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HealthRe: The Doctor Said She Should Get Married On Time by aletheia(m): 7:40pm On Jun 10, 2011
@OP:
Your girlfriend is not telling you the full story. She's boldly lying to you. Based on what you 've narrated: she most likely has pelvic inflammatory disease. No doctor, I repeat no doctor will tell her to get married as soon as possible because of a "stomach" infection. Rather I am sure the doctor told her that she may have difficulties becoming pregnant in future because of the STD she has. You better shine your eyes, before this woman stampedes you into marriage or premarital sex. There many unfortunate fools who are deceived into marriage by women hiding their history only for the truth to come out when they cannot become pregnant. My advice to you is to end this relationship.

emans:
d fluiid in d pouch of douglas cannot be cured with intercourse, mayb d doctor advised her to get married to stop sleepin around, virgin indeed
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Agree 100% with this.
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel According To Joagbaje by aletheia(m): 3:50pm On Jun 10, 2011
Joagbaje:
Here comes our lying doctor, where did I make such statement?
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In diverse places and in diverse posts. For example, there was a whole thread where Enigma (I think) called you out on your delusional beliefs concerning James. And your assertions on righteousness are recorded on this thread:
Joagbaje:
Legal salvation for OT saints was not connected to Jesus perse . All they require for salvation was good works according to the law.
Joagbaje:
Many people were counted righteous in the OLD testament. Either by faith, by works or by the law. They were called righteous men.
^In fact in this post you declare that people are counted righteous by 1) faith 2) works 3) the law. So I misspoke when I said two. You actually meant "three" types of righteousness.

Your views are well known; as others will bear witness that you have advanced such views in the past on this forum. . .so you are the one lying. I have tried to be patient with you, hoping you would repent of your evil doctrine. . .which is designed to lead astray the sheep of Christ.
Understand this therefore: there will now be no quarter between you and I. The time for tolerating your teaching is over.
Christianity EtcRe: "Half Of The New Testament Was Forged" - Bible Scholar by aletheia(m): 11:18pm On Jun 09, 2011
frosbel:
Hijab is a sign of BONDAGE
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Historically the hijab was the female temple prostitute's way of dressing in the Middle East. That is why Judah did not recognize Tamar in Genesis 38:15: When Judah saw her, he thought her to be an harlot; because she had covered her face.

Is it to be wondered that there are striking similarities between the RCC nun's habit and the hijab?
Christianity EtcRe: The Gospel According To Joagbaje by aletheia(m): 11:10pm On Jun 09, 2011
According to the gospel of Joagbaje:

1) The letter of James is not supposed to be in the Bible because it is "lesser revelation"
2) Abraham was not saved
3) There are "two" types of righteousness: Men can chose the one they wish to live by. It doesn't matter which. They will be saved.
Christianity EtcRe: Hebrew: The True Identity Of Southern Nigerians by aletheia(m): 6:28pm On Jun 04, 2011
@Topic: The book raises some interesting points that bears further looking into. I had always wondered what became of the group of Hebrews that went back to Egypt despite Jeremiah's warnings. Can the publisher of the book make it available in kindle format?
PoliticsRe: Oluremi Tinubu Is Itsekiri by aletheia(m): 10:55pm On Jun 03, 2011
Wikipedia: Yoruboid is a group of languages composed of Igala, a language spoken in central Nigeria, and the Edekiri group, the members of which are spoken in a band across Togo, Benin and southwestern Nigeria. The name Yoruboid derives from its most widely spoken member, Yoruba, which has more than 20 million speakers. Another well-known Yoruboid language is Itsekiri (Nigeria, 600,00-800,000 speakers). The Yoruboid group is a branch of Defoid, which itself is a branch of the Benue-Congo subfamily of the Niger-Congo language family.

Igala is a key Yoruboid language, spoken by 1.8 million people in the Niger-Benue confluence of central Nigeria, it is excised from the main body of Yoruboid languages to the west by Ebirra and the Edo languages. Igala is closely related to both Yoruba and Itsekiri languages.

All Yoruboid languages are tonal, with most of them having three level tones. Grammatically, they are isolating with a Subject Object Verb basic word order.

