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Christianity Etc › Re: The Metamorphosis Of Pilgrim 1 by aletheia(m): 12:54pm On Aug 24, 2011

wordtalk:
At this point, I will not hide - indeed I am viaro.

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Yay! Welcome back. Some of us have missed your contributions. Remain blessed in the Lord!

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 1:04pm On Aug 21, 2011

@nopuqeater:

May Yahweh grant you mercy.

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:57pm On Aug 21, 2011

On December 12th

You did not address the fact that in the qur'an the Arabic word used for soul is nafs; the word used for spirit is ruh.

The word soul appears several times in your sura baraqah that I quoted and in all cases it is the derivatives of nafs that is in the Arabic not ruh. You know you cannot deny that hence no attempt to rebut but a rather weak attempt at diversionary tactics. Make all the noise you want. Tell all the lies you wish. Here is the verdict: There are no verses in the qur'an that call Gabriel the Holy Spirit.

Neither did you address the fact that your prophet knows little about the Holy Spirit according to his own words. Witness: 17:85 They will question thee concerning the Spirit. Say: 'The Spirit is of the bidding of my Lord. You have been given of knowledge nothing except a little.'

Thus your prophet confessed that he knew little about the Holy Spirit. And this borne out by the fact that the word "Holy" or "Holiness" scarcely occurs in the qur'an. Neither has any Muslim being able to answer the question I posed weeks back. What does holiness mean to a Muslim?
As Jesus declared: "By their fruits you will know them"

What is the unholy fruit of the unholy followers of an unholy prophet of an unholy god of an unholy religion called Islam? Murder, despoil, broken families, heartlessness, lies etc. Is it any wonder that the most backward, deprived, dejected and poverty-stricken part of Nigeria is the Islamic North?

Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:53pm On Aug 21, 2011

On December 11th:

vedaxcool:
Scum is the word for you . JJust like I defeat you in the thread my lord my lord why have thou forsaken me, I have again floored you here, as you couldn't answer a simple question that any Im*becil can answer but raised one that was thoroughly answered.Keep repeating symptoms of the mythomania you suffer from.

^^My what a lather you are in. You make a good case for Islamic civility. What an invective-filled missive. This is the typical rage of the blood-thirsty demons of Islam manifesting. Since you cannot harm me physically, you must needs content yourself with insults. grin

Defeat? Delusional as well. Just like your prophet who kept trying to commit suicide but needed regular doses of egomania from his familiar spirit to stop him doing so.

vedaxcool:
Again, the Liar shows us the reason why the word irredeemable drunk is synonymous to his character. As words that appear in bracket, any sensible person knows is the translator's addition based to clarify what is being talked about, you find this brackets even in the bible, but the irredeemable drunk has a bigger problem than NL can handle, as reading the verse gives us the following, it says for guidance and good tidings to the believers confirming what was revealed before ---In essence the Qur'an is what it refers to and you do not need to be an Eienstein to know this

^^And again; your own words betray the incompleteness of the qur'an. You say the words that appear in the brackets are the translators own addition---thereby proving my case that the Arabic of the qur'an does not contain Gabriel in the passages that refer to the Holy Spirit nether mentions qur'an in the referenced passage. Why would a translator need to add words to the qur'an to clarify it? It means the book is incoherent and needs to be assisted to communicate. In fact only about 8% of the qur'an is legible, and this error is further compounded by the insistence on a liturgical language of Arabic. Of course, this ignorance of what the Arabic actually says is partly why a lot of Nigerian Muslims are more "Muslim" than the Arabs---ignorance compounded by ignorance. It also means that the translator will add his own clarifying comments based on his fancies or traditions. After all Shi'a Islam reads some verses of the qur'an differently from Sunni Islam. And of the supposed 73 sects of Islam: your prophet declared that only one is the real one. Which one I wonder?

Of course, you show that you know nothing of the Bible! Show any where in the Bible where translators added words in brackets to clarify the meaning the way you Muslims alter the qur'an by adding names like Gabriel where Jibreel does not appear in the original text.

vedaxcool:
You are too incoherent to be answered.

^^And yet you wrote such a long rambling and largely incoherent post in reply to me. What are you afraid of? That the truth about the Satanic origin of Islam is coming out.

vedaxcool:
the word ruh also means soul, and hence writing the above only shows how myopic your thoughts really are. As the way the word spirit/soul gives us its interpretation, but typical of Christians they cannot read within the context.

^^Really? So let's look again at 15:29:

So, when I have made him and have breathed into him of My Spirit, do ye fall down, prostrating yourselves unto him.
By your logic and wish-washy translation Allah breathed his soul into Adam; which means Adam was Allah. You yourself know that the Arabic word for soul is nafs similar to the Hebrew nephesh; while spirit is ruh likewise similar to Hebrew ruach

And we see this in your qur'an:

2:281. And fear a day wherein you shall be returned to God, and every soul shall be paid in full what it has earned; and they shall not be wronged.
Which in Arabic is: Waittaqoo yawman turjaAAoona feehi ila Allahi thumma tuwaffa kullu nafsin ma kasabat wahum la yuthlamoona

So you are being disingenuous when you say ruh means soul when even your qur'an clearly uses nafs for soul and ruh for spirit.

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:52pm On Aug 21, 2011

@nopuqeater: where are you? You invited me to this thread!

Sweetnecta:
And as to the Ruhu (Spirit) as in RuhuQudus, is there anyone with such a title other than Jibril (AS)? I asked the Keferi man who claims to know Islam more than Muhammad (AS), to give us an answer. We in Islam know who RuhuQudus is; Jibril. And Jibril has other titles as well.

^^Do you all now seek to outdo yourselves in seeing who will render the most insults to aletheia? grin

The truth indeed is bitter. You are all acting like those who murdered Stephen.

Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, [Acts 7:57]

I have proven that there is no where in the qur'an that Gabriel is identified as the Holy Spirit or the Holy Spirit identified as Gabriel. Y'all suffering from cognitive dissonance arising from life-long brainwashing and living in bondage and darkness. You are spiritually dead men---and slaves to sin. And dead men hear not and see. Unless the Son of God, Jesus of Nazareth commands them to come forth like Lazarus. May Christ have mercy on you all.

As to your prophet. . .the question he was asked was very specific.

aletheia:
According to Sahih Bukhari this verse came down when the Jews questioned Muhammad on the Spirit's identity:

Narrated Ibn Mas'ud:

While I was walking in company with the Prophet in one of the fields of Medina, the Prophet was reclining on a palm leave stalk which he carried with him. We passed by a group of Jews. Some of them said to the others, "Ask him about the spirit." The others said, "Do not ask him, lest he would say something that you hate." Some of them said, "We will ask him." So a man from among them stood up and said, [i]'O Abal-Qasim! What is the spirit?" The Prophet kept quiet and I knew that he was being divinely inspired. Then he said: "They ask you concerning the Spirit, Say: The Spirit; its knowledge is with my Lord. And of knowledge you (mankind) have been given only a little." (17.85) Volume 9, Book 93, Number 554[/i]

Hence, Muhammad did not even know the identity of God's Spirit.

Indeed show us where your prophet says Gabriel is the Holy Spirit. It is time for Muslims to stop lying on this thread.

The answer he gave is recorded in your 17th sura. It leaves little wiggle room for you lot. As always you add to your qur'an. The reason you do that is because it is an incomplete and incoherent book that needs to be propped up or else Islam will collapse under the weight of it's schizophrenic illogicalities and inconsistencies. Muslims are indeed zealous for their self-serving religion of convenience but as it is written in the Bible: "It is not good to have zeal without knowledge"

The message has gone forth: the eternal gospel of our Lord and Savior; Jesus Christ of Nazareth the Son of God: Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him. [1 Peter 3:22]

Maranatha! Jesus is Lord

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:49pm On Aug 21, 2011

On December 11th:

Sweetnecta:
Jibril, a spirit in many verses, including Surah Qadr (malaikatu wa ruhu fi ha).
Only an ignorant person will say ruhu here and other places will think that it is other than Jibril (AS).
Can any soul, muslim or not, know Quran more than the one who (AS), it was revealed upon?

^^
What a disaster your profession of Islam is:

Sura Qadr---the 97th that I quoted: Does it there say that Gabriel is the Holy Spirit? Isn't this what the 4th verse says in Arabic:

Tanazzalu almala-ikatu waalrroohu feeha bi-ithni rabbihim min kulli amrin. Where is Jibreel in it? It is a short sura; so I am sure it is no trouble for you to locate Jibreel in it and show us.

Sweetnecta:
So when a kafir is saying that Jibril is not the Ruhu or RuhuQudus, we should the disbeliever, what authority do you stand on?
Are you an arab? If yes, are you a muslim? If yes, did you hear Muhammad (AS) describe Ruhu, RuhuQudus other than saying it is Jibril? What is your authority, man?
Oh my. My. oh my. If you think this is overshadowing and overwhelming a young woman Mary, then look into your Bible. Quran does not say that.

^^^This kafir has proven that you lie when you say Gabriel is the Holy Spirit for your qur'an does not make that identification. Even you prophet did not say that:
17:85 They will question thee concerning the Spirit. Say: 'The Spirit is of the bidding of my Lord. You have been given of knowledge nothing except a little.'

According to Sahih Bukhari this verse came down when the Jews questioned Muhammad on the Spirit's identity:

Narrated Ibn Mas'ud:

While I was walking in company with the Prophet in one of the fields of Medina, the Prophet was reclining on a palm leave stalk which he carried with him. We passed by a group of Jews. Some of them said to the others, "Ask him about the spirit." The others said, "Do not ask him, lest he would say something that you hate." Some of them said, "We will ask him." So a man from among them stood up and said, [i]'O Abal-Qasim! What is the spirit?" The Prophet kept quiet and I knew that he was being divinely inspired. Then he said: "They ask you concerning the Spirit, Say: The Spirit; its knowledge is with my Lord. And of knowledge you (mankind) have been given only a little." (17.85) Volume 9, Book 93, Number 554[/i]

Hence, Muhammad did not even know the identity of God's Spirit.

Indeed show us where your prophet says Gabriel is the Holy Spirit. It is time for Muslims to stop lying on this thread.

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:46pm On Aug 21, 2011

vedaxcool:
[2:97] Say, "Anyone who opposes[b] Gabriel should know that he has brought down this (Quran)[/b] into your heart, in accordance with GOD's will, confirming
previous scriptures, and providing guidance and good news for the believers."

16:101 When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),- they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them understand not.

16:102 Say, [b]the Holy Spirit [/b]has brought the revelation(Qur'an) from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.

2:97 says Gabriel brought down the Qur'an. and 16:102 is affirming that the Holy spirit Brought down the revelation, hence the Holy Spirit is Gabriel. QED

After nearly a month of evasive maneuvers; is this the best you can do. Let it be noted that there are no verses in the qur'an that state that Gabriel is the Holy Spirit. Instead you present a tepid and rather circuitous QED.

Let us look at 2.97; noting that you also apply the same trick that your cohort chakula used above---interpolating words into the qur'an. 2.97 does not mention qur'an:

If we translated the Arabic without interpolating words, we arrive at:

Say: 'Whosoever is an enemy to Gabriel -- he it was that brought it down upon thy heart by the leave of God, confirming what was before it, and for a guidance and good tidings to the believers. (S. 2:97)
Notice it does not mention qur'an. Likewise in 16:101-102; we find only mention of a generic it. You added qur'an in order to try and make your assertion seem genuine.
Secondly the qur'an itself for all it's errors several times makes the distinction between the Spirit and angels for Gabriel is one of the angels, while the Holy Spirit is separate.
S97:4. The angels and the Spirit descend therein, by the permission of their Lord with every bidding.

