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EducationRe: Father Christmas In A Primary School In Ogun State (pix) by akdjr(m): 12:09pm On Dec 13, 2018
This one na clone father Christmas from Afghanistan.
PoliticsRe: Don’t Create Tension Between Yoruba, Igbo In Lagos, Sanwo-olu Warns Agbaje by akdjr(m): 10:54am On Dec 13, 2018
Jimi should be researching how to come up with drugs that can cure HIV/AIDS within 2 days as a pharmacist so that guys can Fiaku F-F without fear or using CDQ
BusinessRe: Top 10 Famous Markets In Nigeria And What They Are Famous For by akdjr(m): 10:49am On Dec 13, 2018
I remember visiting Ariaria market when i went for my cousins introduction who married a lady from Abia, that was the day I concluded that Nigeria is a country without regards to potentials, comparative advantage because of tribal hatred, religious intolerance, political division etc. Chinese who has taking over the world economy in production are not in anyway better than those guys in Ariaria market. I saw amazing production at its peak that faithful day! Sadly, a bill has just been passed for southeast development commission which will be filled by people without exploitation ideas but rather how to come and build borehole for the community.#Therewasacountry
TravelRe: My Visit To The Groove Of Oranmiyan Staff... Ile-Ife(with pictures) by akdjr(m): 10:23am On Dec 13, 2018
The first dynasty of the Edo or Benin Kingdom was the Ogi-Suo or Ogiso dynasty. The second 'Oba' dynasty was founded by Oranyan (also known as Oranmiyan), a prince from the Yoruba Kingdom of Ife in modern-day Nigeria. His son Eweka I became the first Oba. The present Oba, Erediauwa I, is the 39th Oba of the dynasty.



One oral tradition states that during the reign the last Ogiso, his son and heir apparent Ekaladerhan was banished from Benin as a result of one of the Queens changing a message from the oracle to the Ogiso. Prince Ekaladerhan was a powerful warrior and well loved. On leaving Benin he travelled in a westerly direction to the land of the Yoruba. At that time the Ifá oracle said that the Yoruba people of Ile Ife (also known as Ife) will be ruled by a man who would come out of the forest. Following Ekaladerhans arrival at the Yoruba city of Ife also known as Ile Ife, he finally rose to the position of the Oba (meaning "king" or "ruler" Yoruba) and later received the title of Ooni of Ife.



He changed his name to 'Izoduwa', (which in his native language Edo language means, "I have chosen the path of prosperity"wink. The name Izoduwa has been corrupted to Oduduwa, also known as Odudua, Oòdua and Eleduwa, of the Yoruba. On the death of his father, the last Ogiso, a group of Benin Chiefs led by Chief Oliha came to Ife, pleading with Oba (King) Oduduwa to return to Benin to ascend the throne. Oduduwa's reply was that a ruler cannot leave his domain but he had seven sons and would ask one of them to go back to Benin to become the next King.



Oranyan (also known as Oranmiyan), one of the sons of Oduduwa and son of Oduduwa's Yoruba wife Okanbi, agreed to go to Benin. He spent some years in Benin before returning Yoruba land before establishing a Yoruba kingdom at Oyo. It is said that he left the place in anger and called it 'Ile Ibinu' (meaning, 'land of annoyance and veexation)and it was this phrase that that became the origin of Benin city's former name 'Ubini'. Oranmiyan, on his way home to Ife, stopped briefly at Ego, where he pregnated Princess Erimwinde, the daughter of the Enogie of Ego and she gave birth to a son named Eweka.



During Oba Oramiyan reign as Alaafin of Oyo, Eweka became the oba at Ile Ibinu. Oba Ewedo, an ancestor of Oba Ewaka I, changed the name of the city of Ile Ibinu to Ubini, which the Portuguese, in their own language, corrupted it to Benin or Bini. In 1440, Oba Ewuare[1], also known as 'Ewuare the Great', came to power and turned the city-state into an empire. Around 1470, he named the new state Edo.



During the 14th and 15th centuries, the Oba of Benin's power was at its peak and different monarchs of the dynasty controlled significant stretches of land in Africa. During this era, exquisite naturalistic bronze art was created to enhance and embody the power of the Oba. The art often depicted the ancestors in order to establish legitimacy. Formally, only Obas of Benin were allowed to own the famous bronze heads of Benin.

