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[quote author=One_Naira]Anytime i see it i always wondered. Sometimes some claim places in their region where few Igbo migrate to as having high Igbo populace. [size=18pt]I once had an argument where one claimed there are more Igbo outside of SE than in SE.[/size] I busted out laughing, one cause idk how SE got into all the argument and two, who the f2k is living in SE. When i stayed Onitsha, it was densely packed and i wonder who the heck they were if their very few igbo in SE. I just find the whole thing comical, i would have thought SE Igbo would too but maybe una don't. I know for my fam, as Igbo, when they start business anywhere in Nigeria, it's usually cause they think they can easily outdo the indigenous there. It haven't failed yet.[/quote]Yes the person that said that WAS RIGHT.

Given by the claims of ohaneze and the population of the south east, one can argue that the amount of Igbos outside their region searching for greener pastures is twice not just more than the amount of Igbos in the SE. I have facts if you need them.

Obiagu1: It's obvious you have not understood simple things. In colonial era, you don't amalgamated none protectorates! The British kept expanding by acquiring territories till a final boundary is drawn up leaving no land "independent" of British control.

Lagos colony and Yoruland was not amalgamated rather Yorubaland was acquired by the British, then was added to Lagos colony. There was no amalgamation in Yorubaland.

No actually you amalgamate more protectorate or should I say territories as the case of Cameroon. The southern cameroon after seceding from the eastern region and borno protectorates where added to cameroon in later years so what is your point. In fact the north and southern protectorates were added together.

How is those examples different ?

PhysicsQED: We have gone through this before. What I tried to get you to understand, and what you still don't seem to understand, is that the Niger Coast Protectorate was amalgamated with some other territories to form the protectorate of Southern Nigeria in 1900. I don't understand why this is such a difficult thing to understand. I provided you with one source before which rightly described it as an amalgamation, which it was, but you insist on claiming that these territories were "acquired" as if they were ever part of the Niger Coast Protectorate. They were not. That's the point.

I really hope he understands this bolded point

Obiagu1, I think you are a bit biased here. I really thank God for giving the british the wisdom to join Lagos (Ondo, delta, edo were not part of lagos) to the southern nation. It has given the ethnic minorities freedom from tribalism of the Igbos and made them self independent. This explain the reason why Ijaws hate Igbos so much as to seize their property in port harcourt aka Rivers state which is not igbo town but due to propaganda expansionism became one and later gotten back.

I mean you would agree with me that is not for that reason, Edos, Ondos, delta etc would by now be speaking Igbo, surpressed like what Nnamdi and his cohorts did to Eyo ita and ijaws. In fact the minorities were[b] blackmailed[/b] by Nnamdi back then to vote for Nnamdi as the governor of the eastern region. It was because Nnamdi lost to the west that he ran back to the east to remove eyo ita. In fact NCNC ( National Council of NIGERIA AND CAMEROONs) was divided thanks to Nnamdi and (so to go ethnic here) Igbo tribalism. Cameroonians had to leave and form their own country but the edos, ijaws, ibibios and co had no where to go and Nnamdi and the top Igbo men capitalised on that.

In reality Igboland itself is not larger than THOSE 5 SE states but Anioma people (bini origin) have been lied to over the years to the extent that some are now confused whether Anioma is an ethnic group or part of Igbo. In fact Anioma is part of the Edoid group and have nothing in common with Igbos. These are facts and any historian of culture and history should verify.

Given those facts stated above, I think it was wise for the amalgamation of Lagos so there is no singular majority as of the case of baifra.

I hope this makes sense.

nice pic though.

That is not Afam, I know Afam real life and that is not his pic.

adieora: Pls they sud leave Fashola already.Lagos is not the only state where bikes were banned.Same thing happened in Enugu.Fashola is the man with a plan,abeg free him to make Lagos beautiful.

Thank you my sister

Are you minding them. Most of the people talking here have plans for their state of origin. The same iddeiots want Lagos to be a dirty inhabitable place.

God bless Governor fashola. These so called Okada need an iron hand.

How can a governor of a state pass a law in favour of the masses but because of short sightedness, okadas are still roaming about

There is a yoruba saying that goes Egba ni ogun were (A cane use for flogging is the cure to madness). He who says Lagosians would not sleep, him mama too no go sleep.

Fashola Please tell the soldiers to be in the INNER ROADS not the main roads.

Okadas are a menaces to the society

Katz and Obinoscope I am really impressed. Obinoscope you were really impressive I must say, the position you chose was not an easy one but still you debated in a logical manner.

Katz you are one man I can never debate with as far as history is concerned. You indeed know your facts. Would love to see more debates of this nature in the near future.

Omo you men are educated oh chai !!!

wish him speedy recovery. A great actor indeed.

