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afelouz:
Hi gurus. Please, The police report that is needed for the PR application, can I make it down few weeks before traveling to brazil?

Which notary public is recognized that one can use?

After getting the police report and notarized it, do I need to take it to the embassy in lagos for anything? I hope not.

For someone who had a baby already ( below 7 years). Can the said baby get his/her brazilian passport before leaving brazil alongside the new born? Or they only issue a document that shows that the sibling is a citizen?

Thanks alot �

The police report must not have been more than 90 days old at the time of PR application in Brazil. It must also be legalized. To do so, take the police report to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Nigeria for legalisation. After which you take it to the Brazilian consulate in Nigeria for final legalisation. After the documents arrive in Brazil, you must translate it with a translator authorised by the Brazilian authorities in Brazil. Only after these steps it will be accepted my Police Federal for the application.

If you are going to be in Brazil for more than 90 days before your baby is born, then give your friend or family member a copy of your passport in Nigeria to apply for the police report and do all the above on your behalf and then send them to you in Brazil.

Finally, because the Brazilian consulate has to legalise the document, if you go for legalisation before traveling to Brazil, the consulate will suspect your motives and may cancel your visa. This is because legalisation of documents are only done when you want to apply for a permit in Brazil.

So in short, be smart. I always say, get to Brazil first and let your child be born. The rest will take care of itself as long as you have a Brazilian child.

Peace

OneNaija:
@adjo, I don’t see any reason for zizi81 to lied here. You guys should calm down. It might be misunderstanding. Welcome Zizi81. Please guys make your point without fighting please. Cheers.

OneNaija Thanks. The funny thing is that she called me a liar when i actually got my passport less than a month ago and i lived in Brazil for just a year. I posted official sources of the immigration office that process immigration matters and she did not say anything about it.

It is just not right for Zizi to make claims she has no idea about. I promise not to comment on this again. Everyone here is free to say what they think and beleive. It’s up to each individual to do their own research.

Peace

Zizi81:
Am just laughing at you..I LIVE HERE HAD MY CHILDREN HERE,I WORK WITH THE GOVERNMENT,I HAVE RECORDS HERE...IF YOU DONT KNOW THE PROCESS ASK,BEFORE CITIZENSHIP YOU NEED TO WRITE AN EXAM IN PORTUGESES ...YOU MUST BE ABLE TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE PERFECTLY.AM IN SAO PAULO,BEEN HERE FOR OVER TEN YEARS

You said 15 years earlier and now its 10 years lol. You are not in Brazil. Even if you are, you don’t know the immigration system

Zizi81:
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MADAMU STOP THE LIE,I WORK WITH THE IMIGRATION HERE,YOU CANNOT GET A BRASILAIN CITIZEN IN ONE YEAR STUPID

From some of the things you said, i can tell you that you are not in Brazil as you claim lol. You are in another country using their immigration laws to try and confused us

Zizi81:
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MADAMU STOP THE LIE,I WORK WITH THE IMIGRATION HERE,YOU CANNOT GET A BRASILAIN CITIZEN IN ONE YEAR STUPID

Well i guess you did not see or decided to ignore the official link in my message. Or maybe you cannot read the Portuguese in the link lol

Zizi81:
@Anjo10
I am so sorry to tell you that you lied! I live in Brazil,am a Brazilian I had my children in Brazil,you cannot have a child in Brazil and stay here for just one year and get the citizenship NOOOO,YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN BRAZIL FOR 4 TO 5 YEARS HAVE BEEN LEAVING HERE FOR 15YEARS AND I WORK WITH THE LAW IN THIS COUNTRY...DID YOU WRITE A CITIZEN EXAM ....IF YOU HAVE A BRASILIA CHILD AUTOMATICALLY YOU GET A PREMANTE RESIDENT...BUT THE WHOLE FAMILY HAS TO LIVE IN BRAZIL FOR 4 TO FIVE YEARS.....LET PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM AND FOR HEAVEN SAKE BRAZIL IS NOT CHEAP......

