comprehensive law and code of life. Both encountered
their enemies and were victorious in miraculous ways.
Both were accepted as prophets and statesmen. Both
migrated following conspiracies to assassinate them.
Analogies between Moses and Jesus overlook not only
the above similarities but other crucial ones as well.
These include the natural birth, the family life, and
death of Moses and Muhammad but not of Jesus.
Moreover Jesus was regarded by his followers as the
Son of God and not exclusively as a prophet of God, as
Moses and Muhammad were and as Muslims believe
Jesus was. So, this prophecy refers to the Prophet
Muhammad and not to Jesus, because Muhammad is
more like Moses than Jesus.
Also, one notices from the Gospel of John that the Jews
were waiting for the fulfillment of three distinct
prophecies. The first was the coming of Christ. The
second was the coming of Elijah. The third was the
coming of the Prophet. This is obvious from the three
questions that were posed to John the Baptist: “Now this
was John’s testimony, when the Jews of Jerusalem sent
priests and Levites to ask him who he was. He did not
fail to confess, but confessed freely, “I am not the
Christ.” They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you
Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” He
answered, “No.” (John 1:19-21). If we look in a Bible
with cross-references, we will find in the marginal notes
where the words “the Prophet” occur in John 1:21, that
these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy
18:15 and 18:18.2 We conclude from this that Jesus
Christ is not the prophet mentioned in Deuteronomy
18:18.
2) From the brothers of the Israelites:
Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac (Genesis 21).
Ishmael became the grandfather of the Arab nation, and
Isaac became the grandfather of the Jewish nation. The
prophet spoken of was not to come from among the Jews
themselves, but from among their brothers, i.e. the
Ishmaelites. Muhammad , a descendant of Ishmael, is
indeed this prophet.
Also, Isaiah 42:1-13 speaks of the servant of God, His
“chosen one” and “messenger” who will bring down a
law. “He will not falter or be discouraged till he
establishes justice on earth. In his law the islands will
put their hope.” (Isaiah 42:4). Verse 11, connects that
awaited one with the descendants of Kedar. Who is
Kedar? According to Genesis 25:13, Kedar was the
second son of Ishmael, the ancestor of the Prophet
Muhammad .
3) God will put His words in the mouth of this prophet:
The words of God (the Holy Quran) were truly put into
Muhammad’s mouth. God sent the Angel Gabriel to
teach Muhammad the exact words of God (the Holy
Quran) and asked him to dictate them to the people as
he heard them. The words are therefore not his own.
They did not come from his own thoughts, but were put
into his mouth by the Angel Gabriel. During the life
time of Muhammad , and under his supervision, these
words were then memorized and written by his
companions.
Also, this prophecy in Deuteronomy mentioned that this
prophet will speak the words of God in the name of
God. If we looked to the Holy Quran, we will find that
all its chapters, except Chapter 9, are preceded or begin
with the phrase, “In the Name of God, the Most
Gracious, the Most Merciful.”
Another indication (other than the prophecy in
Deuteronomy) is that Isaiah ties the messenger
connected with Kedar with a new song (a scripture in a
new language) to be sung to the Lord (Isaiah 42:10-11).
This is mentioned more clearly in the prophecy of
Isaiah: “and another tongue, will he speak to this
people” (Isaiah 28:11 KJV). Another related point, is
that the Quran was revealed in sections over a span of
twenty-three years. It is interesting to compare this
with Isaiah 28 which speaks of the same thing, “For it is:
Do and do, do and do, rule on rule, rule on rule; a little
here, a little there.” (Isaiah 28:10).
Note that God has said in the prophecy of Deuteronomy
18, “If anyone does not listen to my words that the
prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to
account.” (Deuteronomy, 18:19). This means that
whoever believes in the Bible must believe in what this
prophet says, and this prophet is the Prophet
Muhammad .

BossTtdiamonds: I pray your ignorance does not lead to your demise...

You quote a verse from KJV saying KJV is saying the wrong thing.. then you used the same KJV to Justify another...
I wonder if you know what Consistency means...

But here's the real fact.. Of all you've posted, you still have not showed me where Muhammad, Quran or Islam is written in the Bible be it KJV, NIV, RSV, NKJV..
All you've done is beat 'bout the bush trying to change the topic..

But my Question still stands.. Where is the word Muhammad written in the bible... I'll give you an hint of where Muhammad was written in the bible..

1John ch 4 vs 3
Let's see if you can find out..

