₦airaland Forum

pundamoti:
What you are talking about exists and is called IHDI.Kenya still ranks higher than Nigeria

51 Mauritius
75 Algeria
82 Tunisia
90 Gabon
97 Egypt
102 South Africa
110 Kenya
112 Namibia
113 Ghana
114 Eswatini
115 Tanzania
116 Angola
117 Zambia
119 Madagascar
120 Uganda
121 Rwanda
122 Cameroon
123 Lesotho
125 Mauritania
126 Nigeria

Please fools close this thread and stop exposing your ignorance.Nigeria`s data is even worse considering the differences in street level exchange of dollar to naira (around 365) and the 325 the imf uses!

http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/inequality-adjusted-human-development-index-ihdi

You are only ignorant fool here. You suggested Nigeria need to grow economy by 10% for 5 years to reach the level of Kenya's development that's why I try to show you how HDI is calculated and among those three dimensions, the one that you suggested Nigeria is ahead of Kenya by having GNI per capita of 5700 while Kenya has 3430. You would have been reasonable if you suggested Life expectancy or Education.

Kazikazi:
Dar es salaam, Tanzania

Upanga to the ocean

pundamoti:
HDI captures everything that you guys have been talking about here for ages! As it stands,Nigeria needs sustained 10% economic growth for at least 5 years to reach Kenya`s level of development! Unfortunately, Kenya is doing 6% growth and Nigeria 1 % economic growth! Third world country went into recession 3 years ago! Crazy! Remove oil from Nigeria's economy and it`s the world`s poorest nation! Oil generates 90% of forex! Already it has the most poor people in the whole world.1% economic growth for 3% population growth means poverty rate in Nigeria is only increasing.Please don`t compare Nigeria with Kenya.Btw Kenya will start producing oil and can foresee her GDP tripling in around 5 years time.Nigeria is a disaster waiting to happen.

You are misleading people, if HDI was measured by GDP Nigeria would be Higher in the rank than Kenya.
The Human Development Index (HDI) is a summary measure of average achievement in key dimensions of human development: a long and healthy life, being knowledgeable and have a decent standard of living. The HDI is the geometric mean of normalized indices for each of the three dimensions.

The health dimension is assessed by life expectancy at birth, the education dimension is measured by mean of years of schooling for adults aged 25 years and more and expected years of schooling for children of school entering age. The standard of living dimension is measured by gross national income per capita. The HDI uses the logarithm of income, to reflect the diminishing importance of income with increasing GNI. The scores for the three HDI dimension indices are then aggregated into a composite index using geometric mean.

The HDI simplifies and captures only part of what human development entails. It does not reflect on inequalities, poverty, human security, empowerment, etc.
http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/human-development-index-hdi

obaaderemi:
That's mtisthequbit's sister.

After seeing this,his younger brother also want to have limelight.

gallivant:
I specifically asked you to stop deflecting your insecurities on Kenya. I honestly care less about your 32% connectivity. You fools need to stop stalking Kenyans everywhere. Read the title of the thread carefully and go post your mountains elsewhere.

gallivant:
The Kenyan shilling is greater in value than the worthless Naira. It's also 22 times valuable than Tanzanian toilette currency.

So why you keep talking about Tanzania?

tylann:
You are deluded

Kenya's connectivity to the grid is more than 70%
So you are comparing Kenya's figures in 2013 to Tanzania's figures in 2017 why are you biased

Have you read that report? Thank God it was posted by your fellow countryman. It cover mid 2017 up to mid 2018.

gallivant:
Instead of cooning like AskiaHarem, you should tell us how many Tanzanians are connected to the grid. Don't deflect your insecurities on Kenya.

At 2017, 32.8% of Tanzanians were connected to the Grid and I dont know how much now. Do you think we are like you Kenyans bragging here about access of electricity and insulting Nigerians of using Generators while you in your country only 13%, the rest are Generators and solar.

Mkenya2019:
I think the issues was - when to count - those customers - when they apply for an account or when they turn the light. That controversy was alive when Kenya Power had like 4M customers...now they are nearly double.

Kenya Power is PUBLICLY LISTED company in Nairobi Stock Exchange and publishes it's AUDITED results.

