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Politics › Re: Go To Channel Tv Now! - evidence of rigging being revealed by aletheia(m): 7:27pm On Apr 11, 2011

GenBuhari:
http://www.youtube.com/user/channelsweb

Free and Fair elections indeed!

Returning officer in Anambra state was threaten with his life unless he declares in favour of ~~PDP~~ APGA

At this time his whereabouts is unknown.

God Bless Nigeria

^Don't be an id*ot. Stop spreading lies. The returning officer did not mention PDP in what he said. Frustration will kill you come Saturday when PDP wins with a landslide.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 5:31pm On Apr 11, 2011

EPOMA:
For Buhari, I know that he paid up Nigerian debt in 1 year,

^Stop peddling rumors and trying to rewrite history. Buhari did not pay off any Nigerian debt. He defaulted and worsened our debt profile. Do some research.

EPOMA:
made sure that all the essential commodities in the warehouses were brought out and sold to the public.

^And bankrupted many Nigerian business men in the process; further worsening the economic situation.

EPOMA:
I can continue.

^Please don't continue. . .Not until you research the history of those terrible days some more.

EPOMA:
I dont want my country to continue having the worst first lady ever as we do now.

^Both you and Buhari are playing to the gallery. The is no office of First Lady to scrap because it is not in the constitution or Law anywhere. If this is the reason you are against the president, you really had nothing to say.

Politics › Re: The Truth Must Be Told Ndigbo by aletheia(m): 4:18pm On Apr 11, 2011

sbeezy8:
look anytime I see sambo I dont see GEJ's vice I see someone who only in line ccause hes knows hes suppose to be president in 2015. He even look like the president

It is widely rumored in the north that Sambo's father is an Auchi man which partly accounts for his lack of acceptance in the core North. Unconfirmed though.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 9:13am On Apr 11, 2011

^*Yawn* "Intellectually flogged" Another favorite Sagamoron word. My, isn't your vocabulary rather limited? Is your brain oozing yet from your ears as it overheats and goes into meltdown. What a silly child, you are.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 9:03am On Apr 11, 2011

Sagamite:
You surely are reetarded!

^^There. Did I not say so. Your brain is already in meltdown mode. . .already manifesting it's limited vocabulary. You are surely "reetarded". How long before you start frothing at the mouth and chewing your tongue, I wonder. "Mooron." I don't have time for your temper tantrums, little boy. Did mummy take away your toys? Is that why you about embarking on your characteristic hissy fits. Grow up little boy. Adults are discussing. If you want me to take you serious, behave like one.

Oh and BTW; you insulted me by responding to my post.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 8:41am On Apr 11, 2011

Sagamite:
What achievement?
By being appointed houseboy by others?
By Turai stopping in choking him and giving him permission to rule after SNG fought for him?
Please list his achievement. I wait.
Wait, you forgot to list the reason why there was so much demand for dollars to the point we lost so much in the value of our FR.
Why did the CBN have to prop up the Naira? Because of GEJ's economic management?

^^Sour grapes. You actually have nothing of importance to say to me. Now let's hear you debouch to your usual limited vocabulary of "*mo*ron, *re*tard, silverback gorilla" etc, because of your severe intellectual handicap that makes it difficult for you to process intelligent discourse thus resulting in the short-circuiting of your brain neurons. An affliction that perennially manifests in your uncouth and loutish behavior.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 1:19am On Apr 11, 2011

BetaThings:
We note that Jonathan has been pillaging the foreign reserve and excess crude account in a period of high oil receipts
5 presidential jest, 137 aides etc, the man is lucky, Nigeria is sadly in trouble

Part of the problem with Nigeria is that people make decisions and argue based on emotions and zero knowledge. Partly why the failure rate is so high in NECO/WAEC.

1) The Foreign Reserve is managed by the CBN. The FG cannot dip its hands into it. . .unless of course it is a military government like that of you know who.
2) Part of the decline in the FR is because the CBN has been propping up the value of the Naira which is threatening to drop because of excessive dollar demand. If it drops, you will be one of the idiots blaming the FG for allowing the Naira to depreciate.
3) The excess crude account is unconstitutional; a situation the FG is trying to remedy by passing a bill establishing the Sovereign Wealth Fund that will lock in excess earnings for future generations. If we had such in place in the past; our $12b dollar Gulf-War windfall would not have disappeared under Babangida.
4) The presidential jets belong to Nigeria not GEJ. You are really being silly listing this as a reason for depletion of the FR. Shows you don't know what your talking about. The jets were duly appropriated for.
5) Get an education and acquaint yourself with facts so that you can argue intelligently.

