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Katsumoto: What sort of argument is that? Do you mind telling the federal presence in Somolu, Ketu, Ikeja, Epe, Ikorodu, Badagry, Ijanikin, Agege, Mushin, etc?Thank you |
afam4eva: I thought i explained this thing to you sometime ago and you accepted.You explained using the FCT and the Abuja anology and I accepted but I would not accept Nigeria taking credit for Lagos because we have had 4 capitals in Nigeria so I still do not understand what makes Lagos different Lagos being a commerical capital today is not into Law like FCT. it was by default people say it is the commercial capital and not by constitution. Thus businesses can move to other regions if they like and no one is forcing any one down. So lets stop this rubbish that Lagos was built with Nigeria money because no one forced anyone. Not that we are not grateful but we did not force anyone. |
[quote author=Musiwa,.]afam , the igbos had no money in any nigeria bank after the civil war. most igbo people had already taken their money from nigeria banks when the war broke out. Awolowo gave them 20 pound from nigeria money, but the north had no money ... most of them were money from yoruba people. What can 20 pound buy. In the 70's 20 pound will buy you this car.[/quote]Are you minding Afam and co, when they hear 20 pounds, they think of the current 20 pounds now |
afam4eva: The war happened in eastern Nigeria and human beings and properties were lost. From your logic, it means the 7-point agenda of yaradua was also a post-civil war recontruction. Alh_harem, biko you're smarter than this.Haba did you read the link ? Yes or No |
afam4eva: No, it was not just lagos island. So, are you going to say that Alausa is the capital of Ikeja and not other parts of Ikeja? or that FCT is the capital of Nigeria and not other parts of Abuja? Lagos Island was just where the government house was located.Then what makes Cross river or Kogi differnet from Lagos ? What makes Abuja different from Lagos ? Some of you people are funny. We have had 2 capatals before Lagos and 1 after Lagos so what is the fixation of Lagos ? |
[quote author=Ekwy + Nwa]@ bitter end Pity your sorry Iyoroba tribe, leave successful Igbos out of your mumbo-jumbo self pity, SE is better than SW excluding Lagos state that was developed by the federal government owing to its previous status as former federal capital.[/quote]LOL SMH for you !!! Lagos Island is different from Lagos and even that Calabar was the former capital, Why don't you migrate their ? Abi was Lagos the first and the last capital Before Lagos :- Lokoja, calabar After lagos:- Abuja so what makes Lagos differnet ? Mumu |
Afam take your time to read the link |
afam4eva: Provision of Jobs? Were this jobs limited to only easterners?You asked for Post Civil-War Reconstruction and I provided it. Why Eastern Nigerian alone ?? Was it only eastern Nigeria that face the war ? If I remember quite correctly it was the mid-west and the west that faced it as well Although more focus as YOU COULD SEE FROM THE LINK was on eastern Nigeria. On east central states alone (Today's SE) 800 million pounds was spent on facilities and structures |
afam4eva: How can Awolowo use cocoa money to give Igbos 20 pounds when he was the finance minister of Nigeria and not the premier of western Nigeria. Btw, why did the Igbos tat owned millions in Nigerian banks not given back their money.Technically baifrans had Zero money in the banks and you know that. All baifrans had either converted their money to baifran note or redrew everything before the actual war. Also Baifra even stole money from Nigeria central bank. There were not a lot of Igbos that had money in Nigerian banks Those that did I am sure only a few had more than 20 pounds The Igbos that remained in Nigeria did not have to go through all that. 20 pounds policy was not Igbo money and you know that !!! Imgine giving 20 pounds to millions of Igbos. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- House that they built yes, was the same gesture done in the South-south ? Yes or No Moreover were Germans give back their houses ? Yes or No |
- Provision of job - Gowon set up SNDP (second national development plan) worth 1602 million Nigerian pounds - Industries like Nkalagu cement, Asaba textile industry etc Transportation spent was - 205.7 million pounds Education - 117.3 million pounds etc Here is how the money was spent http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=BL5JFkiS4hEC&pg=PA86&dq=post+war+reconstruction+biafra&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qQd_T_jkM8eY1AWFje2ABw&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=post%20war%20reconstruction%20biafra&f=false |
Yes there was. Cocoa money from the west was used to give Igbos back 20 pounds to get their lifes together Also houses and were given back to them, That was one of the major project Gowon did for the Igbos I would bring out links to support my claims Now |
Why are people still using MTN ?? What a shame |
Onlytruth: You raised some points here but the points were raise as if they are chiseled on stone and unchangeable. You should at least admit that before the Nigerian civil war, that we were good in politics.Before which Civil war ? That was the worse political series of mistakes any region could make !!! My friend that was not good politics. It is NOW I mean after GEJ presidency people are starting to respect Igbo politics and not before any civil war. Moreover that respect starts and ends people likes of me and you not with the main populist. |
