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nitrogen:
My bad, he was in serie a team of the year 3 consecutive times. 13/14, 14/15, 15/16.

He was also in UEFA team of the year in 2015, and made PFA team of the year in 18/19......I guess player of the month is bigger than player of the year. Capitalcee won’t kill me.

Abeg, help me tell those guys to stop this attack on Pogba now. Not fair at all.

Capitalcee is my guy but obviously Pogba don do am bad thing in the past so nothing wey you fit talk fit convince am.

Maybe Pogba cut him ticket the way Mourinho cut some people ticket yesterday.

Having said all that, i have to ask you these questions. In your opinion do you think Pogba during his time at United has justified his price tag and the hype around him.
Do you think he has performed up to or even beyond expectation?

Or do you think he has not reached the heights we all hoped, and therefore it is understandable that some fans are critical of him?

patrickmuf:
This is the difference between you and most folks here, you are not bothered about people's opinions when the truth is clear for all to see...

Me wey i like money pass anything. If me beefing people's opinion when i know they are right will add plenty dollars to my account i for dey do am.

Wetin i gain to dey argue against something i believe is right.

nitrogen:
Nawa o, you sef don join them. Pogba was Serie A player of the year and Juve player of the year before joining Utd o. And this is for those saying that he was a passenger at Juve.

Anyway, I am done, the street is tough. Well done!

1) You should learn to stick to the truth, for the truth will set you free. Pogba was never Serie A player of the season.

2) I never said he was a passenger. I said the team was not built around him and he was just part of the system, which is why he played well there.

Serie A Player of the Year 2012-2014 Andrea Pirlo,

Seria A player of the Year 2015 Carlos Tevez,

Serie A Player of the Year 2016 Leonardo Bonucci.

All of them were Pogba's team mates.

So please come and swear in front of Otem's shrine and tell us the year Pogba was Seria A player of the year.

TrebleChamp:
Doc you go wicked for real life sir

LOL. No matter how i wicked reach e no fit rival Mourinho.

Edinson Cavani has trained with the boys.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71vzFpN7SCc

nitrogen:
And that's why he is the numbers guy. Penalties should make over 50 percent of his goals. In terms of assists, yes, he has a lot because he plays the number 10 role. Pogba does not even need to play as a 10 before dropping assists and even scoring goals. Check 18/19 Pogba stats.

It is not me you need to convince. I have always said Pogba has a more complete skill set than Bruno. However Bruno's application of his skills is better. Pogba is allowing his talents go to waste IMO.

Meanwhile it is just below 30% and not 50%. You should check his highlights pre-United. The guy has more to give.

nitrogen:
You are right, but wait, Bruno has played over 30 penalties while pogba only played 18.....na Penalties bruno come play for this world? Geez!

Simple. Pogba being an average penalty player will always share duties like he did with Rashford, while Bruno will be undisputed no1 in all but very few teams.

nitrogen:
I agree, but yes, we have hardworkers too. Herrera at some point, Fred, Mctom etc...

Also, Ole needs to stop the sissy thing jare.

1) Ole is not Deschamps who has a sort of quiet Roy Keane personality. He does not talk much but is as tough as nails. Was the same as a footballer.

2) If Deschamps the world cup winning captain and managers treats his phuck Pogba has to keep quiet. He can't change countries and his useless agent can do nothing. if Ole does the same thing we start hearing rumors of him moving to Madrid again.

The scenarios are a bit different.

nitrogen:
How many penalties has Pogba taken in the EPL, what is the success rate? Infact, how many penalties were awarded to Utd between 2016 and 2019 vs 19/20 season? Can you back your assertions with numbers/facts?

OGS plays one system, we all know it, and it's aparent that it does not work for Pogba, simple! When OGS was relying on Counter-attacks, who was always the ochestrator. You guys are fickle!

I have to come in here. Bruno is Pogba's oga in penalties.

Pogba 69% success rate at Man Utd and 72% for his career

Bruno 91% success rate at United and 91% for his career.

eph12:
Na you still carry mou talk come o

You dey mind dat one?

raumdeuter:
Mourinho can never lose a lead, he can never lose a 2 goal lead

Once Mourinho scores 2 just forget the game

Yen yen yen

Mourino na bomboclaat. See as he cut the ticket of his worshippers.

Ticket don cut o!

Joezinho:
K..

Mourinho fo boboyi je.

nitrogen:
My God! Maybe you did not watch Utd at that time. Meanwhile, most of our big games were dominated by players like Pogba, Rashford, Ibra, even Martial.

Again, the streets are unforgiving. It's so sad!

I have a question, why is Pogba effective when playing for France?

Because he is part of the system and not the foundation. There is pressure on Mbappe, Griezmann to deliver before they think of Pogba. In France nobody is counting his goals and assists. All he needs to do is recycle the ball and give the occasional majestic pass.

Plus he usually has hardworking men like Kante or Matuidi or Nzonzi (all very mobile) to babysit him.

Plus he has a no nonsense coach like Deschamps who will treat his phuck up if he does not play exactly according to instructions.

Joezinho:
Mourinho. !!!

I believe you. Prove them wrong..

Wahala for who nor like u.

This post did not age well.


But Mourinho, O WRONG NAU!!!

But this Mourinho wicked o. How can you dash your worshippers L like this? And on a holy day like Sunday?
See evil.

GloryIsaac:
I saw the poster drop multiple posts shading others because Spurs were 3 goals up.