And also, there is no citizenship exams lol. Are you sure you are in Brazil or talking about Brazil? There is a Portuguese language test you can present as proof of your ability to speak Portuguese but it’s not compulsory anymore since 2018. If you attend a Portuguese language course, you can show that has proof.

Zizi81:
@Anjo10
I am so sorry to tell you that you lied! I live in Brazil,am a Brazilian I had my children in Brazil,you cannot have a child in Brazil and stay here for just one year and get the citizenship NOOOO,YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN BRAZIL FOR 4 TO 5 YEARS HAVE BEEN LEAVING HERE FOR 15YEARS AND I WORK WITH THE LAW IN THIS COUNTRY...DID YOU WRITE A CITIZEN EXAM ....IF YOU HAVE A BRASILIA CHILD AUTOMATICALLY YOU GET A PREMANTE RESIDENT...BUT THE WHOLE FAMILY HAS TO LIVE IN BRAZIL FOR 4 TO FIVE YEARS.....LET PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM AND FOR HEAVEN SAKE BRAZIL IS NOT CHEAP......

Educate yourself before you display your ignorance in public lol

Zizi81:
@Anjo10
I am so sorry to tell you that you lied! I live in Brazil,am a Brazilian I had my children in Brazil,you cannot have a child in Brazil and stay here for just one year and get the citizenship NOOOO,YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN BRAZIL FOR 4 TO 5 YEARS HAVE BEEN LEAVING HERE FOR 15YEARS AND I WORK WITH THE LAW IN THIS COUNTRY...DID YOU WRITE A CITIZEN EXAM ....IF YOU HAVE A BRASILIA CHILD AUTOMATICALLY YOU GET A PREMANTE RESIDENT...BUT THE WHOLE FAMILY HAS TO LIVE IN BRAZIL FOR 4 TO FIVE YEARS.....LET PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM AND FOR HEAVEN SAKE BRAZIL IS NOT CHEAP......

FROM POLICIA FEDERAL (The authority that processes Naturalisation applications) Translated using good translator. I rest my case. No need to argue with you. Find from official source below with link: Check the bolded text

1) General Information
For those who have permanence, lives in Brazil for four years, knows how to read and write Portuguese and has no conviction for over a year.



In the procedure for granting ordinary naturalization, the following shall be proven:
I - civil capacity, according to Brazilian law;
II - residence in the national territory for a minimum period of four years;
III - ability to communicate in Portuguese, considering the conditions of the naturalizing; and
IV - no criminal conviction or evidence of rehabilitation, pursuant to current legislation. Possession or ownership of property in the country will not be sufficient proof of the requirement set forth in item II, in which case the effective residence in the country must be proven . 233 will be reduced to one year if the naturalizer meets one of the following requirements:




I - have a native or naturalized Brazilian child, except for provisional naturalization; or
II - have a Brazilian spouse or partner and are not legally or in fact separated from him at the time of

http://www.pf.gov.br/servicos-pf/imigracao/naturalizacao/naturalizacao-ordinaria-1/NaturalizacaoOrdinaria

Shallypop:
Thanks for the response. I know about it cos I gave birth to my baby in Brazil in and I have d PR as well. I'm just curious to know how u fast tracked yours cos I know people on PR for years still awaiting the passport. Maybe I can use your connection oo. Na to pack my bag go Brazil, sacrifice one year and get the pp.

Also being on PR doesn’t automatically qualify you for citizenship. If you got your PR through giving birth or marriage it 1 year to citizenship. If your got your PR through any other means, you have 4 to 15 years depending on your circumstances. For all cases however, you much learn and speak basic Portuguese, not have a criminal background etc... Maybe they have not yet fulfilled those other requirements or they obtained their PR through other means rather that a Brazilian baby or marriage.

Shallypop:
Thanks for the response. I know about it cos I gave birth to my baby in Brazil in and I have d PR as well. I'm just curious to know how u fast tracked yours cos I know people on PR for years still awaiting the passport. Maybe I can use your connection oo. Na to pack my bag go Brazil, sacrifice one year and get the pp.

