European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:26pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Greatihex: abeg no tell me say those people wey wear blue come to play the same game with those wey wear red. then suppose dey go house nah. them don lose already. U16 USA 114 vs El Savador 19  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:22pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
diggz: I go soon create time for these people especially those wey dey carry talk and throway insult upandan bcuz their opinion and others own no align.
My village people go soon release me   Make them release you o. Abi make we beg Fenibeso to appeal to them? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 8:03pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
diggz: Dayo na my guy but e too dey fvck up! Na the person all these foolish youngies dey follow blindly. You see as apari don japa immediately.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 7:54pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: People will say any bunkum just to pillory Hazard. Such tripe only starts and ends on Nairaland.
Not in the real world. That's how some argued here that KDB was Belgium's main man, before the world cup qualifiers. They went mute during the qualifiers when Hazard was dragging them, with Debruyne nowhere to be found.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 7:48pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Melvyn11: So Modric winning the balon d'or makes him a better player than xavi? A simple yes or no will be ok. You are known for asking senseless questions. One can juxtapose the two to rate them. In laliga, Xavi won best midfielder of the year under Modric's nose thrice. Debruyne never beat Hazard to the best in epl when both were there. We are even fair to ask him to do it when he's gone. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 7:43pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: This is quite non sequitur to all we pro-Hazard commenters have said.
Wining multiple awards is a pointer to a player's ability and popularity.
Skilled players are always very popular and Hazard isn't an exception. Imagine what the mumu came up with.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 7:35pm On Aug 20, 2019*. Modified: 9:27pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Kimbeast: You always make lot of noise with little substance. No wonder you are always ridiculed on this forum. How does winning an award adds to the ability or quality of a player? The fact that aguero a world class striker never won the award and an average dunce like vardy did shows using the award to brag about who is a superior player is stupidity from your part and members of your cult. Who told you this? Is lordfalcao running this account? If you have problem with your eyes or brain, they have optician and psychiatrist in Man utd thread. First you said Lampard never won best epl player award before, now you said i claimed that awards would add to the ability of a player. If our argument is beyond your grasp, go and watch telemundo, where sometimes they argue in slow motion. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 7:33pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 7:22pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: Lol. He's even a few months older than Hazard. Hazard older by 4 or 5 months i think. They are not mates at all. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 7:15pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: Here are Hazard's individual honors according to Wikipedia:
UNFP Ligue 1 Young Player of the Year: 2008–09, 2009–10 UNFP Ligue 1 Team of the Year: 2009–10, 2010–11, 2011–12 UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Year: 2010–11, 2011–12 UNFP Ligue 1 Player of the Month: March 2010, March 2011, March 2012, April 2012 Bravo Award: 2011 FIFA FIFPro World XI: 1st team: 2018; 2nd team: 2015; 4th team: 2014, 2016, 2017; Nominee: 2012 FIFA Ballon d'Or/Ballon d'Or: 2015 (8th place), 2018 (8th place) The Best FIFA Men's Player: 2018 (7th place) Premier League Player of the Season: 2014–15 Premier League Playmaker of the Season: 2018–19 Premier League Player of the Month: October 2016, September 2018 Premier League Goal of the Month: February 2017, April 2019 PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2012–13,2013–14, 2014–15, 2016–17 PFA Young Player of the Year: 2013–14 PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2013–14 (2nd place), 2014–15 (1st place), 2016–17 (2nd place) PFA Fans' Premier League Player of the Month: October 2016 PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2018–19 UEFA Men's Player of the Year Award: 2015 (6th place), 2018 (9th place), 2019 (7th place) UEFA European Championship top assist provider: 2016 UEFA Team of the Year: 2017, 2018 UEFA Europa League Final Man of the Match: 2019 UEFA Europa League Squad of the Season: 2018–19 Chelsea Player of the Year: 2013–14, 2014–15, 2016–17, 2018–19 Chelsea Players' Player of the Year: 2014–15, 2018–19 Chelsea Goal of the Year: 2015–16 (vs. Tottenham Hotspur), 2016–17 (vs. Arsenal), 2018–19 (vs. Liverpool) FWA Footballer of the Year: 2014–15 ESM Team of the Year: 2014–15 Belgian Golden Shoe: 2017 FIFA World Cup Silver Ball: 2018 FIFA World Cup top assist provider: 2018 FIFA World Cup Fantasy McDonald's Overall XI: 2018 IFFHS Men's World Team: 2018 Belgian Sportsman of the year: 2018
Here are KDB's:
Bundesliga Young Player of the Year: 2012–13 Bundesliga Player of the Year: 2014–15 Bundesliga Team of the Year: 2014–15 UEFA Europa League Squad of the Season: 2014–15 Footballer of the Year in Germany: 2015 France Football World XI: 2015 Belgian Sportsman of the Year: 2015 Manchester City Player of the Year: 2015–16, 2017–18 FIFA FIFPro World XI 2nd team: 2018 FIFA FIFPro World XI 3rd team: 2016 IFFHS Men's World Team: 2017 UEFA Team of the Year: 2017 PFA Team of the Year: 2017–18 Premier League[192] Premier League Playmaker of the Season: 2017–18 UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2017–18,[193] 2018–19 FIFA World Cup Dream Team: 2018
The better player is obvious comparing these individual honors.