The Itsekiri's are a riverine Yoruboid people who live in the Niger Delta region of Nigeria. They maintain a distinct identity separate from other Yoruboid people. Their neighbours are the Urhobos, The Ijaws, and the Mahin Ilaje, a Yoruba clan.
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Pastors Are Satanic Agents - True worshipers Be Very Careful! by aletheia(m): 10:35pm On Jun 03, 2011
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Does your statement "anyone" mean "everyone"? Not all churches where tithes are paid quote Malachi 3:10. I know churches where no one is forced to pay a tithe and no one is declared cursed if he does not pay. There are churches where tithes are paid but the pastors do not preach on tithes. . .so your statement has shades of untruth.
Christianity EtcRe: Pentecostal Pastors Are Satanic Agents - True worshipers Be Very Careful! by aletheia(m): 6:09pm On Jun 03, 2011
MrBible:
If it's an envagelist that does not collect tithes. . .
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Is that the biblical criteria for determining the true servant of God? Receiving tithes? There is nothing wrong in church members paying a tithe of their earnings to the church. The problem lies with what is taught with regards to tithes.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 6:02pm On Jun 03, 2011
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Thank you for finally admitting your age. I wonder what your rigmarole was all about. Shalom aleichem.
Sweetnecta:
and i am middle aged
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 12:07am On Jun 03, 2011
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Sorry. At 50 to 60+ years old, you are not middle-aged, you are a "prepubescent child". Has the delusion of your Arabic moon god hubal (a.k.a. allah) extended to you doubting your age now?
PoliticsRe: The Exit Of Yoruba Prodigal Sons. by aletheia(m): 8:31pm On Jun 02, 2011
step1:
Would ACN also care for non-Southwesterners by given then free education etc.
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This is a dangerous train of thought that must be stopped in its tracks. A lot of non-indigenes contribute as well to the economy of Lagos and other SW states. To begin to give in to such bigotry will only weaken the SW. And it behooves true sons of the SW to fight such bigotry.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 8:19pm On Jun 02, 2011
Sweetnecta:
i am a man and what middle age means to you may be different from what it means to somebody else.
^Please stop being paranoid. You once told me that your age is in the region of the 50s - 60s. That makes you middle-aged.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 7:34pm On Jun 02, 2011
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This extended rant of yours proves not a single one of your assertions. Your argument is best summarized thus: The RCC is the original church therefore whatever version of Christianity it practices is the True Christianity.
aletheia:
This is ironic because it reveals that despite your vigorous protestations your view of Christianity is influenced and even now is being molded by the RCC's corrupted version.
Such then is the insidious influence and power of the RCC; that even in your railings against the true gospel of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, you have believed her lying claim to primacy. . .but then since you are already under the delusion of atheism, what is one more lie to you?

Martian:
It doesn't matter what it says in the bible because it can be interpreted to mean anything the person reading it wants it to mean.
On the contrary; it does matter. And of course it can be interpreted to mean anything you wish it to mean. . .the only problem is that your interpretation is wrong. As it is written:
2Pet 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pet 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


Martian:
I am not aware of anythinabout the worship of Mary in the bible but to justify anything they do. . .
And yet the Bible is the basis and the grundnorm and the foundation of the Christian faith. If you cannot find the basis for Mariolatry in its pages how then do you think you have the standing to claim that worship of Mary is Christian. Clearly then you are ignorant about that which you argue against and your time will be better served by studying the Bible.

Martian:
all the catholic church has to do is quote the passage about Jesus saying "on this Rock, I shall build my church" in reference to Peter who they claim was the first pope. Since this is "his church", their religious doctrine is the original and if you're not worshiping Mary maybe you're the one doing it wrong.
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You have answered yourself here:
Martian:
It doesn't matter what it says in the bible because it can be interpreted to mean anything the person reading it wants it to mean.
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Both you and the RCC have the mindset that the Bible does not matter.

Martian:
I'm going to stop now because going on about Mary, Jesus, virgin, god child just reinforces your view that you have sound historical ground to stand on concerning the origin of your faith. Read about Zoroaster and his own virgin birth story, the struggle between good and evil and the other type of beliefs you take as historical facts. Its another myth that predates your on yet look exactly like yours except the Persians and not the Jews were the special people.
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Please do stop as you clearly don't know what you talking about. You are one of those pseudo-intellectual wannabe atheists whose attraction to your creed is because it feeds your supposed sense of intellectual enlightenment. On Zoroaster; you are just regurgitating the usual lies that your sort peddle. The central text of Zoroastrianism the Avesta makes no such claim on behalf of it's prophet. Rather it clearly alludes to conjugal relations between his parents. Save such false claims for other ignorant atheists.