IN THE FIRST PLACE LET ME ADRESS THE VERSE YOU POSTED
PLEASE WHO ARE THE REAL ANTICHRIST LET US ANALYSE IT AND SEE
*JESUS PRAY BY OWING DOWN HIS HEAD CHRISTIAN PRAY BY DANCING SINGING AND DRUMMING(PLS HOW MANY CHRISTIAN BOW DOWN THEIR HEAD)
*JESUS FORBID WOMEN TO TALK IN CHURCH BUT NOW CHRISTIANS ORGANISE CHOIR INFACT LADIES ARE NOW PASTORS
*JESUS LEAVE HIS BEARD NO CHRISTIAN DO THAT ONLY MUSLIMS DO THAT BUT THE ONLY THING CHRISTIAN DO IS TO LAUGH AT THEM
*JESUS FORBID CHARGING OF INTEREST WHEN WE TRY TO ESTABLISH ISLAMIC BANKING WITH INTEREST FREE LOAN CAN OPPOSE IT
*JESUS ORDER FEMALE TO COVER THEIR HAIR IF U GO TO CHURCHES YOU WILL SEE WOMEN WITH THEIR HAIR OPEN SOME WITH HANDKECHIEF AND SOME WITH HAT WHICH ONLY COVER HALF OF THE HAIR WHEN AREGBESOLA RAISE THE ISSUE OF USING HIJAAB IN OSUN STATE SCHOOLS INFACT HE DIDNT SAY IT IS COMPULSOR HE SAID WHO SO WSH......BUT UNFORTUNATELY CAN OPPOSED IT....INFACT IN LAGOS STATE IT IS YET TO BE IMPLEMENTED DUE TO CAN DISAGREEMENT
*JESU WORSHIP THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD BUT YOU MIS INTER PRET HIM NOW YOU ARE WORSHIPING THREE GODS
*IT IS CLEAR IN THE BIBLE THAT WE SHOULD TO GO HAJJ(MEKKAH) AND THAT JERUSALEM IS NO MORE HOLY BT YOU PEOPLE FEEL RELUCTANT I CREATED A THREAD FOR IT NOBODY COULD DEFEND IT WHAT THEY DO IS TO DERAIL
*JESUS SURRENDER TO GOD TOTALLY BUT U DIDNT U ASSOCIATE PARTNER WITH GOD
*JESUS FORBID EATING PORK MOST CHRISTIAN EAT IT BUT ONLY MSLIMS NEVER EAT IT
*JESUS IS A PROPHET OF GOD BUT YOU CALL HIM GOD(I HAVE ALREADY PROVE THIS FOR U
JEUS ISNOT DEAD BUT U SAY HE IS DEAD PLEASE CHECK MY PROFILE FOR DETAIL
THERE ARE STILL MANY MORE BUT LETS STOP HERE PLS ASK YOURSELF DID YOU REALLY FOLLOW JESUS?BECAUSE THERE IS CLEAR PROPHESY OF MUHAMMAD IN YOUR BIBLE
PLEASE ARE THIS NOT PROOF OF ANTICHRIST ACCORDING TO THE VERSE U POSTED SO AS YOU CAN SEE MUSLIMS ARE THE TRUE CHRISTIAN BUT PRESENT CHRISTIANS ARE ANTICHRIST
BASED ON YOUR NEXT QUESTION





MUHAMMAD IS MENTIONED IN SONG OF SOLOMON CHAPTER 5:16
Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa
Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem ."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is
my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im
is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they
have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in
Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet
present.


NOIW YOUR NEXT QUESTION
ALLAH IS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE BIBLE
ALLAH IS THE ARABIC TRANSLATION OF GOD
PLEASE TO CONFIRM ASK YOUR FELLOW CHRISTIAN IN ARABIC SPEAKING COUNTRY LIKE PALESTINE ASK THEM THAT WHEN THEY ARE PRAYING WHAT DO THEY CALL GOD
*INFACT ASK THEM THAT IN THE BIBLE HOW DID THEY WRITE GOD THEY USE ALLAH BECAUSE IT IS THE ARABIC TRANSLATION OF GOD
GOD IS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIME IN THE BIBLE
I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."
[The Bible, Mathew 12:28]