Here is one for last year

https://www.kplc.co.ke/AR2018/KPLC%20Annual%20Report%2017_12_2018_Wed.pdf
For example - last year --

In the course of the year, we connected 578,808
new customers to the grid, growing the overall
customer base by 9.4 percent to 6,761,090 million.
This was largely achieved through the government
funded Last Mile Connectivity Project. As a result,
the national electricity access from both grid and
off-grid solution as at end of June 2018 had risen
to 73 percent compared to 29 percent five years
ago. The connectivity drive is premised on our
strategic goal to secure the power distribution
and retail market and support the country’s goal
of providing electricity to all Kenyans which is
an important ingredient for socio-economic
transformation and development.

So only 6,761,090 of Kenyan have been connected to the grid that bring ( 6761090/52000000)= 13% of Kenyan that have been connected. The rest 60% are using Generators and Solar.

Mkenya2019:
I think the issues was - when to count - those customers - when they apply for an account or when they turn the light. That controversy was alive when Kenya Power had like 4M customers...now they are nearly double.

Kenya Power is PUBLICLY LISTED company in Nairobi Stock Exchange and publishes it's AUDITED results.

Here is one for last year

https://www.kplc.co.ke/AR2018/KPLC%20Annual%20Report%2017_12_2018_Wed.pdf
For example - last year --

In the course of the year, we connected 578,808
new customers to the grid, growing the overall
customer base by 9.4 percent to 6,761,090 million.
This was largely achieved through the government
funded Last Mile Connectivity Project. As a result,
the national electricity access from both grid and
off-grid solution as at end of June 2018 had risen
to 73 percent compared to 29 percent five years
ago. The connectivity drive is premised on our
strategic goal to secure the power distribution
and retail market and support the country’s goal
of providing electricity to all Kenyans which is
an important ingredient for socio-economic
transformation and development.

So 6761090

TayserMahri:
Kigali Basketball Arena.

set to host an NBA Africa Final

They should try first to accept there is large problem of poverty in Rwanda before fooling people.

kikuyu1:
Replying to you is a waste of time but literate people will understand. That same day me and a cuz in finance laughed out loud when this report came out. Amana's facts were as fake as Kale's outtakes and they're basically looking for clients!

What about IMF?

People here have been saying Kenyan GDP is a cooked one, I have found that even their currency is a overcooked one.
According to IMF is 18% but other analysts reach up to 30%

mtisTheQubit:
Meanwhile in Tanzania. True story .. just wondering what the heck is this?

Meanwhile in Kenya.

Kenyan president,Uhuru Kenyatta in Jameyka

Dar es salaam, the abode of peace

TZ National stadium. Simba day

Kazikazi:
I think he has also invested in assembly plant in Kenya recently

I didn't know that.

Hans Paul Automechs. Most Safari cars in East Africa are built by this company in TZ.

In Tanzania we have companies building ships, boats and ferries and one of it is Songoro Marine build mostly boats and ferries.

AskiaHarem:
Nigerian Merchant Marine Strength: 583

Tanzanian Merchant Marine Strength: 279

Kenyan Merchant Marine Strength: 20

Ghanaian Merchant Marine Strength: 211 (ok I guess)

South African Merchant Marine Strength: 82

The only thing that hind us is our governments have been so merciful in taxing firms, some goods and products, services etc if that happen we will have much more revenues to fund deferent projects.

Stevoh18:
When Tanzania practically use everything that has a "made in Kenya" tag from medicines, plastics, books everything in your shops even matchboxes are made in Kenya....