So what Muslims will have us believe; is that verses such as the following:

S15.29. So, when I have made him and have breathed into him of My Spirit, do ye fall down, prostrating yourselves unto him.

instead should read:

So, when I have made him and have breathed into him of [b]Gabriel, do ye fall down, prostrating yourselves unto him.[/b]

In fact Muhammad in this is more honest than his later day followers who claim Gabriel is the Holy Spirit.

17:85 They will question thee concerning the Spirit. Say: 'The Spirit is of the bidding of my Lord. You have been given of knowledge nothing except a little.'

God is merciful, for even in their error-hurled book, He has provided to them a little light, thereby confirming that which Paul said in Athens:

That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us [Acts 17:27]

We find this written in the qur'an:
S4:171. O ye people of the Book! do not exceed in your religion, nor say against God aught save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, is but the apostle of God and His Word, which He cast into Mary and a spirit from Him; believe then in God and His apostles, and say not 'Three.' Have done! it were better for you. God is only one God, celebrated be His praise that He should beget a Son! His is what is in the heavens and what is in the earth; and God sufficeth for a guardian.

In this verse, Jesus is called "HIS WORD" and "SPIRIT FROM HIM". These two sentence makes it clear that Jesus is the very God and there is no doubt in it. This is God manifest as Father, Son and Holy Spirit, after all!

1. God Himself
2. His Word (Jesus)
3. His Spirit (Holy Spirit)

If God has a spirit and God has a word in Qur'an then God of Qur'an also is a triune God. It turns out that in attacking Christianity, the Qur'an affirms the central dogma of Christians:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. [John 1:1-2]

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. [John 1:14]

At the very core of this Islamic message we find a seed of truth - that will stand as a witness against all Muslims who refuse to believe that Jesus is Lord.

Indeed Jesus is Lord of Lords, and King of Kings, the Alpha and Omega, to whom be praise and worship and glory and authority forever and ever. Amen!

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:41pm On Aug 21, 2011

. . .thus was Muslim duplicity and dishonesty revealed:

chakula:
Here is the Verse in Chapter 17 verse 19.

{ فَٱتَّخَذَتْ مِن دُونِهِم حِجَاباً فَأَرْسَلْنَآ إِلَيْهَآ رُوحَنَا فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا بَشَراً سَوِيّاً }

Thus she veiled herself from them, she draped herself in a veil to conceal herself while she washed her hair [from lice], or [washed] her clothes, or cleansed herself from her menses; whereupon We sent to her Our Spirit, Gabriel, and he assumed before her, after she donned her clothes, the likeness of a well-proportioned human, perfect in physical form.

^^^Tsk, tsk, tsk. Muslim dishonesty at it's most sublime. Here is what you did:
#1. You posted the wrong verse: I' m sure you meant S19:17 not 17:19.
#2. You posted in Arabic because most readers will not understand the Arabic you posted. And then added your own interpretation. You added Gabriel yourself even though the Arabic of the qur'an makes no mention whatsoever of Gabriel in S19:17.

Here is the correct translation of Sura 19:17.
And had chosen seclusion from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man (Pickthall).

For those who may not understand Arabic, here is the Arabic transliteration so that they may judge for themselves your dishonesty:

Faittakhathat min doonihim hijaban faarsalna ilayha roohana fatamaththala laha basharan sawiyyan

As we can see only roohana appears in the Arabic; there is no mention of Jibreel.

Enough with the lies please. Did I not say that most of what is Islam today is not found in the qur'an?

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:40pm On Aug 21, 2011

On December 10th, after about 1 month of running up and down, Chakula finally summoned up courage and posted:

Here is the Verse in Chapter 17 verse 19.

{ فَٱتَّخَذَتْ مِن دُونِهِم حِجَاباً فَأَرْسَلْنَآ إِلَيْهَآ رُوحَنَا فَتَمَثَّلَ لَهَا بَشَراً سَوِيّاً }

Thus she veiled herself from them, she draped herself in a veil to conceal herself while she washed her hair [from lice], or [washed] her clothes, or cleansed herself from her menses; whereupon We sent to her Our Spirit, Gabriel, and he assumed before her, after she donned her clothes, the likeness of a well-proportioned human, perfect in physical form.

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:38pm On Aug 21, 2011

On December 8th:

Sweetnecta:
. . .you bear aletheia, a greek word, while Jesus who you call god spoke no greek but only syriac and a child of Israel. . .you aletheia is attached to zeus or apollo; of greek fraternity!

^^You present an excellent example of Islamic confusion and apologetic reasoning. 27 books of the Bible are written in Greek and only portions of Daniel and some verses in Jeremiah are written in Aramaic. aletheia is a Greek word: a language still very much spoken today! You might as well have said I am Greek orthodox because aletheia is Greek: what silly reasoning! But then such reasoning would appeal to you because your liturgical language is Arabic; the same language Muhammad's grandfather used to offer up prayers to the idol Hubal, one of the gods you syncretistically worship today under the name al-ilah. No doubt you are boiling in rage: hence all these illogical statements. Calm down.

