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Lana1:
Paul Ince is rètarded. No be today we just dey know. Every other club using a front 3 and buying defenders must be copying Liverpool too.

Martial, Lingard and Rashford have been playing together at United long before Liverpool formed their front 3. And we dey buy defenders almost every year....Bailly, Lindelof, Rojo, Darmian.
So i no sabi what he thinks United is copying from Liverpool.

Ole na thief of framework, like Lampard. But Frank own na in-house theft.

Ole is a thief.

andrew444:
Lol all barca fans knows barca na messi fc

Please say something else

At least you are not new to this thread

The shocking thing is that PSG have agreed to sell your Neymar to Madrid, only for Neymar to accept to move. More sorrow for Messi fc.

Messi fc

andrew444:
Yeah as one have made the top 3 of the balon d or and win more trophies and score more career goals than the twerker he met at europe

Dude football is all about goals and assist okay

Wake up from your slumber

He should come and do it playing with average players in an epl team.

Messi fc

andrew444:
Oga you have no point, you can keep on ranting about hazard and forcing he is better than neymar in all thread

The football world know the real deal

Yes, Fifa and Uefa also know the better player between the two.

Gentlewarrior1:
Lol. I might agree for mbappe at least due to certain factors


But that bum bum twerker

HELL NO!!


Neymars right leg better pass everything about hazard

Ok. The twerker that ensured he dived out of Russia.

Gentlewarrior1:
Don't mind them

They are very naive

Imagine someone saying dont sign neymar because coutinho is a beast on his good days. Can u imagine rubbish talk


Neymar delivers way better than griezmann,dembele,coutinho and even suarez.
He is reliable and can deliver without messi
Whenever he is with the ball; defenders treble. Whereas see as griezmann looks average as Bleep

Abeg make nobody try that nonsense again they compare neymar with all this griezmann,mbappe,hazard and even bale sef

The board needs to offer coutinho, rakitic and good cash for neymar abeg

Those two I crossed have surpassed him. Deal with the hype jobs in your team only.

Bimffo:
The only team Pep coached before managing Barcelona was Barcelona Team B and he coached from 2007-2008. Just 1 Year.

Just remove Pep from the List. If your stars align and you are good, then you are good. You don't need to speed 50 years in different levels before you become good as a Manager.

That's why he couldn't believe what's happening is Lampard's main work.

Zidane that he also mentioned only coached the junior before winning ucl for record time.

Let him continue to deceive himself with yeye Sarriball.

raumdeuter:
I wont be angry if we lose if we are getting Coutinho on loan at least. He is not Sane but he is an improvement

Why is Boathand on the bench, this is humiliation.

Lordjb:
Game on, See my signature below for link to stream the match

Only two people may use your link to stream. Raumdeuter and pkasso other Bayern fans follow live score.

BlueAngel444:
Sarri has Ronaldo and a pretty great team.

Ronaldo is not getting younger. Tempo of games are now getting faster as if players are on drugs 24/7.

nihilistjnr:
Bruh at the start of Conte era on this very thread Afrodoc2 was calling for Kante to be used as a box 2 box.

I should know - he was telling me.

If Afrodoc2 can see these qualities while peering between legs in the gynaecologist ward, how much more the managers who coach him daily.

The biggest difference between Sarri and Lampard is in that midfield arrangement.

We haven't seen Akpuruka as the last man shielding defnce like with Sarri. So far, Kante and Kovacic are acting like body guards.

We also haven't seen the nonsense where Akpuruka controls all the play. see Kovacic throwing better passes.

We don't even play from the back like that sef. kepa dey kick better long ball to Giroud to nod on Wednesday.

Emerson Kovacic Pulisic tap and go also happened very rarely under sarri.

Instead Alonso will run, collect ball by touchline and then instead of pullout will pass back to Kovacic or Hazard.

Morata will make 10 runs the ball will never come

And we will never press Liverpool under sarri. are you mad? Go and look at the possession stats if those games and compare to wednesday.