Furthermore, when both players played under the same coaches (in the national team and at club level), Hazard outperformed the latter. Humiliation.  One will think Hazard is older than him by like 7yrs.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 7:10pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Just like Michael Owen won balon dor which Raul Xavi, Henry never won Your Henry, the chief choker?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 7:07pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Kimbeast: Ok just checked he won one but that doesn't change my point. Winning that award adds nothing to a player quality or ability. Honesty the last part of your post is garbage. Vardy can't lace Aguero boots yet he has won one and aguero have won none. So by your logic if aguero can't win one then vardy is better or what? The person you quoted said Hazard was the best in the league more than once, you had to lie that Lampard never won the award once, to defend what's not defensible. Your next move was to name one player who peaked late in his career after working as a factory worker, to rubbish the award. Nice try. Oga, stop making lot of noise, let KDB win it once, then we can bring him close to his bosses, that had bossed the league more than once. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 6:41pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Kimbeast: You serious? Scholes never won one. Lampard never won one. Aguero hasn't won one.That's an incredibly superficial way of assessing the better player by using silly awards my man. Are you sure of what you just typed? Don't let me think you just started supporting Chelsea after we won UCL. KDB is not on Hazard and Lampard level please. Let KDB be the best in the league for just one season like them first. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Offical Bayern Munich Fan Thread: 6x Champions Of Europe by airmark(m): 6:06pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Arjen Robben on the best coach he worked with: "That's difficult, I've seen many good things with many coaches and we've been very successful. But if you ask me who was the best, I say Pep Guardiola. I enjoyed it most with him. Footballing wise, he's just brilliant"
Robben: "When Pep came, I was already 30 years old. You're just trying to stay consistent and not get any worse. But under him I got better again. I suddenly played in different positions, where I never thought that I would play. He was the best."  A40: Your Pep Fraudiola took us from defending Champions to disgrace. Which we haven't fully recovered from. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 5:30pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Ibime: According to your pic, he deserved 7 assists not 4
While DeBruyne deserved 13 assists not 16
DeBruyne is still double his deserved assist for that season which still comes back to what we told you about big chances. DeBruyne creates TWICE as many chances as Hazard during their time in EPL due to his superior vision.
Just because a poor man deserve to be a millionaire doesn't mean he should compare himself to Bill Gates Which was Hazard's poorest season. This is just a factor, out of others that limited his outputs. Imagine playing under a coach who won't bench his winger because he is not marking inside the box like Lukaku? Imagine him in a team like City enjoying the luxury that KDB enjoys at the end of his assists. That's why i respect you for the post below Ibime: Hazard will leave this club
Imagine playing with Bakayoko, Zappacosta, new signings that are totally demoralising like Drinkbleach, Barkley, signing likes of Palmieri just returning from ACL, buying 32 year old Dzeko, bidding for Carroll etc.
If I'm Hazard, thunder will fire my father if I don't leave this useless club. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 5:13pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Ibime: His last stat showed his XA is much higher than his assist which means teammates are missing chances he created. Which applies to Hazard. Sorry to ask you, what does Debruyne having more Assists than XA mean? The image greatihex posted below, shows that Man city players weren't as wasteful as Chelsea's, which has been one of the reasons Hazard didn't get more assists that he deserved. Even Firminho with lower XA had more assists than Hazard and more assists than his XA like De bruyne and Sterling.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 4:56pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Greatihex: as in ehh!!
i even saw drogba somewhere in his post.
nna e, raumdeuter is a bad influence o. I don't know lordfalcao's major problem. Won't be surprised if he has auditory problem too. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 4:54pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
eph12: You sef shock abi? I can imagine all the belloti and Krywochoke in one team with airmark as coach. Jesus  Players like VVD, koulibaly, Hazard, Kante, Terry, Essien, Messi, Lampard, Ronaldo will cover up for few injured players and out-of-form players in my team. So no shaking. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 4:40pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
lordfalcao: this is why you are not intelligent..
The seasons he had Costa and drogba, how many did he drop Before you reply a post, read previous and subsequent posts. Don't always act like a partially blind man. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 4:31pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
eph12: Even airmark knows that what's happening in Madrid, Spain is a disgrace. I mean they both play the left wing and Perez is bidding over 200m for Neymar. I won't be surprised to see Hazard out of the season on injury if Neymar makes the move to Madrid Where did you get this your info? Edo tribune newspapers?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 4:22pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 4:18pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
Greatihex: what i see is hazard having a mediocre assist number that is not up to what he is supposed to have using his xA number (in a season that was claimed to be one of his most inconsistent and poor season) and i see kdb having a good number of assist that is more what he is supposed to have, using his xA number (in a season claimed to be one of his career best).
now, if kdb had 12... xA in one of his best seasons and hazard had 11..xA in one of his best seasons, can you tell us how 11.. is very inferior to 12..? tell us how kdb is heads and shoulders above hazard in vision and creativity? I was expecting this, you did well.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 4:00pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
popizaino: You make my work easier. You should be a coach Considering that next year. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 3:41pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
nihilistjnr: Mehn FBS too sef na other problem o.
my God He has gone to River Jordan. Let's be patient. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 2:18pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
larride: You are the one that will keep shifting the goal post everytime to defend Hazard.