[table][tr][td]kai[/td][td]gnōsesthe [/td][td]tēn[/td][td]alētheian[/td][td] kai[/td][td]ē [/td][td]alētheia [/td][td]eleutherōsei [/td][td]umas[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]and[/td][td]you will know[/td][td]the[/td][td]truth[/td][td]and[/td][td]the[/td][td]truth[/td][td]will make free[/td][td]you[/td][/tr][/table]

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[tr][td]legei[/td][td] autō[/td][td]iēsous[/td][td]egō[/td][td]eimi[/td][td]ē[/td][td]odos[/td][td]kai[/td][td]ē[/td][td]alētheia[/td][td]kai[/td][td]ē[/td][td]zōē[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]said[/td][td]to him[/td][td]Jesus[/td][td]I[/td][td]am[/td][td]the[/td][td]way[/td][td]and[/td][td]the[/td][td]truth[/td][td]and[/td][td]the[/td][td]life[/td][/tr]
[/table]

Sweetnecta:
Now to the headache you have; The Name of Malaika Jibril (AS). There are few things you cant deny written about him;
He exists.
He is a Malaika (An Angel)
he is created.
The Quran was brought by him, as piece meal revelations, on a situation by situation basis.
He accompanied Muhammad (AS) in the Isra wa Miraj journey.
He was called by Allah in descriptions by many attributes.
One of the Attributes is RuhuQudud (Holy Spirit).

^^Is what you posted above the qur'anic verses that say that Gabriel is the Holy Spirit? NO.
I do not want a litany of fables. Just post the verses and be done with it.

Sweetnecta:
If you think there is no RuhuQudus from the Quran, please states it very clearly and give us your reason[s].

^^Typical of Sweetnecta when you have no countering points: create a diversionary argument. Have I any where stated that the Holy Spirit is not mentioned in the qur'an? On the kola oloye thread: I even posted two verses from your qur'an that mention the Holy Spirit. My point which after all these weeks you are still in quandary over and are unable to refute is this: The qur'an does not and never says any where that Gabriel is the Holy Spirit.

Sweetnecta:
I have asked you to wager your sham on this matter.

Wager? Do you think this is a joke? Bring your superior arguments and overwhelm me by the force of them. Your challenge is weak. If you have the truth convince me by posting the pertinent qur'anic verses that say Gabriel is the Holy Spirit.

Sweetnecta:
I know Jibril is ruhuQudus

^^And your knowledge is based on what? Certainly not the qur'an! Which only buttresses the point I made earlier: so much of what is Islam is not supported by the qur'an. Indeed left to stand on it's own without the props it collapses under the weight of its illogicalities and inconsistencies. Islam must consequently be dismissed as fraudulent and yet the tragedy is that billions have based their hope on it. But it is a false hope.

The basic premise of this thread is that Jesus is not Allah for that is what a Muslim means when he says "god". And of course the Muslim is right in saying Jesus is not Allah for Allah is no true god. He's just one of many several false gods like "Zeus or Apollo of greek fraternity".

#1. Jesus is not Allah because Allah is a false god--- Allah is Satan masquerading as the Most High One.
#2. Muhammad's Gabriel is not the true Gabriel---he is a satanic impostor as seen by the evidence of his encounters with Muhammad which bear the hallmarks of demonic possession. Cf the biblical descriptions of Gabriel's encounter with men with that of Muhammad and one immediately sees that these are two different beings!

And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. [2 Corinthians 11:14]

Only Jesus can save!

Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. [Revelation 1:7-8]

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:31pm On Aug 21, 2011

On November 28th:

^^Crocodile tears! See who's calling aletheia coward and yet not one Muslim has had the courage or ability to disprove this simple statement.

aletheia:
[size=14pt]There are no qur'anic verses that state that Gabriel is the Holy Spirit.[/size] Yet you are still huffing and puffing to no effect after many days and round about posts. Simply post the verses once and for all and prove aletheia wrong or else let it be known that Islam lies when it claims Gabriel is the Holy Spirit. And if Islam lies on this point; what other things has it lied about?

I have given you guys more than enough time to disprove me but you are all running around in circles, tossing insults and trying to introduce diversions. Observers are therefore left with no other conclusion than that:

Sweetnecta, vedaxcool and co [size=14pt]cannot produce a single verse from the qur'an that states that Gabriel is the Holy Spirit.[/size]. Instead they have tried to hide that deficit by lies and insults and diversionary tactics.

Conclusion: Muslims lie when they say Gabriel is the Holy Spirit.

Jesus is Lord Jesus is Sovereign over Allah who must bow before Jesus who is the Lord of Lords and King of Kings; the Only Potentate, to whom be glory and praise forever and ever. Amen!

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:14pm On Aug 21, 2011

On November 25th:

^^^

Sweetnecta:
Sura Najm will be my first set up verses. . .

Really? I asked you a straightforward question in post #213,

What does Holy and Holiness mean to the Muslim?

Several posts later, you still waffling. . .just produce the verses. Simple. Instead you are talking about Sura Najm which does not mention the Holy Spirit, neither Gabriel. Does Sura Najm say that the Holy Spirit is Gabriel? Emphatically no! Repeatedly by your diversionary tactics you show that you cannot answer the question and therefore prove my intial point:

You are a Muslim who claims to know his qur'an but you couldn't answer the question; al-ilah it would seem has a phobia for holiness; only twice in his qur'an does he deign to use that word for himself (your assignment is to find the two verses) but he in no way educates his followers as to what ~~that~~ holiness and being holy means. Compare the Bible: 231 times in the NT and 458 times in the OT and I have not even included derivatives like holiness in the word count!

The 53rd Sura starts off with your god swearing by the Star. Was he so desperate to convince his listeners that he was genuine? Very funny. . .since we know that those who swear, swear by that which is greater than them. Thus it is shown that the Star is greater than Allah, since al-ilah swears by the Star.

53.1. By the Star when it setteth,

Now compare this:

For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,(Hebrews 6:13)

Reading further down your Sura brings us to the dark secret of Islam---hints of its Satanic origins: verses 19 - 21 --- the edited version of the Satanic verses.

