₦airaland Forum

gboss4sure: Tell them let them hear, is only in lagos I started hearing of omoiles or government taking your land after 99yrs. In igboland once you buy a land it belongs to you and to your desandants forever, I wonder where all this fake rumors are coming from. They should relize that their hating us won't change our culture and pattern of life which stands out among all other regions culture.

#igbosarethebest. If you aint from igbo then stop the jealous and stop hating cause it aint gonna pay u a dime rather na HBP u go de get at the mention of igbos

No my brother You don't get my point. Ok you know what ! If you don't take my word for it, go to Port harcourt and co and give them your own explanation and post their responses here for us to read.

I am just trying to make you know what is going on in the minds of the people and how (if you think at all) you can minimise that and work together.

Babaofor: i don't agree wit u.there is no part of Igbo land where a land u bought legally will be taking from u.

Ok YES IT IS TRUE and I am aware if it. The question is would you be allowed to buy Land at the first place. NO

If you have been following me, you would observe I have not been on Nairaland for sometime. Reason being a family friend of mine went to Onitsha (The largest market in Africa) and saw a vacancy advert for a shop to rent. Do you know that as soon as he got there they told him that they have just rented the shop out, removed the vacacy advert and when my family friend left he placed it back there.

Now that is evil, tribalistic and very disheartening. This man is an Indigene of Lagos state and has bini ancestry. He told me that he has never felt so bad before in his life. Unlike Port harcourt and other South-south states that are still welcoming.

blaqoracle: why did you not build your house in aba or owerri.

where his investment would be safer.

+ 100000

nku5: The man is a deep igbo hater and accomplished chameleon. His most fervent prayer is for there to be violence against igbos in yorubaland so igbos can leave their investments behind

How can you say that ? Have I ever said anything along that line ?

The way you paint me, one would think I hate Igbos for reasons best known to you

gboss4sure: This guy is senseless

maybe yes maybe no time would tell.

blaqoracle: [size=18pt]you don't own land, you only own the structure.[/size]

Gbammmmm that is the point I am trying to pass across.

i wonder why this is not on the fp

By Mrs Aniekwe [size=14pt]"And you people have started again to ask if we are willing to go back there, anybody that wants to go is free to do so, but I will not cry for any Igbo killed in the North.”[/size]

Madam hope they listen to you and stop arguing stu.pidly.

redsun: Look at this primitive man.Are you talking of somebody that is supposedly living in his/her own country or some nigereans that have waywardly found their ways to nigeria and make it their own,like you?

SMH, Am I the one getting killed ? NO CAPITAL N......O NO

If you are da.ft enough to keep going to Boko haram zones even after all the warnings then good luck. Wetin consign Nigerians with una problem

you would not see any South-southerner, rich hausa, yoruba or middle belters in boko haram zones.

Keep arguing with logic even after giving you instances in other countries.

GotNoBrainsYo: I gotNoBrains, YOu most definitely Got[b]NON[/b]brains

Ok sir. It is always better to let people liek you do what your heart pleases so you don't blame people. I wish you a safe journey to borno even when indigenes are travelling to Abuja and co you an Igbo Christian from nowhere would go there. Good luck sai sannu

eduson55: not us..mind your statement.
they use our political leaders so that they can suppress us never to compete with them.

Yes but how do you tend to change the case ?

Let me remind you that African even within the same FAMILY don't love themselves to a point of selfless acts.

My brother, the only solution I think would bring Nigeria to the limelight (Not africa) is if Nigerian Leader both Local and international STOP LOOTING AND DO THE BASIC things to be done eg electricity then watch Nigeria private sector grow.

eduson55: it will not come to pass.
rather we go for peace.

Yes o !

GotNoBrainsYo: E be like say.. e get some questions when we nefer settle for this country.
And e be like say e go lead to another waR. This new war go confirm to the rest of the modern world say africa na real bush.
I can only imagine the atrocities. Choppping of limbs, cutting tongues, disemboweling pregnant women, rape, torture, starvation/scorched earth.
This would be worse than Rwanda and Sierra Lone and Liberia combined. In fact na African World war 1. Our civilization just dey start.
The black man will eradicate the black man from the earth.
Na real wa!