Anybody that sees 433 and claims Sarri invented it should come - I get bridge for sale for bariga side

The same sarriball that was knocked off immediately Jorginho was held by the balls. I couldn't believe that some people would say it was the smoker that gave Lampard a framework or platform or concept or foundation. Like seriously?

donjazet:
It's not shocking as you've claimed, it's logical.

Don't we credit Mourinho for other managers success after his first stint with us?

Avram grant took Chelsea to a Champions League final, who did you credit that success to? Mourinho or grant?
Hiddinks FA cup triumph, who did you credit that success to? him or Mourinho?

You make it sound illogical to give credit where due.
I am not saying that Lampard hasn't done anything yet but facets of the team bears Sarri's hallmarks.

Mou successors didn't send away his main defenders at the back to achieve, thats why Mou was praised.

By the time Azpi is benched for Reece, tell me why we must thank Sarri for playing from the back with the new players?

Jorginho is no more going to be the target for our opponents, to break down our play, so Sarri system is gone with the winds.

Once you merit it you play, according to Lampard. Nobody will be forming the coach son in the team.

donjazet:
Airmark, be honest, Kante has been known primarily for his tough tackling and very hardworking ethics, never has he been famed for his technicalities and creativity which we are beginning to see.
We scorned Sarri for playing Kante further forward because we knew his strength lay basically in front of the defense but that has inadvertently led to his development as a creative midfielder.
Against Liverpool, Kante was clearly the most advanced of the midfielders in terms of position while Kovacic and jorginho lay at the base.

When you say jorginho was the only link to our attack, you sound like that was the only problem we had with Sarri's tactics.
You conveniently leave out where a lot of us were pointing out the fact that hazards ball hugging was incompatible with the one touch passing and sleek off the ball movement we can see now. You also forget that Kante was learning the new role in which Sarri had thrust him into etc.

I continue to say that Sarri's tenure was clearly a learning curve for the team with positives and negatives ant to totally discredit those positives is unfair.

And more so we STILL can't define for certain what "Lampard's football" is.
It's still early to say if it's working or not. Certainly we wouldn't want to be in a situation where there is no good balance between the attack and defense.

Epl isn't Serie A, Sarriball would have put us outside top4, if Arsenal and United took their chances. The smoker would still have run to Juve.

If Lampard played another system at Derby, you might have got a good point. Sorry he is using same system here and i'm optimistic he will succeed despite the constraints.

United sat behind the ball for majority of the first half, we still managed to create multiple chances inside their box. I had nightmares under Sarri, when teams parked their buses. Now i have hope of creating chances if you like park trucks.

Would Sarri had done better, capital NO. Unless you want to say Hazard was the reason his system didn't work last term. We will see how Sarri will use his fat Higuain to achieve in europe.

nihilistjnr:
How anybody can look at what we played last night and see comparison to Sarriball is beyond me.

so if anybody plays 3 midfielders and 3 forwards, Sarri must take credit?

Shey we won't credit Sarri for inventing football too? or at least for building Stamford bridge?

It's shocking to say the least. All successors must thank their predecessors if they don't overhaul the team.

Kimbeast:
Let me give you a scenario.If Pochettino was to come in to replace pep at city, we know he has his own system already at Spurs but it's not out of place to say Pep framework will aid him in settling In and implementating his style better unlike him going to replace Simeone at Madrid where he will find it more difficult due to the system already in place. You can't say after just 2 matches that Lampard has already implementated his system which is utterly bullshit not when we are still seeing sarri template. He made few tweaks yes and gave the players more freedom to run with the ball more unlike sarri who is more system oriented. Change of personal doesn't necessarily mean change of system mind you.

Pocchetino will remove players that would spoil his style and leave those that would play it well at ATM.

Lampard is using a back four that are virtually different from those used by that smoker. Those who may spoil his system are out of it.

Lampard is not using Jorginho as the main man to start our attacks. Lampard is using Kante as a box to box midfielder. Kovacic is now joining to start our attacks and making more daring moves with the ball. Our players are playing with more intensity in attack. Our defenders need to be very swift while defending, reason Luiz is out, Alonso too and if Azpi doesn't adjust, he may follow suit.