NOW YOUR NEXT QUESTION:IN THE FIRST PLACE LET ME START BY EXPLAINING WHAT IS ISLAM
ISLAM MEANS TOTAL SUBMISSION TO GOD UNCONDITIONALLY
ALL PROPHET SUBMIT TI GOD UNCONDITIONALLY SO THAT IS ISLAM THEY BOW THEIR HEAD TO PRAY THEN PERFORM ABLUTION,THEY FORBID ACCEPTING INTEREST
ALL PROPHET LEAVE THEIR BEARD SO AS MUHAMMAD AND WE MUSLIM ALSO DO THAT ALL PROPHET PREACH THAT THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE GOD THEY NEVER SAID THREE
SO ISLAM(TOTAL SUBIMISSIOIN TO GOD WAS PROPHESISED BY ALL PROPHET)

mustang44: Your claims are all baseless! How could you say all the biblical prophets were all muslims just because they fall with their faces on the ground and prayed plus, they washed their bodies before praying. Let me tell you, muhammad copied all this from the bible. Because all these events took place before muhammad found islam. Its simple, muslims prayed like them not them praying like muslims. “Jerusalem’s
Al Aqsa Mosque is from where Muhammad
rose to Heaven” - This is a big Lie and a
Myth. {How does anyone even know if
Muhammad did go to Heaven, leave alone
from Jerusalem?} This false claim is based
on Muslim guessing of the Quran 17:1
{Actually, the Quran says, “…carried his
servant [Muhammad] by night [on a
donkey] from the Inviolable place of
worship [Mecca] to the far distant place of
worship [Later-Muslims claimed this place
as Al-Masujidi al-Aqtza] the neighbourhood
whereof.” This ‘far distant place’ could
mean anywhere on earth, couldn’t it? It
doesn’t even mention a mosque, does it? If
Muhammad was already dead, then to
whom did Allah reveal this sura? {Who
coined this Sura? You see the lie/fraud in
the Quran? } The fact - the Al Aqsa mosque
and the Dome of the Rock was not built yet
then, when Muhammad was killed. Did he
go 700Km. just in one night and that too
on a donkey, over the desert, did the
donkey have headlamps, was Muhammad’s
body strapped or someone holding the
dead body, in the extreme cold of the
desert, did the donkey stop to quench his
thirst, or did the donkey have a supersonic
700 Km. flight?
Fact-Jerusalem was captured by Khalif
Omar only in 638, six years after
Mohammed's death. Throughout this time
there were only churches in Jerusalem, and
a church stood on the Temple Mount,
called the Church of Saint Mary, built in the
Byzantine architectural style, started by
Emperor Constantine 1 after 330 A.D. and
completed by Emperor Justinian. In or
around 711, or about 80 years after
Muhammad died, Malik's son, Abd El-Wahd
- who ruled from 705-715 - renovated the
Church of St. Mary and converted it into a
mosque. He left the structure as it was, a
typical Byzantine {Eastern Roman Empire}
"basilica" structure with a row of pillars
with corridors on either side of the
rectangular "ship" in the centre {A typical
church building design}. All he did was
some cosmetic renovations, removed
Christian items and replaced the Christian
stained glasses. He then named it Al-Aqsa,
so it would sound like the one mentioned
by the Muslims. This Mosque still looks
more like a church, and there is no Mosque
anywhere in this world, which looks like it.
The Muslims have no shame to claim a
church as their 3rd most holy mosque . Al
Aqsa mosque did not exist when
Muhammad died. Allah obviously meant
the Medina Mosque. But the Muslims
wanted Islam to be recognized with God’s
“people of the Book” and seek some
acceptance from the Jews, which
Muhammad tried, but was rejected all the
time, as Jews consider Muhammad a fake.
Historically, from 2000 B.C., Jerusalem was
Jewish and Jerusalem is a Hebrew name,
originally it was called the ‘city of Judah’
and once the ‘city of God’. In ancient days,
Arabs had no name for this city, but in
modern times named this city ‘al-
Khuds’ {‘the Holy’}

I WILL ANSWER ALL YOUR FALSE BELIEF ONE BY ONE

Ovacoma: You should stop lying, Issa is different from Jesus, moses is not musa, daud is never David etc. Do you remember Jesus says I m d Way, the Truth and Life, no man comes to the father but by me, did issa say that? Moses raised the brasen serpent to signify the crucifixion of Christ that whoever looks on Him will be saved, John 3: 14. Also, David accurately predicted many events about Christ, even His word on the cross, psalm 22: 1.