Eko Ile: Instead of siting on NL moaning and groaning about Tinubu as if you are his long lost disgruntled babymama, why not just spend sometime to educate yourself about the people you spend so much time criticizing... How many times I go educate you and also deliver you from your ignorance?You link is since august 2011, we are in April 2012 that is about 8 months since that article came out !!! I do not just criticize tinubu or ACN. I have to put them on their toes so they know people are watching and they cannot just promise and don't expect people to be keep tabs on them. |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]The bolded does not happen anywhere on earth. If they want the Presidency, they should fight for it by playing the political game like everyone else. Shikena.[/quote]LOL When I said "give it to them" I did not mean it literally. |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]The point I was hoping to drive home is that, my Igbo brothers are not savvy at all in the political game. They do not have the necessary skills required to win a Presidential race. No one disputes the fact that every Nigerian has a right to contest, but no one will give any particular person or tribe the Presidency for nothing. Igbo politicians need to forge meaningful alliances with the SW or the North, else, no Igboman will ever be President in Nigeria. The alternative to playing the game is to continue to wish that the country fails and disintegrates so that an Igboman can rule in Biafra. This is the sad truth. Tell me, which governor in the SE can one honestly say is a good candidate for the job? Ngige will not be the ACN flagbearer except if he wants to be used as a bargaining chip the same way Ribadu was used. Soludo could not even win the governor's race in his state, how will he become the President?[/quote]Ha Alliance could be made within a day. No be Nigeria politicians ![]() My brother Ndu Chucks, Igbos don't want Biafra. I can tell you that. The reason they come on Nl to shout Biafra is because they feel that Nigeria is cheating them which is false but some chose not to believe and try to feed others with the same hate they have in their own heart. Someone like Rhymes or Afam could even live in Lagos or someone like Olodostein could live in Kano all their lifes so long as they are treated as indigenes of those places. Igbos as a people are individualistic much to their advantage for colonisation. Tomorrow if their is an Igbo president, Igbo Lagos state governor, FCT minister is Igbo and CBN governor is Igbo. You would NOT hear Baifra again !!!! Yes because that is their nature. ![]() They like the Idea of controlling things it is just them, I am kinda getting use to them and their attitude now So 2015 lets give it to them so we can have peace. At the end of the day I would not want Yorubas or Hausas to feel marginalized, same applies for the Igbos !!! Let them have it, who knows the man might actually change Nigeria |
[quote author=Sam_Ikenna]First, I agree to the bolded. Whoever says we're disunited is repeating this worn-out cliche. In democracy you cant get more united than it already is. Its only in war time that a nation can achieve close to 100% unity. Talking about we should do this or that to get to Aso rock is not gonna happen. What we should do is stand up for election and reach out to other regions, if we win - fine, if not I say shove it and move on. No region did this or that for us before we voted for them and we're not about to lick anybody's bottom for that. If GEJ does well - good for him, if he doesnt then thats his headache, its got nothing to do with me or any other Igbo. Like I said earlier, in the end its about poverty or better life so my question is - who do you think will deliver it? Who do you think has the gut to cut to the chase and solve Power, Education, Fulani vs Berom, 10 million Almajiris, increase wealth, modernize and put Nigeria back to greatness? who will do that? What if hes Igbo - do you choose him because he got it or do you reject him because you cant stand Igbo?[/quote]You are very correct. Someone like me could really careless whether in 2015 it is Igbo or Ijaw or Yoruba or Huasawa, All I just want is a good Nigeria for everyone so we all can smile. |
ACM10: Stop making mockery of yourself. Which keyboard comes with punctuation marks? It's hightime you and Alj_harem gives some acknowledgement to google interpreterLOL google interpreter for where ? What website is that that converts English to yoruba ? |
jmaine: Una don come again https://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff390/ShaneDawg021/th_cheeeeesy.pngOga Jmaine, you no contest ? Make Ekiti paropo enter contest na / |
1virus: Dede afam! I will be happy if an igbo leader (politician) emerge as presido come 2015. As far as am concern IGBOs are d most disorganize group in this contry. We always think hausa,yourba and d rest are our prob, no! we are our own problem. No one-ness. Ojukwu berrial is a good example of my quot. 4rm picking of organizing committe 2 donation of money It was a disagrement galore 4rm ur so called nigeria presidents. D very day we unite and say we need that seat am 200% sure no tribe will say no to it. Our politicians dont care about us. Igbos holds d most important ministarian office 2day watin them don do with it. 4rm finance to aviation, power etc. I even learn apart 4rm sanusi being d gov d rest are igbos. What else do we need but UNITY ??I don't know about one-ness, No group is one in Nigeria I can tell you that. Igbos can not get more united than this. Even the yoruba and the hausa we all talk about are not as united as you make them look so Yes Afam has a point on this. From the last election, it is clear that 2015 is Igbo chance if they real want it but at the end of the day it all depends on the candidate Igbos bring out. If Ndigbo make a mistake by bring out a reta.rd, then be rest assure that the middle belt and SW is gone. Right now I can tell you that the middle belt and the SW are irritated by GEJ. Now To appease the north, One way of doing that is by building a railway through GEJ that connects the northern states 2. More northerners in your carbinent 3. Reduce Aljmaris by building up institutions for them To appease the SW 1. By doing true federalism 2. Constant electricity To appease the Middle belt 1. true federalism 2. Security I would expect SS to automatically vote for the Igbo leader. that is it, you have not only targeted the leaders by also the youths. All we the common man want is ONE that can make Nigeria better for us. We don't care if he is Igbo yoruba or hausa. We just want the country to move forward. |
