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Leyqute:
Na wah o.

E shock you?

iamoyindamola:
I checked he's the richest footballer with the same worth

That is not accurate and it is from an iffy site. The Sultan is the one worth that amount and lazy websites are now using that figure for his nephew.

Use reputable sites. Some of these sites are just copy and paste.

iamoyindamola:
*Top 10 Richest Footballers in 2020*

1. Faqih Bolkiah £20 billion (Leiceister City, 21 years)

2. Cristiano Ronaldo £ 460 Million( Juventus, 35 years)

3. Lionel Messi £400 Million ( Barcelona, 32 years)

4. Zlatan Ibrahimovic £190 Million( Ac Millan, 38 year)

5. Neymar da Silva Santos Junior £185 Million ( PSG, 28 years)

6. Wayne Rooney £160 Million ( Derby Country, 34 years)

7. Gareth Bale £125 Million ( Real Madrid, 30 years )

8. Andres Iniesta £120 Million ( Vissel Kobe, 35 years )

9. Eden Hazard £100 Million ( Real Madrid, 29 years)

10. Paul Pogba £85 Million (Manchester United , 27 years)
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Number 1 touch my body and soul

No 1 is wrong. He is not worth that.

The Sultan of Brunei himself is worth $20 billion. He has 12 children.
Faiq is one of the 18 children of the Sultan's brother Jefri.

Ibime:
I don't think there can be any practical study that would satisfy members of team Chloroquine cos that would require access to infected people at home with mild symptoms who have also been diagnosed. This is the most comprehensive study so far though. Although the African experience, particularly low mortality in the likes of Senegal who have an early Chloroquine deployment policy, although anecdotal is a decent argument in favour of Chloroquine.

Personally speaking i don’t think enough has been made of the effect of climate on transmission and viral replication.

There is a reason why the seasonal flu peaks during the colder months of the year.
This reason is likely not too far from the reason why the Northern Hemisphere bore the brunt of this epidemic.

Regarding the chloroquine therapy for mild symptoms. If it only works for people that have such mild symptoms that they don’t even know they are sick, of what use is it?

It has to work for people with clinically significant symptoms for the Risk/Benefit ratio to make sense.
From the info the pro-Chloroquine lobby has given so far the Number Needed to Treat (NNT) would be so high it might not make much sense to use the medication.

Ibime:
No mind am. I no know why DonJ bring this kain civil war talk come here.

Don Jazzy like fight pass anything. If you leave him alone he can argue with himself.

I had 2 close friends in Uni (1 Igbo, 1 Bini), and we were all history buffs.
We discussed everything from the Peloponnesian War to the Battle of Prokhorovka.
We pretty much left the Biafran war alone.

Ibime:
No, the Tom Biggar was a half-caste so it is likely say na Louis go done sire both of them, unless Ojukwu mama done run go meet white man at some stage after Ojukwu was born.

Yes I know he is half caste. I read that the mum divorced the dad and married a white guy.
Like I said it wasn’t a reliable source, so you might be right.

Ibime:
This is the most comprehensive retrospective study on Chloroquine so far.


https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext


It be like say I go reconsider membership of team Chloroquine, although one counterargument is that all these patients where hospitalised, mostly in the West which indicates advanced viral replication as they only hospitalise you in the West when water done pass Garri. Chloroquine advocates always argue it is too late at this stage. However the study also included a key control which is that patients had to have had Chloroquine within 2 days of Covid diagnosis. So far no study has set such criteria which favours the "taking Chloroquine early" argument, however there is still wiggle room for Chloroquine advocates to argue that Hospitalisation itself is an indicator of advanced disease in the West, as they will not admit you till things done dey red.

Of 96,000 patients analysed in hospitals, 15,000 patients were given Chloroquine sometimes in combination with a macrolide like azimothrycin. Patients treated more than 2 days after diagnosis were excluded as were patients on ventilators.

The death rates of the treated groups were: hydroxychloroquine 18%; chloroquine 16.4%; control group 9%. Those treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine in combination with antibiotics had an even higher death rate.

Age/Race/Sex/Co-morbidities were fairly evernly spread between the Chloroquine groups and Control Groups.

The only argument left for team Chloroquine is to focus on the Hospitalisation argument that the virus has already proliferated by hospitalisation stage, also you have time lag between Hospitalisation and diagnosis turnaround time plus up to 2 days allowed by the study meaning these patients could be anything from 10-30 days into infection by the time Chloroquine was prescribed.

Afrodoc2, TheCassanova, Victornezzar, do you think this argument may still be valid for Team Chloroquine? Also how about other Zinc Ionophores such as Quercetin etc? Any benefit in that?

Well more information is needed.

Remember i was never convinced about this Chloroquine issue. The level of evidence was just too weak.

Anecdotal reports and Lab studies just don’t cut it in terms of driving a change in the management of a disease as major as this.

This study you quoted is better but until large randomized double-blind control studies or even a meta analysis of several such studies are done it would still be a gamble.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Nobody's saying you're wrong.