Lexoria: You see why I'm hating Nigerian men for my daughters everyday.So because a man does these things for his wife that means he's a slave to her.Well if cooking,cleaning,birthing and sex is all ur wife/wife-to-be does/will do for u then u deserve d wife u got/get with the mentality u have,I also pity her cos she's a slave (according to u)for doing all that for u.I don't have to tell u what I do for my MAN,it's none of ur business.

Madam, you are just angry for no just cause. I asked what you do for you husband that is extraordinary so other women can emulate your beautiful character (again you can chose to keep that to yourself). I mean for a man to do all that for you ? I personally think it is master slave relationship.

This is the reason why relationships of recent times end up in broken homes. Madam I would advice you if truly your husband is doing all that to tell him to stop because you are emasculating him and depriving him of his manly roles. again That is if truly he is doing all that for you

God created each sex for SPECIFIC ROLES and that should not be changed unless HE SAYS SO.

Don't get me wrong madam, I love my woman to bits and treat her special in my own little way which I know she appreciates. I don't have to cook, open the door for her, wash her feet etc. It is the little things that count. Ok for example her is a hint. On a random day, I can buy her a nice gown of her choice and take her out on a lovely dinner, tell her how much I love her BUT STILL MAINTAIN MYSELF ALJ HAREM. She does similar outings for me as well and I love her for that. On a serious note, I don't know how to present it to you as you are a woman can cannot understand or be a bit biased but A REAL MAN would understand my sentiment raised earlier.

SELFWORTH: Stupid generalisation. Stop being a bitter divorcee and let God choose for you next time. Next time you may just be happy if you show love and support rather than harshness which a lot of guys favour. Women respond to love not a dictator!

Lol my brother/sister I did not generalise but said majority of them. I might be wrong in my accession but that is upto you to prove with facts that I was wrong. Here are my own facts.

1. The rate of divorcees in Nigeria is on a raise and even more is the rate of mothers with 1,2,3 children before finally settling down

2. Unlike the days of our forefathers where being a virgin was a woman's pride and honour to the man who marry's her. The women of now are day actually sort out to be "disvirgined" before leaving their tertiary institute be it university or polytechnic. This is a fact

3. How many virgins do we have that are marrying now ?

Now these are the reasons for my saying "most" which is not generalisation as I did not use "ALL"

[quote author=*Kails*]I definitely agree with this list.
But women have to keep in mind that men are not perfect.

You have to let the man know what you want and allow him to take the initiative.
Don't keep it all in and then become upset when he fails to deliver.

There must be mutual understanding and compromise.
Fellas help her out, show her love and ladies allow him some time to be a man
and be appreciative of his efforts to please you. [/quote]Most Nigerian ladies don't respect their men. In fact it is fashionable for a woman to cheat on her husband now. Very indiscipline set of women I must lament.

This WOMEN RIGHT rubbish is the cause of all these IMO. Women when they have too much power it gets into their heads. High divorce rate because women are now seen as lords over men (western ideology) and because of this Nigerian women sheepishly follow without realising how much they have destroyed the institute of marriage

Lexoria: my hubby does some of the things here and others that aint and I appreciate it a lot,infact I do somethings for him that he knows Is impossible for me to do but I go against all odds to do it just to show my appreciation.
Any girl who likes mean and wicked needs spiritual,psycological and mental evaluation.Mean and wicked is why I have issues with most nigerian men...they are mean and wicked,especially the ones on this forum.

May I ask what you do for your husband ? The maximum thing you can do for him and is not really for him for you 2 is have a baby for him aka a family, cook for him while cooking for yourself, clean the house for him because you also don't want to live in a dirty house then give him good se.x during your section with him which you also enjoy.

So what exactly do you do for him that is extraordinary ?

But look at what you agreed with the OP in

1. open doors for her

2. cook for her

3. compliment her

4. touch her without expecting more etc

Who has time for that ? on top woman. Your husband might seem loving to you but really to people like me, he is just serving you as in a master slave relationship. Not that my opinion matters

All these for a WOMAN ? What are women doing to satisfy men self. Why do men keep satisfying women all the time

Self defence mechanism, always compare their cities with Lagos. LOL

why Not tackle the issue here rather than always bring Lagos into the lime light of aba's woes.

Yes most cities in Nigeria are in "similar" situation but I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY PART OF LAGOS AS BAD AS THIS.

advocate666: join a biafran resistant group and use your education (not certificate) to better the life of your people.

So what happens to his family ?

same here

It is back in full force. No electricity for 1 week now

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Bawo ni ijo lagcity abeg ignore van of a man.