I was told before 2017 citizenship applications where processed manually and it took about a year or 2 to get citizenship after application. I’m sure during your time, your PR card took about a year to arrive. These days, everything at PF has been computerized . Instead of 1 year to receive your PR card, it now takes about a month or 2 and citizenship application take about the same amount of time.

You will have to live in Brazil to understand why the citizenship law is soo generous on families matters. Family is well respected and appreciated here. Family values are sacred. In shops, there are special VIP lanes for pregnant women and those with children to pay without joining the long queues. Same at immigration at the airport. In buses and trains, there are special seats reserved for families.

On Sundays, major streets are closed and amusement parks are established so families can walk the streets, enjoy and picnic.

That is why the constitution guarantees that the parents of a Brazilian child cannot be expelled from the country no matter your immigration status.

Apart from family, Brazilian citizenship is one of the most difficult citizenship to get on the planet. Their citizenship law is super though because they value their passport. For them to maintain the good rating of their passport as well as the visa free countries, international agreements requires them to make obtaining their citizenship and passport difficult.

Thank God for children. They can be a blessing especially in a country with though citizenship laws like Brazil.

Cheers

juliusocean:
Ma'am I don't think we'll be coming back to Africa full steam ahead no side mirrors lol

Lol. Once your baby is born. There is nothing like overstay. Your and your wife become permanent residents and any other children you already have who are below 10 years become automatic Brazilians. Those children you already have who are above 10 year get permanent residency like you and all of you become Brazilians after living there for 1 year. (Of course you have to learn Portuguese to be citizen).

That is why is said if your intention is to give birth in Brazil then there is nothing like overstaying for you

Shallypop:
You got your Brazilian pp in less than 2 years? Hmmm. Just curious to know how you did that. I know hundreds of educated people dat has lived there for over 5yrs and yet to get one. Some even passed exams but still awaiting their passports.

Anyone who gives birth in Brazil receives permanent residency immediately the child is born and both parents and siblings of the new born baby become Brazilians after living in Brazil for just 1 year. This and marrying a Brazilian are the only 2 easiest ways of becoming a Brazilian. Everyone else has to wait 4 to 15 years to become Brazilian depending on your circumstances. Cheers

Honestly, you will not need to overstay if your purpose is to go and give birth in Brazil.

juliusocean:
Do you mean I and wife will pay the fine of Rs 10000 together or separately (per head)

Per head and you should thankful for that because if it were to be USA or Canada, you will be banned for 10 years. You will have an American child but you will not see US with your 2 eyes again lol

juliusocean:
Ma'am my wife is not even showing yet how many times can we extend b4 we get hit with the fine..
If we extend for 3 months that's six will we keep extending?

Firstly, it is not safe for your wife to travel in her first trimester. So the first 3 months if pregnancy is out. The remaining 6 months of your visa should be fine. If not, you can overstay as long as you want (a century) and the maximum fine that you can be charged is Rs 10,000 simple. When your baby is born, you pay the fine and your overstay record is wiped clean because you are now the parent of a Brazilian. No other country in the world would do that. That is why i love Brazil.

juliusocean:
Since they will issue a 3months visa we will definitely overstay does that mean I'll be paying the Rs10000 fine for my self wifey and child? NOTE:Rs10000 = ₦878,421
So ₦878,421 × 3 =₦2,635.263

The fine is Rs 100 per day. And the maximum fine is Rs 10,000. The maximum fine means that you cannot be fine more than Rs 10,000 no matter the number of days you overstay. So i don’t understand your calculations. Thanks

juliusocean:
Since they will issue a 3months visa we will definitely overstay does that mean I'll be paying the Rs10000 fine for my self wifey and child? NOTE:Rs10000 = ₦878,421
So ₦878,421 × 3 =₦2,635.263

Your can extend your visa for another 3 months whiles in Brazil. All you have to do is to go to Policia Federal and apply for it.