53:19-21. Have ye thought upon [b]Al-Lat and Al-'Uzza
And Manat, the third, the other?
Are yours the males and His the females?

Not surprisingly; further down in verse 27; al-ilah seems to hint that these female deities who are his daughters are actually angels of his erroneously named as females.

[b]53:27. Lo! it is those who disbelieve in the Hereafter who name the angels with the names of females.

The 53rd sura does not call Gabriel the Ruuh Qudus. In fact it neither mentions the Holy Spirit or Gabriel. The names mentioned there are the names of Allah's daughters. It does not answer the question!

Sweetnecta:
If after you tell me who Massiah is, can you accept tp lose your idolatry of three gods if i show you names of Jibril (AS)

^^
Story, story. This is an example of what seyibrown called pretend ignorance. You and I know who the Messiah is---an Muhammad is not the one. You are just engaging in diversionary tactics: just post the quranic verses that say Ruuh Qudus is Gabriel; that is all you need do. No long grammar.

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:11pm On Aug 21, 2011

Sweetnecta:
I will give you no less than 2 verses where Jibril is referred as "Holy Spirit" that brought the Quran to you, Oh Muhammad, since the Quran revelations apart from the last 4 verses of Surah Baqarah were through Jibril (AS).

I will also give you other names Jibril was called, you enemy of Pure and True Faith. Your lies are now exposed.

^^^So where are the verses? Or are you referring to this one?

Walaqad atayna moosa alkitaba waqaffayna min baAAdihi bialrrusuli waatayna AAeesa ibna maryama albayyinati waayyadnahu biroohi alqudusi afakullama jaakum rasoolun bima la tahwa anfusukumu istakbartum fafareeqan kaththabtum wafareeqan taqtuloona

Or this one:

Tilka alrrusulu faddalna baAAdahum AAala baAAdin minhum man kallama Allahu warafaAAa baAAdahum darajatin waatayna AAeesa ibna maryama albayyinati waayyadnahu biroohi alqudusi walaw shaa Allahu ma iqtatala allatheena min baAAdihim min baAAdi ma jaat-humu albayyinatu walakini ikhtalafoo faminhum man amana waminhum man kafara walaw shaa Allahu ma iqtataloo walakinna Allaha yafAAalu ma yureedu

Is there any mention of Gabriel? Still waiting for the answer of what holiness means to Muslims.

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:07pm On Aug 21, 2011

Before then on November 22nd:

Sweetnecta:
@Aletheia: « #218 on: Today at 10:59:20 AM »If I give you One or more, what will you do with your Christian faith; if you will abandon it and become Muslim, its worth my effort? If not, I will not labor for your sake. You have to declare it, right now.

I gave you a straightforward assignment:

aletheia:
^^^Go and compile all the verses in the Qur'an that talk about the Holy Spirit; then come back and tell me which of them says the Holy Spirit is Gabriel.---I 'm sure you know you won't find any. So Muslims lie when they say Gabriel is the Holy Spirit.

I guess you are still searching and are unable to find any: hence the excuse you are now proffering. My being a Christian has not stopped you from posting qur'anic verses in the past. Why now? Because there exists no qur'anic verses that say Gabriel is the Holy Spirit.

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 12:05pm On Aug 21, 2011

On November 23rd 2010:

aletheia:
^^^And so Sweetnecta beats a retreat. . .until next time. . .being unable to produce any verses in the qur'an that state that the Holy Spirit is Gabriel. If there were actually any verses; going by Sweetnecta's antecedents; they would have been posted by now.

Christianity Etc › Re: Alethea; This Is For You. So Tell Me The Name Of You Ghost God. by aletheia(m): 11:57am On Aug 21, 2011

@nopuqeater:

I am somewhat flattered that you opened a whole thread just because of me. And so after a year or so of evasive action and avoiding the vexed issue (for Muslims) of the Holy Spirit, you now decide to try and respond. All I need to say on this issue I have already said on the previous threads so I will reproduce the pertinent posts as time permits.

(Exod 3:13 [KJV])
And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

(Exod 3:14-15 [KJV])
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: [i]this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. [/i]

The Name is certainly not allah.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by aletheia(m): 10:17pm On Aug 20, 2011

Joagbaje:
I give to the poor , even Muslim beggars.

Yeah. . .right. Your usual self-promotion.<<- Matthew 6:1-3

Politics › Re: Jonathan Moves To Reduce Parastatals, Agencies by aletheia(m): 8:44pm On Aug 19, 2011

^^^
And you are a classic example of just the kind of cynic he had in mind.

Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Joagbaje by aletheia(m): 7:21pm On Aug 19, 2011

mazaje:
Is there any verse in the bible that states the believers will experience lack, injustice, diseases, suffering and poverty?. . . . . .

^
[b](John 16:33 [KJV])
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

(2Cor 4:8-11 [KJV])
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed; Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.

(Rom 8:18 [KJV])
For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

(1Pet 4:12-14 [KJV])
Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

(Heb 11:36-38 [KJV])
And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; (Of whom the world was not worthy they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. [/b]

The modern pentecostal movement is actually an aberration. The usual state of the church has been that of being beset on every side and being persecuted. This is so today even in places like Saudi Arabia, Iran, China and parts of Northern Nigeria. The history of the church bears this out. Consult Foxe's Book of Martyrs.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Blessing Of Abraham by aletheia(m): 2:33pm On Aug 19, 2011

^
But has he actually acknowledged that he initially wrote "collection"? Notice how he evades it by a generic:

ogoamaka99:
Any man/woman who never acknowledge his or her mistake is a fool. To say you never make a mistake is a sign of ignorance.