Politics › Re: But For Buhari/tinubu, Nigeria Would Have Become One-party State by aletheia(m): 12:59am On Apr 11, 2011

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=643468.msg8097665#msg8097665 date=1302478418]Apart from money, Buhari left ANPP to form CPC not too long ago, I think his popularity has more to do with Buhari himself than with his political party or structure, It will take time to form structires. I stand corrected, I don't think CPC has ever contested any election until yesterday.[/quote]^^So remove Buhari. And CPC withers and dies. What a lot of BB supporters don't realize is that CPC has actually been subtly hijacked from Buhari. Two critical decisions made by Buhari suggest so.

1) The decision to deny Mike Ahamba, the party chairmanship. A decision that so embittered Ahamba to the point that he resigned from the party. Now note that Ahamba has been loyal to Buhari, standing with him through thick and thin. When you read Buhari's rationalization of that decision; you immediately realize that something did not add up. Nigeria's politics is built on the tripod of appeasing the three major tribes. If Ahamba was chairman of CPC; it would have given the CPC a high-profile Igbo face and given it a fighting chance in the SE. Tony Momoh was selected as CPC party chairman based on the calculation that he will serve as a "counterweight" to GEJ in the SS. Really? Does anyone actually think that will persuade the SS to vote for CPC.

2) By choosing Tunde Bakare as running mate. Bakare is not going to increase CPC's vote tally anywhere in the SW. Strategic mistake. In selecting your running mate, you chose a loyal party man (as ACN did) that can add votes to your ticket. Bakare is an outsider; someone without a power base in the CPC structure. I daresay a number of CPC stalwarts would have been disappointed by the choosing of an outsider as their presidential running mate.

The more astute will realize that these two key decisions have in effect served to isolate Buhari within his own party, while presenting an appearance of "unity". By pushing out of the party a key loyalist of Buhari that could have won him votes in the SE and pairing him with an outsider that will not win him much votes in the key battleground SW states.
Note that Buhari made this grievous errors of judgement based on advice he received from a coterie of advisors around him. Who are these advisors? A bevy of ex-PDP and ANPP politicians (some of whom I suspect are actually moles). This is a classic strategem. For example in the Bible, David sent a trusted advisor Hushai into Absalom's camp to counter any sound advise given by Ahitophel.

General Buhari's rigidity makes it easy for him to be manipulated by those around him, once you can win his trust.

Politics › Re: But For Buhari/tinubu, Nigeria Would Have Become One-party State by aletheia(m): 12:36am On Apr 11, 2011

Kobojunkie:
When I read some of the analysis on this election, I wonder if we are speaking of the very same Nigeria, or some new fantastical entity.

^^Please do stop arguing with yourself. Are you not one of those who:

Kobojunkie:
want a party of a handful to sweep the nation -- to fight and win against parties with more than one established politician?

And did you not:

Kobojunkie:
expect CPC to take it all in less than 6 months of it's existence? How?

fstranger3:
^^^

Never fails to change the direction of the argument

^^You are so right! grin

It's called cognitive dissonance.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 12:07am On Apr 11, 2011

Eziachi:
I hate AGIP group of people going around every election from 1960 till now telling us how a less average guy is now our new socrates just because he happens to hold power and the treasury.

^Are you being a hypocrite? And the former PDP and ANPP criminals hovering around your "messianic" General Buhari who is clueless are what? The "saints" that will deliver Nigeria? How pitifully naive you are. Oh and BTW the less than average guy has accomplished more than you will ever accomplish. At least he's the president of a nation of 150 million people and you are the president of what. . .?

Eziachi:
I hate people telling me that a copper is now a gold just because its their's.

And I hate you telling me that Buhari will repair this country; when he was the one that set in train the series of events that wrecked Nigeria's second Republic.

Politics › Re: But For Buhari/tinubu, Nigeria Would Have Become One-party State by aletheia(m): 11:58pm On Apr 10, 2011

^^@Jarus: no one is saying GEJ will win in Kano. Because that is what you are arguing in the post above. I doubt if any of GEJ's most fanatic supporters believes that he will win in the NW.

The pattern we see in Kano is being replicated in Jigawa, Zamfara, Borno, Yobe, Nasarawa: all places we were led to believe are nigh impregnable CPC strongholds. Even your home state went PDP. What is the use of having a "popular" presidential candidate if it does not translate into victories for his party's national assembly candidates?

