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Drlumi:You are preaching to the choir here. Nigerians, with this election have proved to be the most ignorant and foolish people on earth. Instead of attacking those that have been misruling them for 12 years, they are busy castigating a man who has not held any political position in the country. All he has done is to seek for good governance in Nigeria. Most Nigerians truly deserve to be in hell |
jmaine:[size=14pt]Sometimes I wonder which planet people like you come from. In any truly free, fair and fraud free (Most Nigerians are used to fraud in one way or the other so it does not bother them)election, PDP or any bad party like PDP will not win elections anywhere. God's anger will still vist those that clinically perpetrated the biggest electoral fraud in history in the SS and SE. There was no way Jonathan would have won election without a run off. Yes I know some people will start their usual illogical statements like Buhari did not campaign in the south east, south south, Jonathan would still have won in these areas blah blah blah. Nigerians have proven to be a people that don't think and refuse to learn. Meanwhile governance has ground to a halt in Nigeria while the "elected" president is "chilling" in Obudu. He feels less concerned about current cost of living (the highest in the world) and the unbearable hardship in Nigeria. I do not have any sympathy whatsoever for those who were happy to vote for PDP[/size] |
Moderator, Do your work. Start to delete these meaningless threads |
A typical Nigerian is a fraudster-This is why they do not see anything wrong with electoral fraud or malpractice. Most are defending and justifying the fraud with everything they have. The consequence of electoral fraud is the production of corrupt and inept leadership. The consequence of inept leadership is security lapses. The consequences of security lapses is the allowance of time for people to be massacred they way they have been doing non-stop since I was born. Niger delta was boiling, Jos has been boiling and in all these, no significant security leadership has been sacked neither is there any descernable workable security measures put in place to curtail the madness. Violence can erupt any where in the world for any reason but the difference is that in serious countries response is rapid, thereby preventing blood shed or reducing it. With the way things are going in Nigeria-clueless leadership and the highly depressing pathetic followership, violence will continue without any solution in sight. We are a confused, unintelligent people with very short memory. It will happen again and people will complain the same way and after that all will be forgotten. Let us eradicate fraud from our lives. UNTIL WE SAY NO TO FRAUD, NOTHING WILL CHANGE IN NIGERIA |
[size=13pt]Let it be known to all that as long as rigging of any form continues, Nigeria will continue to suffer in different forms. Almost everybody here is screaming senselessly about killings in the north forgetting the root cause-rigging and fraud that has become Nigeria's second name. I expect many senseless response to this-That's Nigerians for you, lacking in common sense and proper analytical skills. Meanwhile governance is completely grounded in Nigeria[/size] |
Orikinla:Very Good Point!. I am indeed shocked the way Nigerians have responded to the political tragedy befalling our Nation today as a result of PDP's criminal leadership. Nigerians have shown that they are the most ignorant and dubious people in the world today with they way they reason especially those with "education" |
kawkab:[size=13pt]So because he did not campaign in these areas (though lies), the elections should be rigged? One man's ambition (Jonathan) is already plunging Nigeria into crisis. Can we do without Jonthan? Definitely yes. Please read what Primate Olabayo said about this deadly ambition in October 2010.[/size] |
[size=14pt]Can we stop already. Election was rigged. Simple. God is my Witness[/size] |
Jonathan’s Ambition ’ll Spell Doom For Nigeria -Primate Ayodele | Print | E-mail Written by Idowu Adelusi Saturday, 09 October 2010 NOTWITHSTANDING the change that took place in the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC), a cleric, Primate Elijah Ayodele of the INRI Evangelical Spiritual Church, Lagos, has predicted again that the 2011 general elections will not be free as anticipated by most Nigerians. The primate, who disclosed this to Saturday Tribune in an interview in Lagos during the week, said President Goodluck Jonathan has put his hopes in INEC to win the election. The prophet again reiterated that President Jonathan was not the person God ordained to win the election, but because of his “ambition and desperation,” he would use the power of incumbency to force INEC to rig the election in his favour. He said the method of rigging in the next year’s election would be different from what it used to be. “It will be more advanced, scientific, tactical and logical. It will be carried out in a more matured way,” he stated. Primate Ayodele who, a few months ago predicted that there would be bomb explosion in Abuja and political earthquake