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Pharaoh Mentuhotep, 2100 BC
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Pharaoh Tutunkamun 1332 – 1323 BC
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Igboid:
Ijaw word for water is Beni!
That's what is used in Kolokuma and Opokuma.
Only Eastern Ijaws with Igbo influence use Mingi and it's obviously copied from Mini used by Igbos in Ikwerre, Bonny, OPOBO, Ndoki and Etche!

JANK23H:
I know very little about them apart from where they are located.I may have to do some study.

Igboid:
Oru/Olu are the Riverine Igbos who influenced Ijaws.
Aboh is the main town of the Olus/Oru.
Many hitherto Oru-Igbo communities have been Ijawnized.
Biseni is an example.

Igboid:
Asimini minji is more like a tautology.
Minji is Ijaw( those who were influenced by Igbos of Bonny) corrupted version of the Igbo word "Mini".
The original Ijaw word for water is "Beni".
That's what real Izons in Opokuma and Kolokuma use.

Only Ijaws influenced by Igbos from Aboh, Ndoki and Ngwa call water Minji! It's a corruption of Igbo word Mini for water.

Igboid:
The have always been terrorists/pirates terrorising those waters, they were not Aboriginals there.
Even till now, the Ijaws are still terrorising Bonny waters.
It has been a deep source of outcry by Bonny people.

https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-55614847

JANK23H:
I do agree with you,but in science nephilims and angels can not be proven.

The accounts as to the migration from Eygpt did posit that the migration was from the Upper Nile to Lake Chad and through the waters to the Niger Delta.Again there isn't any concrete proof.

Igboid:
Nope.
It's Asi Minni!

Water remains Mini in OPOBO and Bonny, which is Ndoki and Etche dialect way of saying Miri/mili.
Infact, Bonny people call sea water Mini-Nnu. Meaning salt water.

Igboid:
And Baike and Glynn were wrong too?

Even Talbot quoted Captain Crow on the segment about Bonny origin.

SlayerForever:
On what basis did you come to this conclusion?

JANK23H:
Lol...
Porbeni rest.I showed you research work by George T. Basden that mentioned Bonny,you said he didn't ask chiefs and prefer the one from a drunk ship captain.When I presented the one from Captain Pereira,you said he didn't mention Bonny.

Igboid:
Basden mission was never on the origin of Bonny.
Basden never interviewed his so called Bonny chiefs to ask them of their Origin,if he did , perhaps he would have gotten the same history of migration from Igboland through Azumini creeks, like Talbot and Captain and Arthur Glynn and Baike all got!
He was writing on assumptions, just as he assumed that because Ijaws stuck out like aliens they are in the Southern NIGERIA, that they must have been the most Ancient since they don't have history of origin from the North, when a better hypothesis would have been that they were late arrivals who came through the seas to the Niger Delta, at a time the Edoid, Igboids, Ibibiods and Yoruboid had already taken position.

Meanwhile, here is what Talbot said about Bonny.
Of course, he had to requote Captain Crow.

JANK23H:
Of the Ijos Dr. Talbot wrote:

"The population of (Southern Nigeria) is divided into three main groups: Sudanese, Semi-Bantu and Bantu... The Sudanese occupy west and central portions of the country. The most important of their tribes are the Yoruba, Edo-speaking people, the Ijaw, who lived in the Niger Delta, and the Ibo who inhabit the regions between the Niger and the Cross Rivers. . .The most ancient of all are the Ijaws, descendants perhaps of the earliest Negroes who penetrated the West Africa forest"

The linguist Prof. Key Williamson wrote:
". . .Ijoid is highly differentiated from all its neighbors; it is spoken only within the delta. A long period of differentiation from its neighbors must have taken place, and in considerable isolation. It is therefore highly likely that it took place within the Delta. We may assume that the ancestors of the Ijoid moved into Delta at least 7000 years ago and lived in sufficient isolation from their neighbors to develop considerable changes in their own language and remain unaffected by the changes influencing those neighbors"

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SlayerForever:
Here's exactly what he wrote :
From the part of the river nun up till this point Taylor creek, the country on either side is called Oru. The people are of the same tribe of those who inhabit the tract of the country up on to the RIO fermoso where however they are called Ejo or ojo by which name they are known at aboh, brass and Bonny,

This two statements actually show there's a slight distinction between the Oru and the Jos of the Fermosa. Mind you Brass where you come, according to that statement called the people of the Fermosa Ijaw while those in the nun were called Oru. They carefully kept a separate name for the people in the Fermosa which they called Ejo. Can you clearly see the distinction?

That Baikie said "is of the same tribe" is likely due to acculturation. That's why that distinction of Oru and Ejo was an important addition.

JANK23H:
It's jealousy Alabo.They think so highly of themselves that they wouldn't accept that some other ethnicities are/did greater things than they've done.

Similar way whites stole the achievement of some black people, simple because they can't accept that a black man can do anything great.Hence a lot of black history was wiped out and some revised to their favour.

As for your thread,I can't speak authoritatively on our link to ancient Egypt.What I do know is that several European scholars, especially Portuguese and Dutch have described the Ijos as one of the most ancient tribes in Africa.

JANK23H:
Notes on the Ibo country and the Ibo People, Southern Nigeria by George Basden,Pg 243

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mrvitalis:
Oga if u an ijaws and claim oru people are ijaw ,ibaka people are ijaw bla bla bla ..u claim.kalabri is ijaw back it up with DNA analysis

The last one done on okrika people shocked you right ?

Ojiofor:
Did they carry out DNA test on Okrika people,pls what was the result?