He was killed in Nsukka by Nigerian soldiers,but he did not die as a Biafran soldier

Or do you have any source that labelled him as one? I'd love to learn[/color]

He was living in Biafran territory under the Biafran government and was from there leading small groups of Biafran soldiers to attack Federal soldiers.

He died during one of such missions against Federal troops in the company of his fellow Biafrans.

No labels are necessary.

Ibime:
Ojukwu brother name dey always make me laugh

If not that i read it in Ojukwu’s book I would have doubted. Name sounds somehow. Lol.

I read somewhere that they were half-brothers and shared the same mother and different fathers but i don’t know how true that is.

Ojukwu mentioned the deaths in his book, I believe in the portion in which he was trying to dispel the belief that he and Nzeogwu were never in good terms.

BlueRayDick:
Yes. He was killed in action in July 1967

Yup. He died in an ambush along with Ojukwu’s brother Tom Biggar.

BlueRayDick:
Exactly. There's a recent one by Alabi Isama that bàbà hate Obasanjo like mad ; he claimed Obasanjo is a coward that took other people's shine in the war effort. He claimed all those glowing words Obasanjo used to qualify himself in his book "My Command" were all lies.

When he was going to media houses creating awareness about his book, Alabi Isama claimed Obasanjo while fleeing the battle field was shot in the buttocks . I bust laughter that day ehn.

Everybody that participated in the war and wrote a book is telling the story from their perspective

Hahaha. Yeah i remember Isama and his campaign against Obasanjo.

To be fair he was only saying what many had said for several years. Right from my primary school days i had heard that Obasanjo only benefited from the work done by Benjamin Adekunle. In essence Black Scorpion set the table, only for OBJ to come and eat the food.

odizeey:
Why you stubborn?

You can be intellectually intelligent, but also be emotionally intelligent.

This is the kind of argument that started the war. E don happen. E don happen.

MAke we no let the mistakes of our ancestors still dey cause divide among us.

His egungun always likes express.

BlueRayDick:
This is a very sensitive discuss that will flare tempers if it is discussed here. I've read at least 3 books on the war by Late Prof. Chukwuemeka Ike, Olusegun Obasanjo and Chinua Achebe.....There's this other one that detailed the trial of Banjo and Ifejuna ( My old man keeps these books)....

I can tell u there is no true version of the war story. Most people see it from their own side of the war.

From the Sahara reporter's link the interview showed Ojukwu and Awolowo had a discussion in which Ojukwu confirmed was not binding per se.

If we have this discussion it will get messy with some people claiming Awo is a sellout while some will claim He didn't make a promise to Ojukwu and in fact if he did the Igbos deserve it because Zik betrayed Awo and his AG back then when Zik abandoned his pact with Awo and joined forces with Tafawa Balewa to form a government in the first republic.

Honestly the topic will just worsen some old wounds

Exactly right.

I have read Why we struck (Ademoyega), Because i am involved (Ojukwu), Not my will (Obasanjo), Madiebo's book, Sunset in Biafra (Amadi), Chukwuemeka Ike's novel (Sunset at Dawn)

The story you read depends on who is telling it.

donjazet:
But the igbos were being massacred in thousands in the north, their properties were also being vandalized, that is by definition "force".
Secession was the only viable option at that point. I do think awolowo's promise further emboldened him to secede at that particular time.

The previous political debate indicate that irrespective of conflicting opinions, we can discuss anything here without quagmire.

WE here can, but there are entities roaming NL looking for this type of issue to cause trouble.

donjazet:
Raumdeuter, I would like to pick your brain on this subject matter, as you know our history has been soo distorted, it's difficult to know facts. it has been hotly debated that Ojukwu freed awolowo himself on the agreement that himself and the Yoruba would secede from Nigeria but upon his release changed his mind.
I just read an article on Sahara reporters that stirs my inquisition.
If they did infact agree, why do you think awolowo reneged on the agreement?

Cc blueraydick, larride, Ibime etc.

http://saharareporters.com/2011/11/26/my-last-interview-dim-chukwuemeka-ojukwu-rudolf-okonkwo

He is quoted here as saying if the Ibos were forced out he would take the Yorubas out as well. That is not the same thing as having an agreement to secede.

Starting such a topic here is risky though.

BlueRayDick:
Shakushaku Era.

Excellent answer.

Greatihex:
exactly. The Messis, Ronaldos and Hazards etcs will still dominate in that era just like those ones in that era that dominated will still dominated in this same era. All that is needed is the talent and work.

Pastor, why you wan sneak Hazard name inside? Which era did he dominate?

BlueRayDick:
I agree with this. What I just don't get is when people say the same defenders we see in these old clips will stop some of the today's attacks like Messi, Ronaldo and others...when in fact the defenders of nowadays who have also benefited from the advancement in training, sports medicine etc cannot do the stopping.

The great defenders are mainly from the 80s and 90s i.e Scirea, Baresi, Bregomi, Sammer, Maldini etc with a few additions from the 70s. I can't think of a single universally accepted all time great defender who stopped playing before 1970.

