₦airaland Forum

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=802667.msg9549464#msg9549464 date=1321219304]The greatest improvement in the life of your typical Nigerian occurred during OBJ's 8 years. Could and should he have done more? Yes. Did he fail on some major issues? Yes.

Nevertheless, he is the best president Nigeria has had so far. And in my opinion, not a failure.[/quote]Maybe so but at what cost ?

increment in a commodiaty we are bless with ?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=802667.msg9549297#msg9549297 date=1321218049]This is not true. And you know it. The lot of your typical Nigerian was far better in 2007 than it was in 1998. Granted, not clear how much credit OBJ should get for it.[/quote]1998 was not abacha

I am refering to 1996-7 during the peak of his power. Fuel prices were 11-20 naira a liter

a loaf of bread was 20 -30 naira and made living very afforable.

abacha was a very detribalised Nigerian, and mixed his government up

the issue yorubas and Abacha had was because of MKO, thus it was just a natural process not to like him.

Whereas IBB did not like abacha because abacha was no longer under him, thus he killed him.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=802667.msg9549247#msg9549247 date=1321217681]OBJ was not perfect (far from it), but was not a failure.[/quote]really, then abacha too was not a failure as well.

because abacha made life more comfortable for Nigerians than OBJ

also shagari

Aigbofa:
Gorilla war ko, Chimpanzee war ni. You yearn a lot of opata my friend.

LOL opata, wetin be that.

the name might be a yoruba name, I am not sure, all in all guerrilla war, yes.

Achebe is one of the most respected Nigerian both home and abroad

you want to award Achebe with the same award you are giving to Kanayo, and co

You must be joking.

Achebe is in a different class

Relax101:
Yeah, there's much to life than oil. Hope you will travel up north to tell your brothers.
Can you please bring up the map of the midwestern region?

What do you mean my brothers, The Northern people have not benefitted from Oil since 1950 til date. Unless you mean like of ciroma and co.

https://www.waado.org/cgi-bin/Maps/willink_commission/map3.jpg

Dede1:
Why do not you ask yourself what actually necessitated the 1976 boundary adjustment if not crude oil and to make sure Igbo land is stripped of crude oil producing areas? I dislike the pretence people front on the Nairaland. The boundary adjustment was draconian in nature and did not help the issue of the silly slogan of “One Nigeria”.

It was not about oil, because if it was, yorubas should have a say in delta state but not.

Look the boundary and state adjustment was done based on the 3 main ethnic groups and vaiblity

Are you aware that the whole of SE zone is not igboland ? but was given to the SE

In anambra we have Igalas

Are you awara that the whole of Niger state is not Nupe land because of Borgu which is a yorubaland

same goes to Ondo of which there are Ijaws and Yobe of which there are hausa

it was not about oil

the SS geopolitcal zones was done to favour the Ijaws by OBJ, guess why ??

because of the much complain of the oil spilage etc also why do you think OBJ fough tooth and nail for GEJ ?

Let me remind you of IBB and the yorubas as well. till today the Swerener and Kwaraisn are still very bitter. because he divided Kwara into 3 places making them a minority in 2 states which is Kogi and Niger.

Rivers today was done by saro wiwa's wishes not Nigerian.

thus it is not reallu about Oil

Dede1:
Of course, I am aware you know Elias was Yoruba but such is not the case for many forum contributors.

Elias Teslim has been dealing in shady legal and social business before 1967-1970. He was the same Commissioner for Justice and Attorney – General of the Federation who brought trumped up charges of treason against Awolowo and others on behalf of his friend Tafawa Balewa in 1962.

He was behind Yakubu Gowon in 1967 when Bakassi Peninsula was ceded to Ahidjo’s Cameroon to make sure Biafra never had surface terrain to connect with the outside world.

LOL Elias timlis is not yoruba in fact the name sounds Ijaw to me.

Dede1, you know yoruba names don't you. He might then have been yorubaiszed person but needless to say how the one behind the Bakassi peninsula to cameroun.

During the war, Ojukwu wanted to turn the war to a gorilla war of which the soliders would run to cameroun and back back and fight later.

Gowon made a deal with cameroun to block the BAIFRA SOLIDERS (Not the people) from entering cameroun and in return bakassi would be given to them.

