₦airaland Forum

RodgersAkpafu:
What's your point really

Maybe you should reread my post to grasp the crux of my comment. Since the Op is feeling conflicted about emigrating to Germany on account of the economic status (either real or imagined) of others that are either there presently or once lived there, then maybe he needs to reevaluate his purpose for going abroad, lest he ends up disappointed.

The best that any foreign country can offer an immigrant are better economic opportunities. But even with that, such countries are bound to present their own unique challenges. Therefore, intended immigrants should 'shine their eyes' and manage their expectations so that they don't end up disappointed. Comprende??

@OBUKOMENA: No country is a bed of roses. Every country has citizens that feel their government can do better. They have opposition politicians that feel the government in power is a disaster. Some citizens only see gloom and doom while others feel they'll rather keep pushing till things get better for them (you may not realize this until you actually travel out). Believe it or not, there are some foreigners in Nigeria who feel they're better off here than in their own country. Immigration is not a new phenomenon, it is as old as time itself. And it may not always be the solution to all the problems of the immigrants. It is what it is.

989900:
I'll rather prefer Fashọla than anyone else in the country -- if Nigeria were a fortune 500 company, he'd probably be their number 1 candidate. I've written about this many times on Nairaland (probably, you're new here).

That said, for what it is, it should be the turn for someone from the southeast region of this country -- are we saying no one from the millions of educated folks from the southeast is fit to be president?

If you want another President from the Southwest, then the Northerners are right to insist on another 8 years.

You are free to prefer anyone you so wish, nothing wrong with that. Perhaps you should have dedicated your thread to promoting Fashola or whoever else you prefer, and why you feel they'll make good presidents. This habit of devoting increasing number of threads to Tinubu's supposed ambition is making his emergence seem inevitable.

Op, after all your anti-Tinubu rant, you still didn't tell us who you would prefer as your president. Last time I checked, Tinubu has not stopped anyone from contesting, heck he hasn't even declared his interest, yet you people are developing epilepsy on top his matter. Na wah! In a democracy anyone is free to contest. Stop this obsession with Tinubu and rather promote your own preferred candidate.

Op, this is good. Keep it up. It's about time igbos start to push their own preferred candidates rather than always sounding bitter when they see others from other regions pushing theirs.

Trimjos:
Same way a particular politician in this country threatened that baboons and dogs will soak in blood. We know the number of people and corpers killed after that statement

You are right. Both Buhari and Kanu have blood on their hands. Unfortunately, one (Buhari) is a politician and Fulani so he'll probably not be made to account for the consequences of his past inciting comments that have led to many deaths and destruction.

nku5:
So are you saying that the people that burnt Oba of Lagoon's palace are Yoruba ipob members? This your post no balance

Not exactly. What I am saying is that Nnamdi Kanu made an inciting broadcast that some people eventually acted on. Whether those perpetrators are ipob members or Yorubas is an entirely different matter.

Advocate500:
even after reading the truth you want to continue to bank on your illusion .

You people like living in denial, that's why this agitation of yours has a question mark. I repeat, Nnmadi Kanu is on record for inciting his supporters to destroy Lagos infrastructures and attack yoruba politicians. So much so that Ohanaeze had to do a press release to distance themselves from his utterances.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2020/10/endsars-ohanaeze-ndigbo-disown-nnamdi-kanu-on-destruction-of-yoruba-assets/amp/

The audio was widely available right after the EndSars wahala and was even posted here on Nairaland (it hit frontpage too).

https://www.nairaland.com/6199177/audio-nnamdi-kanu-instruct-people

I have the transcripts of what he said in that audio below. Even he cannot deny it in court.

Transcripts:

At the 50sec time stamp, he said:
“Anywhere you see Sanwoolu, you attack him. Tinubu hotel must be burnt down, mad people everywhere”

—At the 2:30min time stamp, a caller called claiming he is in Ikeja and and spoke about End SARS protest generally but he said something further. Check from time 3:20 stamp:

-Caller: Now it’s not even about the EndSARS, what they are saying today is that Tinubu must go, that’s what they are saying. Even the Yorubas.

- Nnamdi Kanu: Tinubu is in trouble, Tinubu is in very trouble and I’m telling you the truth. That man is gone, Anywhere Tinubu runs today, if he likes let him run to England, we are going to find him. He’s going to perish.

He’s a politician, he’s a leader, he’s our leader (Here mocking the Yorubas statement), I say shut you dirty, stinking, useless zoo mouth. You’re an idiot, I told you that all these umuokoko you called are charlatans. They have nothing to offer.