Firstly, you brought Morata clips to show why Hazard doesn’t have enough assist. When someone else reminded you that Hazard played with Costa and he still had low assist, you shifted to the manager.
Secondly, none of our wingers are on Hazard level, so if those players are what you want to use to compare Hazard then maybe Hazard water has found his level.
Everyone is at fault for Hazard inability to have assist except Hazard himself. I’m sure you will still shift the excuse to the size of the pitch or the color of the ball. If you had followed the convo since yesterday when i asked donjazet some questions, you wouldn't ignorantly say i only blamed Morata for the low number of assists or believed i was shifting post. Hazard had many constraints that he faced at Chelsea and having no clinical striker was one of them. I don't have enough time to list them and every sound mind would ask, why didn't other winger at Chelsea outperform Hazard under those circumstances while at Chelsea? Ibime wasn't stupid. Ibime: Hazard will leave this club
Imagine playing with Bakayoko, Zappacosta, new signings that are totally demoralising like Drinkbleach, Barkley, signing likes of Palmieri just returning from ACL, buying 32 year old Dzeko, bidding for Carroll etc.
If I'm Hazard, thunder will fire my father if I don't leave this useless club. Regarding your team not having any winger at Hazard level, good that you could say the truth when he is no more with us. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 11:46am On Aug 20, 2019*. Modified: 12:08pm On Aug 20, 2019 |
larride: Is there any excuse you have not used to defend Hazard? 
You are dragging Morata when they brought up Costa, you moved to the manager. Was it another manager that was there when Fabregas was supplying double digit assist to same Costa?
It is not even arguement you will win. Learn this and know peace.  I come with facts. We know how Mourinho demanded his wingers to fall deep and how you scummies said it hindered your wingers contributions upfront, so don't go there. Unless you want me to dig your a.sses out. It would have made sense if other wingers were topping Hazard's assists under Mou. He still tried more than all your wingers under Mou. None of your wingers had more than 6 assists. Now to Fabregas, you exposed your technical knowledge of football. Where are his heatmaps? Was Fabregas required to quickly run the length of the pitch like wingers, while switching from attack to defence?. Did he have more options upfront to give assists than Hazard and did conservative approach helped him to pick players upfront? Anyone that knows football and watched Fabregas then, wouldn't ask that question. You are even comparing Fabregas that hardly got pressured to a player your team had to ask one of your players to be following up and down for 90mins. Don't just jump into an argument uninvited, with limited knowledge. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 11:32am On Aug 20, 2019 |
hoopLA: In between diggz's pitiful attempt at trolling, We are going to suffer this season.
Some are asking for Gomes to be our #10. They dont realize there is a queue of incompetent dolts ahead of him led by Mata. We should gotten someone like Fernandes At least he would provide more of a threat.
Now we're stuck with a Lingard whom I dong understand his contribution to the squad.
And that's where I will come for Ole.
He still isn't brave enough to mix things up when things go wrong. His undying devotion to certain folk at the detriment to our performance is going to be his undoing when the fans grow tired of the nostalgia. Any serious manager should by now know the strengths and capabilities of his squad members. Daniel James is just raw talent. Not sure he's ready yet for a run in the 1st 11.I see no reason why he started ahead of Pereira.
Sad that we threw 2 points away. But it might not be too bad given that Molineux has been a torrid place to go to even under Fergie Who do you think you are? Mumu.  You want to come for Ole, to take over the wheels like.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 11:18am On Aug 20, 2019 |
Melvyn11: He had Diego Costa and was dropping 7 assist in 2 seasons. Your morata propaganda is dead on arrival. Never knew it was two seasons Costa spent at Chelsea, under conservative coaches. Mumu. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 10:49am On Aug 20, 2019 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 9:55am On Aug 20, 2019 |
DeadPresidents: I swear Lingard is the most useless number 10 in the premier league. I've never seen a 10 who can't pass through lines cleanly. And they said Bruno Fernandes was not great at passing?
I mean Lingard makes Pascal Groß of Brighton & Hove Albion look like De Bruyne in comparison.
This one don pass community slot oo. People say Lingard is inconsistent. I disagree. He's consistent—consistently shite. This should be delivered to afrodoc2 by either eph12 or oasis007. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 12:50am On Aug 20, 2019 |
BikeMan: Pogba na activist wey dem jail?   Pogba el zakzaky. odizeey: I don't even expect much from them this season. Negtive fc. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 12:29am On Aug 20, 2019 |
Melvyn11: Uncle I said 20assist don't know where you saw 30 and he has maintained that ratio. He was 2 assist from equalling Henry record in England few seasons back. Put morata with Kdb and he will reach double digit in assist unlike hazard who was dropping 7 assist in two seasons playing with costa Even Morata will be like, who be this one wey wan put me under plenty pressure to convert chances?  |