[quote author=ekt_bear]People oriented gestures are nice. But you always have to ask, who is paying for this? Where is the money coming from?[/quote]Good question. BTW why is Eko Ile not telling us about the railway service connecting the SW together ? At least if Tinubu is serious, we should be seeing the plans by now, 2015 is around the corner so what is happening ? |
CyberG: OnlyFATTESTLies cannot stand that Ikenna called another person Nwanne? Like a white guy calls a black guy "bro" brings out the KKK racist in aliens like racist AmONLYLies! Ha! One day, you and your racist and tribalist Odedede0 will kick the bucket and leave normal people in peace!LOL now this is funny ![]() @ Ndu chucks danuwana ndu chucks, zan kasance tare da ku ![]() |
Darui: Stereotyping is bad for you. |
D sage: @Bittyend may God bless u.For alj harem,i wi jst advise u to read more abt Nigeria foreign policy since political independent in 1960.U wi realise dat all our former head of state excludn mayb murtala&Buhari are pro-west.I agree with you, our former presidents were pro-western but THAT sir does not mean we are not the ones hurting ourselves. The west controlling Nigeria economy does not in anyform makes me feel inferior. I know one day God would give to us a good leader even better than Awo and we would be out of the bondage one day. Until then pointing fingers at westerners is just deceiving ourselves and failing to take responsibility for our own actions |
bittyend: IBB wasn't a Western but he was the most loved president Nigeria ever had by the West - go figure. Open your eyes and stop burying your heads in some medieval book written by camel jockeys.LOL, IBB was NOT our only president for 50 years you know ? Lets start from Nnamdi to Gowon, Obj, Shagari, Murtala, Abacha etc surly all these people were not all used by Westerners. In fact let even say they were all used by westerners, Is it the westerners fault they allowed themselves to be used rather than think for themselves ? Is it ? It is a case of a man killing another man with a gun and saying it is the gun's fault not him. C'mon !!! |
It is amazing how we keep blaming the west for everything. Let be really here, IBB and co were not westerners but Nigerians like you and I and they allowed themselves to be used or should I say they destroyed our "great nation". Let me give you an example, a company like Hitv or Innoson would not be patronized by Nigerians because they believe it is substandard but would go to made in England or Made in china products just because it is from abroad but not from Nigeria even though the product in Nigeria is better or still has room for improvement. It is not the west that is telling us not to patronise our indigenous company, it is Nigerians like you and me that have allowed ignorance (and sometimes tribalism) to blame ourselves to see OUR OWN SONS AND DAUGHTERS SUCCESSFUL. Again take a look at our newspapers. Rather than make a topic as Mr Uche or Mr Ola was last night murdered by Mr Aminu(just an example) rather they would say A yoruba man was murdered by a Fulani herdmen. the the ethnic dimension introduced ! That why there is separation in those two ethnic group. I am yet to see a foreign newspaper say "A Scottish killed an English man". About the religion, for crying out loud. Religion should not be a reason for separation or fighting in Nigeria. Also It is not the white man's fault. Even among Muslims we fight, Sunni and Shia. Among Christians they fight as well. Protestants and Catholic. So did the Westerners tell Christians to be fighting among themselves ? No. The government system. In life there is always an era. One dynasty comes and other's die. This is the era of democracy where the people hold the power and not some Old man who was given the power for free from his father. Most powerful empires in the world always leave an era of rule and go to the next if not rebellion would start. It has been taught in history over and over again. Health is the same, people that still take Ogbo, Tsimansa, Udu nwalika ogwu etc you can and no westerner is stopping anyone I can keep going on and on |
Again Dede1, their are pensioners all over the country dying of poverty even though they have served the nation for more than 30 years. Is it fair that some elements in our society are stilling their saving ? Yes or No knowing fully well they are too old to work but they still have responsibilities. |
uihebom: am igbo my self,but dis matter have got noting to do with igbo hausa or yoruba.so shusshh. the woman thinks shes a comedian by tell Nigerians she made 82million from selling pure water not even table water. she's daft,its like she doesn't know that there is something call audit firm that can check her so called EVA water.she is igbo so we should hide her and protect her from the authority.look i hate when traders comments in dis forum.thief na thief.weda black or albino igbo yoruba or aboki theif na thief.thank you, sometimes you just have to wonder how some people reason |
Na wa oh Allah ya kiyaye mu RIP |
Hmm the politics in Nigeria and implications of decisions hmmm, |
Good. wadannan mutane fasikai ![]() Maiduguri da kanuri mutane should do the same |
shymmex: ^^^^^That was how the Ilaje claims and counter-claims started.Are you minding them ![]() |
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So 2015 lets give it to them so we can have peace. At the end of the day I would not want Yorubas or Hausas to feel marginalized, same applies for the Igbos !!! Let them have it, who knows the man might actually change Nigeria