in Aso Rock which would shock Jonathan, said “the plan of God for this country is sancrosant. When you talk of winning election according to rule of the game, Jonathan will not win the 2011 presidential election. “He would influence INEC to rig the election in his favour and thereby force himself on the nation, contrary to the word of God. “His action will spell doom for himself and the nation. Only prayer can avert the crisis that Jonathan’s ambition will plunge this nation into. “He needs to listen, but those surrounding him will not give him breathing space till they push him into the pit. “I know that many pastors and alfas will tell him that he is the messiah and that the coast is clear for him. It will be like the day of King Ahab for many of them when they will bury their heads in shame. Let us choose as God directs, not by what they are getting from the politicians. “Many will see this message as a doom prophecy. I am not bothered about it. I am only saying what God asked me to tell the nation. “I can tell you today, I can stand anywhere in the world to call myself a prophet of God. I can tell you that about 80 per cent of my prophesies had come to pass, not 100 per cent. “Before you mention two or three prophets in Nigeria today, my name would come up. I am still saying that Jonahtan’s ambition will plunge this country into crisis. Let him take certain steps to save himself and the nation. The bomb explosions are a warning sign,” he stated. |
[size=13pt]Very good. let's expose the fraud[/size] |
[size=13pt]Sounds like a man whose property was stolen by an identified person and was asked by sympathisers to accept his faith as an act of God. When will accepting rigged elections stop in Nigeria?[/size] |
I want to appeal to Nigerians to stop celebrating and defending fraud. Stop attracting God's wrath to yourself especially the Christians among you. The elections were rigged. Something we as a people always forget-that what goes around, comes around. Next time (maybe starting with the next governorship election) it will be the turn of your candidate or even you to be cheated and rigged out and do expect people to be here celebrating and justifying why the fraud was the best thing to happen. They will preach to you that it is the Lord's doing and that you shoud be gallant in accepting the defeat. They will be explaining to you why you or your candidate lost-that you did not spend 10 days in each of the constituency. Any protest from you or your candidate will attract calls for your arrest. They will try to justify to you that 100% turn out was expected and that it should have even been 105%. They will give you many other reasons why you lost (besides rigging). We have been this road before and it seems Nigerians never learn and will keep repeating mistakes over and over. In 2015, the same rigging will occur and people will react the same way and yet we expect a better country. Nigerians beware and be careful for he that seeks equity must come with clean hands. Mark my words!!! |
[size=14pt]Nigerians, stop defending fraud. Stop attracting God's wrath. The elections were rigged. Something people always forget-what goes around, comes around. Next time it will be the turn of your candidate or even you to be cheated and rigged out and peole will be here celebrating and justifying why the fraud is good. He that seeks equity must come with clean hands. Mark my words!!![/size] |
[size=13pt]2 countries- Made up of that are honest with principles[/size] [size=20pt]and[/size] [size=13pt]those that love and cherish corruption, fraud and incompetence[/size] |
ONLY FOR THOSE that are honest. Dishonest people should keep off 1. Were the election results from south east and South South altered, inflated and rigged for PDP? 2. Is there any measure put in place presently to scrutinize the ballots from these zones? 3. When is the government going to start arresting and prosecuting election riggers (rigging is worse than military coup)? 4. Why is an average Nigerian not bothered about fraud and consequences of fraud? 5. Why must we continue to rig elections and expect every thing to continue to be okay? 6. Must we continue to accept rigged elections in Nigeria. 1999 rigged, 2003 rigged, 2007 rigged, 2011 rigged? (2015 to be rigged if nothing happens now) 7. Are we going to continue to rig elections and continue asking the losers to accept defeat? 8. Is it okay to rig elections at all for any body? 9.Would it have been okay for the northerners to rig the election and asked the Southerners to accept defeat? |
[size=14pt]BLAME the criminals that rigged elections in SS and SE[/size] |
[size=13pt]He that seeks equity must come with clean hands. Jonathan was warned not to allow people to rig the election for him. He did not heed the advice and allowed the same criminals to wreck havoc in the South South an south east. Why did Jonathan 's people need to rig if he was sure of victory. We can not continue this fraud. Any nation built on the foundation of fraud can not last. While I advise Buhari to call his people to order, I make no mistake in also calling for cancellation of all elections in the whole of South East and South South and all areas in the north where there were rigging and underage voting. This idea of accepting fraudulent election must not continue. We accepted fraud in 1999, 2003, 2007 and now. If the issue is not resolved now, some people will still want us to acccept rigged elections in 2015 as if dishonesty is the only thing that works and is compromised in Nigeria. We must make efforts to arrest all those causing trouble now in the north as well as those that perpertrated the massive rigging in SS and SE. Enough said[/size] |
