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whitecloth:
This statement says a lot about you.
Seriously speaking.

Dude think he's playing 'Call of duty' on his PlayStation.

Dem analysts thought op was psychologically healthy, hence the bickering. I knew all the time that he was out of touch with reality

LeOstrich:
Your Saudi clerics are already shitting in their pants and are calling for Jihad volunteers and you are here downgrading the ongoing events.

Obama is obviously incapable of selling the idea to the US populace why he needs to send troops to defend ISIS and Saudi Arabia.

Dey there dey play the ostrich!

If you feel this thread is mere rantings from a mad man then why do you not simply unfollow?

It is that easy.

You can watch the great war unfold on CNN.

AS FOR ME, I AM JUST GLAD TO BE LIVING IN THESE TIMES OF WAR!

You won't just live it. You would soon be a part of it- Judging by your zeal a suicide-bomber role fits you best. Talk is cheap joor.

I hereby unfollow your pathetic, warmongering and fact-free thread. You can now rest in peace.

LeOstrich:
A conflict involving Russia , China and Iran (the 2nd, 3rd and 5th powerful military nations respectively) on one side vs US, NATO, Arab gulf states and their proxy armies on the other and you call it insignificant?

In case you havent heard, your rebel fighters in Syria have called for assistance from their fellow arab nations to join in the fight and a bunch of Saudi clerics just yesterday issued a fatwa on Russia declaring their presence in syria as a crusade and have since made a call for jihad to all moslems to come fight the good fight.

for source on this see the post directly above yours.

My only question to you, is when are you going to join the jihad to save Saudi Arabia from Vladmir Putin?

Dude, is your head hot or somethingDo I seem interested in your 'fantasy wars'?....Abeg put your head inside refrigerator and get back your cool.

.....Always asking peeps who differ from him in opinion on when they would join a Jihad in his dreams. Check it please. You are now sounding like a deranged conscriptor. Are you in any way related to one Nnamdi Kanu?

I am with the feminazis on this one.

F'ck you wife-beater . Is your wife your WWE challenge

Last time I checked, even animals have rights........Thou shall not muzzle an ox while it.....bla bla bla.

LeOstrich:
keep spewing trash

it suits your shilling personality

derailing fool

what your almighty amerifats could not achieve in one year, Russia is doing in hours



continue reading from here http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/609680/Islamic-State-ISIS-Russian-bombing-terror-Syria-Caliphate-defeat

le ediot

So what next? You expect me to come down to your level and bandy cheap words with you?....You dialed the wrong number, dude.

And by the way, what's 'Amerifat'?....How did you know that I'm an American citizen? Did You consult Ifa? Or did I in any way sound Americanophile? Oga, I am a Nigerian and Nigerian issues command my utmost interest. American/Russian interests are best handled by Americans/Russians.

Finally, I don't agree with your thread's title, and I don't think that makes me a derailer. Also, It doesn't look attractive that you can't deal with differing opinions. That is your problem tho'. A world war involves military combat between influential countries, as well as their allies. Right now, the only current event relating to the above is Russian warplanes bombing through ISIS-held territories. Any beef between the US and Russia is still in the Cold-war level.

So boy, Earth got no big problem. The only problem I see here is that you need more manners and less warmongering in your life.

LeOstrich:
you just succeeded in spewing trash

congrats

Of course you are right. I could have saved myself the initial stress by avoiding your $hitty thread like Ebola in the first place.

Now that I have proved you right, can you run off to Atlanta and tell CNN crew that they missed out on a major attention-grabbing headline? Show them the title of your thread when they ask you what they are missing.

Dude must have been feeling like he has made an important scientific invention.

Can't believe I followed this thread to page 4......Halimi, thanks for the laughs. You'd make a career in comedy. With you, 'humour' and 'trouble' comes in the same sentence.

Nl's celebrities, where una dey?? Come in and crush this troublesome gnat in one swat, if you can

Op, you stated the obvious without proffering solutions.... what makes this thread different from the Biblical book of Lamentions?

Giant bull$hit everywhere. Now everyone seems to be a military analyst. How about you guys storming into the real battlefield with a rifle and a full kit........I can personally ensure you last a bit longer than other privates by arming you with an invisibility suit. Nonsense.