The structure of Sarriball was built on Jorginho, Lampard's is not. So nothing like Sarri framework. Once you have those basics of football you can respond to training, if you have needed qualities, for the roles. Conte didn't need years to convert Moses to RWB. Mourinho had used Gallas as LB before. Bosingwa also played as LB. Essien as RB.

Lampard needed no Sarri to implement his system, his system will be implemented if you have those basic qualities taught in academies.

donjazet:
Airmark, I don't think we've seen enough games yet to judge Lampard's football.

Clearly we can see its attack-oriented, however we can't tell his preferred formation or starting eleven or his preferred tactical subs so it's fair to assume that aspects of the game play we see now are factors INHERITED from Sarri's system.

Kante has been injured since the end of last season barely training during that time frame, do you genuinely believe that what we saw Kante do the last match was as a result of Lampard's management or technical acuity

It's very reasonable to surmise that our players still display the fundamentals of Sarri's system.

Thats a very wrong assumption. He inherited nadda from Sarri system as i explained earlier, Jorginho no more our only link to attack. We now play more forward passes, which make our game more direct. All these he did at Derby, without Sarri being his predecessor there.

Kante was a box to box player, that was also explosive for Leicester that year. So Sarri wasn't the one that taught him that, in fact he underperformed under him.

If Tomori and Mount could do well under Lampard last season, i will rather believe he's the one improving Emerson and co this season and not Sarri.

donjazet:
Yes, I've also pointed out earlier that his undoing at Chelsea was his inflexibility, however his attacking/possession based tactics had already taken hold, we dominated games because our midfielders became adept at possessing the ball better, unlike previous years where we had to absorb pressure and always go long and direct via a counter.

You have to realize how ridiculous it sounds to say Sarri did absolutely nothing positive in his short stint with us. That's a fallacy, there were positives and negatives in equal measure.

If you gain say #50 and lose #50, your business will soon shut down. There must be more positives than negs in everything we do. We are already seeing more positives than negs with Lampard, despite the constraints.

We saw Derby vs Man utd and Chelsea last season, so nobody should tell us Sarri system aids Lampard's. Without Sarri here last season, Lampard would implement his system. Our back four has virtually changed, so not like Lampard feeding off Sarri's sweat of passing from the back.

Kimbeast:
Nobody said anything about foundation the term I used I was framework in the sense of the term set up, player roles etc. Kante is still being played in an attacking role, [b]jorginho is still the Anchor of the midfield,[/b]Pedro still uses the flank runs, kovacic sub for Barkley . the main reason as to why kante looked better against Liverpool than with sarri in same position is because
sarri was too hell bent on 1 touch passing and wouldnt allow players to run with the ball, kante and kovacic’s best attributes are running with the ball, which was curtailed by sarri because he wanted 1-2 touch passing progression which was his biggest flaw last season and not for his players to hold onto the ball and run with it.

Framework means concept or basic structure of operation.

Must most of our attacks go through Jorginho like we had under Sarri? That was the basic concept of Sarriball which we all saw last season and the moment opponents detected that, we started wobbling. Lampard's system is quite different as our transition from defence to attack is not only by Jorginho.

Lampard used this same system at Derby, and you have full backs and CMs linking defence to attack with forward passes, so nothing like using any Sarri framework.

If Laampard succeeds, he takes all the praises. If he fails he takes the blame. Leave Sarri out of it.

Kuginzi:
You're becoming more confused.
Where in the Bible Jesus call himself God. There is no single verse in the whole Bible where you can find "Jesus is the Lord" or I Jesus Iam the creator.

John 10:30-33 - Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

Kimbeast:
He countered nothing my friend. Don't follow the ignorant dolts on this thread. Look at the set up of our last match under sarri and yesterday against Liverpool. Lampard has copied Sarri exact template in the teams setup. The average position of every player is practically identical, Kante and Jorginho particularly. Not taking away from Frank, but the benefits of having sarri for just one year at Chelsea has aided Lampard's idea of football and in implementating it quicker.