ISA SAYS THAT SIR WHAT ISA IS TELLING YOU IS THAT NO ONE CAN GET TO GOD WITHOT OLOWING HIS TEACHING NOW DID U FOLLOW HIS TEACHING?.........IF U LOOK DEEPLY SEARCHING FOR THE TRUTH ONLY MUSLIMS FOLOW JESUS
ALL OF YOU WHO CLAIM TO FOLLOW HIM DIDNT FOLLOW HIM

When
Bible said 'Anti Christ shall arise in the last days, and shall
deceived many ."Nigerian Christians expect to some day see a
huge dark man with two horns & a tail, without knowing that
most of these their today pastors are the real anti Christ Bible
talked about, Recruiting them as a potential candidates for Hell
BESIDE I ONT REPLY YOU GUYS AGAIN IF YOU CANT PROVE THE THREAD WRONG......GOING TO HAJJ IN THE BIBLE
FOLLOW THIS LINK FOR MORE
www.nairaland.com/739943/demolishing-falsehood-christianity-bible
PLS DONT QUOTE ME IF U CANT PROVE ME WRONG

1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden
in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that
God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is
forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a
crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it
be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall
be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it
shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in
Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on
other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in
religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The
Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in
622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse
of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into
adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.
3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says,
“But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline
towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who hears
and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,”
2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight
against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not
aggressors.”
4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can
declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly
constituted leader of the Muslim community that engages in
the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime
minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national
jurisconsult.
5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden.
According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first
Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in
ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm;
do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any
town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which
groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion
rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces
for money or power. The principle of forbidding the spreading
of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida
5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman
Jackson writes, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr (d.
464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who
disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe
to travel, striving to spread corruption in the land by taking
money, killing people or violating what God has made it
unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”
7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must
give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The Prophet
Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.
8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those
who harm you and is said to have commanded , “Do not be
people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat
you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong you
will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do
good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do
evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice
toward people even where they have reason to be angry with
them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from
being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]

THE PROBLEM U CHRISTIAN HAVE IS THAT U DONT EVEN SIT DOWN ONE DAY AND THINK WHAT IS RELIGION?IS IT WHAT I PRACTISE BECAUSE MY PARENT ARE PRACTICING IT?
OR AM I PRCTICING IT BECAUSE I CONSIDER IT AS A WAY?
CHRISTIANITY ISNT A RELIGION CHECK MY PROFILE FOR MORE DETAIL AND ALSO FOLLOW THIS LINK
www.nairaland.com/739943/demolishing-falsehood-christianity-bible
U WILL SEE THE TRUTH
CHECK MY SIGNATURE IT JUSTIFY THAT THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION
IF U CAN READ THE QURAN YOU WILL DISCOVER THAT ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE ISLAM DONT ALLOW UNJUST KILLING WHAT ISLAM MEANS IS TOTAL SUMISSION TO GOD UNCONDITIONALLY
BUT U CHRISTIANS U WORSHIP A PROPHET INSTEAD OF GOD
THAT IS WHY I ALWAYS SAY THAT ALL CHRISTIAN DONT FOLLOW THE TEACHING OF JESUS
ONLY MUSLIMS FOLLOW HIM TRUTHFULLY LIKE I SAID CHECK MY PROFILE FOR MORE REALITY
AND ALSO FOLLOW THIS LINK
www.nairaland.com/739943/demolishing-falsehood-christianity-bible

NICE WRITEUP THANKS FOR THE ENLIGHTMENT

Ovacoma: Hmmmmm, lies or is it called taqu...? Jesus says, 'I am the Way, the Truth and Life, no man comes to the Father but by me'. Do you also quote that in the mosque?