And op, going by the title of your thread, why hesitate on writing the 67th chapter of the Bible You can name it 'The Apocalypse according to St. LeoOstrich'.

Too much 'Call Of Duty'.

Study this man eagerly, and you would have no need for Robert Greene's '48 laws of power'. Guts, Strength and Stealth wonderfully combined in one person. Not forgetting his annoying cool-headness.

Nevertheless, like an over pampered child, Putin is beginning to show the side-effects of too much affection- rashness in action. This growing fault has telltale signs already on his mastery of the World's political chess board. Syria is Assad's problem, and strictly Assad's. Rather than act Big Brother, a role which had fetched the United States so much hate, he could have just aided Assad with both military hardware as well as human wares COVERTLY. A clever political manoeuvre is all that is needed to undermine everything that the lion of Moscow has fought for. Simply capitalize on his actions in Ukraine and label his troops' presence in Syria as another act of territorial expansionism in the making. Of course the employer of this argument would make it more enchanting and elaborate than it is here.

Another one is that the Israelis might be used as a stalking horse to nibble at Russia's might till they are weak enough to be crushed by the U.S. without fear of much retaliatory damage. Either way, Putin needs to know that his troops' presence in Syria might be enough mistake. Further foreign policies should be well thought over before implementation, else he gets labeled as the 'Reincarnation of Adolf Hitler', and suffers a similar fate like the Fuhrer's.

Anyways, my opinion doesn't count.........For what do I even know?

sulmeza:
wich presidential wrath...go slip jare.....a little joke bouh him's not gonna do him any harm..

I still dey exchange words with you Na jail go talk to you next.

sulmeza:
u shud try to see d humour in dah...no be everytin person dey take serious....

So your President don be like wetin you fit use catch fun

E go soon gas for una head. Keep inviting Presidential wrath upon yourself.

Ben is a perfect example of a Howling Howler.

......Nobody now believes in a set of opportunists who hijack scriptural writings and employ them as justification for rendering their neighbours homeless. They can go back in time to Bible days if they insist on their expansionist greed. The United Nations respects the sovereignty of each member-state and unequivocally condemns the violation of such right.

Ben is discreet anyway. He can't intercept Iran's transit of weapons to Lebanon because of growing Russian presence in the region. He actually knows that if he tries anything, then he would invite more than he can welcome.

I seriously wish to see this so-called God's own country humiliated, once they f'ck up. Israel is surviving on scams.

@ first pix......for the first time since I knew him Korede looked like a nigga. I hate it when a guy looks like a sissy. Nice improvement tho'.

His throwback pictures and the 1969-Biafran malnourished kid have something in common.

Half of Nigerian bloggers don't know what "grab" means. Quote Me anywhere.

Read!!!.....Our students swear say they no go ever read.

The whites surely knew what they were doing when they placed only one 9ja university in World's top 800.

rexbuton:
Not one of the apocryphal are written
in the Hebrew language (the Old Testament
was written in Hebrew). All Apocryphal
books are in Greek, except one which is
extant only in Latin.
2. None of the apocryphal writers laid claim
to inspiration.
3. The apocryphal books were never
acknowledged as sacred scriptures by the
Jews, custodians of the Hebrew scriptures
(the apocrypha was written prior to the
New Testament). In fact, the Jewish people
rejected and destroyed the apocrypha after
the overthow of Jerusalem in 70 A.D.
4. The apocryphal books were not permitted
among the sacred books during the first
four centuries of the real Christian church