Average position of every player dentical ko Jdentical ni. Maybe you expected Lampard to use Jorginho as our striker and Kante as our right back before you stop associating your Sarri with Lampard's system.

Lampard's system is not using Jorginho as our only conduit to attack, that alone has destroyed any association with that yeye Sarri system. We have more fluid and direct play compared to sideways and backward passes that we were bored with last term.

You were the same person that told us Kante wouldn't succeed in an attacking team under Sarri. So save us the thanksgiving ceremony you are planning for your Sarri.

Greatihex:
Raumdeuter no know ball. Walahi

Na monkey post football experience apari dey use.

raumdeuter:
How was Gomez and Matip ball watching

VVD was marking Giroud, Matip faced Pulisic and went towards his man, VVD instead of follwing his man stopped and was pointing

Why should they take over VVDs job in marking Giroud

Enrol your kid in a good academy as a defender. In few years time, your kid will educate you better and you will stop asking foolish questions.

That was how you argued blindly when VVD broke down Spurs attack last time. Now that brilliant defending is what experts use to teach their kids in soccer schools.

https://www.soccercoachweekly.net/newsletters/win-2v1-battles-like-virgil-van-dijk/

Greatihex:
the people to blame there are matip and gomez, gomez especially. had he run faster to mark giroud, he would have easily intercepted the pass

Gomez and Matip were ball-watching there, no sane person would expect VVD to keep running with Giroud when Matip and Gomez were there to take over the marking of Giroud.

Reece James for Wigan during the 2018-19 Championship season:

• Most minutes (3,972)
• Most chances created (74)
• Most take-ons completed (47)
• 2nd-most tackles made (94)
• 2nd-most interceptions (41)

By the time Azpilicueta gets replaced by this kid, i will want to see the remaining block in that Sarri foundation they will point to.

Reece-Christiensen-Zouma-Emerson

Greatihex:
did you watch that point were he just destroyed a counter just to do shakushaku for fun?

He even passed the ball back to his defender.

Lana1:
raumdeuter airmark see shakushaku at its finest.

Raumdeuter's version of shakushaku.

diggz:
When we lost against scummies I didn't read anything about the bricklayer laying foundation...them don see small potential now, e don turn to sarri foundation.

They need to restrict some monikers from posting on NL walahi.

Let him fail, they won't say Sarri's foundation causes it.

raumdeuter:
When a move is developing and you have your man, you keep up with your man. You follow your man. [s]A player will score the ball won't score itself. That is why they accuse defenders of ball watching[/s]

Follow your man when your man runs into your colleague who could easily check him.

diggz:
Those guys are sarri core players na! Can't you see the way mount, pulisic, tomori and co performed because of the chain smokers bricklaying skills?

Sarri, the bricklayer.

raumdeuter:
Disturbed and unbalanced, yet Tammy was able to shoot that the keeper had to pull a save.

That shot wasn't taken well, thanks to VVD's bravery. Giroud took his comfortably and he scored.

raumdeuter:
[s]You need a brain reformat first

Only a foolish defender leaves his man who is making a run into a dangerous area. VVD did he left Giroud went for Pulisic lost both and Giroud scored

When you are marking a striker, and he is making a run what should a defender do? Point fingers?

Fabinho was beside Pulisic and caught up with Pulisic, Matip was in front, why wouldnt Matip be able to stop him?

But the foolish VVD was pointing like a yellow fever while his team conceded[/s]

Obviously you never played football. In your mumu brain, defenders must mark only one player.

raumdeuter:
[s]Fabinho was already beside Pulisic and Matip in front of him,

what of Giroud that VVD was marking? He left him, started pointing and went to triple on Pulisic. lost that as well and the Giroud got free to score[/s]

Ogbeni go and wear glasses.

Giroud ran into Matip side, VVD would be stupid to continue running with him. That's what every experienced Cb would have done 100 0utta 100.

None of Fabinho and Matip would have stopped Pulisic from entering the box if VVD had foolishly followed Giroud as you suggested. Patapata they must bring him down. Stop arguing blindly.