Martian:
Besides the first proselytizing Christians were said to be pagans in their day. grin
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It is exactly just such faux-pas on your part that betrays your ignorance of history. Who exactly referred to the first Christians as "pagans". They were called many names but pagan was not one of them.

In the early Roman Empire, "paganus" came to mean "civilian" as opposed to "military." Christians at the time often called themselves "miles Christi" (Soldiers of Christ). The non-Christians became "pagani" -- non-soldiers or civilians. No denigration would be implied.
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by aletheia(m): 6:56pm On Jun 02, 2011
[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=676553.msg8440568#msg8440568 date=1307017068]And just again I say quote me! You've not asked any question. . .the one you did was answered![/quote]My, how you twist and turn to avoid answering this simple question:
aletheia:
Are you tithing the way Moses said you the children of Israel should tithe?
I am still waiting for my answer. Let me also add two more questions:
Are you tithing the way Abraham tithed?
Did Jesus Christ pay tithes?
Christianity EtcRe: Power In Names by aletheia(m): 3:38pm On Jun 02, 2011
bicici:
(2)PAUL TO DAVID:Paul Yangi Cho the Pastor of the world largest single conregation changes his name from (Paul-meaning little) to David i .e beloved. 4)FLORENCE TO FAITH:Mrs Faith Oyedepo wife of Bishop David Oyedepo Changed her name when she couldn't understand the meaning of Forence to Faith.
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How easy it is for the WoF crowd to be brainwashed and hoodwinked. . .all because they refuse to exercise God-given judgment and discernment.

Paul is also the name of the man that Christ used to write about half the NT. What is wrong with the name?
Florence is a beautiful name whose meaning is also not hidden.

This is hogwash.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 3:08pm On Jun 02, 2011
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Sweetnecta is not a 'sis'. He 's a middle-aged Muslim man with children. There's nothing you will tell him that he has not heard before now. Your time will be better spent praying that God opens his eyes. Regards.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 1:07pm On Jun 02, 2011
Sweetnecta:
is christianity even now being spread by the GUN? lets ask american GIs in Aghanistan and Iraq, etc.
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Usual Muslim paranoia. So Arabs and Afghans are being forced at the point of the gun to go to church by American GIs? Convert to Christianity or else?

I don't have your time.
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by aletheia(m): 12:53pm On Jun 02, 2011
[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=676553.msg8439951#msg8439951 date=1307010831]Who was the nation? Israel of course![/quote]^
If the nation being referred to is Israel in Canaan, why then do your ilk parlay that to refer to Christians then?

[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=676553.msg8439951#msg8439951 date=1307010831]Who was God refering to in that passage? the nation of Israel![/quote]^
Refer to my question immediately above.

[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=676553.msg8439951#msg8439951 date=1307010831]How did they tithe? the way Moses said they should![/quote]^
Again I repeat my question to you suitably emended to close the wriggle room you tried to exploit in avoiding answering the question. Try not to avoid answering it, as it seems you are trying to do.
aletheia:
Are you tithing the way Moses said you the children of Israel should tithe?

I await your answer.
[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=676553.msg8439951#msg8439951 date=1307010831]What's so difficult to understand? *shakes head and laughs at the word "indefensible" - you can tell that to 'em little kids!*[/quote]^
Your snide remarks do not faze me. Answer the question without resorting to insults if you can. But if by any means that will be difficult for you to do; you can include insults in your answer. . .just make sure to answer the question.

I await your answer.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 12:40pm On Jun 02, 2011
Sweetnecta:
the second bold; bloodshed and conquest and required human sacrifice is the hallmark of christianity. let me add deceit, because evangelizing or crusade disguised as charitable effort is still going on as we speak. there is jesus sweet candy versus the sour one dubbed Muhammad in Sudan and other places. in the 1990s, mere 16 years ago, european muslims were slaughtered like pigs before easter weekend, or turkeys before thanksgiving day.
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Usual Muslim paranoia speaking. You mean Islam don't you?

Sweetnecta:
All Praises belong to Allah, Who revealed Taurah on Moses, not by moses or history of moses and definitely not in greek language. this revelation of Taurah to Moses is a proof that the same language or something from the same family of languages [semitic language] was definitely what Injil is revealed on Jesus son of Mary. what is the purpose except deceit to understand what came in wollof language by reading it in akan language?
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Ὁ Λόγος πλήρης χάριτος καὶ ἀληθείας

What a hypocrite you are! What is it to you what language I choose to honor God in? This from you an adherent of a god who can only understand prayers in Arabic. What rich irony!