toni tone:[size=20pt] Nigerians just love Fraud[/size] |
yomifoster:[size=14pt]The bolded are just excuses. Most people from the SS had long decided to vote for him because he is from there, those in the SE decided to vote for Jonathan because his middle name is Ebele (Ebelemi). what Nigerian people need is education so as to be more informed on how democracy works. Ignorance is ravaging the people of Nigeria-North to South. There is absolutely nothing like despising the people of the SE. In 2003, he chose an Igbo(Okadigbo as his vice) and 2007 chose Umezoke) and campained vigorously everwhere only for the elections to be rigged for Obasanjo and Yaradua. He was able to campaign effectively then because he was an ANPP member that had governors and National assembly members that could support financially. CPC is barely one year old and had no elected official that could use government funds to prosecute the criminally expensive campaigns. He had to pick his battles. Besides, I do not think that any informed voter, with the technology every where needs personal visit from candidates to choose the better candidates. And to correct you, PDP did not do any campaign. All they did was to gather at rallies, show of their Ashoebis, scream PDP and that's it. Do you call that campaign. If that is what you call campaign, then Nigerians do not need them. The biggest problem in Nigeria today is dishonesty and support for dishonesty. Nigerians are terribly morally bankrupt. Any government that can not fiercely fight fraud in Nigeria will NEVER have my support even if I become a lone ranger in this fight[/size] |
Bensonite:[size=15pt]The usual Nigerian rambling, making no sense. Fraud is fraud, whether by Jonathan or Buhari. We need to sanitize Nigeria, a country riddled with fraud of unimaginable proportion. People of your ilk see no problem with fraud and corruption-the biggest problem Nigeria has today. I believe you are a Christian (fake, I assume), the wages of sin (fraud) is death whether you like it or not. Incidentally, the last time Nigeria made any genuine attempt to fight corruption was under Buhari-that indeed makes him a saint at least by Nigeria's pathetic standards [/size] |
[size=20pt]General Buhari should raise money and assemble the best forensic experts in the world to challenge the despicable results being churned out from South east and south South. We can not continue to have losers as winners of elections in Nigeria. We can not continue to allow fraud to thrive in Nigeria. Where other states are 50% voters, SS and SE are having 80%, 90% and 100%. Let the riggers of this election as well as their families, supporters be cursed forever and may God never answer their prayers.[/size] |
Nigeria holds presidential election on Saturday, April 16, 2011. It is expected that the party in power will rig elections in favor of the incumbent, Goodluck Jonathan, a man that has refused to show any seriousness in governing his country. Most Nigerians grew up in a Nigeria that nothing works. They always celebrate mediocrity due to their total lack of knowledge of what good governance is. They ignorantly assume that humility or being a "good man" is enough to transform any country. They misunderstand the meaning of the word 'transformation' and use it improperly. Goodluck Jonathan has been amassing endorsements form various groups across the country majority of whom are the same people that have worked so tirelessly to keep Nigeria undeveloped because of their criminal economic and financial activities. Why would they not endorse him and jubilate when he wins. The rest of the people supporting Jonathan are the many other beneficiaries of the inept administration, the unbelievably gullible and ignorant. Nigerians, Here are God’s warnings for Nigeria and Nigerians [size=15pt]1. Should People gang up to rig the election in favor of anybody, each individual that participates in this crime will be cursed with his/her entire family. They will live the rest of their lives in agony. Strange diseases will be their portion, untimely and sudden deaths will befall the families, 2. For those that will be voting Jonathan, You are warned that Jonathan is not the type of Leader that Nigeria needs to deal with corruption and impunity. Harder times await Nigerians that decide to go ahead to vote for this man who has proved by nature, not to be a good leader. Nothing much will change in Nigeria after four years. 3. Those that will rejoice after Saturday due to Jonathan’s victory will have their celebration cut short. It will be business as usual in Nigeria, Hospitals will not be built nor properly equipped, corruption will continue to rule Nigeria, incompetence at every level will be rampant, inflation will continue. Hardship will continue to bite harder with Jonathan caring less or pretending to care without doing anything. You still have this opportunity to save your life and the lives of millions of Nigerians whose lives have been ruined because of many years of callous and irresponsible leadership in Nigeria. Vote wisely on Saturday Please save these for future reference [/size] |
