₦airaland Forum

1. No northerners life would be endanger because of Boko haram.

2. Northerners DON'T SUPPORT BOKO HARAM so OPC should chill !!!!!!!

3. It is better we all come together and fight this plague rather than trying to separate the hausa and fulani communities because of some misguided people.

GenBuhari: Iam not sure I actually said that, I am presenting evidence and people should be able to arrive at their own conclusions

LOL I for fear, It is good though but reading this thread go take days o !

I would look more into you evidence later. But seriously you try

Now I believe the government and Lagosian (Irrespective of ethnicity) should all work together as a unit.

I have said it times without number, the suffering of Emeka and Musa on the streets of Lagos is not different from that of Tunde or Timaya.

We can make a city work to our advantage while the others keep acting like ideeeiots.

Crayola1: If you are going to says something and swear by it then you should bring out facts, especially if what you are alleging is very derogatory in nature.

I brought my own.

I would not go down that path,

Please stop and tell Ngodigha aka Andre Uweh to stop as well. Thanks

Genbuhari, are you actually saying Abacha's rule was better than Obj's ?

I hope I am reading this quite alright

Crayola, it is Ok

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]I don't understand why she needs to be deported for speaking her mind. Freedom of speech?
I feel sorry for her sha, leaving a disciplined (in some aspect) country for a jungle like Nigeria.

I'm glad to hear that the blogger has been arrested though, cyber bullying is illegal. [/quote]That woman has said some pretty horrible things. In fact in an ideal society she should be arrested

Dalover I hope you get this message and also forward it to Beaf the bigot and your fellow goons

alj harem: You sir are a parasite ! Shebi na how una dey talk am

I am a Lagos indigene and I can tell you that Your oil or Your government had little or no impact on Lagos. Likes of Dangote, Adenuga, Ben Bruce etc made Lagos what it is.

We lagosians are not clinging on to any minority not to talk of resources. Maybe you need to go check your facts right. The highest revenue after Oil is Cocoa. Non-oil based state is Lagos (In terms of revenue)

Why did your GEJ give SW the highest allocation after SS ? Ask yourself, You think say na beans

I want you to understand my ingliush

1. You are not a SS but an Igbo man

2. You as an Igbo man pray for the downfall of SW and to an extent Lagos because of some reasons best known to you.

3. SS resources was and would never have an impact on Lagos or the SW

4. Tell your parasitic brothers to stop carrying ghana must go and saying "Mama village don tire me, I dey go Lagos" Only for you to come and commit crime and rituals

5. Lagos does not start and end with Yoruba, I have said it times without number. Lagos and indeed the entire SW region of Nigeria is a melting point for all ethnicity that is why your father or your father's friend was able to get educated. Go ask them.

6. We Yorubas might not be the strongest or smartest tribe according to you but we hold 3 things very strong and that is why we keep moving from strength to strength. Those things are God/Allah/Olodumare, hope and believe

We believe in our strength and we are not partial if not we would have been destroyed.

Till today the yorubas set the pace from the first television station in africa before France(WNTV aka NTA your father watches on his bed) to the first highraise building aka sky scraper (Cocoa house ibadan) to first free education before the British. To free health etc

Now we have set the standards again because unlike you that your are too bigoted to ask for accountability from your leaders. We are not like that, we protest against "our sons and daugthers" in power if they misuse it.

Today Yorubas can boast of the first man made Island in Africa. Alhamdu lillah

It is not by yorubas power but by faith in God. Keep hating while they move from strength to strength

Now we are talking of light rail and constant electrity. Very soon Mama I dey go lagos would come and tell us it is Oil money. LOL

Ingrates

[size=14pt]@ Nri priest

I hope you would not mind my outburst because I am anger now and I have to say the truth.

I would not deny Igbos their place but trying to belittle the achievement of the yorubas knowing full well that you are not unto scratch is crazy.

Just saying.

@Other tribes

We respect everyone and everyone is equal in the eyes of God/Allah so who are we. At the end of the day Lagos would not last forever The only constant thing in life is change.

But I have an issue with the Igbos here on Nairaland who claim and counter-claim

If they notice that their claims are then wrong, then they try to belittle or even try to scheme for the place to go down just because we are saying Igbos are not as big as they think they are.