P.S. Google can translate the phrase for you. I know what drives you: fear of that which you do not understand.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 12:33pm On Jun 02, 2011
@Martian

You only illustrate and reinforce my point. smiley
aletheia:
This is ironic because it reveals that despite your vigorous protestations your view of Christianity is influenced and even now is being molded by the RCC's corrupted version.
Martian:
@ Alethia.

The message of christ was never spread by bloodshed?

I guess the following was an order to peacefully propagate the gospel then.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dum_Diversas
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I find this amusing. You provide as proof the RCC's Dum Diversas of 1452? Haven't you being paying attention? The RCC's pagan traditions is not the message of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. That there are other gospels and other "Christs" is not in doubt. Like I said men will mistake darkness for light. I reiterate my challenge to you: show me how the bible justifies and supports the worship of Mary.

Martian:
Like it or not, they are the original church.
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That is the RCC's claim, which is not borne out by history's evidence. You really amuse me because you are somewhat unaware of the origins of your perceptions about the Christian Faith. Once again you reinforce and illustrate my point:
aletheia:
This is ironic because it reveals that despite your vigorous protestations your view of Christianity is influenced and even now is being molded by the RCC's corrupted version.
Martian:
The cross, he halos, the fish, the various sysmbols and rites of christianity are pagan.
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All RCC pagan symbols. Show me the bible verses that make these acceptable representations of the truth of Jesus Christ.

Martian:
The more history you post, the more you show how your religion is just a plagiarization of other ancient sumerian/ babylonian/ greek mythology.  All you posted just further shows that Isis, Ishtar, Cybele and Mary are all the same mythical figure with different names.  Since the catholics worship mary (a myth) and since they are the ones that shaped your religion, maybe the son of mary that you worship is also a myth.
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Repeating your claims ad nauseam ad infinitum doesn't make them true. The Mary Catholics worship is yet another iteration of Ishtar etc. The church of Acts did not worship Mary, neither has any true Christian from AD33 to AD2011. I agree with you that Catholics have shaped your perception of the message of Christ. More's the pity.

Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light

Martian:
How is the catholic chrurch's mary differnt than your own mary?
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For starters see preceding paragraph.

Martian:
A lot of other myths where spread by bloodshed but not christianity. lmao What other my religion ws spread by bloodshed and violence cloaked as piety apart from the Abrahamic ones and the ancient people in the americas whose gods loved human blood.
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I see you 've beat a hasty retreat from your previous general statement. You have now included Islam, Judaism, and the pre-Spanish civilizations of Mesoamerica. Your research is still incomplete. . .cast your nets wider; you will still find even more ancient religions spread by bloodshed and conquest even your supposedly enlightened Greeks.

In order to even begin to understand what it means to be a follower of Christ; you must first disentangle yourself from your Roman Catholic perceptions. Most of what you perceive to be Christian (even today) is not. They are pagan and therein lies your confusion and misapprehension.
LiteratureRe: Name Your Favourite Sci-fi And Fantasy Writers! by aletheia(m): 11:28am On Jun 02, 2011
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You didn't include your email. In any case download them from this link. It should be available till Sunday.
Christianity EtcRe: How To Reap The Full Benefits Of Tithing by aletheia(m): 11:24am On Jun 02, 2011
[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=676553.msg8439516#msg8439516 date=1307006940](i.e. the way Moses said they should give it)[/quote]^
It is interesting how you guys get yourself twisted into knots in trying to defend the indefensible. Based on your words above: Are you tithing the way Moses said you should tithe?

I await your answer.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 11:07am On Jun 02, 2011
Martian:
The only difference between the jesus "gospel" and the other myths is that the believers of the gospel have spread it through bloodshed, persecution, tourture, colonisation, slavery, indoctrination and never ending evangelism. It is also the most current one since the civilizations that believed in the other versions no longer exist.
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As with most of your other comrades: you make sweeping statements that are indefensible in the light of history and logic. Again you show ignorance of history. A lot of those other myths were spread by bloodshed and conquest and required human sacrifice.

The message of Christ was never spread by bloodshed. There is light and there is darkness, but sometimes men mistake darkness for light.