So CPC won 5, so far. Do you think they will win up to 12 in a 109 member chamber? What this translates to is that CPC is a regional party on the level of APGA. Even Labor party, a one-state party has 3 senators-elect. This is not a good sign for the Buhari campaign. At least one would have expected that Buhari's halo would have rubbed off on a significant proportion of his parties candidates. For example in the US, a lot of democratic party candidates rode on Obama's coattails into office. Why is this not the case in Buhari's own instance? After all, CPC is Buhari. It would appear that PDP's targeting of grassroots votes in the North is really damaging CPC because the question must be asked: why are the crowds we see at CPC rallies not voting for CPC candidates? Even if we set aside Kano as a special case

We cannot gloss over this question because General Buhari did ask his supporters to vote for CPC candidates in the NASS elections so that he will be able to have a NASS he can work with if he wins the presidency.

I believe this result actually confirms the naivety of the Buhari campaign organization: which failed to realize a primal law of modern party politics; The party with grassroots structures tends to do better than the one without. Personal popularity can only carry your party so far. Houses are built from the ground up, not roof down. Apparently CPC is trying to build a political structure from the head down. A strategy that was obviously doomed to fail.

Politics › Re: But For Buhari/tinubu, Nigeria Would Have Become One-party State by aletheia(m): 11:20pm On Apr 10, 2011

^^As you rightly pointed out; the nature of parliamentary elections is different from the presidential elections. Have you considered the proportion of votes cast for each party in these elections? For example, in Ogun state you will realize that the factionalization of PDP into PDP/PPN was what actually gave ACN the victory there as the combined PDP/PPN votes outweighed the ACN. So don't be too sure that Ribadu will outperform GEJ in the SW.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 11:14pm On Apr 10, 2011

reindeer:
Thank you for this. Many people become amnesic when tribal sentiments are in play. Half of those worshipping GEJ now won't be here if he was from the north.

^What tribal sentiments? Is Jonathan Hausa, Yoruba or Igbo? Both you and Eziachi are talking rubbish because of bitterness in your hearts at the president. Most of the people supporting Jonathan are not even Ijaw, so what tribal sentiments are you talking? If you guys don't have anything sensible to contribute, why don't you shut up?

Politics › Re: But For Buhari/tinubu, Nigeria Would Have Become One-party State by aletheia(m): 11:00pm On Apr 10, 2011

Kobojunkie:
^^^ Not, she cannot be right! @Jarus and co. have NOT been campaigning for CPC . . . any regular nairalander here would have noticed this-- BB group has been campaigning for Buhari/Bakare ticket, and NOT the entire CPC senate candidates, or even the CPC Governorship Candidates. You only need to go to the groups report thread to realize how obvious this is.

ROFLMAO!!

Oh please. Try again. "Not been campaigning for the CPC"? This is rich coming from those that were trying to make this elections about parties (PDP vs. CPC vs. ACN); Only to now come and tell us that it's not the parties but the "individual". Good grief you are morphing into Beaf, who's all this while insisted that the election is about individuals not parties. To borrow your well-worn cliched phrase: ROFLMAO!!

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 10:54pm On Apr 10, 2011

Eziachi:
I would love a scenario where Mr Jonathan not as Mr president, Mr governor, Mr senator, Mr minister or any other Mr public money guzzler at all but just Mr Jonathan, to form his own political in Bayelsa.

^^Sour grapes. He's in the PDP; he doesn't need to form his own party. The man that formed his own party; how many senate seats does his party have following the NASS elections upon all the "crowds". Please. We all know what your angle is. You are vehemently convinced that GEJ as president in 2011 will prevent an Igbo man as president in 2015. "Zoning" must die in Nigeria so that the best whether Igbo or Yoruba or Hausa or Southern or Northern minority can be president. Stop waiting for people to hand Ndi-Igbo the presidency on a platter called "zoning".

Politics › Re: Updated 2011 Election Result Projection Model by aletheia(m): 10:33pm On Apr 10, 2011

*Yawn* You are not saying anything of importance to me just rehashing old arguments. Allowing a merit based system favors all including the minorities as cream always rises to the top. Some of the most successful Nigerians are not from any of the 3 major tribes. Zoning is a system designed to disenfranchise the minorities. If zoning as you say is responsible for GEJ's emergence as President then why the hue and cry from your cousins in the North about being denied the Presidency? Why can't they wait for an Igbo man to be president before demanding that the Presidency rotates to them. . .unless of course, there's something they are not telling us or a hidden agenda. It is nothing but deceit and hypocrisy. Spin it however you want; we all know that GEJ's emergence was an Act of God and nothing to do with zoning. I repeat: Your so-called "largest" tribe of Hausa (+Fulani) numbers not more than 30% of the entire Nigerian Population. If the remaining Nigerians (Yorubas + Igbos + Nothern minorities + Southern minorities) get together and decide not to vote for any Hausa man as president, case closed. Zoning is designed to prevent that eventuality (which happened on June 12, 1993---hence the annulment of the election through the Hausa-dominated Military government).