SURE I BELIEVE I YISA (PEACE E UPON HIM) HE IS A PROPHET
AND IF I BELIEVE IN MUHAMMAD AND I TESTIFY HIM ALSO AS A PROPHET OF GOD THEN I AM FOLLOWING YISA (PEACE BE UPON BOTH OF THEM)....BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM ARE PROPHET OF GOD PLS READ MY RECENT POST ON THIS THREAD AND THIS IS JUST A COMPLEMENT TO IT THAT JESUS IS A PROPHET
Matthew 13:57 And they took offense at
Him. But Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor
except in his hometown and in his own household."
[color=#990000]
,
Matthew 21:11 And the crowds were saying, "This is the
prophet Jesus, from Nazareth in Galilee."
,
John 4:44 For Jesus Himself testified that a prophet has no
honor in his own country
Quran 4;171.
O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not
exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but
the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary),
was no more than a Messenger of Allah' and His Word, ("Be!"
- and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a
spirit (Ruh) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His
Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for
you. For Allah is (the only) One Ilah (God), Glory be to Him
(Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all
that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is
All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs.
AND ALSO WHEN JESUS SAY I AM THE WAY AND THE LIGHT
.............WHAT JESUS IS TELLING YOU IS THAT WHOEVER THAT DONT FOLLOW HIS TEACHING CAN NOT PRAY TO GOD HE DIDNT MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD WORSHIP HIM
AND EVEN HOW MANY TEACHING O THE PROPHET DID U FOLLOW I MEAN JESUS(PBUH)
INFACT THERE IS CLEAR PROPHESY OF MUHAMMAD IN THE BIBLE TO THE EXTENT THAT HIS NAME WAS MENTIONED IN SONG OF SOLOMON 5:16 IN THE HEREW BIBLE
I QUOTE
Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa
Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem ."
"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is
my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."
In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im
is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they
have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad
(pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in
Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet
present.
When
Bible said 'Anti Christ shall arise in the last days, and shall
deceived many ."Nigerian Christians expect to some day see a
huge dark man with two horns & a tail, without knowing that
most of these their today pastors are the real anti Christ Bible
talked about, Recruiting them as a potential candidates for Hell.
THIS VERSE WILL MAKE U UNDERSTAND THE VERSE U POSTED MORE
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter
into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my
Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day,
Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy
name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many
wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never
knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore
whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I
will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a
rock”

THERE ARE STILL MORE EVIDENCE BUT U MIGHT SAY MY POST IS TOO LONG
Let us look at what Jesus said about himself and about
GOD Almighty:
"I do nothing of myself (From the NIV Bible, John 8:28) "
"My Father (GOD) is greater than I (From the NIV Bible,
John 14:28) "
"Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit (From
the NIV Bible, Luke 23:46) "
"And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one
is good but God alone. (From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18) "
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels
in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (From the NIV
Bible, Matthew 24:36) "
Do these quotes suggest at all that Jesus is in the same
level as the Creator of the Universe?
As we've seen above, in Hebrew, "Son of God" can also be
translated as "Servant of God", which literally means
"Abdallah" in Arabic. Abd = Servant, and allah = Allah, or
the Supreme GOD Almighty that is above all gods. So,
Jesus being called "Son of God" does not mean anything
about him being part of GOD or GOD Almighty Himself. It
simply means "Servant of God" since Jesus existed among
Jews and preached the Gospel to them.
Allah Almighty said: "And they say: "(God) Most Gracious
has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! they are (but)
servants raised to honour. (The Noble Quran, 21:26) "
Jesus himself in his own quotes in the New Testament
refuted trinity as shown above. The Bible in the Old
Testament also refuted trinity by saying that Jesus will
have the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty in him.
How can GOD Almighty fear Himself? And why would the
Creator of the Universe have any fear in Him?
Jesus clearly was the Servant of GOD Almighty as Islam
claims. Jesus was the Jews' Messiah and Leader, and Allah
Almighty's Messenger to them. But he was not part of GOD
Almighty, nor His biological son.