. . .If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 10:52am On Jun 02, 2011
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Martin Luther, Hitler and Benedict are irrelevant to the discussion. You are just laying down rabbit trails. You make the mistake of thinking I 'll rush to defend the foibles of Luther. I do not regard Martin Luther more highly than he ought to be. I said you were ignorant of history because like a lot of those who claim to be Christians - Protestant & Catholic; you also have bought the lie that there were no true Christians before Luther. This is ironic because it reveals that despite your vigorous protestations your view of Christianity is influenced and even now is being molded by the RCC's corrupted version.

That there are parallels between the pagan Virgin Mother/Divine Child myths and the RCC's version of Mary is because they represent the same thing and have the same pagan sources.

What is the leit-motif of these myths?
The importance of mother goddesses in the various mythologies of paganism is so evident that even a shallow description could easily fill entire volumes…The mother goddess received different names and external appearances, but, in substance, she was always the same. In Egypt, she was called Isis. In Crete, she was represented as a mother who made friendly contact with snakes. In Greece she was known as Demeter, and in Rome she was worshiped as Cybele, the Magna Mater (Great Mother), a mother goddess of Phrygian origin. There is practically no ancient culture that did not worship this type of deity. ( The Myth of Mary, pp.74, 75)
As early as the twenty-fifth century B.C., people of your of the Chaldees in Sumeria worshiped a mother-goddess named Ishtar. Around the same time the Minoans of Crete had a mother-goddess portrayed with “her divine child Velchanos” in her arms. Later, the people of Cyprus revered a goddess who appeared to have been patterned after the Sumerian Ishtar and later adopted by the Greeks as Aphrodite, or Astarte.The Babylonians, who conquered Sumeria around the twenty-second century B.C., related their religious beliefs to the heavenly bodies. They regarded the planets as gods and goddesses and equated the planet Venus with the Sumerian mother-goddess Ishtar.The Babylonians worshiped Ishtar as “The Virgin,” “The Holy Virgin,” “The Virgin Mother,” “Goddess of Goddesses,” and “Queen of Heaven and Earth.” They exclaimed, “Ishtar is great! Ishtar is Queen! My Lady is exalted, my Lady is Queen…There is none like unto her.”

They called her “Shining light of heaven, light of the world, enlightener of all places where men dwell, who gatherest together the hosts of the nations”; and they claimed, “Where thou glancest, the dead come to life, and the sick rise and walk; the mind of the diseased is healed when it looks upon thy face.”
The pagan traditions were introduced by the RCC and reworked to give a Christian facade. . .but if you will be honest, you will admit that there is no single bible verse that supports the veneration and worship of Mary. Certainly you will not find it in any of the OT or NT writings, not even in the Apocrypha of which the RCC is fond. You would be hard-pressed to find anything of historical bible-based Christianity in some "Legion of Mary" meetings where you see these pagan elements come to the fore. In fact, I challenge you to show me how the bible justifies the worship of Mary.

The message of Christ is simple: that through the once and for all death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, God reconciled the world of sinners to himself.

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Movies That Have Impacted You Spiritually, Morally Etc . . . by aletheia(m): 11:19pm On Jun 01, 2011
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Surprised no one has mentioned the Matrix films. . .and how Neo is obviously an anagram of One; the allusions to Lewis Carroll's works; the names of the characters (e.g. Morpheus is the Greek god of sleep) embedded themes of Gnosticism, Free Masonry, Plato's ideal forms, Death and Resurrection, Man And Superman, the list goes on.

You take the blue pill, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
--- Morpheus
There's no escaping reason, no denying purpose, for as we both know,without purpose we would not exist. It is purpose that created us, purpose that connects us, purpose that pulls us, that guides us, that drives us, that binds us, it is purpose that defines us. We are here because of you, Mr. Anderson. We're here to take from you what you tried to take from us. Purpose.
--- Agent Smith in The Matrix Reloaded
I don't know about impacting spiritually, morally etc but the Matrix films certainly gave me food for thought. Most people tend to focus on the fight scenes but the real message of the films is found in the dialogue between the characters, the meaning of their names and in the films imagery. For example has anyone researched on the meaning of "the Merovingian" and what that name hints at.
Christianity EtcRe: Who Is Bored With This Fake Pastor Malarkey? by aletheia(m): 6:10pm On Jun 01, 2011
. . .bored is putting it mildly.
Christianity EtcRe: What Is The Connection Between Jesus And Zeus? by aletheia(m): 4:57pm On Jun 01, 2011
On a aside:
Is ralphellis Uyi Iredia's dark alter-ego; both personas seem to like prefacing sentences with ">>>>"?
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 4:47pm On Jun 01, 2011
Martian:
I can't understand this!!! A christian posts this picture and sees all the myths about virgin mother and god child
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I doubt if you quite understand the Virgin Mother & God Child myths. Or the gospel of Christ. There is no support in the Bible for the catholic traditions. The difference between these myths and the gospel of Jesus is the difference between night and day.