Imagine someone laughing that Boko haram would bomb lagos, this is how evil some Nairalanders can be at times[/size]

DaLover: These hypocrites keep coming to tell us they are better than the rest of us....i wonder why someone like me living in warri would start claiming Lagos, doesn't it make more sence to claim Abuja, london or newyork?
If people are saying they have invested so much in a place, and as a result need to have a say in the running of the place, thats another thing,
But if the indigenous people do not accept you, u pack ur bags and leave, Any body that feels that any particular place is the beginning and end of life needs to wake up....

How lagos became developed was from the national purse, just like Abuja today....it wasnt because yorubas are smarter than others...period. Sorry i dont want ur lagos, or even Abuja....i am quite in waffi city and pitaqua...the truth just has to be told......

The whole underlaying scheme of this thread is to subject the subconscious mind of some weaklings that the yorubas are a better race, and i am always on stand by to shoot down that philosophy.

Claims of being the most tolerant, the most intelligent, the most sophisticated bla bla bla......but yet clinging on to resources of the minorities like sickened vultures.

Please feel free to do what ever u want with Lagos, it is a yoruba state, but dont come here to tell me that yorubas developed the place solely or that oil did not or does not play a role in the building of Lagos. Hypocratic leech!

You sir are a parasite ! Shebi na how una dey talk am

I am a Lagos indigene and I can tell you that Your oil or Your government had little or no impact on Lagos. Likes of Dangote, Adenuga, Ben Bruce etc made Lagos what it is.

We lagosians are not clinging on to any minority not to talk of resources. Maybe you need to go check your facts right. The highest revenue after Oil is Cocoa. Non-oil based state is Lagos (In terms of revenue)

Why did your GEJ give SW the highest allocation after SS ? Ask yourself, You think say na beans

I want you to understand my ingliush

1. You are not a SS but an Igbo man

2. You as an Igbo man pray for the downfall of SW and to an extent Lagos because of some reasons best known to you.

3. SS resources was and would never have an impact on Lagos or the SW

4. Tell your parasitic brothers to stop carrying ghana must go and saying "Mama village don tire me, I dey go Lagos" Only for you to come and commit crime and rituals

5. Lagos does not start and end with Yoruba, I have said it times without number. Lagos and indeed the entire SW region of Nigeria is a melting point for all ethnicity that is why your father or your father's friend was able to get educated. Go ask them.

6. We Yorubas might not be the strongest or smartest tribe according to you but we hold 3 things very strong and that is why we keep moving from strength to strength. Those things are God/Allah/Olodumare, hope and believe

We believe in our strength and we are not partial if not we would have been destroyed.

Till today the yorubas set the pace from the first television station in africa before France(WNTV aka NTA your father watches on his bed) to the first highraise building aka sky scraper (Cocoa house ibadan) to first free education before the British. To free health etc

Now we have set the standards again because unlike you that your are too bigoted to ask for accountability from your leaders. We are not like that, we protest against "our sons and daugthers" in power if they misuse it.

Today Yorubas can boast of the first man made Island in Africa. Alhamdu lillah

It is not by yorubas power but by faith in God. Keep hating while they move from strength to strength

Now we are talking of light rail and constant electrity. Very soon Mama I dey go lagos would come and tell us it is Oil money. LOL

Ingrates

[quote author=Ejiné]Same here!
Thank you!

I find it laughable when so many underachievers and ne'er-do-wells, who now rely on Lagos as their bread and butter, foolishly think the case is the same for everybody else.
And I'm not one to brag about my family's wealth, but this once, I'll state it bluntly - We are minted... Extremely! And I say it with pride - the family wealth even spills over to Benin City, Calabar and Abuja, but let me be blunt - Lagos means FUCKALL to us.
Not a single kobo of the family wealth is gotten from Lagos. We have no buildings there, no investments, no relatives, or even a common hut in Lagos!
I do not plan to go there any time soon
I do not plan to live there any time soon
I do not plan to make SHIIT from Lagos in the future either
I do not plan to have any business with Lagos, or any affairs with Lagos in any way.
My family's towering business success can be linked to many notable Nigerian cities, but Lagos is NOT one of them.