TAO11:
Could you please cite me just one source (even by the Binis themselves) prior to 1978 which contains (in any way, shape, or form) this idea that a certain Bini 'kaladerhan, Imadoduwa, or Izoduwa, etc. is one and the same person as the Yorubas' Oduduwa?

You won't find any, and the reason is almost very obvious. The reason you won't find any such account anywhere (even among the Binis) prior to 1978 is simply because this very idea by the Binis emerged for the first time ever during the 1978-9 coronation of Omo N'Oba Erediauwa. 

[Refer to Archaeology and Language I: Theoretical and Methodological Orientations edited by Roger Blench, Matthew Springs wherein Eboreime 1985 was cited].

This source further notes that "by 1992 another version (of the idea) had taken precedence", citing the then Oba of Benin as quoted in Eweka 1992:2

In fact, this idea was published for the first time ever in 1995 by D. Nabuleleorogie Oronsaye and later popularized by Nowamagbe Omoigui.

The most you will find about 'kaladerhan in any Bini source prior to 1978 is that he left Igodomigodo and founded Ughoton where he lived and died.

The later twist by the Binis from 1978 onwards (and which is today being spread vigorously by Benin e-warriors) does not gel with the history always known to the Binis from time immemorial.

This later account which emerged for the first time in 1978 is an obvious attempt by the then new oba and his allies to help the modern Bini person heave some sigh of relief from the "embarrassment" they feel from their own very wide spread tradition which tells them that a man from another country became their first oba and that the Binis' present polity owes too much to this man and his country Ife.
TravelRe: My Visit To The Groove Of Oranmiyan Staff... Ile-Ife(with pictures) by akdjr(m): 10:14am On Dec 13, 2018
the first dynasty of the Edo or Benin Kingdom was the Ogi-Suo or Ogiso dynasty. The second 'Oba' dynasty was founded by Oranyan (also known as Oranmiyan), a prince from the Yoruba Kingdom of Ife in modern-day Nigeria. His son Eweka I became the first Oba. The present Oba, Erediauwa I, is the 39th Oba of the dynasty.



One oral tradition states that during the reign the last Ogiso, his son and heir apparent Ekaladerhan was banished from Benin as a result of one of the Queens changing a message from the oracle to the Ogiso. Prince Ekaladerhan was a powerful warrior and well loved. On leaving Benin he travelled in a westerly direction to the land of the Yoruba. At that time the Ifá oracle said that the Yoruba people of Ile Ife (also known as Ife) will be ruled by a man who would come out of the forest. Following Ekaladerhans arrival at the Yoruba city of Ife also known as Ile Ife, he finally rose to the position of the Oba (meaning "king" or "ruler" Yoruba) and later received the title of Ooni of Ife.



He changed his name to 'Izoduwa', (which in his native language Edo language means, "I have chosen the path of prosperity"wink. The name Izoduwa has been corrupted to Oduduwa, also known as Odudua, Oòdua and Eleduwa, of the Yoruba. On the death of his father, the last Ogiso, a group of Benin Chiefs led by Chief Oliha came to Ife, pleading with Oba (King) Oduduwa to return to Benin to ascend the throne. Oduduwa's reply was that a ruler cannot leave his domain but he had seven sons and would ask one of them to go back to Benin to become the next King.



Oranyan (also known as Oranmiyan), one of the sons of Oduduwa and son of Oduduwa's Yoruba wife Okanbi, agreed to go to Benin. He spent some years in Benin before returning Yoruba land before establishing a Yoruba kingdom at Oyo. It is said that he left the place in anger and called it 'Ile Ibinu' (meaning, 'land of annoyance and veexation)and it was this phrase that that became the origin of Benin city's former name 'Ubini'. Oranmiyan, on his way home to Ife, stopped briefly at Ego, where he pregnated Princess Erimwinde, the daughter of the Enogie of Ego and she gave birth to a son named Eweka.



During Oba Oramiyan reign as Alaafin of Oyo, Eweka became the oba at Ile Ibinu. Oba Ewedo, an ancestor of Oba Ewaka I, changed the name of the city of Ile Ibinu to Ubini, which the Portuguese, in their own language, corrupted it to Benin or Bini. In 1440, Oba Ewuare[1], also known as 'Ewuare the Great', came to power and turned the city-state into an empire. Around 1470, he named the new state Edo.