Martian:
Lmao, anyway if you can just claim that the others are "demons" I guess you've covered your a$$.
Nothing makes me mad and still makes me laugh outloud like christianity does!!! It's only christian ignorance that can make the  adherents mock the original. All you christians that are always castigating the Catholic church are actually the heretics and blasphemers thanks to Martin Luther who was also a virulent anti semite. Where do you think Hitler got the inspiration from? Goddamn christian heretics, y'all better bow to your father, his holiness Pope Benedict the ped_phile.
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You show your ignorance of history. . .and you think name dropping Luther, Hitler and Benedict changes that?
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 12:28am On Jun 01, 2011
chukwudi44:
@alethelia
so because amadioha/sango e.t.c are called gods ,does not mean whenever the word god is mentioned it refers 2 them.your analoggy is flawed
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And it written: 1 Cor 8:5-6 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

It is also written: Luke 11:27-28 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

What an interesting contrast! Unlike the teachings of the RCC; Jesus himself declares that those who hear the word of God and keep it are more blessed than being the mother of Jesus!

To continue; it is also written: Matt 12:47-50 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

And: 1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Contrast the blasphemous dogma of Mary as co-Mediatrix in opposition to God's direct word.

What is the difference between these two pictures?
[table][tr][td]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Murillo_immaculate_conception.jpg/409px-Murillo_immaculate_conception.jpg[/td][td][img]http://1phil4everyill.files./2010/11/pagan_god_astarte.jpg?w=538&h=540[/img][/td][/tr][/table]

The first is a painting by Bartolomé Esteban Murillo titled The Immaculate Conception of the Venerable Ones, or of Soult. The second is an image of Astarte (Ashtoreth). Notice the striking similarities.
Both figures have halos, are surrounded by other writhing figures and are standing on a crescent moon.

Your RCC by it's pagan traditions has corrupted the pure and Holy Word of God and is leading people astray.
Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 7:44pm On May 31, 2011
chukwudi44:
my good friend alethelia where did u see me mention ishtar/ashtoreth.what is wrong in asking my dear mother 2 pray 4 me.is that not d same way your pastors pray 4 u.mind u she does freely without askoing 4 tithe.
^Some titles of "Mary of the RCC"
The Virgin
The Lady
Mother of God
Queen of Heaven


Some titles of Ishtar/Ashtoreth/Isis
The Babylonians worshiped Ishtar as “The Virgin,” “The Holy Virgin,” “The Virgin Mother,” “Goddess of Goddesses,” and “Queen of Heaven and Earth.” They exclaimed, “Ishtar is great! Ishtar is Queen! My Lady is exalted, my Lady is Queen…There is none like unto her.”

They called her “Shining light of heaven, light of the world, enlightener of all places where men dwell, who gatherest together the hosts of the nations”; and they claimed, “Where thou glancest, the dead come to life, and the sick rise and walk; the mind of the diseased is healed when it looks upon thy face.”
The Egyptians called Isis “the Great Mother” and “the Mother of God.” Isis worship spread to Italy by the second century and then throughout the entire Roman Empire. There the goddess was portrayed with her “divine child Horus” in her arms and widely acclaimed as “Queen of Heaven” [/i]and [i]“Mother of God.”
You don't need to call your goddess by her ancient name of Ishtar/Ashtoreth for this demonic entity is a master of disguises and has been adept at changing names depending on the culture - Isis, Ishtar, Ashtoreth, Cybele, Venus, Aphrodite and now Mary of the RCC.

Ponder again the rebuke in Jeremiah to the children of Israel worshiping the Queen of Heaven.

And yes, a picture is worth a thousand words. . .

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Christianity EtcRe: Pope Declares: Being Catholic Meant Belonging To Mary! by aletheia(m): 5:51pm On May 31, 2011
chukwudi44:
mary !! Mary !! I commit myself unto your care.pls pray 4 me n present my intentions before your son our Lord Jesus christ
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You are praying to Ishtar/Ashtoreth. May God open your eyes! Your attitude is exactly like that of the children of Israel in Jeremiah's time.

Jer 44:17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.

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