So I laughed soooo hard at the other knucklehead who said I was jealous
The idiiot's ignorant mind obviously can't function outside his El Dorado, Lagos, which is why he thinks every Nigerian gives a fuuuckk about the place.

SMH. I'll congratulate his stupiidity for that goof in reasoning sha.[/quote]You have to admit this is the daf.test statement of all times !!!

Odenigbo Aroli: Odenigbo Aroli = Nri priest.

Who is claiming lagos ? Igbos never claimed lagos for a day but you can't overlook their staggering investments and contributions into the place right from time before LOUIS OJUKWU became the wealthiest man then. The east were trading palm oil,west coccoa,north groundnut,midwest rubber and these groups all paid taxes that was used by the british to develop their area of residence which was lagos the capital ! So, tell me exactly what you are trying to achieve with this your obviously biased post.

Nri priest, I am not one of those that would tell you that Igbos did not do this, Yoruba did that. As well know me for

Again building houses is not investment in a state. Lets get our facts right. I would drop the issue with you so as not to make it sound tribalistic.

shymmex: Ok, but please don't let jealousy and hatred make these people hug a wet transformer.

LOL, shymmex I am not saying this to downgrade anyone. They say "when a lie is been propagated for a long time, it is then considered the truth"

Just like a thread Beaf go owned, I hope my Igbo brothers don't fall for this trap.

We are one family now in Lagos but people need to stop rewriting our history to suit their agenda.

[quote author=Ejiné]But wetin be "Onyeberibe" though? Is that Asante? [/quote]What is Onye Beribe ? That is Igbo

Onye means - person

Beribe in hausa means - Yoruba

Just like Abuoshe, Onyioshi etc all are have to used by people from different part of the country to insult others. Does not mean anything, Infact Onye this onye that is no longer in use as far is broken-english is concerned

shymmex: The returnee slaves were of the Egba stock. They were Yorubas!

I could careless, all I know is that they were yorubas thus explain the cultural infulence in serra leano (We have a serra leanoian to confirm this on Nairaland) and Brazilian, likes of Okundayo Fernadanz etc

Mind my spelling.

DECOtech: will u shut ur smelly gut, u bloody tribalist. The poster said lag was built by slave returnees. Were the Igbos not also captured n sold into slavery?
Its not a must for u to reply to a post.

No returnee slaves were NOT IGBOS but Cerlos people and Brazilian heritage. Go check your facts right

In as much as I do not support Ijoz post, You should stop saying things you are not sure of. Returnee slaves DID NOT HAVE IGBO ORIGIN.

Thanks

Jarus: Kemi Olunloyo is one irresponsible, shameless lady that fights everyone on the internet(Facebook in particular) uttering all manner of vulgar words. I remember the fight she had with an equally shameless Femi Fani Kayode, insulting their parents(FFK's father is a first republic politician and KOO's father a former governor of old Oyo state). I remember another fight she had with one journalist, Victor something.

She also had one with a British Nigerian singer. The woman is just impossible and very irresponsible.

Rossikk: You must be a maximum IGNORAMUS to write this. What road was built by the British that became 'degenerated'?

Name me ONE road they built. Was it Lagos-Benin? Onitsha-Port Harcourt? Lagos-Ibadan? Abuja-Kaduna? Which road did they build? ANSWER: NONE. All the roads we use today were built by Nigerian govts after independence. Under the British, virtually the only roads that existed were in Ikoyi, GRA Ibadan and GRA Kaduna, where the white folks lived. After they left was when the Nigerian govt began building actual inter-city expressways linking all the various cities and towns such as you see today.

Oh, as well as building the schools and universities we have today. Under British rule, 92% of Nigerians were illiterate. Thankfully that figure is down to 23% today under black rule, following massive investment in education by successive indigenous administrations.




They built a lot more than the British did in their 63 years in office. I was just reading through the history and discovered the British built not one university in those 63 years. This, despite exporting billions worth of natural resources annually. Where do you think all the money went?

Can you imagine if the Nigerian govt. ruled for 63 years without building one university?

Would you reminisce with nostalgia over their rule?