edicolove:[size=14pt]What have the above listed petty, rehashed irrelevant issues/lies got to do with the problems we face in Nigeria today?. Nigeria's twin problems as of today are incompetence and corruption at all levels in every area of our governance. The earlier you face the present day reality that only credible, transparent and upright men like Buhari and Bakare can lead us away from our numerous iniquities, the better for you and your corruption infested groups. God is fast forsaking this Great country[/size] |
And do you think Buhari has a business being in the race now that there is so much noise about generational change of leadership? I have not been an apostle of generational change. Rather, I prefer generational integration. That is, integration of the best from the young and from the old so that we can move the nation forward. I am a Yoruba person and there is a saying among the Yoruba that it is the wisdom of the elders combined with the knowledge of the young that was used to create Ife, the cradle of the Yoruba. And I think we need to be careful in this country about change based on age. In the last twelve years, we have had quite a number of young men who came to power as ministers or governors and who are today in chains both within and outside the country because of their corrupt involvement. Many of them have soiled their hands. When you place such men side by side with Gen. Buhari, you will see a great disparity in terms of transparency and honesty. This is a man who had been a governor of North Eastern State, Petroleum Minister, Chairman, NNPC, PTF and above all Head of State. And yet, today, he does not have a filling station in his name, much less oil blocs, refinery and other investments in the oil sector. It was under him that Warri and Kaduna refineries were built and over 3, 000 kilometres of pipelines were laid. You know those who have held governorship positions in the last twelve years who own refineries abroad. Buhari, as PTF chairman, did not draw a single salary because he believed it would be immoral for him to be paid pension and salaries at the same time. When the board of the PFT sat and decided to buy cars for its officials, Buhari insisted that they should buy Peugeot 504 for everybody. When the cars came, the secretary of the body, Chief Ayotayo Apata, bought two 505, one for himself and one for Gen Buhari. And Gen Buhari said to him, ‘but we agreed on 504. He said, ‘the supplier just decided to upgrade the two of us at no cost to the PTF. Buhari said, ‘no, what is on the minute is 504, take it back to him and bring 504 for me. Tayo Apata ended up using the 505, while Buhari was using 504 as the chairman. He is a man who has lived a life of honesty and integrity. He has contested election in this country twice and defeated them but the released results said he came second. Yet, they couldn’t bring out any corrupt allegation against him. If he had soiled his hands, they would have used the EFCC against him as they did against those who were opposed to them or defected from their party. It means that the man is clean. What is killing Nigeria today is corruption. We have made more money in this present dispensation than any other time in the life of this country. But the lives of the people have become worse. In 1999, the poverty index was 45 percent. In spite of the huge revenue that has accrued to the government, today, the poverty level is 75 per cent. In 1999, 64 percent of our pupils were passing WAEC exams, after twelve years of PDP in power, 98 per cent of them failed WAEC and NECO exams. This has never come up for discussion for one day in the National Assembly. Every other index is going from bad to worse. The Global Financial Integrity recently came out with a report that says that between 2007 and 2008, 15 billion dollars left the shore of Nigeria every year on illegal transfer. The urgency of the moment is that we need a remedy of the presence that Buhari represents. We need Buhari at this time. We need a man who brings the remedy of presence in such a way that cat surfaces and rats find their ways. The empire of thieves in Nigeria must be disbanded. Buhari, today, is the man who has the moral status with unblemished record and impeccable integrity who can sit at the treasury gate and thieves will know that the time is up. When Obasanjo came into power and he was trying to smear the image of Buhari, it was former Governor Obong Attah who got up and said, "Which PTF are you talking about? I was a consultant to the PTF and up till today, there is no government agency in Nigeria that has done more diligence than the PTF. Every contactor with PTF that had a job of between N1 million to N10 million had to get a guarantee from Insurance company that if it failed to perform, the money would be repaid. Anybody taking a contract above N10 million had to provide a guarantee from a bank which would pay back the money in case the contract was not properly done. We need such a man of integrity today to move the nation forward. And luckily, he has a running mate who is also transparent. By the time we solve the problem of corruption, we can now move to good governance. Then, all the money that goes into individual’s pocket can now be channelled to other problems. For more on the interview, visit http://nationalmirroronline.net/interviews/8609.html |