Well... sometimes, there's no need to reply because the god of football will reply on your behalf lol

Otem did not desert his people. LMAO.

Pogba's skillset is higher than Bruno's own o. I don't think it is even close but that is just my opinion.

What Bruno has his application and attitude. Things that Pogba lacks.
It is like a brilliant student that refuses to submit assignments or answer questions in class. You just brilliant for your own pocket.

That is the most painful thing about Pogba's situation. But nitrogen has a point that in a different formation like a true 4-3-3 with a mobile CDM behind him Pogba would perform better than he is doing now.

Lana1:
Some people will not wait for game to finish. They'll just come here and open mouth waaaaa......
Everything must be an agenda with them.

Sebi na the Spurs we dey see so. Because we spread yansh and allow them knock us for 6 and because they were leading West Ham 3-0, Spurs and Mourinho have suddenly become the next best thing since Tai Chi?
We were doing 4-0 FC in Mourinho's second season yet we know how that season ended.


If na Ole just bottle 3-0 home lead like this, this place would already be full of agenda posts.


Wait make match finish....but no. Can never be them.

Hehehehe

JM phuck dem up. Doing cho cho cho like underworked olosho. Premature ejaculators.

GloryIsaac:
3-0 to 3-3

The god of football takes pleasure in making people eat their words.

HAHAHAHAHA

Some people dey jonze still dey dream about Mourinho.








Tie the L around your neck like a silk tie.

eph12:
I agree with this. The team can't be built around him. I think they were trying to build the team around him because of how much he was bought. That was a mistake.

Meanwhile, I have always hated that 4231 formation even in my FM days

Yeah i don't like 4-2-3-1 especially if you are trying to play attacking pressing football with a high line.

eph12:
You stated that he has never played 10, meanwhile I never mentioned anything about 10. I checked up where he has been most effective and I realized the pattern.

We don't play those formations. We play a 4-2-3-1. Unless you want us to switch formations just for him when he is on the field. And as a midfielder the roles often overlap. He is the only midfielder i know of that must play in exactly a kind of role or else he can't perform.

Let me tell you the truth about Pogba. In all those teams you mentioned he was not the best player or the most important player but just part of a system that worked. That is the secret to "unlocking" him at Man Utd.

We initially made the mistake of building the team around him and making him the main man rather than just buying good midfielders and slotting him in to play a role. He is not built for that. Make him a system player like at Juve and France and you will see the best out of him.

eph12:
In Juve, he had Marchiso and Vidal playing beside him in the midfield or Marchiso and Khedira in midfield beside him. In the world cup winning squad, he had Kante and Matuidi. Who was the 10 among these players?

You brought up the details so please you can tell me who was 10 in those teams.

eph12:
Pogba will be much better with less defensive work. Two solid CDM behind him will bring out the best in him. He shouldn't be playing from deep unless the team is playing defensive football

Pogba was not a 10 as a youth player, he wasn’t a 10 in Juve, he does not play as a 10 for France.

When he was used as a 10 for a short period under JM he struggled to get involved in games and people said he had to be played in a deeper role so that he can influence games.

Now you are saying he should be moved back again to 10?

[quote author=TrebleChamp post=95059439]Can someone pls fax this line-up to OGS. I would put Cavani if available in place of Martial though..[/quote


Cavani has mot played a game in half a year and he has not had a single training session with the team. It is highly likely that he would be lacking both match fitness and understanding of the system.
In addition because of his recent injury problems i would prefer we blend him into the team slowly.

engrelvis:
OK.from yr analysis we shudnt play him(mata) against PSG?

PSG use their full backs to push forward and create width. We will most likely be chasing and closing down their players for long periods.

Not a Mata game.

I would play a 3-5-2 and leave Martial and Rashford up front.

Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw as CBs.

Telles, AWB as wingbacks.

Matic, Bruno, VDB in midfield.

Cavani, Greenwood, Pogba, Bailly, Fred, McTom on the bench.

engrelvis:
In terms of our squad n depth only few clubs in EPL can compete with us.D coaching crew is our problem.ole shud nt b benching mata for now.

It is not as simple as that. There are certain games that suit Mata and there are others in which he will struggle.

For instance if you play him on that RW against Chelshit he won’t be able to cope with Chilwell’s overlapping runs and will be a major liability.

Against teams that we dominate and sit back against us he becomes a major asset with ultra high intelligence and technique.

CapitalCee:
VDB changed the game. Deft and brilliant touches in midfield with mata and Bruno. James is not intelligent

VDB is a very smart footballer. His brain is on a high level. Dan James is relatively headless.

KingAlabi:
Not supporting ole because of this win though


But did you see how fluid our front 4 were??

Na like this ole dey set up im team even for molde

And you see how they also we're trying post anyhow(shoots)?

Same thing

I am happy for Lindelof today

He wasn't noticeable in the game but was ice cold in defending

Forget all that Molde tales by moonlight.

Ole is neither a great tactician nor trainer. Godfrey Esu would look like Johan Cruyff in that Norwegian league.

Nezzjnr:
Spillo1

LMFAO fall out

KingAlabi fall out

See why e good to dey calm down?

nitrogen:
I just hope this is the turning point o, OGS should stop fooling Utd fans

Ole is not great tactically and he is not a great trainer as well so i don't think there will ever be any major turning point. Sooner or later we will need to get a MAJOR upgrade at the manager position. I just don't think Poch is that person.

So many knee jerk reactions here on seeing the lineup. Otem never leave Ole side.