No

So why would you reminisce over the foreign British exploiters who ruled and robbed the country while doing NOTHING? Is it because you have a colonial mentality and still think like a slave?

Thank you

At those Igbos that know the history of Lagos more than me should please step forward so I can tell them that what their fathers told them was a big lie.

Some are even claiming that SE/SS is better than SW yet Ibadan house prices have gone up because of constant Migration. Or you developed Ibadan as well ?

Nothing man no go hear for Nairaland.

CyberG: Re: Pictures Of Lagos Before Crude Oil And Independence by [size=16pt]PhysicsQED(m)[/size]: 6:43pm
CyberG: Are the two elements mentioned in this quote ^^ in their 70's or 80's and lived in the Lagos of those days? If NOT, then you should not let inane

Are you completely mentally deranged or something? My comment had nothing to do with ethnicity or tribe. My allusion to Rossike's comments about these kinds of threads is about the British and the undeserved praise people give them for how Lagos was back then without taking cognizance of all the facts.

You're a fool PhysicsQED.

You're a fool PhysicsQED.

and...

You're a BIG fool PhysicsQED .

Had to say it three times because you're just that SO dumb PhysicsQED.

SwineSICKQED: You inbred SWINE, who are you talking BS? Thunder fire YOUR useless BRAIN and tiny DI.CK! Your moronic comment means nothing to the progress of a place you can NEVER be with a thousand seccessions! The current state of that place makes YOUR LONG THROAT water and why don't you come right here to Isale Eko to collect the SW that you dream about? Come with all your kith and kins in sardine cans and that will be your eternal home 12 feet in hades! What a waste of space!? If you ever talk to me with that useless mouth of yours I will cut it off and vaporize the curse of that human existence you think you ARE! ANUOFIA! EFULEFU IDIOT! ONYEBERIBE! EWU NSALA! OBUA!

Leave Physics out of this.

Funkymallam: And why cant u face the topic? Must u derail threads?

Wonder why that name gives u a hard on. Smh

How did I derail the topic ? Are you also supporting him lying all the in the name of "I support GEJ" ?

manny4life: At times, I wonder what your hate for this woman is. What has this woman done to you? What he argued is totally different from what you're arguing. NOI made recommendation affecting her unit, and with regards to region she oversaw, the final decisions came from the Board of the WBG which includes the President.

I do not hate the woman but edicolove and his goons lie tooo much. He needs to stop misinforming others

Now this reality, whether you chose to accept it or keep wallowing in Ignorances and Lies is your cup of tea.

I wonder how a group of people that have always wish for a downfall of a city claim to be the ones that built it.

Pure Ignorance I say

[size=13pt]Most of these non-yorubas (igbos in this case) talking are not even Lagos indigenes. Look, let me tell you the piece of my mind and it is the truth. The truth is always a bitter ppill to swallow.

1. In 1950's their were little or no Igbos in Lagos. Thus Igbos had NO impact in Lagos

2. In 1930's NO oil was discovered in Lagos or by Nigeria and most of the building back then apart from the houses in Ikoyi (please note this) and railway was by the british. The rest was by Lagosians, now Lagosians are the Awori,Egun,Ijebu and Egbas.

3. Way before 1900 Lagos has influenced a lot of Migrations of advance civilisations. I mean empires that can expand and can use the boat to cross from one point to another because Lagos is not a mainland but a series of Islands joined together. I wonder how Igbos were about to join these Islands since they have been migrating and developed Lagos.

4. I am an indigene of Lagos and part of the royal family. I can categorically tell those that say Lagos was not developed by other yorubas to stop dreaming. When Ekiti and Osun farmers where producing food for Lagosians, where were your fore-fathers ? When Ondo and Ogun provided the necessary things for Lagos, where were your fathers.

5. Most of your Igbos are too tribalistic and like to claim other people's land as your effort. Well this would not apply here because we know our hsitory.

The fact is that you cannot sow where you did not reap. During the fuel subsidy protest those that mainly oppose Lagos protest as far as I am aware were Igbos on Nairaland eg Dalover and co claiming SS orgin.