@ Katz, CyberG and co Please ignore this thread. Am enjoying the discussion between themselves Thanks

this is how the actual Igbo people felt after the war not some lying old biafra spokes man.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTWGnvDYkM0

There would never be an end to this matter. All the lies Achebe, your leaders and fathers are feeding you would only lead to something we all would regret. Yorubas have forgiven and forgotten all the atrocities committed against them but if you think because we do not talk we do not know our rights then you are very wrong.

Unlike the middlebelters, core northerners, and south-southerners that would reply with violence, Afernifere is replying with words BUT don't take that as a sign of stu.pidity or weakest but rather as a sign of GREAT respect and love which I think it should be reciprocated.

We know how tribalistic Igbo leaders are regardless of what you feed the youths and country with propaganda. The father of tribalism in Nigeria is Nnamdi and because unlike Eyo Ita and co that bowed to his expansionism we/awolowo did not, Awolowo is labelled with such by these same Igbo leaders.

show I continue ? this is no tribalism but I want well thinking Nigerians to KNOW the reason why this issue would never die even though we were the ones being betrayed here but forgiven.

It is on record that Chief Awolowo approached Dr. Azikiwe during the 1959 elections when no clear leader emerged to give Action Group votes to him so that Azikiwe can become the Prime Minister and he, Awolowo, the Finance Minister, but Zik turned him down and traded the Prime Ministership for a ceremonial presidency with Tafawa Balewa.

Yet they blame Awolowo for Nnamdi's ignorance

It is on record that NPC/NCNC alliance was used for maximum effect to oppress the Yoruba and other Southerners with Igbo people taking about 97% of whatever is due to the South in a country that understood only North/South dichotomy. The so called Igbo dominance (at the federal level) is traceable to this evil and oppressive alliance, which with federal might, they installed Igbo Vice-Chancellors in Universities in Southern Nigeria, which was and is still not practicable in their own clime.

Here are the questions

1. Why did Nnamdi think he can rule Yorubas in particular and not the nation. He sees Yorubas as his subject but the north is his partner.

2. Why were their no ethnic minority in the eastern government. Likes of Ikwerre, Ibibio, Efik etc unlike the north and the west

If you want me to bring out more historic facts I would show you, not only the leaders but the people's mind set as well.

More to come

on how Igbo leaders are so tribalistic they do not see beyond their noses. BTW this is no ethnic battle but facts so lets not result to insults

It is on record that a party, later known as Zik’s party, the NCNC, was actually led at inception by a Yoruba man Sir Herbert Macaulay and Dr. Azikiwe served as his secretary. It is on record that many Yoruba people were members and moved out en masse when Zik made an infamous statement to his fellow Ibo Union that God has sent Igbo race to liberate Nigeria and he started using his West African Pilot newspaper to drive the Igbo agenda. [size=14pt]It was Zik that turned NCNC from national party to Igbo party.[/size] That despite the insultive utterances, the party was still popular in the West until Zik insisted on ruling the Western Region against common sense and Ibadan People’s Party gave their votes to Action Group to form the government.

In your selective ignorance forgot that Azikiwe went back to the East to drive away Eyo Ita who was the Prime Minister because he was from the minority tribe.

Not sure about inside Abuja but you would find in Suleja alone the road.

Also Lokoja which is not far away in reality.

tribalism of Ojukwu, Nnamdi and co are legendary

naijababe: In 1934, some elite Nigerians, Dr. Kofo Abayomi, H.O. Daniel, Ernest Ikoli, Samuel Musanya, (later Oba), J.C Vaughan, among others, formed the Lagos Youth Movement, later Nigerian Youth Movement, NYM, (1936) and by 1938, it was so popular that it was beating Herbert McCaulay’s NNDP to second position in the Council elections of the Lagos ownship and the Nigerian legislative Council. Came February 1941, when its member, Dr. Abayomi, had to resign for further studies abroad. This created an opening for a fresh election in which Ikoli and Akinsanya expressed interest to become the flag bearer of the Movement. Obafemi Awolowo’s group solidly supported Ikoli, an Ijaw; while Azikwe’s gave its backing to Akinsanya, an Ijebu Yoruba like Awolowo. Not much of tribal politics in those good old days even as the Movement was largely Yoruba dominated. But not when Ikoli won the flag. Zik and Akinsanya charged that they lost because their candidate was Ijebu not minding that so was also Awolowo. They walked out along with some Igbo members. According to G.O. Olusanya, non-Igbo members became suspicious. "They reasoned that if the Igbos continued the policy of closing ranks on issues while the others remained divided, it was only a question of time before the Igbo dominated the rest." (Groundwork of Nigerian History - Obaro Ikime). "Azikwe’s defection virtually destroyed the multi-tribal character of the Movement" (Nigerian Political Parties- R. L Sklar) .


Enough said!!!!

Gbammm SMH @ Nnamdi