Experts Weigh Brand Strengths Of Presidential Candidates . AS 2011 elections draws near, brand experts have begun to weigh brand visibility and proficiency of presidential candidates in the next general election. According to brand experts, who spoke with The Guardian, President Goodluck Jonathan is a controversial brand. The experts, however, see consistency and performance brand strength in both Congress for Progress Change (CPC) presidential candidate, Gen. Muhammadu Buhari and presidential candidate of The All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP), Ibrahim Shekarau. Most brand experts consider Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) presidential candidate and former boss of Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), Mallam Nuhu Ribadu, as political greenhorn, who may not satisfy Nigerians when elected. DDB Creative Manager, Chuka Obi, noted that Jonathan might have been divinely ordained to rule Nigeria. He said that Jonathan has not developed into a brand, but a product. He noted that Jonathan is the perfect example of a product with a perfect unique selling proposition (USP) and high market anticipation with zero performance upon trial. While product is the end result of a manufacturing process to be offered to the marketplace to satisfy a need or want, brand is the identity of a specific product, service, or business. Obi said: “Jonathan as a brand is playing what I term the superstition card. It looks like he was divinely ordained to be President. However, with a name like Goodluck .I believe there is a problem because there is no such thing as luck in spiritual circles; only favour, time and chance. So I think his luck card is all played out. His ethnic card is also fast evaporating as far as the learned people of Nigeria are concerned. “All he has now is major top of mind awareness that comes with being the incumbent president. But from the viewpoint of identity, I believe Jonathan has none because it is hard to hold on to any unique attribute. His D’banj debacle was an epic failure, and insult to the consumers. Jonathan is a product, but not a brand, at least not yet. He only evokes sentiments and no clear-cut expectations as far as perceptions go. ” Obi likened Ribadu to Baygon insecticide. He noted that although the brand could kill cockroaches on application, but could leave trail of destruction as after effect. He nevertheless prefers fireworks in Ribadu to gentility in Jonathan. “Like the famed insecticide, we do not really care as long as he (Ribadu) gets the job done. He is not as articulate as I would have liked him to be, but as in the case of Baygon, we pick the deadly efficiency of Ribadu over the refined yet questionable results of a Mobil aerosol (Goodluck). Ribadu’s value consistency enjoys highest top of the mind share, stemming from the nature of his work at the EFCC, the far from quiet circumstances encircling his departure and the recent nature of that organisation, “ he said. The creative manager said Buhari would only be a strong brand to contend with if only he would change communication method and campaign strategies. He said: “Buhari’s consistency is as much a plus as it is a problem. Buhari has not changed in any way. His values and messages have remained credibly consistent. Unfortunately, so has his communication. As a person and as a candidate trying to inspire people to bank on him, he needs to inject some ‘GTBank (modern) approach into his strategy and jettison his ‘Afribank’ (old school philosophy) approach. He needs to be more interesting because whether he admits it or not, consumer engagement is fundamental. He can not talks at people anymore, he has to talk with them; no matter how impeccable his message or selling proposition is.” Shekarau, according to Obi, is “ like Cowbell or Viju milk of the race, who sneaking up among already established players. He tiptoes into the political race using the element of surprise. However, the sustenance phase of his campaign will determine how long the success of this new brand will last. And Shekarau’s work in Kano shows that he is pretty consistent as far as values and speech are concerned.” According to another brand expert, Ilesanmi Brillow of Atele Communications, Jonathan is not a flawless brand. Brillow sees Ribadu, Buhari and Shekarau as good brands. On their brand attributes, Brillow said Jonathan is calm and “not desperate for power” .He added, “Buhari is disciplined and strong minded, just as Ribadu is known to be fearless, restless and vigorous.” Shekarau, he said, thought to be inconsistent in the face of the public, “is liberal minded and sound.” Brillow said: “Jonathan stands for a continuation of PDP mediocrity and which, is not consistent as a brand. I would liken him to Yale Biscuit that is not consistent in production. Buhari, who is known to be consistent, is a nemesis for corrupt politicians and a real switch to a new order. He is like a Close Up brand, which is ubiquitous (everywhere). Ribadu is fairly consistent and appeals to the young generation desirous of change. But he may have challenges with the older generation. I would liken him to GTBank brand. Shekarau stands for bright, intelligent leadership whose reasoning capability is excellent. He is like Chivita that is consistent, but hardly makes issue out of the consistency.” Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of Travland, Chuma Obi, said Jonathan is faced with identity problem. Buhari, he noted, is a progressive brand, just as Shekarau is an unsophisticated progressive brand. Obi said: “Jonathan represents the establishment. I cannot ascribe identity to him. His projected values are not complimentary as he is willing to dine with the devil to get what he wants. He has connected with the ignorant public, but to the discerning, he has not connected. He is like Goody Goody candy. “Buhari represents progressive politics. I identify him with integrity and determination. The values he projects are worthy and noble. He has been able to connect very well with the public like Maltina brand. Ribadu represents another arm of the establishment. The value he projects is also noble as he connects well with the public. Shekarau represents progressive politics and is identified with success and determination. He connects well with the public, but unfortunately he is provincial.” Another brand expert, Olufemi Popoola said that both Jonathan and Ribadu are stooges of ex-President Olusegun Obasanjo. He noted that Buhari forte may be his conservatism. He said: “Jonathan is Obasanjo’s stooge. Buhari stands for the old school politician. Ribadu is also Obasanjo’s stooge, who is inexperienced in politics. Shekarau stands for new breed politicians who are articulate. “Jonathan is a flat character, I think his name, Goodluck, and his quick rise on the political ladder best describes him. Buhari symbolises the conservative Northern values and old school politics. Ribadu is known as the action man, but as young and new school politician. He appears to be a candidate of compromise like Wilfort Dark Ale. Shekarau is a little unknown in the South. He, however, is a witty and convincing politician, with a track record of exemplary leadership in Kano.” Olufumbi Lehmann said Jonathan brand strength lies in incumbency power. He considers Buhari and Shekarau to be intelligent political brands, just as he noted that Ribadu is over confident. Lehmann said: “Jonathan has the leverage of an incumbent president, but has no idea of his own. He is lucky to be where he is. Buhari is a smart and experienced politician, who is after corrupt rulers of this country. He deserves a chance to rule because of his reliability, doggedness and determination. He is sensible. Ribadu is over confident and aggressive politician, who has nothing to offer. He is a confused politician, who should not rule us. He has not handled a project of national significance as far as I am concerned. Shekarau is a technocrat and very intelligent. But this is not enough to rule us, though he has done well for Kano State in the last eight years.” Korede Quadri, another political consumer, sees convincing brand attributes in Buahari and Shekarau. “The most unique presidential aspirant in the 2011 is Buhari. He is a disciplined person who headed Petroleum Trust Fund (PTF) with an indelible mark of honesty and judicious use of funds. I have never heard anything bad about Buhari. He is like the reliably Honda brand of car, which looks fragile on the surface, but tough and rugged in performance. Jonathan is a figure head that has been able to campaign because of incumbency factor, which makes money and campaign machinery possible for him.” http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42728%3Aexperts-weigh-brand-strengths-of-presidential-candidates-&catid=192%3Abrand-intelligence&Itemid=719 |
[size=14pt]So there is no one in Nigeria that can stream these games live for people to watch online. Since Nigeria played Madagascar in Calabar, Sierra Leone in Lagos, those games are yet to be seen anywhere online. Indeed shameful.[/size] |
[size=18pt]What is the difference between racism and tribalism?[/size] |
[size=14pt]Just few days ago, all ethnic based threads were deleted and some of the posters banned. You have started the unhelpful discussion. I call on the moderators to remove/delete this thread that once again does us no good. There are better issues to discuss[/size] |
mukina2:[size=14pt]Thanks for deleting them. Please be sure to do this regularly. Thanks[/size] |
[size=20pt]Moderators, It seems you are not doing your work properly. You allow all manner of people and posts in this forum. Please remove and ban any ethnic based threads. It does not do us any good at this point. Please!!!![/size] |