Check the balance of trade...despite the stupidity exhibited by Magufuli, Kenya still have a edge
Exports to Tanzania 2018 $298m
Imports from Tanzania 2018 $172m

So do you want Tanzania to ban your goods? That will be against East African free trade or single custom. The problem between Tanzania and Kenya start when Tz Gov ban milks from Kenya especially Brookside. They were given a Milk factory in Arusha as new investors and they turn it to be a warehouse for their milk from kenya while deceiving they produce from there. So the government ban them. After that your government ban Tanzania's LPG. There are Tanzanian,kenyan, India, China, Egyptian, Italian etc medicines in Tanzania market so what's wrong with that. Plastics, Steel, Iron sheet, matchbox and books are all produced in Tanzania but that doesn't make other countries to export their things here.

tylann:
Acadavah

We know you like dangote cement

Because he has monopolized cement industry in Tanzania

How always you came with empty blatant claims. In Tanzania the largest cement producers are:
1: Tanzania Portlant cement Ltd( own by Heidelberg)
2: Tanga cement PLC( own by Holcim)
3: Dangote cement:
4: Mbeya cement( own by Lafarge)

There are 13 cement factories in Tanzania

Just30:
Ghanaians weren't buying Dangote cement

Dangote only managed to gained a 1- 2% market share.

Cement manufacturers were pissed because he was flooding the market, creating an over capacity
which led to a price collapse and everyone was making losses.


if you understand economics, you will know what im talking about.

Basically, Dangote was practising dumping in order to collapse manufacturers in Ghana.
He was so desperate such that He was even selling cement at a lower cost in Ghana than he was selling in Nigeria


that is desperation

That was advantageous for the normal people and the government works for the welfare of those people rather few rich manufacturers.

PetroDollax:
Nonsense post. Dangote is exporting sub standard cement to Ghana Is Dangote still exporting cement to Ghana?

It seem Dangote has dominate your market such that he made your cement manufacturers to lament. Ghanaians were talking about Nigeria's resistance in signing of Africa free trade pact,h ere again they are talking of banning Dangote cement in Ghana.
Don't you think in that free trade pact Dangote will dominate more? If Dangote cement was substandard, users would not buy them. Why would Ghanaians buy Dangote cement up to the state your local manufacturers want to ban him.

Just30:
Show prove that Ghana import cement

All import licenses issued expired in 2016 without renewal

You can easily find that in Google. Look this is may 10 2019 when Your Cement manufacturers lament to your government.
https://www.modernghana.com/news/931458/sanction-dangote-cement-others-or-elsecement-manufactur.html

tylann:
No we will not be hit hard
Our financial and service sector are still dynamic
Our retail sector is also pretty dope
Our tourism sector was hit hard by the terrorist attacks some few years back , our economy didn't collapse , we never went into recession our economy continued growing

Be the best with what you have
Kenya is not rich in mineral resources like Tanzania
Kenya doesn't have huge arable land like Tanzania
89% of Kenya's landmass is arid
So we maximized the small that we had and that is tea kenya is the largest tea exporter in the world
We are among the largest exporters of flowers in the world
And very soon we will be among the largest exporters of avocados

Good for you

tylann:
Yeah it is tea , flowers , avocado , milk etc and that is agriculture
What about finance and banking sector
Retail sector
Manufacturing

You are just a jealous tanzanian

I am not jealous but that is the truth. If price of Tea and flower went down, your economy will be hit hard. Much of your foreign currency come from Tea, flowers and Tourism.

chrisagyei:
Actually, Ghana exports far more than Kenya although you're right about majority of it being minerals buh Kenya is not much different with majority of Kenyans exports being primary natural products buh Ghana's economy is not a small economy because it's currently among top ten in Africa and industries make up 24% of Ghana 's economy.The GDP PPP of Ghana is 190 billion dollars.That is not a small economy.Ghana is among the top ten exports country in Africa and is number 7

Ghana is doing so great. I hope that reflects also in Ghana's citizens quality of life. I think African countries should do more in developing manufacturing industry. Kenyans has been bragging here of diversified economy but in reality is just Tea and flowers.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
www.slaughtered Nigerians.com
Any Nigerian witches killed abroad is going to be posted on this website and also information of how he was slaughtered. Any good Kenyan or Ghanaian web designer out there. People will be able to post their comment on the webpage

You are crazy guy.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
www.slaughtered Nigerians.com
Any Nigerian witches killed abroad is going to be posted on this website and also information of how he was slaughtered. Any good Kenyan or Ghanaian web designer out there. People will be able to post their comment on the webpage

So do you want to encourage people to kill Nigerians in abroad?

TayserMahri:
Jealousy must be killing you.

Safaricom pumps Sh601bn into economy in one year

It clearly say tough economy and redundancy