SlayerForever:
Read that excerpt from Baikie closely you will observe the statement points to a slight distinction between the Oru and Jos of the Fermosa.

mrvitalis:
Oga I mean in Nigeria this one ijaws wants to claim everyone ...simple DNA sampling can tell us the truth

Igboid:
Nope. The Nubians are a highly organized people capable of great technological and artistic feats.
Ijaws lack these two traits. They were not good in technology ( no metallurgy, construction, etc skills) and arts( no known Ijaw arts), the ones they claim are the Ibibio arts of proto Ibibiod people like Andoni, Ogbia, Abureni, Obulom, and proto Edo people like Udekeme, Engenni and Epie-Attisa.
Funny of you to mention ogbeyan, Andoni, atissai,abureni and the other ijaw clans and still say nonesense.

Don't think ijaws are only opokuma/kolokuma, that was infact the second wave of migration o
The opokuma kolokuma ancestors are infact the last people who migrated, they are even the last borns of ijaw.
Soon I'll make a thread on that one when time permits.
It was even from Agadagba-buo the first and older children of ijo left.
We were first at Benin prior to the foundation of Benin, they knew ijo as uzo(ASK ANY BENI MAN)
The Epie and atissai people intermarried and have blood relation with them and when there was war in Benin, those batch migrated down.
Ijo is even known at old IFE as idekoseroake (a title)

When two ancient empires IFE and Benin writes in their own history about you, then you are known.
The Benins even say ujo and igodo the first ogiso of Igodomigodo were siblings.

This isn't fairy tale, we settled before the foundation of benin... Andoni is off the isedani lineage and were known as andoni-oru.
So brother man, if you don't believe, go and ask the Benins and yorubas and Nupe people.


The real and not Pol

Kolokuma Opokuma homeland, are not known for another productive venture beyond rudimentary fishing.

In conclusion. The Ijaws cannot be Nubians.

mrvitalis:
All this scam no get head ...any day the ijaws are ready then left do DNA analysis of the people in lower Niger ... determine who is who

But they know the truth would be exposed

SlayerForever:
Ijaw keep claiming the word Oru but yet they have no tangible explanation as regards the term Oru.

Let me tell you what I think. I think the Orus were actually Riverine Igbos that were in existence from the beginning of the Igbo race. Oru is more evenly spread and established across Igbo society that in Ijaw society. Oru appears a foreign concept in ijaw origin.

The Oru would be joined by the Ijaw people in a migration much later, and over generations the two became thoroughly mixed. Hence, Ijaw superimposed or more probably eroded the practices of the riverine Oru Igbos they came upon, leaving only the name Oru as survivor from that era, and from then the ijaw we know today continued in existence.

That is my explanation of Oru's awkward existence in Ijaw today.

SlayerForever:
Ijaw keep claiming the word Oru but yet they have no tangible explanation as regards the term Oru.

Let me tell you what I think. I think the Orus were actually Riverine Igbos that were in existence from the beginning of the Igbo race. Oru is more evenly spread and established across Igbo society that in Ijaw society. Oru appears a foreign concept in ijaw origin.
I just showed you baikie's quote.
Infact we have been known as Oru people.
Some say owu.


Now tell me the meaning of Oru in Igbo?

The Oru would be joined by the Ijaw people in a migration much later, and over generations the two became thoroughly mixed. Hence, Ijaw superimposed or more probably eroded the practices of the riverine Oru Igbos they came upon, leaving only the name Oru as survivor from that era, and from then the ijaw we know today continued in existence.

That is my explanation of Oru's awkward existence in Ijaw today.

Igo9:
Ibous that could not even withstood nigeria police at orlu want to wage war against the most powerful ethnicity in the world...Chai, Ijaw don suffer sha..
Imagine powerless ibous.....nawa.. well you can come with your lazy esn ugm, we will only unleashed our women to battle you... because men will be genocidal.

Omanambala:
How can you claim to be an educated individual that was thought principles of research descend to this outrageous level of behavior. Its utterly shameful to see you grasping at straws over a material the Igbo didn't write nor influence in anyway. Why are you people groveling in lies and senseless revisions that can only further hurt you.

If you chose to ignore your realities and keep reveling in these lies you , these lies would be crushed in due time.

Ask yourself this : what can you and your creek dwelling tribe do when we are ready for you....take a look at Ukraine...who will come to your rescue ??

You are acting all recalcitrant because the Igbo was down after the civil war but we have risen again like a phoenix...but where will you hide with your little creek tribe of 500,000 population. You will be consumed, I swear to all mighty GOD!

You are playing with fire !! We will take every inch of land that belongs to us....you think Fulani and Yoruba will come to your rescue ?

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FERNANDEZISBACK:
Your God can't do nothing pls forget about him..where was he when Russia was planning on invading them..
Where was he during WW1..WW2.. Holocaust.. Vietnam war and the rest..
Where was he when kids were dying..he loves violence a lot..
Sit on his throne and watch women get raped.. people slaughtering their fellow being for nothing..and you say there is an imaginary creature..you must be a clown..

bomb24:
Your dumbness has gotten to the zenith. u said okolo means roosting in your sewage rat dialect my memories don't fail me....

perhaps ur penchanct love for blowing hot lies has boxed u in.....

u must really think I'm that dumb not to know the meaning of roosting from a rooster( coc*k )

Now deposit a neutral account to your claims to bonny I will wait zombiefied aminadiokari.

U can as well screenshot any of my post when i reffered to "roosting" as a bird.

Mumu-ribo.