Keep deceiving yourselves when you say "go back to your Oyo etc". Majority of yorubas in Lagos are not Migrates but Indigenes, go figure. I am yet to see a migrate yoruba to claim Lagos unless for political appointment eg Tinubu and that is PERFECTLY fine because we yorubas say "Omo odua ni wa" That in short words means we are of the same father. This does not mean yorubas have a bigger hand in Lagos but it is always good to set the record straigh

If at all any group is to claim, then it is the binis because Awori-Egun people (which I am part of) are a mixture of Aworis, Yewa, Egun, Itsekiri, Egba, Ijebu, Bini, Nupe (tapa), Brazilians and Cerlos (who even uphold the yoruba culture in serre leano today)

I am out, that is the reality on ground. [/size]

The way people mis-join lies and propaganda on this site one would wonder !

Edicolove come here and explain how the job description of Iweala is similar to that she had at the world bank !

edicolove: First of all, the report did not say GEJ. It said VIPs in Nigeria including private sector and state governors. You either cannot read or are plain stup1d. Secondly, Okonjo Iweala came from the world bank where she has worked for years and the whole world did not crumble. Though our goverment is doing poorly, some of you make the arguments and criticisms against the government look silly and childish. Please go back to school!

Errmmmm I am sorry but I have to say you are either ignorant or a lair.

Iweala position in the World bank is totally different from her position in Nigeria.

Please do you mind telling us the decisions Iweala made that have change the economics of the world ?

What was her position at the world bank

@OP

Please more pictures of the Islands if you have any especially the off coast Islands like Tarkwa bay, Ogogoro Island, Snake Island (Sagbokoji Village) etc. Very much appreciated

naptu2: TREATY WITH LAGOS 1861

Treaty between Norman B. Bedingfield, commander of Her Majesty’s ship “PROMETHEUS” and Senior Officer of the Bights division and William M’coskry esquire, her Britannic Majesty’s acting consul on the part of Her Majesty the Queen of Great Britain and Docemo, Oba of Lagos on the part of himself and chiefs.

ARTICLE I

In order that the Queen of England may be the better enabled to assist, defend and protect the inhabitants of Lagos and to put an end to slave trade in this land and the neighbouring countries and to prevent the destructive wars so frequently undertaken by Dahomey and others for the capture of slaves, I, Docemo, do with the consent and advice of my council, give, transfer and by this presents grants and confirm into the Queen of Britain, her heirs and successors for ever, the port and Island of Lagos, with all the rights, profits, territories and appurtenances whatsoever, thereto belonging and as well the profits and revenues as the direct, full and absolute dominion and sovereignity of the said port, Island and premises, with all the royalties thereof, freely, fully, entirely and absolutely.
I do also covenant and grant that the quiet and peaceable possession thereof shall, with all possible speed, be freely and effectually delivered to the Queen of Great Britain or such person as her Majesty shall there unto appoint for her use in the performance of this grant, the inhabitants of the said Island and territories, as the Queen’s subjects and under her sovereignty, Crown jurisdiction and government being still suffered to live there.

Article II

Docemo will be allowed the use of the title Oba in its usual African significance and will be permitted to decide disputes between natives of Lagos with their consent, subject to appeal to the British laws.

Article III

In the transfer of lands, the stamp of Docemo affixed to the document will be proof that there are no other native claims upon it and for the purpose he will be permitted to use it as hitherto.
In consideration of the cessation as before mentioned of the port and Island and territories of Lagos, the representatives of the Queen of Great Britain do promise, subject to the approval of her Majesty, that Docemo shall receive an annual pension from the Queen of Great Britain equal to the revenue hitherto annually received by him; such pension to be paid at such periods and in such mode as may here after be determined.
Lagos August 6, 1861

Signed: Docemo – His X Mark
Telake – His X Mark
Rocamena – His X Mark
Obalekolo – His X Mark
Achebong – His X Mark

Norman B. Bedingfield
Her Majesty’s Ship PROMETHEUS
Senior Officer, Bights Division

W. McCoskry
Acting Consul

Commander Bedingfield brought his ship, the Prometheus into the river (Five Cowry Creek) and invited Oba Dosunmu for a conference aboard the ship. Dosunmu was informed of the intention of the British Government to convert the anomalous protectorate into an avowed occupation and requested to sign a treaty of cessation. Not having his chiefs with him, Dosunmu refused to do so and two or three days were given to him to make up his mind.