It would not happen in Nigeria so stop dreaming. Nigerians are too busy looting to worry about that.

berem: so are you gonna blame the igbos who buy these lands or the people who sells it to them? Is there anything wrong if I decide to buy land outside my state? Is there a law prohibiting non indigenes from buying lands where they reside?

No I am not blaming Igbos for it, I agreed with eduson that it is unfair and inhuman but my sister I would not deceive you it is what it is ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD.

People inculding Igbos don't like when aliens come to their land acquire lots of properties and bring more people in. People don't like it does not mean it is Igbos fault. It is just like that

eduson55: dont say that..
its their land tho...Igbo's cannot react to it why because,they hardly retaliate and before they retaliate,
it must have gone worst.
...secondly,we are not so united and loves our biz and investments more than anything.
if Igbos can stop this much quest for money and be united,i bet you westerners cannot compete us in anything.quote me right

But westerners are not in any competition with us. They are just using us.

GotNoBrainsYo: So all of our People wey do use our money go buy property for S. Africa,Dubai London nko?

Because our people are du.mb and have no foresight

GotNoBrainsYo: Abi our people no dey wear shokoto and buba for oyinbo man country?

An do those people wear buba and shokoto everywhere ? Do they use it when they are buying and selling ?

Even at that, is it not the same "du.mb our people" that scream racism, they hate us etc

why would they not hate you

GotNoBrainsYo: Why be say when Ibo man wear Ibo dress for Kano- Na invitation to kill am?

No you do not get my point, my point is that after spending 20 years in a place, you behave like an indigene and NOT MAINTAINING THE VILLAGE MENTALITY.

GotNoBrainsYo: So why did we think it was unfair when South Africans begin Kill Nigerians. WEtin the world call am: Xenophobia.
The level of thinking in tis country sef. na wa o

I never thought it was unfair, afterall they did not beg una to go S.A. The only reason I was a bit towards the Nigerian side was because Nigeria fought for South Afrian.

It is the same mentality that has not made Nigeria buy properties in huge numbers in Germany, Brazil, Pakistan, India etc

eduson55: WRONG.
I quote,
any land purchased with your own money,signed and well documented with certificate of ownership,bro,America cannot temper that land
without your consent.and if you decide to leave the land for them,a huge recompense must be paid to you.
do you know what it means to have a C of O of a land?

LMAO !!!

1. America has the land mass to accommodate more people. Texas which is a state out of 52 is the size of the whole Nigeria the most populated country in Africa

2. Even at that, YOU CANNOT BUY LAND IN CERTAIN AREAS OF TEXAS because you are black and not a white american indigene. The treatment they would give you alone, you would have no choice but to sell the house and look for a more friendly place to live in. Same with UK. China, Malaysia etc are even worse

So tell me, if developed countries with highly educated population can do this, what is stopping Nigerian that are even less educated and multi-ethnic ?

eduson55: come to think of it,so igbo's have been banned from a part of Nigeria which they claim is one?
its not fair oo.
maybe tomorrow,Yoruba's will start theirs and we still hover around calling ourselves Nigerians where as we have been
literally and politically deprived of the nationality.

Certainly it is only not fair but very inhuman but that is how the world works especially if their land is valued.

Yorubas would NOT AND NEVER DO THAT TO THE IGBOS and you know it. Rather they would work around it.

berem: how do you mean bros? How is it a leased land? A land you bought with your money now becomes a leased land? Abeg make you explain.

You see your idealogy ? Ok for example, if I go to the USA and buy a landed property. Would I say if the people of the USA are killing Nigerians that they cannot trespass my property because I bought it with MY OWN MONEY ? Or do I consider my property/house as my safe haven ? CERTAINLY NOT !

It is the same that is occurring in Nigeria. An Ikwerre (Indigene) would sell land to you in port harcourt at a very high price, then other indigenes do not like the idea of you having their ancestral land. You as a person are not ready to sell it for a low price or give it up. Animosity starts in the heart of the indigenes. It gets to a breaking point the indigenes plan on how to get their land back.