During the 14th and 15th centuries, the Oba of Benin's power was at its peak and different monarchs of the dynasty controlled significant stretches of land in Africa. During this era, exquisite naturalistic bronze art was created to enhance and embody the power of the Oba. The art often depicted the ancestors in order to establish legitimacy. Formally, only Obas of Benin were allowed to own the famous bronze heads of Benin.

[ quote author=TAO11 post=73786034]


Could you please cite me just one source (even by the Binis themselves) prior to 1978 which contains (in any way, shape, or form) this idea that a certain Bini 'kaladerhan, Imadoduwa, or Izoduwa, etc. is one and the same person as the Yorubas' Oduduwa?

You won't find any, and the reason is almost very obvious. The reason you won't find any such account anywhere (even among the Binis) prior to 1978 is simply because this very idea by the Binis emerged for the first time ever during the 1978-9 coronation of Omo N'Oba Erediauwa. 

[Refer to Archaeology and Language I: Theoretical and Methodological Orientations edited by Roger Blench, Matthew Springs wherein Eboreime 1985 was cited].

This source further notes that "by 1992 another version (of the idea) had taken precedence", citing the then Oba of Benin as quoted in Eweka 1992:2

In fact, this idea was published for the first time ever in 1995 by D. Nabuleleorogie Oronsaye and later popularized by Nowamagbe Omoigui.

The most you will find about 'kaladerhan in any Bini source prior to 1978 is that he left Igodomigodo and founded Ughoton where he lived and died.

The later twist by the Binis from 1978 onwards (and which is today being spread vigorously by Benin e-warriors) does not gel with the history always known to the Binis from time immemorial.

This later account which emerged for the first time in 1978 is an obvious attempt by the then new oba and his allies to help the modern Bini person heave some sigh of relief from the "embarrassment" they feel from their own very wide spread tradition which tells them that a man from another country became their first oba and that the Binis' present polity owes too much to this man and his country Ife.[/quote]
PoliticsRe: Jimi Agbaje: Why I Lost In 2011, 2015 Elections by akdjr(m): 7:37am On Dec 13, 2018
Waiting for fresh reasons why he lost again after 2019 election.
PoliticsRe: Uche Secondus: More Nigerians Killed Under Apc’s Watch Than Civil War by akdjr(m): 7:34am On Dec 13, 2018
So you means millions of Igbos that were killed during civil war is a far cry to the number of people killed since 2015? If PDP greet u Good morning abeg check ur time! The most painful aspect of PDP being in an opposition for the first time since the country return to democracy is that they lack constructive criticism and convincing campaign ideas. I have ask some of their party faithfuls if there are still "Think Tank" group in PDP? But unfortunately none could even point at one. PDP need to consult Iyasele spirit for direction.
TravelRe: My Visit To The Groove Of Oranmiyan Staff... Ile-Ife(with pictures) by akdjr(m): 3:47pm On Dec 12, 2018
Obviously you are not ready to know the truth so let me let u be.quote author=0balufonlll post=73777533]

You will educate me more personally? grin
You need to take several seats with these BS stories.
Izoduwa is different from Oduduwa. Oduduwa had/has a real name and Oduduwa is just a name used to refer to him. Google idio or go to Facebook and search Obadio - he the head of Oduduwa's family. Abi did your Izoduwa come to Ife with a family?[/quote]
PoliticsRe: “Underwear Bomber” Abdulmuttalab Remorseful — Father by akdjr(m): 3:46pm On Dec 12, 2018
Read it over again or go and search for his statement when his son was arrested. [
Kclique:
Is there any part of this very story that includs that he reported his son attitude to the US and the Nig.Govt?
Or you are bringing another story in here to do over sabi. That he did that is not reported expressly in this very thread. That was in the past.
In any case, how did his son begin to exhibit extremist tendencies.