Now let me tell you, let me make it abundantly clear, nobody should go for visa. Every access road to every embassy must be blocked. Nobody is flying out, I want Lagos airport to be grounded, no flight coming in and none coming out.

Seems Aljazeera have finally carried the Lekki massacre. We want them to bring their van with their satellite dish on Lekki, we want them to bring it on Aba (Then he quickly changed mouth) and said let them not come to Aba until we finish what we are doing.

Let them rather go to Lekki and mount their satalite dish and be telling the whole world live from the protest venue. Let them not say errm there was a protest between anti-government protesters and only 4 people die and many were injured, the government say they will investigate, rubbish (simply meaning he want more bigger casualties). We want them to bring their van, infact if you see any BBC journalist, hold them until they bring their van and start transmitting it live, mad people. If you don’t behave like mad people in the zoo, you are not going to succeed.

This revolution will not work, you have to have the mentality of a mad man

Bump

Did Mazi Nnamdi Kanu make an inciting broadcast instructing his listeners to destroy Lagos infrastructures and target specific Yoruba personalities or not? That's the real question. He did! And it's on record. He cannot deny that. That's the real criminal charge against him in this instance, not the ethnic background of the mob that went on rampage. Ipob members definitely participated in the overall carnage that befell Lagos during endsars.

There's absolutely no evidence to support the allegation that Ighoho is a terrorist. Absolutely none. But as for Kanu, his utterances and actions shows he is undoubtedly a terrorist.

RZArecta:
you APC zombies are irredeemable. Was it Ipob that used BRT buses to transport thugs that attacked protesters ? Was it IPOB that stormed the Oba's palace and stole a coffin of money, his shoes and staff of office ? Was it IPOB that looted all the foodstuff in the Oba's palace ? If you really believe that nonsense you wrote up there then shame on you for allowing Igbo hoodlums to storm your king's palace, destroy the place and escape successfully. Shame on you for allowing minority strangers to mess you up like a little kid. It's sad your masters pay you not to use your head and you gladly accepted their offer. Have a lovely weekend sir

You're ranting just like your dilector. And it's that sort of behavior that got him where he is presently. Perhaps if he had learned to control his utterances he wouldn't be where he is today. Your opinion and feelings don't mean nada. Nnamdi Kanu will have his day in court and the voice recordings of his inciting instructions would be admitted as evidence, then it'll be left to the judge to decide. As for you, you're just another uncouth and emotional duped ipob ediot.

The fact that Nnamdi Kanu incited his ipob fanatics to destroy Lagos and target certain yoruba politicians and their assets is not in question, even he can't deny that because there are clear evidences to prove that. Whether or not his supporters are amongst the mob that eventually carried out those instructions is an entirely different matter.

It's a drastic tactic to employ to get back borrowed money, but then again many Nigerians don't intend to pay back money they borrowed. Na those loan app people fit their kind.

Will that stop ibos from hating him? I doubt it. They are not worth the gesture.

Why are these people wicked like this

@heendrix: Guy, I feel your pain. But shyt happens. If you can't be with her, trust me when I say there are many fishes in the ocean. Don't sweat it bro, in case things don't work out between you and her.

richmond500:
I believe she has settled everyone that needs to be settled

True. E mean say somebody dey bankroll her be dat. Someone buxed up.

Na toto power. No 'hancup' or prison cloth. E fit be say she don dey service one oga for prison. Somebody may be bankrolling her. She still dey fresh.

Baba don buy market. I think they're just trying to set an example with him. They may end up releasing him, but not without first stressing the hell out of him.

Brazil has a lot developed cities like this one. Maybe because they're not English speaking that's why many don't know about their cities.

Where is the lie in what he said? Umahi the table shaker. Ipobs no go eat or sleep dis night upon hearing this news.

treesun:
You will not tell me about Eko Atlantic sir, I have the Blue print!

Then you're either just being mischievous in your arguments, or you're just one that likes arguing blindly. In any case, good luck.

treesun:
I know what I am saying sir, When Fashola brought GEJ to commission it and fenced out Kuramo beach on Ahamadu Bello, my office used to be around Adetokunbo those days, in the evening we used to go to the beach, But some cartel condone off everything. I have entered the Eko Atlantic severally, see the bridges and roads and yet they collect our taxes without doing anything, I am only fighting for the down troddens, by God's grace I am BLESSED!

I think you are mistaken bro. The Eko Atlantic project is an essentially private project while Lagos State government is merely a strategic partner that ensures that the private funders of the project are keeping to their mandate. It's similar to how a private investor can buy land from government, develops the land to his taste (infrastructure inclusive) and then starts selling plots of land to other interested private individuals.