Thanks

Beautyaddy:
lol!...Why is that?

You know with our green passport, traveling and visa is a privilege. Aside other things, we also try to get a lot of visas and travel to make our green passport “fit” for the next visa application.

With my Brazilian passport, i don’t need visas to most of these countries. I can travel anytime and mostly anywhere. I don’t see the urgency in traveling anymore. I don’t see the need to get stamps in my passport to make it look good. It is already good by itself.

Finally, i don’t actually know what I’m going to see in the UK, France or South Korea for example that i cannot see here. If i will travel, it most definitely not going to be for tourism but rather for work or other things.

Superted01:
Please anyone with this info?

Kindly read from page 1. Your question has been answered several times. I think a 31 page thread is extremely small compared to other similar thread that are 600+ pages. Cheers

timmb:
Pls Adjo10 can i chat with your pm. I need to ask some question privately. Thank you.

Hello timmb. Thanks for wanting to connect privately. Unfortunately, i do not pm anyone. I have had too many emails and could not answer many. Kindly post your questions here and frame it in a general manner so that most readers can learn from it. We also have very knowledgeable and experienced people here like MrBrownJay1 who can answer your questions. I also learn from your questions and answers given on this platform.

I kindly hope you understand please. Thanks

Beautyaddy:
Oh, very sad to know...but I thought you already had a Brazilian passport.

Yes my family and i have Brazilian passports. I am talking about when i used to travel on my green passport. I have not even used my Brazilian passport yet. Now that i have it, i don’t even feel like traveling anymore lol. Life...

marina101:
My wife and I applied for a tourist visa since on the 9th of September, no word yet. It has been showing "Under Review" anytime I track it online. Yesterday makes it exactly 21 working days.

Other countries’ citizens who applies for a Brazilian tourist visa have their visas processed directly at the Brazilian consulate where they filed their application and are given a decision within a maximum of 10 days.

Sadly, Nigeria and Senegal are part of the only 5 countries in the world that visa application is not directly approved by the Brazilian consulate. The consulate in the case of Nigerian citizens forwards the application to the Ministry of external relations in Brasilia who have the power to approve or deny the visa. The Ministry of External relations in Brazil can be extremely slow in processing any application as they are in charge of all asylum and other applications. This results in slow delivery of tourist visas to Nigerians and unfortunately the Consulate has no power than to wait for response from the Ministry.

Unfortunately, Nigeria has been on the blacklist for many countries around the world. I have traveled the world extensively on my green passport and i have always been treated differently wether being at embassies, check in desk at airport, immigration at the point of entry or by citizens of the countries i have visited or stayed in. It is really sad. I always have to prove myself.

We should try all our best so our children do not inherit such a struggle. Our children will always and should be proud Nigerians but let’s face the facts, it is always better to give them options.

Peace

afelouz:
Quick update.

So, the interview story is true. I got an invitation mail two weeks after applying and I have done the interview.
They basically want to see if you are not pregnant, then ask for your mission in brazil, etc.
They don't want to see a baby bump, Infact, it's auto denial.
If you are a lady applying, you are getting invited automatically. Nigerians have really Bleep*d things up.
let me just stop here.
@Adjo10 thanks for always responding to comments here. God bless.

Thanks for the update afelouz.

juliusocean:
Airbnb only offer per night stay same as bookings.Com not long term rentals

Hello juliusocea. Please check well. When you put the number of days and it exceeds 30 days, the price changes to monthly and long term rental. Thanks

juliusocean:
@Adjo10 please pardon me did you rent an apartment from your base or you did over there if yes How i think this part has not been clarified I read the thread twice over now its the missing piece of the puzzle

Check Airbnb for Accomodation. Choose safe areas which are usually a bit expensive. Protect your baby from mosquitoes by choosing an air conditioned apartment. Once your baby is born and you and your family have your permanent residency, then live like a local. Thanks

juliusocean:
Thanks alot when you visited what city did you stay I am considering salvador and florianopolis the least house I saw was 75k per month when I converted maybe I need to be on ground to get something cheaper?