Education › Re: GEJ, Apple Corp, And Building New Universities by aletheia(m): 6:47pm On Aug 17, 2011

@texazzpete:

Moreover:
In your bid to rush to rebut me and sound important, you trip over your own foot. What do Ipads, Ipods and Macs run on? Windows? I realize the problem with most Nigerians is that they are barely literate. Try and read my post again. Pay close attention to the highlighted part and go sit in a corner and quietly think about that.

aletheia:
What is Apple's major product? Laptops, Ipads and such gadgets, right? Wrong actually. Apple's major product is it's proprietary software and services it provides it's consumers. This is the source of it's steady earnings. The hardware is just a way of locking consumers into the Apple Ecosystem. You may also want to look at Microsoft. What product does this Titan of a company produce? Is it hardware or a natural resource?

That Apple makes hardware is a matter of the business model adopted at the beginning. Research the history of Apple and Microsoft.

Anyone can lift quotations and paste them in a bid to slant the narrative in a certain way as you did:

texazzpete:
Revenue for the quarter was $28.6 billion, representing year-over-year growth of 82%. This record quarterly revenue tops the previous record established in the most recent December quarter by $1.8 billion and was almost $13 billion over the year-ago quarter’s results.

The tremendous year-over-year increase was fueled primarily by dramatic growth in iPhone and iPad sales in addition to strong growth in Mac sales. Operating margin was a record high of $9.4 billion, representing 32.8% of revenue

However it takes an educated man to understand the nuances:

First the incredible news that Apple had surpassed Microsoft in overall profit. Now Horace Dedieu points out that Apple’s software platforms now enables it to earn more than double the amount of profits Microsoft garners from Windows.

The profits are split between iOS and OS X on Apple’s side. The iOS platform enables about 75% of Apple’s overall profit, with record sales of the iPhone and lower but still strong sales of the iPad in Q2. Just four years ago iOS only counted for 50% of profit.

The OS X platform enables about 20% of Apple’s profits, which is also a growth from last year.

Dedieu points to these numbers as evidence that Apple is succeeding based on their integrated platform-and-hardware model.

The post-PC era is being kicked off by a new business model where profits are being concentrated in a hardware+software+service integrator.

You’ll recall that this is the very thing that many saw as the problem with the Mac in its less successful days. The pressure to license the OS and become a sole distributor of software like Microsoft was strong. If Apple had taken the bait and become a software only company it would never have developed the iPhone and iPad, devices that use the iOS platform.

That platform now enables Apple to generate enough profit to outstrip Microsoft’s Windows by 2/3.

The message is a simple one. Making software and selling the hardware that runs it is the business model with the strongest future. Microsoft wasn’t interested in this back when Windows was king, but now that profits are slipping, it’s something that they can’t continue turning a blind eye to.

I believe you should take your own advice:

texazzpete:
Please try and speak about things you know about.

Education › Re: GEJ, Apple Corp, And Building New Universities by aletheia(m): 6:31pm On Aug 17, 2011

texazzpete:
Please try and speak about things you know about. In the words of Apple's CFO during their Q2 2011 earning call:

^
In your bid to rush to rebut me and sound important, you trip over your own foot. What do Ipads, Ipods and Macs run on? Windows? I realize the problem with most Nigerians is that they are barely literate. Try and read my post again. Pay close attention to the highlighted part and go sit in a corner and quietly think about that.

aletheia:
What is Apple's major product? Laptops, Ipads and such gadgets, right? Wrong actually. Apple's major product is it's proprietary software and services it provides it's consumers. This is the source of it's steady earnings. The hardware is just a way of locking consumers into the Apple Ecosystem. You may also want to look at Microsoft. What product does this Titan of a company produce? Is it hardware or a natural resource?

Education › Re: GEJ, Apple Corp, And Building New Universities by aletheia(m): 2:14pm On Aug 17, 2011

PeeDaVinci:
fyi, if university education/research is wat stoopied gej refers as knowledge

Is that all you gleaned from that post on FB? I think you are the one who needs to calm down. Apparently for some of you anything GEJ makes you see red and your brains cease functioning.

Now let me break it down for you. What is Exxon's major product? Oil. A finite resource which is drilled out of the ground. What is Apple's major product? Laptops, Ipads and such gadgets, right? Wrong actually. Apple's major product is it's proprietary software and services it provides it's consumers. This is the source of it's steady earnings. The hardware is just a way of locking consumers into the Apple Ecosystem. You may also want to look at Microsoft. What product does this Titan of a company produce? Is it hardware or a natural resource?

Now go back and look again at this quote from the post in question:

we see on the world stage that knowledge is more valuable than oil.

And indeed knowledge is more valuable than oil. Ask countries like India, Japan and Singapore. Oil will run out. Knowledge will only increase.

Oh BTW: you really need to learn how to use Google (another Behemoth that is a knowledge-based coy).

Education › Re: GEJ, Apple Corp, And Building New Universities by aletheia(m): 12:55pm On Aug 17, 2011

PeeDaVinci:
this man is stooopid , seriously, he needs to get his head examined. wat does he even mean by a knowledge-based firm?? does he mean oil based firms do not need the univ. for watever they do, and wat makes apple knowledge-based and exxon not knowledge-based !!! this man is a complete joke.

wat even pains me more is pple's comment on this stooopid post of his!! pathethic

^
You are the one that is actually a clueless ignoramus. Classification of a company as knowledge-based or otherwise has nothing to do with university education. You should have educated yourself by following up on your own question (sic) "wat makes apple knowledge-based and exxon not knowledge-based". Hint: consider the nature of their products & services.