It was a sign deal and in fact I would loom for the document if I see it, and post it here.

this was in 1968 or so

then after the war, cameroun has been disturing Nigeria about the sign document.

Obj was reported to the UN and was given the ORDER to follow protocol and gave it to cameroun.

thus the 5 oil wells were not given to Ondo but bendel

Relax101:
So what is the problem?
The topic says people in govt during OBJ military ERA adjusted the boundaries so they could have some oil wells in regions where it does not exist.

The boundary between Delta, Edo, Ondo needs to be visited again.
Just looking at the map makes me wonder.

Very wrong, then I guess you did not read the articule then

Yes the Ondo edo and delta needs to revisited because if it was done based on ethni groups and oil wells then Ondo should really be twice it's size.

Bendel was a mixture of different ethnic groups of which each of them have lands, for example the Akoko people of edo state, the Ilaje people of delta state also the itsekiris of delta state

read this part just so you know it was not about oil

"Moreover, because parts of Bendel had gone to Ondo, there were five oil wells very close to the boundary. Initially, the Ondo people wanted the royalty to be shared 50-50 because they were very close to the boundary between both states.

That was in 1988. The following week, the  then Ondo governor  called a press conference and told the media that I forged the  map of Ondo – Bendel States to remove oil wells from Ondo to Bendel.  "

so henry101, if at all there is any boundary dispute, then it should be the Ondo people fighting to have there land and oil wells back but NO, as you can see, there much to life than oil !!!!

okstol:
@Alh.Haram, d economic advantage is dat a proper revenue will be generated and accounted for from d mechanic village. Why i said so is bc, mechanics don't pay tax. The funny thing is dat u can't get them (whether with olokpa or not). Most of d time when I goes to d mechanic workshop to get my wheels done, u will see them taking on their heels. Why? cos olokpa is after them coz of tax evasion. So putting them in dis mechanic village will surely help d state government to contain such. My two cents shaa

Correct sir, very good initiative i must say

Relax101:
When was the boundary adjustment made? And what led to these adjustments?
Did you in anyway read the post?

Yes I read the post every single word of it.

According to you, you were saying it is greed that made Nigeria give Bakassi away but it was not.

Boundary adjustment started in 1960 not just 1966 or so are you and Dr omoguia want to put.

Boundary adjustment started way before all the so called oil wells and bakassi, rivers imo etc

that is why I said we should go to the foundation

macjive01:
nekede and orji are the same as ENUGU?

is there any resemblance in their spelling, love ?

the pictures, does it deplete the real working condition in the autovillage or a random picture ?

manny4life:
Great that you understand the environmental aspect, 

I will start with the social aspect before the economic aspect

The social aspect comes to play when you have these men and women who are mechanics, come together under one umbrella for a common purpose. They share ideas perhaps on further improving working conditions, work-related complaints and comments amongst themselves with their unions, assistance of each other, perhaps volunteering, exploring different diversity, it can improve on mechanic education ----peer-to-peer mentoring etc. I mean the opportunity is endless i.e. if they utilize their time and resources judiciously.

Economic --- It promotes healthy competition such as better offering of goods and services, removal of  or lesser restrictions to newer entrants, easy regulation of mechanics including certification, increase in knowledge, experience, improvement to personal finances, etc

I cannot begin to list so many things but I hope u get the idea

abi if I no understand i have to ask na

Hmmm thank a lot

I see, it means this is actually a good initiative then. Kudos for this

Relax101:
Whoever was in govt. from 1966 to 1980 did more harm to Nigeria.
Efik people meant nothing to some people.
I am suprised they had to add the northern part of Cameroun to Nigeria and give out southern Nigeria to Cameroun.
Ohh Foolish and greedy, selfish leaders!!!
Thank God Omoigui spoke it exactly the way they handled business in the past.
All because they want some people to be put in a tight corner.

Haba henry101, it is not them

rather I put those in power around those between the 1963 to 1966

if the foundation was good, then those in 1966-1980 would have built on it, well the foundation was not good so blame the source not the latter.

manny4life:
The socioeconomic and environmental impact to Enugu state; that's an advantage.

Hmmm manny4life, I do understand the environmental impact given that normal mechanics pour there oil waste in water ways etc

I am not too sure of the socio-economic Impact.

please explain

Nice, I guess this would reduce mechanics on the road side and also quake mechanics

although Macjieve, what would be the advantage of this development to Enugu state ?