5. The Apocrypha contains fabulous
statements which not only contradict the
"canonical" scriptures but themselves. For
example, in the two Books of Maccabees,
Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three
different deaths in three different places.
6. The Apocrypha includes doctrines in
variance with the Bible, such as prayers for
the dead and sinless perfection. The
following verses are taken from the
Apocrypha translation by Ronald Knox
dated 1954:
Basis for the doctrine of purgatory:
2 Maccabees 12:43-45, 2.000 pieces
of silver were sent to Jerusalem for
a sin-offering...Whereupon he made
reconciliation for the dead, that they
might be delivered from sin.
Salvation by works:
Ecclesiasticus 3:30, Water will
quench a flaming fire, and alms
maketh atonement for sin.
Tobit 12:8-9, 17, It is better to give
alms than to lay up gold; for alms
doth deliver from death, and shall
purge away all sin.
Magic:
Tobit 6:5-8, If the Devil, or an evil
spirit troubles anyone, they can be
driven away by making a smoke of
the heart, liver, and gall of a
fish...and the Devil will smell it, and
flee away, and never come again
anymore.
Mary was born sinless (immaculate
conception):
Wisdom 8:19-20, And I was a witty
child and had received a good soul.
And whereas I was more good, I
came to a body undefiled.
7. It teaches immoral practices, such as
lying, suicide, assassination and magical
incantation.
8. No apocryphal book is referred to in the
New Testament whereas the Old Testament
is referred to hundreds of times.
9. Because of these and other reasons, the
apocryphal books are only valuable as
ancient documents illustrative of the
manners, language, opinions and history of
the East.
The King James translators never considered the
Apocrypha the word of God. As books of some
historical value (e.g., details of the Maccabean
revolt), the Apocrypha was sandwiched between
the Old and New Testaments as an appendix of
reference material. This followed the format that
Luther had used. Luther prefaced the Apocrypha
with a statement:
"Apocrypha--that is, books which are not
regarded as equal to the holy Scriputres,
and yet are profitable and good to read."
King James Version Defended page 98.
In 1599, TWELVE YEARS BEFORE the King James
Bible was published, King James himself said this
about the Apocrypha:
"As to the Apocriphe bookes, I OMIT THEM
because I am no Papist (as I said before)
..."
King James Charles Stewart
Basilicon Doron, page 13
In his, "A Premonition to All Most Mightie
Monarches," --found in his Workes (a collection of
the king's writings)--King James said this--
"...Is it a small corrupting of the Scriptures
to make all, or the most part of the
Apocrypha of equall faith with the
canonicall Scriptures...?"
Not only this, but the sixth article of the Thirty-
nine Articles of the Church of England (1571
edition. The Church of England published the
Authorized King James Version) states that
(1) the Old and New Testaments are the Bible--
In the name of the Holy, we do vnderstande
those canonical bookes of the olde and
newe Testament, of whose authoritie was
never any doubt in the Churche...
(2) the apocrypha is not the Bible--
And the other bookes, (as Hierome sayeth),
the Churche doth reade for example of life
and instruction of manners: but yet doth it
not applie them to establish any doctrene.
Philip Schaff, Creeds of Christendom. Grand
Rapids: Baker Book House, 1977, Vol. III,
pp. 489-491.
The Hampton Court Document came as a result of
the famous Hampton Court Conference of 1604
when King James specially commanded the
translation of the Bible that would one day bear
his name. Concerning the apocrypha and the
Church of England, it states--
The Apocrypha , that hath some repugnancy
to the canonical scriptures, shall not be
read...
Select Statutes and Other Constitutional
Documents Illustrative of the Reigns of
Elizabeth and James I,
edited by G.W. Prothero, Fellow of King's
College, Cambridge, 1894, p. 416
The Apocrypha began to be omitted from the
Authorized Version in 1629. Puritans and
Presbyterians lobbied for the complete removal of
the Apocrypha from the Bible and in 1825 the
British and Foreign Bible Society agreed. From
that time on, the Apocrypha has been eliminated
from practically all English Bibles--Catholic Bibles
and some pulpit Bibles excepted.
Not even all Catholic "Church Fathers" believed
the Apocrypha was scripture.
Not that this really means anything. The truth is
not validated by the false. Nevertheless, this may
be of interest to some... Jerome (340-420)
rejected the Apocrypha:
"As the Church reads the books of Judith
and Tobit and Maccabees but does not
receive them among the canonical
Scriptures, so also it reads Wisdom and
Ecclesiasticus for the edification of the
people, not for the authoritative
confirmation of doctrine."
Jerome
Jerome's preface to the books of Solomon
According to Edward Hills in The King James
Version Defended p. 98 other famous Catholics
with this viewpoint include Augustine (354-430
who at first defended the Apocrypha as canonical)
, Pope Gregory the Great (540-604), Cardinal
Ximenes, and Cardinal Cajetan.
There are other spurious books.
These include the Pseudepigrapha which contains
Enoch, Michael the Archangel, and Jannes and
Jambres . Many spurious books falsely claim to
have been written by various Old Testament
patriarchs. They were composed between 200
B.C. and 100 A.D. There are lots of these spurious
books like The Assumption of Moses, Apocalypse
of Elijah, and Ascension of Isaiah .