Now go away. Or contribute something pertinent to the purpose of this thread.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 10:18pm On Apr 10, 2011

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 10:15pm On Apr 10, 2011

Eziachi:
Ok, thanks for telling, now tell me how many did they lose? Then do the maths. Your findings next!

My friend, I am not interested in one-upmanship or point scoring or having the last word. Just pointing out your erroneous claim that PDP did not make any gains any where.
[quote author=Eziachi on Today at 09:53:25 PM]but did not gain any from anybody[/quote]Please act your age and stop spoiling for a quarrel with me. grin

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 9:56pm On Apr 10, 2011

Eziachi:
but did not gain any from anybody

^^Err, they actually gained seats in Borno and Kano.

Politics › Re: But For Buhari/tinubu, Nigeria Would Have Become One-party State by aletheia(m): 9:42pm On Apr 10, 2011

The OP is just trying to put a spin on the rather disappointing performance of the CPC in the NASS elections. On this forum; Jarus and his cohort have tried to convince us that CPC was an unstoppable tsunami sweeping out of the NW, clearing all PDP structures before it to finally berth in Lagos. Now that the dust of the NASS elections is settling, with both PDP and ACN outperforming CPC even in perceived CPC strongholds (and confirming a fundamental law of politics; it is parties with structures on the ground that win elections); the shock to his system is making him elevate Buhari and Tinubu to the pantheon of Nigeria's heroes of democracy.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 9:23pm On Apr 10, 2011

Nicklee:
Now I know why results were delayed till now. This is the so called free and fair elections, right? People queue up and vote, then Jega and his group decide to withhold results announcements until they have added all the additional zeros that they have been paid to add.

I knew the celebration yesterday was too soon. Nigeria couldn't have changed all of a sudden,

^^Please. This sounds like sour grapes. Jega put in a place a process that ensures transparency of the results. because you are in the US and did not vote, you don't know this. Votes were counted at each polling unit, and declared on the spot after counting. The results are recorded on the official INEC result sheet and the party agents append their signatures to authenticate the result. Any alteration of the results will be easy to detect and challenge at the collation centers. Of course in a few places like Anambra Central, some bad eggs will want to play smart, but the delay we are witnessing there is due to the ease with which any alteration can be detected.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 9:17pm On Apr 10, 2011

Wadeoye:
I have said this before that PDP is on the verge of becoming a minortiy party.

^^The results show PDP maintaining a majority in the NASS

Wadeoye:
Leave those guys alone - they are myopic. They say CPC in few states in the north even when CPC is defeating PDP in FCT, Niger, Nasarawa, etc not to even talk of the core north.

^^Are Kano and Jigawa no more core North; PDP trounced CPC in these places.

Wadeoye:
Let them do whatever they like, next week Nigerians will chose who they have as their president - that is our focus. Of course we supporters of CPC would have loved for CPC to clear all the seats in the two houses but are all those contesting for the various legislative seats as popular in their constituencies? The answer is no.

In Lagos here for example, we don't even know the guys contesting under CPC - definitely a new party will face this problem but not at the presidency because while other local contestants my not be known by people, Buhari is know across the country.

^^See as you are just waffling all over the place. Now you are making excuses after boasting all over the place.

Politics › Re: Ruling Party In Desperate Bid To Alter Vote Tallies In Imo,Akwa -ibom,Delta,Benue And Adamawa by aletheia(m): 9:03pm On Apr 10, 2011

9ijaMan:
Why are you this crass? How about the use of donkeys and camels?

^^You can add that as well. They are very much in use in that part of the country. You need to travel around Nigeria some more.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 8:19pm On Apr 10, 2011

mrjingles:
whether we like it or not defeating PDP will take TIME (assuming the party doesn't react to these results by improving) It is the ONLY party with an office in EVERY local government in Nigeria! That kind of grassroots reach will take some beating. For me once the election is free and fair then even a PDP win is acceptable. I don't believe it MUST be party A or B, people want to feel respected as citizens and to know hey have a say even if the majority may have their way.