Hello juliusocea. Nice. I can see you are doing a lot if research which is a very good step. I am assuming that you or your partner are going with the purpose of giving birth. Based on that i would definitely recommend Florianopolis over Salvador as it is much much safer. Your unborn baby carries a lot of responsibilities so safety should be first before any other thing.

75k is very cheap and i am assuming that is in Salvador. As a tourist in Brazil “cheap “ can end up being super expensive as crime is high.

To be realistic, you are not going to get it any cheaper than that when you are on the ground. You see... Brazil’s economy is highly dependent on tourism. Brazilians can easily detect tourists especially that you do not speak Portuguese. Prepare to pay high and live as a tourist at least until your Brazilian baby is born. By then, you have adjusted to the system.

I know right now you may think things will be cheaper for you once you arrive in Brazil but I’m telling you the truth, come prepared to live like a tourist for a while and be prepared to spend for your baby’s safety.

To give you a quick answer, Brazil does not accept financial sponsorship for a tourist visa and the account should be the last 6 months.

Cheers

juliusocean:
Link not opening ma'am

http://lagos.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/

Kindly try this one. Then navigate to the VISA section on the left.

Cheers

juliusocean:
@Adjo10 Good day I was wondering with the tourist visa will I be able to open an account register a sim and all?
Secondly the bank statements how long do they ask for 3 or 6 months asking because am abt to make a huge transfer or I can use someone else as a sponsor?

Hello juliusocean. With the tourist visa you can get a CPF number (Tax number) in Brazil. This tax number can help you register a sim card and go to the hospital but that is all you can do with a tourist visa + CPF. You cannot open a bank account or attend public schools and many more unless you have a resident permit (which you get after your child is born)

I will advise you to take your time to read the consulates visa requirements as all your questions about visa related issues have been answered there. Here is the link:
http://lagos.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/visitor_(for_tourism,_business_and_other_situations).xml

Cheers

Acme45:
pls for now like how much should I 've in my account to apply for tourist visa for me and my wife?

Hi Acme45. Unfortunately, the Brazilian consulate does not have a specific amount. Use the Schengen daily rate as a guide which suggests you to maintain a balance of around € 4000+ for a period of 3 months+. The more money the better and the longer the money stays in your account the better. Avoid bulk transfers within the time period require for your statement of account as it is an indication that the money may not belong to you.

Remember that meeting the financial requirements does not guarantee you will get the visa. Other factors are taken into consideration.

Finally, if you genuinely want to give birth in a private hospital, rent accommodation and other expenses and you have saved money for that, then the money in your bank account will definitely be enough.

Thanks

PastorMikenwab:
Adjo10, thanks for helping people out here, thanks for your invaluable time. Please, I want to know about Curitiba and Florinapolis, which is better compare to Sao Paulo? For a Nigerian who desires safety, low cost and integration.

Hello PastorM. Thanks. I must first point out that i have never lived in both cities. I have however visited both. Based on what i was told and saw in only few days there is the following:

Both Floripa and Curitiba have a high standard of living. Floripa is however a lit bit safer than Curitiba. For lower cost of living, Curitiba is lower simply because Floripa is a touristic city. Anywhere with lot of tourists comes with higher rent etc. For integration, Curitiba will be better because it is far more populated than Floripa and you are more likely to come in contact with more locals than the touristic Floripa.

I’m not sure but i have heard Floripa has better job opportunities than Curitiba. São Paulo however tops all cities in Brazil in terms of job opportunities.

An important consideration however is that both Floripa and Curitiba have only about 2% of their population being blacks. I hardly saw any black in those two cities. I actually felt i was in Europe. The People in those 2 cities are very nice but a bit reserved than São Paulo.

Curitiba also has one of the best transport system in the world. According to US magazine Reader's Digest, Curitiba is the best Brazilian Big City in which to live.

In short all 3 cities have their own advantages and disadvantages.

Cheers