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=801609.msg9546607#msg9546607 date=1321195151]@aribisala0, your junk poem is filled with hatred, racism, and the kind of inferiority complex disguised as superiority complex, which led to the holocaust and the way blacks were treated as animals in the new world. You sir, along with your fellow bigots, should hide your head in shame.  mgbo piafuka gi isi.[/quote]

FACE:
His life was saved at the hands of Nigerian Army because he was able to speak Bini and prove tha he was not Igbo.

The unspoken bit was that "horrible things" (cold blooded murder by the Nigerian army as confirmed by Igbo returnees) were done to those who could not prove their non-Igboness.

The Lt Col knew he was sending them to their graves, otherwise, he would have sent them southwards towards Enugu. Jesus was also kissed by Judas !

On the boundary adjustment, how were they able to determine that a portion of the oil lands in Imo was in Rivers when there was no physical/natural boundary to establish a demarcation ? How did he decide that the same community (Egbema) should be split between two states because of the need to let Rivers state have some of the oil revenue from the oil wells in the community?  

The same thing happened to Abia state where the adjusted boundary went deep into Abia state (past Imo river boundary)  to cede oil to Rivers state. Abia has since recovered more than 60 oil wells from Rivers, but the bulk of the revenue still goes to Rivers.

I am sorry sir but the same was done to every group in Nigeria concerning the boundary adjustment

what makes the Igbo ones peculiar or different ?

Nupe kingdom was divided to between Niger and Abuja

the Igala was divided and given to anambra state

the yoruba and Ijaws were the worse hit, Yorubas were made Minorities in 2 states by IBB aka Niger and Kogi

Borgu in Niger and Okun in Kogi

Ijaws were divided into delta, balysea and rivers

etc

the division of has NOTHING TO DO WITH OIL

htajz:
alhjhrem/jason stop talking to yourself haba

why can't I post to Jason, are you his wife or what

LOL na wa o

Areosapien:
Hmmm, Fashola is really trying. He should also come plant some flowers in this space-age floating city.

Haba, how do you plant flowers there, to what effect would this do ?

Let me remain you that Makoko is NO solid LAND but a floating city on it's own.

dplordx:
@Harem:

You are awesome! So bread and akara na Naija Burger? I might do that business here!

Abi, if you want to start the business, Jmaine knows a lot about the business. Na real money spinner

chima12:
ND/SS/Ijaw should go and claim their land back from Ondo and move it back to Benin/Delta states.The Ijaws should take their land out of Ondo.

Oil Oil Oil

Now who told you that the oil in Ondo is for Ijaws ?

did they ever tell you that Ilajes or itsekiris are Ijaws ?

take a chill pilll

Dede1:
@POST

Is it not funny that the Commissioner for Justice and Attorney – General of the Federation, Dr. Teslim Elias was the one to decide the boundary between Nigeria and Cameroon in 1970?

Elias, Yoruba, was the Commissioner for Justice and Attorney – General of the Federation under Gowon when the Bakassi peninsula was ceded to Cameroon under Ahmadu Ahidjo in 1967 so that Biafra’s access to outside world through Cameroon should be blocked. What does anybody expect from Teslim Elias three years later when the civil war ended in favor of Nigeria?

If not for the crude oil and Biafra issue, one wonders what prompted Obasanjo administration to set up Justice Mamman Nasir’s Boundary Commission in 1976 when the only boundary issue was between Nigeria and Cameroon.

Again, the people of Efik in Bakassi peninsula meant absolutely nothing to Elisa, Gowon and Obasanjo as this interview had indicated.

I can remember that Elisa Teslim is a yoruba name

LOL you people are just impossible people. One day you people would choke on this your yoruba obsession o

Beaf:
Ilesa?
The trademark of the freely slapping Aregbesola hangs like an odious pall over ACN. Its the same culture from Osun to Lagos.

LOL I KNOW YOU WOULD BE HERE.

jmaine:
You no serious oo!  . . .Mainland na correct place to be . . .especially when you dey behind Akoka like moi . .enough paparazi .

Very true egbon. Akoka is a place as well.

it is like the place never sleeps, especially the inner akoko area

let not forget Major general Haruna that IBB removed as the chairman of Arewa forum to be changed to Useni

and his ciroma goons that have kept the north down ever since Bello times