^^You 've been objective unlike some rather emotional individuals on this forum that have interpreted losses in some constituencies as a rout of the ruling PDP; allowing their dislike of the party to cloud all objectivity.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 8:12pm On Apr 10, 2011

It would appear that rumors of PDP's demise have been exaggerated after all:

ABUJA, April 10 (Reuters) - Below is a table of the latest
results from constituencies declared in Nigeria's national
assembly elections.

The figures show the number of seats won by party, the
percentage of constituencies declared so far that represents,
and the percentage of seats each party held in the outgoing
parliament.

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Number of Percentage of Outgoing

seats won those declared parliament (%)

PDP 53 48 77

CPC 11 10 -

ACN 36 32 7

ANPP 8 7 15

APGA 2 2 one seat

Labour two seats

Other 1 1 one seat

Number of constituencies declared: 111

* No voting took place in around a tenth of the 360 House of
Representatives constituencies because of organisational delays.

SENATE

Number of Percentage of Outgoing

seats won those declared parliament (%)

PDP 16 55 85

CPC 1 3 1

ACN 11 38 6

ANPP 7

APGA -

Labour -

Other

http://af.reuters.com/article/nigeriaNews/idAFLDE7390E820110410

Politics › Re: Ruling Party In Desperate Bid To Alter Vote Tallies In Imo,Akwa -ibom,Delta,Benue And Adamawa by aletheia(m): 8:02pm On Apr 10, 2011

9ijaMan:
How come INEC has hurriedly released figures in the SW states and all the states PDP is expected to win. The results from the major core northern states are still very sparse. Something fishy is happening o! PDP rigging machine has been set in motion!

^^See your life. When we tell you people to educate yourself about your country; you won't. The distances in the North are huge as you can see from the maps. It takes longer to collate results from more remote areas, for example in some parts of Borno, election materials were transported using horses.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 7:55pm On Apr 10, 2011

JIGAWA: PDP in clean sweep of Jigawa State’s House of Reps elections

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5688444-146/election_results_live_updates__.csp

Politics › Re: Outcome Of Presidential Election: What Do You Expect? by aletheia(m): 7:49pm On Apr 10, 2011

9ijaMan:
the run-off will likely be between CPC and ACN.

^^This will not happen. Wake up. There will be no runoff. Mark my words!

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 7:38pm On Apr 10, 2011

ziccoit:
You forgot I stated that majority didn't come out.

^Nigerians like to pontificate without information. Official estimates of voter turnout is 75%. That is a majority in my book.

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 5:31pm On Apr 10, 2011

tuco02:
the issue is most northerners voted for candidates at d national assembly level not party, trust me nxt week will b a lot different. and most northers did not turn up yesterday they are waiting for Saturday's pres elections, mark my words it will b a entire different ball game come sat

^^You are missing the point. The CPC told its supporters to vote for CPC candidates in all elective positions because they said Buhari needs members of his party in the National assembly as a majority in order to be able to perform effectively. What happened in Kano? At least CPC should have done better in Kano. Not so?

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 5:15pm On Apr 10, 2011

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=641981.msg8094747#msg8094747 date=1302451666]Jarus: What information (if any) do you have on Kwara and Benue?[/quote]^^

KWARA: PDP candidates win all three senatorial districts and five House of Reps seats.

ENUGU: Deputy senate president, Ike Ekweremadu and senate spokesman, Ayogu Eze, both of PDP, win poll.

BENUE: Barnabas Gemade of PDP defeats incumbent, Joseph Akaagerger, of the ACN to win Benue North East senatorial race.

RIVERS: PDP wins all three senatorial elections in Rivers State

KOGI: Smart Adeyemi (PDP) gets 84,511 votes to win Kogi West Senatorial Districts ahead of Joseph Faniyi of the CPC

OYO: Olufemi Lanlehin (ACN) defeats incumbent Kamarudeen Adedibu (PDP) in Oyo South Senatorial District

KANO: Unconfirmed results shows the PDP winning two senatorial seats and 11 House of Reps seats. The ANPP wins 8 House of Rep seats while CPC wins 2

^^I hope the BB group realize that rally crowds do not necessarily vote.

Source:http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5688444-146/election_results_live_updates__.csp

Politics › Re: National Assembly Elections, Saturday 9th April, 2011 by aletheia(m): 3:14pm On Apr 10, 2011

It would appear that rumors of PDP's demise have been greatly exaggerated: PDP wins all 3 senate seats in Kwara: wink

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5688444-146/election_results_live_updates__.csp

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