So what's the purpose of this drab copy-and-paste.....Are we expected to read and get prepared for Ph.D exams in theology?

I won't waste time on this one.....what you copied and pasted above is a heavily-Semitic argument favouring the canonization of certain writings and the snobbing of others, based on alleged faults of fallacy.

What this argument would fail to tell you is that so much redactional activity (editing) had to be carried out in order to amplify God's omnipotence and Jesus' divinity. Any attempt in these writings to undermine both qualities would lead to the expunging of such passages, or the total rejection of such writs.

Finally, only Jewish accounts of the scripture are recognized, as far as the standard Bible in your own view is concerned. Anything from the Greek is Apocrypha. And you don't suspect foul play somewhere....Why in the name of common sense would the Bible and God himself be perpetually tied to a single race-the Jews? Why in the name of sound reasoning would access to the one and true God be monopolized by a group of people who would someday slay his son? Why would God chose and inspire only Jews alone to write his word and will? Is He really that monomaniac

The Catholics thoroughly understands the logic behind what I just said and keep the Apocrypha along with the So-canonical Writs. The Protestants chose to be so Pro-semitic and narrow-minded and thus disregard anything outside 66 books as unscriptural and replete with fallacies.

rexbuton:
Jesus Christ walked the earth perfect. That is the only truth. Christianity is a choice. there is no compulsion, it is God that draweth men unto himself. I can't convince you, that is the job of the Holy spirit.

Dan brown wrote the da Vinci code as pure fiction loosely tied around real events, and you are almost claiming the holy grail theory is true. My friend, I am a sinner, I need Jesus, we all need him to open our eyes. We must end this talk right here. God bless you

Jesus walked the earth perfect?SeriouslyYou were his contemporary? Lemme even ask you. Apart from the Bible, which other document featuring basically on the biography of Jesus have been read by you?

And about the Holy grail tale.....bro, the truth is not far away in a myriad of rumours. I also find it hard to believe, but we can't say for certain what really transpired about 2,000 years ago. We only blindly swallow accounts written of Jesus by people who, to all intent and purpose, strived to deify Him.

Regards anyway.

rexbuton:
my friend, every religion has it's code of operations. If you are a Christian, your manual should be only the Bible. but your folks have added several other doctrines and resolutions in your various councils. Many of these resolutions have been retracted by the catholic church over time. but the bible says God's word is unchanging. You cannot add or subtract from God's word. it is not subject to review or modification. There was argument about circumcision because it was a requirement from God and paul taught that a convert was a new creature who could see the kingdom of God, if baptised could even enter the kingdom of God. that was. the conflict. and moreover circumcision. is healthier, are you not circumcised?/? that was the conflict then; because Christ's redemptive death freed us from the laws of moses concerning atonement. where have u seen praying for the dead in the bible? or veneration/genuflection? or. Mary intercession? the so called queen of heaven is not Mary ooo! just Google that and Lilith. in my opinion Catholics are not Christians. these days listening to the pope is just like reading those anti-God posts on BBC. someone should remind the pope that we are not of this world

Google what...I would use my search-engine for more purposeful stuffs. Besides, I have met those faults on the Catholic institution, at a time when I used to identify faults in others with glee.

If, in your opinion, the Catholic faithfuls, who practise something close to your ideal Christianity, are on the wrong path, then what hope has the Muslim, the Buddhist, the Hindu, the Jew, the Rosicrucian- and every other non-Protestant out there? Hellfire awaits them with open arms?

I have seen you time without number term a ritual as 'Biblical' and denounce the other as 'Unbiblical'. I'm seriously amused at how much authority you arrogate to yourself. First and foremost, the Bible is a compilation of accepted writings approved by Catholic councils and synods: the same synods you think promotes Unbiblical practices. Why accept their Bible but reject their rituals? Protestants should have diligently compiled their own unique Holy Writ.

What you fail to understand is that the Bible is a brief and heavily-doctored Book suggesting the right access to God. If you think that only 66 books were out there for compilation, you are under an illusion. More than being the only Books, they were rather favorites- others were snobbed on account of not being inspired by God to charges of giving out too much realistic views of the human side of Jesus Christ (Mary Magdalene and the holy grail tale comes to mind).