Education › Re: GEJ, Apple Corp, And Building New Universities by aletheia(m): 12:40pm On Aug 17, 2011

@OP: I will say you are being too cynical. Remember this quote? What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

maclatunji:
Help me out here because I cannot see the connection between Apple's success and GEJ's policies

^I guess you probably didn't read what you yourself posted:

maclatunji:
Last week, Apple, a knowledge based firm, overtook oil giant ExxonMobil as the world's most valuable company. This vindicates my decision to devote the lion's share of capital allocation to education as well as build more universities. [size=14pt]Why? Because Nigeria has both knowledge and oil and now we see on the world stage that knowledge is more valuable than oil. It follows that if we must build value in Nigeria we must focus on building the knowledge capacity of Nigerians.[/size] GEJ

^I have highlighted the relevant portion for you. That is the connection between Apple (a knowledge-based coy) and his policies.

maclatunji:
Or is he right in broadcasting this as an achievement?

^
What is being broadcast here as an achievement? The paragraph is just elucidating the philosophy behind a certain government policy.

Politics › Re: WARNING ABOUT ECOWAS - Yakubu Gowon Sold Nigeria's Sovereignity by aletheia(m): 11:06am On Aug 14, 2011

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=734983.msg8917055#msg8917055 date=1313265986]I think you can pull it off in West Africa, and it may work out pretty well.[/quote]+
You need to add that ECOWAS is already a fair bit along the way to a common currency. All the Francophone countries except Guinea already have a common currency the "CFA". See Wikipedia on the West African Economic and Monetary Union where this quote occurs: "A September 2002 IMF survey cited the UEMOA as "the furthest along the path toward integration" of all the regional groupings in Africa"
The non-CFA counterpart to the West African Economic and Monetary Union is the West African Monetary Zone.

Formed in 2000, the West African Monetary Zone (WAMZ) is a group of five countries within ECOWAS that plan to introduce a common currency, the Eco, by the year 2015. The WAMZ is largely dominated by Nigeria, due to its status as Africa's largest oil producer and most populous country. All the members of group are English-speaking countries, apart from Guinea, which is Francophone. Along with Mauritania, Guinea opted out of the CFA franc currency shared by all other former French colonies in West and Central Africa.

the WAMZ attempts to establish a strong stable currency to rival the CFA franc, whose exchange rate is tied to that of the Euro and is guaranteed by the French Treasury. The eventual goal is for the CFA franc and Eco to merge, giving all of West and Central Africa a single, stable currency. The launch of the new currency is being developed by the West African Monetary Institute based in Accra, Ghana.

Politics › Re: edit by aletheia(m): 11:35pm On Aug 13, 2011

. . .interesting.

Politics › Re: An Inept Leadership by aletheia(m): 9:05pm On Aug 12, 2011

nuclearboy:
Moral issues - you signed to an agreement. Then you throw it out. Then after you win, you insist that it is in effect for others. The issue is not if he has right to be president - everyone of us has that right. The true issue for me is that after it was thrown out to his advantage, he ought not have raised it again. That is so animal farm.

Oga nuclear, let's not fight over the issue of politicians. You know the bonds between us are stronger than that!

But let me say this. What is at stake here is a PDP matter. . .the relevant portions of their constitution. So wetin concern me with PDP wahala? If you recall, the president has not acted in any way different from how he explained the "zoning" principle in August last year. . .which is that once the President is elected then the other positions are distributed zone-wise. If you are referring to the matter of a constitutional amendment for rotational presidency, then I think we ought to examine the idea on it's merit alone given the acrimonious nature of what transpired late and early this year. Me I personally favor anything that will result in less direct government interference in my life.

nuclearboy:
On privatisation, the dude knew what he planned is my point. Yet he kept supporting privatisation till those words (amidst a myriad of others) got him where he wanted. But then you yourself allude to the deceptiveness when you say "blindsided by him"

Please, I don't get this. Has the FG decided to halt all privatizations? All that was said was that previous ones failed. With the exception of a few they didn't produce jobs or grow into viable companies. Wasn't that the truth? Or is there something I'm missing here.

nuclearboy:
Fine, constitution says every state is to produce a minister. Is he "reforming" that by adding MORE?

But he doesn't have more ministers than his predecessors or does he?

Politics › Re: An Inept Leadership by aletheia(m): 8:46pm On Aug 12, 2011

[quote author=okada_man link=topic=732555.msg8910441#msg8910441 date=1313172481]Aletheia was a GEJ and PDP defender during the elections.
He can deny and spin that fact all he wants but his post history holds more than enough evidence.[/quote]And yet the strongest "evidence" you can put forward is this:

CPC=Fulani ("Hausa" supremacist party. "fower" must return to the "north". We are "born to rule".

Clearly, you 've been busy trawling through my past posts searching for "evidence". I 'm sure you can produce more direct evidence of myself canvassing support for GEJ. Aside from the allusion to Fulani supremacy, if you are honest you will concede that quote is sarcastic in tone and refers to the more tendentious supporters of the "zoning"argument. You failed to also post seal777 that I was responding to in such sarcastic terms:

seal777:
U need to see how those hausas pounced on me requesting for posters and starch for unward pasting.

So you stick to your narrative and must needs grasp at straws to prop up your argument that I was pro-GEJ.

Like I pointed out earlier that one is against Buhari does not mean that he is for GEJ. Such a zero-sum approach to this issue does not cut it at all. After initially being sympathetic towards Buhari (see here reproduced from my blog on NVS), I became opposed to Buhari's candidacy for reasons which I clearly outlined here.

In any case even if hypothetically I supported the incumbent, it's not something to be ashamed or apologetic about. It is my democratic right to support anyone. . .but if you will be honest then you will concede that my post history shows that while I was clearly opposed to Buhari, I was ambivalent towards the duo of GEJ and Ribadu as a post on the same April 15 shows.

aletheia:
Agreed that without electricity, there would be issues. Good thing though is that there seems to be some political will on the part of the Jonathan Administration or a Ribadu Administration to reform the power sector. So we live in hope.