"If parents were not careless over the manners of their children at home, they will seldom be shocked about their behaviour abroad" Sydney Bremer
Don't train your children well, later on look for who to blame.
TravelRe: My Visit To The Groove Of Oranmiyan Staff... Ile-Ife(with pictures) by akdjr(m): 11:22am On Dec 12, 2018
Izoduwa and not Ododuwa
as always claim by the Yoruba was an exile prince from Benin palace who avoid being sacrifice and later settled down in the present Ile Ife.( if you want to know how "Ile Ife" was named by the same Oduduwa, that will be another topic). He didn't disclose his true identity to the people he met for security purpose. If you want to know how his son was made king in Benin Kingdom i will educate you more personally so that you will stop being a victim under the tutelage of false historical believe.
0balufonlll:
Olugbo of Ugbo is now a Historian? You must be an illiterate my guy.

Oduduwa - Odu to da iwa (the vessel that created existence).

Oranmiyan - Oran ni omo yi yan (this child chose to be problematic or my matters are non-complicated).

Now, I will ask you to tell us what Omonanyan and Ekhalederhan means and if they appear in Ifa, we can start from there. grin cheesy.
PoliticsRe: Abdulsalami Abubakar Counters Atiku, You Were Invited by akdjr(m): 11:05am On Dec 12, 2018
US actually sent some delegates to monitor the event and Atiku think some FBI might be on ground to make funny moves.
CelebritiesRe: Jaywon Reacts To Accusations Of Stealing Song Titles by akdjr(m): 11:00am On Dec 12, 2018
I suspect this is a staged accusation to make Jawon make headlines on media
PoliticsRe: Electoral Act: Dogara, Gbajabiamila Stop Debate On Buhari’s Letter by akdjr(m): 10:56am On Dec 12, 2018
Always read before making comment.
success1smyn:
the president is afraid most Nigerians are not with him so he wants to get those stupendous figures (from kano, katsina and kaduna) by hook or by crook.

any which way my advice is this

fix the road to daura and let it be in good shape come 2019 (obasanjo going back to ota in 2007 comes to mind)
TravelRe: My Visit To The Groove Of Oranmiyan Staff... Ile-Ife(with pictures) by akdjr(m): 10:51am On Dec 12, 2018
And the God of Fashola, Obi, Yuguda, Osaze Abogumoza is also the God of the universe. quote author=marttol post=73774768]you know the funny thing about the carnal man is that they know nothing about spiritual things... The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is still the God of the Universe... Leave them alone, ignorance is no excuse.[/quote]
TravelRe: My Visit To The Groove Of Oranmiyan Staff... Ile-Ife(with pictures) by akdjr(m): 10:48am On Dec 12, 2018
Make u de dia de twist history because u want to claim false dominion over other kingdom. A Yoruba historian The Olugbo of Ugbo, Oba Frederick Akinruntan once charged academic historians to research pre-Oduduwa arrival at Ile Ife to end the controversy about the source of Yoruba as a people. What is the meaning of Oduduwa and Oranmiya in Yoruba language?
PoliticsRe: Breaking: Atiku Missing As Buhari Arrives Peace Pact Venue by akdjr(m): 4:52pm On Dec 11, 2018
But he signed same with Jonathan in 2015.
hisgrace090:
Debate before peace pact is the way.


He's now rushing to signed peace pact to tie others down before perfecting his rigging planes, its a lie.
FamilyRe: Alhaji Yakubu Nasfi Wedding To Underage Girl In Niger State. Photos & Reactions by akdjr(m): 4:50pm On Dec 11, 2018
Lawless country
PoliticsRe: PDP Looted Our Destiny, Prospects, Jobs – Fashola by akdjr(m): 4:06pm On Dec 11, 2018
We already know that..... Make una do take us to the next level before Osibanjo take over
PoliticsRe: With Atiku, PDP Has Disqualified Itself From 2019 Presidential Race –Issa-Onilu by akdjr(m): 4:04pm On Dec 11, 2018
If were an accountant you will understand better how asset diminish over time.
obaataaokpaewu:
Before he was a good man grin
PoliticsRe: Jimi Agbaje Vows To Turn Lagos Waters To Money by akdjr(m): 4:00pm On Dec 11, 2018
Make him start fishing inside the water na.
PoliticsRe: Vote Buying A Threat To Nigeria’s Democracy- Saraki, Dogara by akdjr(m): 3:57pm On Dec 11, 2018
I would be surprise if any Nigerians will come out to defend these people.
CelebritiesRe: Pretty Mike Lists Names Of Celebrities In Nigeria Who Have Done Plastic Surgery by akdjr(m): 3:51pm On Dec 11, 2018
Although I am not a fan of plastic surgery cox I thank God my wife was moderately endowed as I want my woman to be. But I don't see anything wrong if someone who has just one life to live choose to live it the way he/she want it whether he/she regret it later or not is none of anyone business.
PoliticsRe: “Underwear Bomber” Abdulmuttalab Remorseful — Father by akdjr(m): 3:41pm On Dec 11, 2018
How would you blame an innocent father who notice his son extremist attitude and report same to both US and Nigeria authority to put him on a watchlist? Always try to read full story before making judgement.
Kclique:
Islam, religion of peace.
As for you, Mr. father, I blame you.