As for the rituals in question, they are supported by accepted Catholic oral traditions. Ask me why these traditions are outside the Bible and I would ask you if Martin Luther or your General Overseer partook in the Bible's compilation. Maybe Emmanuel Adeboye or Kumuyi did.

My dear, free your mind. Live and let live. Ignore rather than criticise what means nothing to you. You see religion and politics- leave arguments inherent in them to Id!0ts. Those two issues always have more to them than meets the eye, or can ever be freely told.

Truckpusher:
Cheat and stop ranting about it .

Cheats don't rant , they simply cheat and come back home with an std .

Truckkky...I twale unto you. Short, simple and straight to the point.

Every one else is writing an epistle. I nearly thought it was an essay competition.

Rubbish of the highest order.

This 21st century people and their Facebook love eh.....

E get as their mentality be......

More like anti-clockwise.....

If you don't see things their way they would say that you are not trendy.....that your old school no get part 2.

Please, as a warm-blooded male, why should I subscribe to online dating in order to get a boo?.......When I'm not done with the multitude of girls I've met and ogled in real life

Makes me wanna think that social media fora, Nairaland not excluded, are mainly designed for those with low self-esteem, as these are where they can best find their voices and air their views. Funny how they turn into raucous noisemakers in the virtual but get timid once in the real.

Do yourself some good by improving your socializing skills. But if you are introvert in reality, please continue being introvert in virtual fora. Don't jump into a faceless forum to form King Kong when barks from a common sh!t-eating 'Ekuke' dog would make you shout "Blood of Jesus' multiple times.

Nonsense.

Truly the age of Information.....Peeps who can't lock and load common revolver are seriously forming military analysts here, all thanks to highly-subsidized internet rates and free mb's.

WWIII is not happening anytime soon. Forget these doomsday prophets capitalizing on face-offs among major global leaders towards contemporary critical issues. Where freedom of opinion is guaranteed, differences are bound to exist. Fortunately for us all, no global superpower at the moment is headed by an ambitious, inconsiderate,hot-headed and Hitler-like leader. The boy from North Korea is just a spoilt lad seeking attention.

One day, I would find myself in a position where the fate of nations and mankind in general would heavily depend on me. For now I am still struggling with getting a life. Same goes to N-landers out there. Never be so enthused with the virtual as to lose touch with the real. Live the dream.

rexbuton:
stay on topic.
I can't reply properly cos I'm on a project with deadline.
you always misconstrue what I type

I meant that holy communion, immersion baptism and fasting are the real rituals you need. all those Catholic stuff like dispensation and masses for the dead, selling indulgences, relics, Mary and saints veneration , purgatory and the other stuff are UNbiblical and irrelevant.

and you know how irrelevant stuffs are best treated?

Bros, you can just IGNORE those stuffs you deem irrelevant. And still keep it in mind that these irrelevant rites you listed out there are sacred stuffs to some people, Biblical or not.

Remember how circumcision nearly caused a schism in the early Church- No thanks to a race who thought that they alone had a monopolist access to God. It took a farsighted and objective apostle in Saint Paul and the others for the early Church to wriggle out of this debacle. Today Jews and non-Jews claim entitlement to God's sonship.

Most important thing is that You keep the greatest commandment- the commandment of love. But if you insist on castigating a group of people because they failed to keep every injunction to the letter, or included traditions that they felt bonded them to the creator the more, good for you.

To every man his thought. All I know is that there shall be surprises on the last day.

The older members keep ringing it Iike a bell ,"Nairaland has gone to the bingos." It's a matter of time before this forum degrades to the level of 2go.

Op, imagine if the Reverend is an only-son.....So his lineage should go into extinction because he has chosen to serve God

The black man is still miles behind 2015.

rexbuton:
yeah.. including holy communion. see I'm not really supposed to be arguing catholic doctrine right now. just get a KJV . it should help

So This is you leaving without asserting anything meaningful, huh

So much scoffs from me to a set of myopic and judgemental folks out there. It is not as if our Protestant movements are doing any better.