It occurs everywhere in the world.

evidence

Jews and Nazi

Isreal and Gaza

White farmers and Zimbabweans

etc

eduson55: cant grab your point..futher more

My point is that

1. We do not have a government or any form of security in this nation to protect the lifes of her citizens

2. Important* Looking to why Igbos make themselves the annoying people of a region. This reason lies in the fact that when an Igbo man buys a landed property, he sees it as his own castle and every thing money can solve. In reality the indigenes of the region see it as a leased property to be returned to them in future years. This was the problem South-southerners have with Igbos.

My suggestion is for an smart Igbo man to go back to the east, invest there and live there with his family with occasions when he stays in Abuja and or buys properties in Lagos if he so wishes. Lagos and Abuja are the only places in Nigeria outside your region, you can be grantee your landed property would NEVER be a taken from you by miscreates

berem: Hmmm! What a pathetic story.........am speechless!

well it is no longer pathetic because as Mrs. Aniekwe said, "Any Igbo person still in the north,but I will not cry for any Igbo killed in the North."

Yes silly igbo person that still want to live in the core north as a Christian without the consideration of Boko haram is an ideeiot.

FACT.

When Muslims too ain't safe, then I think it is du.mb for Christian Igbos to live there.

What are the IG, commissioners, President, gov etc doing about this security issue ?

The problem is that when an Igbo person gets to a place buys a land, he/she considers it as her own land but in reality it is a lease land. This is what makes people angry at Igbos. When you live in a place for 20 years and don't think it is necessary to become a full indigene without bring the Igbo culture to the new land, then you are seen as an invading alien rather than a settler in Nigeria context.

Morning Mods, Please can this hit the FP

https://www.nairaland.com/1092925/achebe-got-it-all-wrong

Thanks

zameen: Where have you been sir?...

Good morning Sir, I have been around just siddon dey look statue for now.

[quote author=*556#]The reviewer is not even a Nigerian.[/quote]I know, he is from Kenya right ? I read the whole articule and all I did was clap as the writer know what has always been on my mind about this Achebe issue (the worse tribalist after Nnamdi the worst and before Ojukwu)

The best analysis in years. God bless you my brother

I feel exactly the same way even before reading the book. I knew it was going to be too one sided typical of them and I was right. You actually read the book

@ Gerald

Look I love your topic and I am glad you know Yorubas love you. I mean what is the gain to hate igbos if at all we lose if we hate Igbos.

Not withstanding, All ethnic groups love Igbos but ( A BIG BUT) Igbos must look and criticise their leaders when wrong. That is the only way things would go smoothly.

I don talk my own

berem: realise wetin? I have told you at times you talk like someone who is...... make I sharrap. How on earth can you say that ndi igbo leaders are the real enemies of their fellow igbos? Who tell you that kind thing?

Berem this is the problem with most Igbo youths and you are falling for the same trap. If you calm down and have a deep think then read some history on Igbo leaders and how the present day Igbos are in this shape, you would realise that very few Igbo leaders have ndi-Igbo love at heart.

I don't want to go back in history but as of now, the most obvious person that has the Igbo interest to heart and want to give Igbos a sense of pride and unity with a force to reckon with is Orju Uzo Kalu. Now this might sound a bit strange to you given the history of OUK but I can tell you his ambitions are far greater.

You see my sister, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE psych OF YOUR PEOPLE. Igbos are individualistic which is a good strength if channelled right. The problem now lies when the LEADERS too are individualistic, OUK wants to stop that and give Igbos one voice from himself.

This information I am telling is, NO ONE WOULD TELL YOU.

naijababe: Be nice

naijababe I am being nice

All I know is that by MONDAY 5TH OF NOVEMBER, BIAFRA WOULD BE AN INDEPENDENT NATION. INSHA ALLAH

gerald28: @Negro_Ntns You will never get such powers and even if you do, you will not do anything. You are just a talkative as your fellow tribes men, always barking but can't do anything.

true

Ok in reality it is NOT the south south that are ndigbo enemies. South-souths love Igbos but the real enemies are Ndigbo leaders. Trust me when I tell you.

I hope you realise this

Obiagu1: Lagos or Yorubaland is not Nigeria!

You are going round in circles. What is the bases of your argument. Is it that Lagos was amalgamated with Nigeria or amalgamated with southern Nigeria.