For a summary of my views on the elections see here

[quote author=okada_man link=topic=732555.msg8910441#msg8910441 date=1313172481]If na court we dey, jury go jail am troway the key.[/quote]Case would be thrown out for lack of evidence and an abuse of the court process. grin

[quote author=okada_man link=topic=732555.msg8910441#msg8910441 date=1313172481]. . . anyway, I'm still on a truce. wink

[/quote]So why this sniping at me? cheesy

Politics › Re: An Inept Leadership by aletheia(m): 7:30pm On Aug 12, 2011

^
I understand your angst. Every patriotic Nigerian wants better for the country but we can criticize without being obnoxious to those who disagree with us (I plead guilty as well). It seems that years of military rule have robbed us the courtesies that should characterize civilized and mature political discourse. Having said that, I always follow the principle of weighing all the information at my disposal before commenting or forming an opinion on an issue. . .but the problem is that all too often we Nigerians react to rumor and innuendo and first impressions that are often wrong. And even after the first impressions are shown to be wrong we still hold on to it despite the evidence.

To your specific charges:

nuclearboy:
Last "thing" only - "zoning" was scrapped because he wanted the party ticket. After he got it, zoning again existed - "animal farm" style Napoleon?

There is a moral issue here and I wonder what that inteprets to in the psyche of 150million Nigerians.

Firstly what moral issue? A VP succeeds his departed president? This is politics and I wonder why you are getting hot under the collar about it. Was the Nigerian constitution breached in any way? Even the relevant portion of the PDP constitution is quite ambiguous with respect to zoning. . .the principle of which is rotation and distribution of positions. So based on that argument, why shouldn't a SS man become president?

Based on my reading of the situation, I would say that most Nigerians were probably not against the issue of zoning per se. . .what turned most people off was the arrogance with which certain elements pursued it and the fact that the frontrunners seeking to benefit from the "zoning" were exactly the people that contributed to the morass that Nigeria currently finds itself in. Certainly given a choice between Babangida/Gusau/Atiku/Buhari and Jonathan who did you think most Nigerians would choose?

nuclearboy:
I just wonder if Nigeria does not deserve better than this -

Do we deserve better than this? It is said that people always get the leaders they deserve. A profound statement of Churchill is: "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." The nature of democracy is such that:
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."
Alexis de Tocqueville
Until we Nigerians get off our lazy backsides and stop allowing others to use religion and ethnicity to manipulate us for their selfish ends, we will continue to do less well than we ought to but then again as Churchill puts it: “The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.”

nuclearboy:
"we know" who was responsible for the Oct 1 blasts until "some" people stopped their campaigns and threw weight behind "we" - I may be wrong but I see that as using human lives as bargaining tools.

As I recall all the President said was to paraphrase:"Those responsible for the October 1 bombings were not MEND even though claiming to be MEND" And BTW since the Okah brothers were taken out of circulation, have you heard any thing further from MEND. And he would know since he was personally and directly involved in the ND amnesty program meeting with militants one on one and building rapport with them to convince them to lay down their weapons.
With all due apologies I think you are only repeating hearsay.

nuclearboy:
"Rome" is on fire but the emperor wants entertainment and sees tenure elongation as priority

^
The President is not a Prime Minister. I suspect most Nigerians expect a Prime Minister. The President has set the overall direction of policy and appointed ministers too undertake it. Will power sector reform be undertaken in a day? Or jobs created by executive fiat? While these are being tackled, should the President not undertake constitutional reforms as he sees fit? Come now, I think you should be fair.
I will not commend further on the proposed amendments until I see them and study the details. Most commentators and the Opposition parties still do not understand the M.O. and sleight of hand of this president. . .which is why they are usually blind-sided by the president.

nuclearboy:
Privatisation has "failed"? Why after the election?

How is this a failing? Methinks you are being just a bit emotional here. Or was he not telling the truth? Where is Nigeria Airways that became Virgin Nigerian? Why is Nitel a failed entity? The list goes on. Privatization was supposed to create jobs. Where are the jobs? Instead we see El-Rufai in BPE and Atiku selling off government parastatals to their cronies who engaged in assets stripping. Remember Pentascope?

nuclearboy:
A "streamlined government" has become more minstries, PAs, SPAs, and hanger ons.

And yet you are against constitutional reform. . .the same constitution that stupidly says every state and Geopolitical zone must produce a Minister making a minimum of 36. See why you can't eat your cake and have it? As far as I am concerned constitutional amendment is a priority. We must begin to debate government policies on their merit rather seeing them through the prism of our dislike or like of the originator. Cynicism is not productive and often leads us to throw the baby away with the bath water.

nuclearboy:
"foreign accounts" now acceptable? NOW?

^
This was supposedly "leaked" from the presidency? lipsrsealed

Speculation and misdirection as far as I am concerned. . .designed to make us take our minds of other things. Until I see the proposed amendment before I 'll believe it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Violent Christians,"turn-the-cheek" Pretenders Burning London And Other Cities by aletheia(m): 6:24pm On Aug 12, 2011

vedaxcool:
the bolded has been refuted here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-487580.0.html , the remaining garbage you wrote has long been refuted since the bible claims God can never be tempted, yet Jesus was carried by Satan and was tempted for 40 days.

^
Refute away all you want. The god of this world holds you in thrall and you will never understand the Mystery of God Incarnate unless the Holy Spirit gives you let. May God the Father of the Lord Jesus have mercy on you!

On that Great Day false prophet Mohammed himself will have no time for you for he himself will be pleading for mercy to no avail!
(Rev 19:20 [KJV])
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

You are now without excuse:

aletheia:
Jesus is Lord. Jesus is the Son of God. Jesus is God! I say to you: Unless you believe that Jesus is He, you shall surely perish in your sins. Repent!

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