IT SEEMS YOU GUYS NEED SERIOUS ORIENTATION
JESUS IS GOD'S SERVANT
ALL OF MANKIND ARE THE SERVANTS OF GOD. IF A MAN WERE TO
OWN ANOTHER MAN THEN THAT MAN WOULD BE HIS SERVANT.
OBVIOUSLY THIS SERVANT WOULD BE HELD IN A LOWER REGARD
THAN THIS MAN'S OWN CHILDREN (OR HIMSELF). WE DO NOT
USUALLY FIND PEOPLE TELLING THEIR SONS (OR THEMSELVES):
"COME HERE MY SERVANT," OR "GO OVER THERE MY SERVANT." LET
US COMPARE THIS WITH WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY ABOUT JESUS
(PBUH):
1. MATTHEW 12:18: "BEHOLD MY SERVANT, WHOM I HAVE
CHOSEN."
2. ACTS 3:13(RSV): "THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND OF
ISAAC,.... HATH GLORIFIED HIS SERVANT JESUS."
3. ACTS 4:27(RSV): "FOR OF A TRUTH AGAINST THY HOLY
SERVANT JESUS, WHOM THOU HAST ANOINTED...."
THE ACTUAL GREEK WORD USED IS "PIAS " OR "PAIDA"
WHICH MEAN; "SERVANT, CHILD, SON, MANSERVANT." SOME
TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE, SUCH AS THE POPULAR KING JAMES
VERSION, HAVE TRANSLATED THIS WORD AS "SON" WHEN IT IS
ATTRIBUTED TO JESUS (PBUH) AND "SERVANT" FOR MOST
EVERYONE ELSE, WHILE MORE RECENT TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE
SUCH AS THE REVISED STANDARD VERSION (RSV) NOW HONESTLY
TRANSLATE IT AS "SERVANT." AS WE SHALL SEE IN LATER CHAPTERS,
THE RSV WAS COMPILED BY THIRTY TWO BIBLICAL SCHOLARS OF THE
HIGHEST EMINENCE, BACKED BY 50 COOPERATING CHRISTIAN
DENOMINATIONS FROM THE "MOST" ANCIENT BIBLICAL
MANUSCRIPTS AVAILABLE TO THEM TODAY. CHANCES ARE THAT NO
MATTER WHAT YOUR CHURCH OR DENOMINATION YOU ARE ABLE TO
NAME, THAT CHURCH TOOK PART IN THE CORRECTION OF THE KING
JAMES VERSION OF THE BIBLE WHICH RESULTED IN THE RSV.
THE EXACT SAME WORD "PIAS" IS ATTRIBUTED TO
JACOB(ISRAEL) IN LUKE 1:54 AND TRANSLATED AS
"SERVANT":
"HE HATH HELPED HIS SERVANT ISRAEL, IN REMEMBRANCE OF HIS
MERCY;."
IT IS ALSO APPLIED TO KING DAVID IN LUKE 1:69, AND ONCE
AGAIN, IT IS TRANSLATED AS "SERVANT":
"....THE HOUSE OF HIS SERVANT DAVID;" (ALSO SEE ACTS 4:25).
HOWEVER, WHEN IT IS APPLIED TO JESUS (E.G. ACTS 3:13, ACTS
4:27), NOW IT IS TRANSLATED AS "SON ." (NOTICE THAT IT IS NOT
ONLY TRANSLATED AS "SON" BUT AS "SON".) WHY THE DOUBLE
STANDARD? WHY THE DISHONEST TRANSLATION TECHNIQUES?
"AND VERILY, AMONG THEM IS A PARTY WHO TWIST THEIR TONGUES
WITH THE SCRIPTURE THAT YOU MIGHT THINK THAT IT IS FROM THE
SCRIPTURE BUT IT IS NOT FROM THE SCRIPTURE; AND THEY SAY, 'IT IS
FROM ALLAH' BUT IT IS NOT FROM ALLAH; AND THEY SPEAK A LIE
AGAINST ALLAH WHILE [WELL] THEY KNOW IT!"
THE NOBLE QUR'AN, A'AL-UMRAN(3):78
"THE MESSIAH WILL NEVER SCORN TO BE A SERVANT OF ALLAH, NOR
WILL THE FAVORED ANGELS. WHOSOEVER SCORNS HIS SERVICE AND IS
PROUD, ALL SUCH WILL HE ASSEMBLE UNTO HIM; THEN AS FOR THOSE
WHO BELIEVED AND DID GOOD WORKS, UNTO THEM WILL HE PAY
THEIR WAGES IN FULL AND SHALL INCREASE THEM FROM HIS BOUNTY.
[BUT] AS FOR THOSE WHO WERE SCORNFUL AND PROUD, HE SHALL
PUNISH HEM WITH A PAINFUL TORMENT, NOR WILL THEY FIND FOR
THEMSELVES OTHER THAN ALLAH ANY ALLY OR CHAMPION"
THE NOBLE QUR'AN, AL-NISSA(4):172-174

Ovacoma: read 1 John 2:22-23

BossTtdiamonds: You shouldn't have.. He'll tell you that verse is corrupted...



The same way the word Muhammad, Quran, Allah cannot be found in the Bible... Kapeesh...