It won't be the first privately funded project that would be targeted at the rich. Banana Island and some other exclusive areas are already like that. But the thing is, even as we speak, people are already living in some of the apartments in the few skyscrapers that are already there. You don't even need to be rich to even enter the place sef. I consider myself average, yet I have taken my wife on a dinner date more than once at one of the restaurants located within one of the the Eko Pearl Towers. And to our surprise they don't even ask much questions before allowing guests to go into Eko Atlantic. Also, to my surprise, many people are already living on different floors of the skyscrapers, both foreigners and locals alike.

The downtrodden you claim to be fighting for need to first of all rise out of poverty before thinking of living in Eko Atlantic. It's not a must that anyone lives in Eko Atlantic. Lekki dey there, Ikoyi sef dey, Magodo dey. etc.

treesun:
Most poor are hardworking than the rich only that their opportunities are limited. It is only someone whose palm tree survives that is a good farmer.

Change that mentality bro, for it will not take you anywhere. Like I said, often times poverty boils down to choices, ignorance, and environmental factors Wrong choices and ignorance can be cured through exposure to better education. In this Internet age, most valuable knowledge out there can be obtained for free. E.g, there are many I.T experts that taught themselves I.T skills they learned online via their phone, all it demands is the discipline and will power. Young lads are making millions legitimately from editing comedy skits that make us laugh. Etc.

Through education a farmer can learn or device innovative means to improve his crop yield, because nothing you are experiencing in life is peculiar to you alone; others have also passed through and overcame.

Environment can also be a factor in the sense that if you only surround yourself with poor people that prefer to wallow in self pity in their condition, you will never rise above that condition. Rather you should look to ambitious people to motivate you to do better. Nobody owes you jack sheet. But you owe it to yourself to be a better version of you. Selah.

treesun:
Not in a society that steal from the poor to make criminals rich. If there is a form of level playing ground only 10% will complain.

Nobody is stealing from any poor people because most poor people aren't even productive to start with, hence their condition. So what's there to steal from them? Infact, most poor people put themselves in that position due to their own poor life choices. Every country in the world has them in varying numbers.

They also need to stop giving their small money to pastors in the form of tithes and offerings, that way they will have more to spend on themselves to beat poverty. I repeat, nobody owes a poor man anything in life. Rather, he owes it to himself to improve his own lot. Capish.

Rexwalters1:
Go & acquire your own property & collect rent money, stop waiting for free beer & fish pepper soup from your friends.

Thanks but that advice is coming rather late. I am both a landlord and landowner with several acres of landed properties, located in Lagos and other SW states. I fit sell land for you sef if you want.

See, that's the thing about us here in the SW. Land ownership is not a problem for the average yoruba man, because God has so blessed us with more than enough landmass. It's the reason why we are also very open to selling land to foreigners like yourself, because e too yakpa. Unlike una wey dey kee unasef over land matter. The small one wey una get sef erosion don render am useless. It must be really tough being ibo in this life. Problem no dey finish for una. I feel your pain bro.

Rexwalters1:
It is our own? Go & join them & be sharing money in Alausa even Joe Ibokwe is seeing something, not to be arguing here claiming our property, show us your own you paid with your own money? will The Tejuoshos, MC Oloumo & co allow you see any chop in Eko? I believe You get your satisfaction by yapping on the Internet?

As you dey try reach you still fail abysmally to hide your tears over this news. It's ok, we understand. Don't worry, we know the present ipob-induced happenings in iboland are enough to make you ibo people jealous and envious of this yet another positive development in the SW corridor while your own ibo states struggle to surpass/outdo each other in bloodletting activities. But be rest assured that you will always be welcome to stay and seek refuge in our peace-loving region, as long as you eschew every IPOBic/terroristic tendency. I hope you can now stop crying.

Seems India is the latest development headquarters for dem.

treesun:
A city the poor can not afford.

Don't worry. It might just motivate some ambitious poor persons to rise above their situation and make something tangible of themselves. The world doesn't owe anybody anything. If you are poor, you have two options; either upgrade yourself to beat poverty for the sake of your future generations, or you do nothing about it and remain poor.

nairalandankrah:
According to fella,(God bless his soul), zombiesm is an incurable disease..So, No amount of digging up or evidence I post here on tinubu, will be able to cure you..
You're a lost soul already, add blindness to it.. Can't waste my time on you! Sorry!

I think you are better off sticking to your Biafra agitation than trying to sound smart by dabbling into subject matters that are beyond your iq capabilities. You expose your mental deficiencies and limitations with each attempt to contribute to any non-Biafra related discourse. Or perhaps it could also be that the agitation has actually made you dumber/dull as an individual. Just saying.