Parents, realise the enormous task of raising your children. Proper upbringing of today's kids is the rescue of our tomorrow.

Parents, I beg of you, child-training is not a tea party.
Today's kids are the way they are because yesterday's parents raised them the way they did.
PoliticsRe: Buhari's EFCC Nominees: Senate In Rowdy Session by akdjr(m): 3:27pm On Dec 11, 2018
If he had appointed people from south East they will still say if he like handed over power to them they won't vote for Buhari. Nigeria second class citizens at it again.
PoliticsRe: Ogun PDP Crisis Worsens As Two Governorship Candidates Launch Separate Campaigns by akdjr(m): 3:19pm On Dec 11, 2018
Igbos massively killed by hausa/fulani soldiers #Igbos are the most recognize fools. [quote author=Wahala90 post=73751289][/quote]
PoliticsRe: Bolaji Abdullahi: Why The Man In Aso Rock Is Not Buhari by akdjr(m): 8:37am On Dec 11, 2018
Because you and ur master no get juicy cut from this government una begin de talk rubbish same with when GEJ administration was hijacked by the Easterners una run leave am go form alliance with PMB.
CelebritiesRe: Top 8 Most Handsome Men In The World (2018) by akdjr(m): 8:24pm On Dec 10, 2018
Where is Ramsey Noah, 2baba, Dare art Alade, RMD, Desmond Elliott to mention but few.
PoliticsRe: Buhari & Joshua Gin Looking At A Rifle Seized From Biafran Soldiers In Awka 1969 by akdjr(m): 11:25am On Dec 09, 2018
Biafra don too suffer for Nigeria hand sha. One of the Soldier who fought the war told me whoever witness the war will not even mention Biafra again. He still has a scar of the bullet wound.
CultureRe: Oluwo Of Iwo Call Out Nigerian Govt To Outlaw Secret Society In Nigeria by akdjr(m): 11:20am On Dec 09, 2018
Calves' Head Club
Committee of 300
Confederacy (British political group)

Gormogons

Hellfire Club

Knights of Seth

National Action (UK)
Nordic League

Order of Chaeronea
Order of Free Gardeners

Right Club

The School of Night
Scotch Cattle

The Horseman's Word

The above are the list of secrete society in great Britain. This man should rather make his research before talking about secrete society. Even Freemasonry is in Britain.
Christianity EtcRe: Second Coming Of Jesus Still Most Likely Between 2030-2040 AD - Don Koenig by akdjr(m): 11:09am On Dec 09, 2018
It is a Jewish tradition that when u eat and leave your hand towel on the table it means you're still coming to continue eating. That's exactly the illusion behind Jesus second coming. He can only reincarnate which I believe he must have, without the knowledge of those waiting for him to walk into the earth again. No human came to this earth without being born of a woman with the aid of sperm from a male counterpart.
PoliticsRe: There’ll Be No Cabal In My Govt. – Atiku by akdjr(m): 9:35pm On Dec 08, 2018
Which Government biko?
PoliticsRe: Dualization Of Lokoja - Benin Road, Section II: Okene - Auchi, Edo State (Pics) by akdjr(m): 8:08pm On Dec 08, 2018
Whenever people talk about rigging, i always wonder if they were in Nigeria during 2003,2007,2011 election.
4kDdullard:
You guys are the ones still dreaming that the imposter will massively rig the election but patriotic Nigerians will defend their votes.

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