YOU JUST DISGRACE YOURSELF NOW
I ASK YOU TO PROVIDE A VERSE WHERE BIBLE IS MENTIONED NONE OF U CAN PROVIDE IT
THIS IS WHAT IS IN 1JOHN CHAPTER 2 VERSE 22-23

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also
U SEE NOW
WAIT LET ME ASK YOU DID U FOLLOW JESUS TEACHING?...IF U FOLLOW JESUS TEACHING YOU WILL NOT BE WORSHIPING A PROPHET INSTED U WILL BE WORSHIPING GOD
BESIDE JESUS CALL EVERYBODY SON OF GOD WHICH MEAN SERVANT OF GOD PLS BE ATTTENTIVE
Do you see a difference between these two Bible
versions?
King James Version
Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of
the prophets, and of the covenant
which God made with our fathers,
saying unto Abraham, And in thy
seed shall all the kindreds of the
earth be blessed.
New King James Version
Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the
prophets, and of the covenant
which God made with our fathers,
saying to Abraham, 'And in your
seed all the families of the earth
shall be blessed.
NOW READ THIS ALSO
King James Version
Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God,
having raised up his SON JESUS ,
sent him to bless you, in turning
away every one of you from his
iniquities.
NEW KING JAMES VERSION
Acts 3:26 - To you first, God,
having raised up His SERVANT JESUS , sent Him to bless you, in
turning every one of you away
from his iniquities
IN THE KJV, WE FIND THAT JESUS IS GOD'S SON. IN THE NKJV, WE
FIND THAT HE IS GOD'S SERVANT. THESE ARE CLEARLY NOT THE
SAME! THE GREEK WORD FOUND IN THE TEXT HERE IS "PAIS". IT
CAN BE USED IN GREEK FOR EITHER "SON" OR "SERVANT." SO
WHICH ONE IS CORRECT HERE?
THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE: LOOK AT THE CONTEXT IN WHICH IT IS
USED. IN ENGLISH, WE HAVE MANY WORDS THAT CAN HAVE MORE
THAN ONE MEANING. IF A TRANSLATOR, GOING FROM ENGLISH TO
ANOTHER LANGUAGE, CAME ACROSS THE WORD "BEAR," HE WOULD
HAVE A CHOICE OF MEANINGS. BUT IT WOULDN'T TAKE ROCKET
SCIENCE TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE TO USE.
IF THE PASSAGE DESCRIBED A MAN WITH A HEAVY BURDEN, THE
TRANSLATOR WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THE MAN IS GOING TO
"BEAR," OR "CARRY" THE BURDEN. IF, ON THE OTHER HAND, THE
PASSAGE DESCRIBED A HAIRY BEAST CLIMBING A TREE, THE
TRANSLATOR WOULD UNDERSTAND THE CORRECT MEANING HERE
APPLIES TO A FOREST-DWELLING ANIMAL THAT WILL EAT NEARLY
ANYTHING IT FINDS. IT'S NOT REALLY VERY HARD.
NOW LOOK AT THE BIBLE PASSAGE ABOVE. WHAT IS BEING
DISCUSSED?
"CHILDREN OF THE PROPHETS"
"COVENANT WHICH GOD MADE WITH OUR FATHERS"
"IN THY SEED SHALL ALL THE KINDREDS OF THE EARTH BE
BLESSED."
IT'S CLEAR, ISN'T IT? THE PASSAGE IS TALKING ABOUT "CHILDREN,"
AND "FATHERS" AND "SEED." THE WORD "PAIS" MEANS
"SON." BUT THE NEW KING JAMES TRANSLATORS CHOSE
"SERVANT." WHY? THEY WERE NOT ALONE. THE NEW WORLD
TRANSLATION, CREATED BY THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES WHO DENY
THE DEITY OF JESUS, TRANSLATED THIS WORD "SERVANT" ALSO. SO
DO THE NIV, ASV, NASB AND OTHER MODERN BIBLE
TRANSLATIONS.
COULD IT BE THAT THESE MODERN TRANSLATORS DISAGREE THAT
"PAIS" CAN BE TRANSLATED "SON?" NO, THE NKJV COMMITTEE
TRANSLATES THIS VERY WORD AS "BOY," "CHILD" OR "SON" IN
MATTHEW 2:16; 17:18; 21:15; LUKE 2:43; 9:42; AND JOHN 4:51.
YET THEY REFUSED TO TRANSLATE THE WORD AS "SON" IN THIS
POWERFUL SERMON WHERE PETER PRESENTS JESUS AS MESSIAH
AND SON OF GOD.
ONE HAS TO ASK, WHY WERE THESE TRANSLATORS SO DETERMINED
TO DENY THE DEITY OF JESUS IN THIS PASSAGE? IS THIS A BIBLE
YOU CAN TRUST WITH YOUR ETERNAL DESTINY?
SMH