When the draft treaty was first submitted for his consideration at the palace (Iga Idungaran) at Isale-Eko on 1st August, 1861, Oba Dosunmu refused to sign any paper “giving up his country”. He was then threatened by Commander Bedingfield with the bombardment of the town.

Again on 5th of August, the Acting Consul, William McCoskry and Commander Bedingfield went to Dosunmu at the palace, this time with a guard of marines, who were landed and drawn up outside the King’s Palace. The draft treaty, containing only article I, was again submitted. It was read over, translated and interpreted into the Yoruba and Portuguese languages to those around Oba Dosunmu, when the fear at once arose amongst the “white cap chiefs” (Idejo) that they were about to be deprived of their rights to the land of Lagos by such a document, which they believed, aimed at the abrogation of all private rights of property which they had held from time immemorial.

Consequently, they protested vigorously against the signing of that treaty as the draft then stood and solemnly declared that the Oba had no power to give away their lands (traditionally, the Oba of Lagos owns no land, except for his palace. The land of Lagos is vested, by tradition, on the Idejo (landowning) white cap chiefs).

Dosunmu then convinced the Commander and Acting Consul to insert such clauses to the one article submitted, which would satisfy the white cap chiefs that the land of Lagos was not being ceded to the British Crown, as they depended on the land for their livelihood and it belongs to them. The clauses were inserted and Dosunmu signed the treaty the next day. However, the white cap chiefs refused to ratify the treaty.

Governor Freeman arrived on 22nd of January 1862 as the first governor and discovered that the treaty had still not been ratified. He held several long palavers at Government House and declared that he had found the cause of the problem. He states that Dosunmu claimed that he was forced to sign a treaty that he did not understand. The Governor believed that this was false since the treaty was translated into Yoruba and Portuguese. The Governor also states that he was able to convince the white cap chiefs that the British Government was not taking possession of their land and that the treaty was finally ratified.

However, the treaty was signed by Commander Norman B. Bedingfield for the British and Dosunmu, Telake, Rocamena, Obalekoro and Achebong for Lagos.

Apart from Dosunmu, the other names as they stand have no meaning in Yoruba. Herbert Macaulay tried to make sense of them. Telake, he said, was Talabi wrongly spelt. Talabi was a relative of Dosunmu and a prince of royal blood. Rocamena he interpreted as being intended to refer to one Apena, who was a magistrate in Lagos at the time. Obalekoro, he thought, was a wrong spelling for Obanikoro, who was the Archbisshop of Lagos Island. Achebong, he recognised as Ashogbon, Commander in Chief of the King’s bodyguards.

Macaulay emphasised that none of the white cap chiefs, the Idejo, who own Lagos, signed the treaty.
The Idejo include

The Oniru Family, (They owned Iru. Iru=Victoria Island & Maroko)

The Oluwa Family (Oluwa=Apapa)

The Ojora family (They owned Ijora)

The Onikoyi family (They owned Ikoyi)

The Oloto Family (they owned Oto)

The Onitolo and Aromire Families (together they owned Idumota)

The Onisiwo Family (They owned Tarkwa Bay and Ogogoro Island)
Etc.

Very interesting,

Also to add

Elegushi family - Ajah, etc

[quote author=ndu_chucks]Its a free country na. If the others want let them open their own offices. The man is getting the publicity he wants without any advertising costs. [/quote]free country indeed

Obiagu1: Fashola is indirectly saying, Fk you Yorubas, I don't want you in my Lagos. Go back to your villages
From increasing LASU tuition which an average Yoruba cannot afford to shutting out Yorubas from their major business/source of income (taxi business) in Lagos.
Who's going to take over? Your guess is as good as mine

Rubbish, whether yoruba or Igbo I do not care, If anyone is a parasite to lagos then please go back to their village.

If you are a lagosian then good. We Lagosians are irrespective of tribe

Funkymallam: Unstable as water.
Smh.

what do you mean ? Because I agreed with Rhino ?