And about your condemnation of the Holy communion.....I agree to your terms and would use the KJV for whatever I want to assert next:

For a more Biblical awareness on how much acceptance Baptism and the Holy Communion should enjoy, Let's see what Jesus had to say on the two.

On Baptism, Jesus said in Matthew 3:15 ," ......FOR THUS IT BECOMETH US TO FULFILL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS." Compare his approval statement with the one for the Holy Communion.

On Communion, Christ said in Luke 22:19 ," This is my body which is given to you: THIS DO IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME."

Consider and compare the two approval-statements and, in your best possible judgement, tell me which among the two would demand stricter observation among Christians.

Yeye dey smell for here.

So the essence of the thread is that in similar circumstances, I should copy the lady's example?.....Abeg make i hiss long hiss

Certainly I don't know how much i can cherish my spouse....but for now, I love my mom like crazy. In fact, the distance of my love for her from my second-best beloved could be likened to the crazy gap between Bayern Munich and other German-based clubs in a typical Bundesliga table.

Seriously, If i ever love my spouse more than my mom, there must be a trace of juju somewhere.

rexbuton:
He [Nero] was known for having captured Christians
burned in his garden at night for a source of light. -Wiki

read up acts 5.28.

the Catholic church did not save Christianity,; they were part of. the plan. If Christianity was conquered Christ would have been a scam. those rites and rituals you mentioned are not part of the body of Christ . the only ritual of the church is baptism by immersion and fasting. every other thing is a scam.

In not even a single line were you able to prove that the Catholic institution aided and abetted in the conspiracy against Christianity. Maybe I read through in a hurry. *still searching*

Baptism and fasting are the only Biblically approved rites of the church.....You are really a guru in Biblical matters . So the Holy Communion is now a scam, right?

Google more convincing arguments against Catholicism next time please. I am replying this current post out of pity.

If na poly....i for talk Nekede.

But since say na uni.......the girl be like Imsu babe.

As in the Okuko dey gym?

PappyMason:
Funny How you can Only worship Christ in that Religion, as an Idol, ether as a Statue of a Child, or as a Corpse on the Cross, Never sitting in Heaven in power,

it is THE Religion of THE DEAD

Firstly to Build a Catholic church the Grounds are consecrated with "The Dead"
(Which makes it Unclean see: Leviticus 11:31, Haggai 2:13 & many others)

God is the God of the Living Not of the Dead
Yet the Roman Church is Christian?

Prayers for the Dead
Masses for the Dead
Candles for the Dead
Dead MARY
Dead SAINTS
Dead Relics
Dead Host
Dead Tongue
Dead Works
Dead Rituals

Its THE Land of the DEAD as its THE Temple
Built on ancient Pagan Burial grounds, then there's ALL the dead it created
See Revelation 18:24

Oga, It seems you, VERY RECENTLY, stumbled on those stuffs you wrote up there. Your vehemence in condemnation is typical, as well as understandable.

Nevertheless dude, You must always respect the Catholic institution for being the earliest mode of Christianity. They deserve it. Secondly, This same institution had jealously guarded and preserved relics, documents, manuscripts, creeds as well as rituals that had proven to be very vital to the Christian faith, as we know it today.

Maybe you might not have heard about the Holy wars.......this institution had always faced the threat of growing Islam in the middle ages. It was for this purpose that they kept fighting warriors, better known as the knight templars, to guard the House of God against fierce Jihad. Now, lemme paint a picture of an otherwise.....If the church, more precisely the Catholic institution, had not warded off the Jihadists, do you think Christianity would have survived, let alone lingering till it got to our time

Once again, I understand your opinion perfectly. Where you are today, i have been there before. But time, maturity and tolerance has completely tamed me. I no longer think my way is perfect, or find faults in others. I absolutely acknowledge that variety is the spice of life. Kindly do the same.

Regards.

cnwokike:
what's your own abeg? If you're still mourning that your corruption in chief president lost his election, my middle finger for you.

see olodo. wetin concern me with GEJ and PMB? dem be like my uncles?

Your thread is so untimely. Abi na now your radio without wire dey cast the news of Buhari's victory?

cnwokike:
I guess you did not read my write up properly.

and I guess you burrowed into some hole and hibernated from May 28 till this afternoon.

O boy, park wella with this your thread. Even Orubebe has moved on.