One thing you have to remember though is that football ability is not all about athletic ability. Being faster and stronger does not automatically make someone a better defender.
Studying the game, maintaining focus, working on your craft everyday (rather than being on social media) are also important, and those guys did these things more.
Defending now is not as good as 2 decades ago because of rule changes but also because it is not as fashionable and players just don't work on it as much.

There is no central defender playing now who is near Scirea, Baresi, Beckenbauer level. Take Baresi (who i have always believed was the greatest) for example. His record in finals shows a lot of clean sheets and single goals conceded, compared to others who played in his era AND the so called great defenders of these days who win finals 4-3.

BlueRayDick:
Honestly I still don't understand how people rate footballers that played in this Era at per or even higher than some great players we have now.

I mean watching this match, it gives a vibe of two Ajebutter private schools playing against each other. See each of the teams when defending allowing the offensive team as much space as they need ....They even allow the ball to bounce around when passing or controlling the ball . The ball is just too loosely played around.

Sincerely I don’t rate the football they play during those era higher than what we have now

The general level of football is not higher than now. I don't think anybody would argue otherwise.

Advances in training, diet, medicine, ball technology, pitch quality means players will continue to get better.

With regards to comparing great players from different eras, it is more about comparing how dominant each player was in his era and trying to assess how they would do against each other if they all had the same environmental factors.

nihilistjnr:
Well did they write UCL on their medals?

To avoid any argument let us watch this clip from the final showing Charlton scoring 2 goals en route to victory. Hopefully there is a close up of the medals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCId9ChW9PQ

nihilistjnr:
That's not what I asked you sir.

What is the name of the competition printed on Charlton's medal? Is it UCL?

This same argument can be used for Paolo Rossi, Der Kaiser, and Gerd Muller.

Why the focus on Charlton?

BlueRayDick:
I saw this traveling expense memo of the Lagos state house of assembly speaker this morning.

This is exactly why people will do anything to get elected into such posts. Obasa dey cash out pass Sinzu money o

Na him dey approve the largesse by himself and for himself

Where did you see that? I hope nobody will get in trouble for it?

Victornezzar:
Do you know if there's a river around there

Check google. It is located by the banks of River Ogun.

Leyqute:
LooL. He must be mad in the head. Heard he’s been sharing everyone’s posts on the thread.

It is actually quite funny. Nihilist destroyed him emotionally and psychologically.

Some of these trolls are the most thin skinned forms of life you could ever come across.

Victornezzar:
Shebi na just to get boot... Have sense and just be passing ball around??

Make person sponsor me na

I'll turn you to my agent if I eventually make am

You wey all your joints don ossify. Too late bruv.

patrickmuf:
See car wey Greenwood dey cruise...

The boy is on £25k per week. With increase of 10k per week yearly.

Nihilist.

May you walk in safety and never stumble.

That finishing move you gave anything anything was a work of art.

Una see where troll dey shalaye before? The guy come dey call witnesses dey swear oath.

Tough!

Phuck shit!

See tsunami.

Greatihex:
I remember when you said that Odoi was better and I just replied you with, "hmm" because I didn't have strength to argue that day.


Truth is, I knew from time that Pulisic is better than Odoi.

The guy can dribble. Is more creative, has an eye for goals, and can actually score the goals.

Na only body Odoi get pass Pulisic. Pulisic get ball sense pass am.

I used the Sanchometer.

donjazet:
How many people on this thread can claim to be very tolerant? In so far as you comment regularly, you must receive some forms of unwarranted attacks from random people, it becomes difficult to ignore and tolerate all, you have to counter some.

I need not remind you that you too do spar with people here.

I don hang my boots lol.

Most of mine is football and banter related though. I try to avoid all the Religionist vs Atheist, PDP vs APC arguments.
Those are the things people hold dearest and because of that it almost always degenerates to roforofo. Nobody is converting anybody here.

You do have a point though that nobody is perfect.

donjazet:
This is false and unwarranted, I didn't know you were this disingenuous. If you go through my posts, you see that I mainly counter attack those who attack me first. Very rarely will I attack someone unprovoked.
For example, take the feud myself and Segendiho had few days back, I was just making a case against the belief in juju when the guy attacked me out of the blue, calling me a mumu and telling me to go fuck_ myself. That was very uncalled for and there was no way i could ignore that.

Or airmark making so many disparaging remarks about me, if someone insults me, he would quote the person and mention me, I kept tolerating and avoiding him for a long time until i couldn't anymore.
I say again, I don't instigate attacks, I only fire back.

Just advising you bruv. I don’t have beef with you.

Just remember this. There is a thin line between activism and intolerance.

Ibime:
Hian! Doc, you were also more than happy when Coogar was banished from this place!

Hian! I had a good number of battles with the guy but miss his shenanigans.
This place was duller for sometime after he left before it recalibrated.

During that period i was on the fence and just wanted the truth to come out.
I was hoping against hope that Coogar was innocent until it became too obvious that he and Arif were running format.

It was just sad for it to be confirmed that he was what I suspected all along.