₦airaland Forum

kingoflag:
Nigeria is finished. And I think I'm backing off worrying myself about that place. Everything is trivialized based on Language, Ethnicity and Tribe. A situation where a clear wrong is done to a people but certain sections choose to sit on the sidelines and suffer just because their Village Kin is in power, doesn't bode too well for my mental state. I'm not used to this. Injustice is injustice thats how I was taught. I wasn't taught to accept pain and suffering just because I want pain and suffering for the next man; while letting our oppressor smile  and laugh like nothing is wrong on Earth.

The events that will/won't occur starting from tomorrow will go a long way in shaping my impression about Nigeria and will go a long way in deciding if I'll also start believing the stereotypes I hear about (The Different groups in) Nigeria.

But I refuse to shout myself hoarse from the comfort of my home, while a very huge majority of the country say they are fine with the Staus-Quo. . . corruption, poverty, and hardship. If Nigerians want let them get it themselves,but I believe I've done enough screaming on their behalf. I thought they were just blind, I never knew they were deaf as well.

I'm out. Best of Luck to you all in your quest for salvation.

Yes that is what is going on and that is the most annoying part of the issue. That is why you would see them calling others Parasites which is a new slang used to describe all other Nigerians apart from themselves.

But my brother, please don't give up. that is what they want us to do but we should not give them the pleasure of that. thanks

moreover all of a sudden

Edo is no longer a south-south state

even more surprising NC/middle is no longer in the political mix of SS/MB/SE ?

see what tribalism can cause, It make people think like fishes out a pond

these people are robbers bast.ards

Beaf we are still waiting unless these questions are unanswerable ?

smh

realchange:
edo state is not really "south south". nigeria is confused. why are people not protesting in all se plus rivers, akwa-ibom, bayelsa, cross rivers and even delta?

people in asaba are more worried about nlc strikes if it happens from monday

when did Edo not become "really" "south-south" ?

Are you the one to chose who is south-south or not ?

chima12:
This cow stop lying.Today you claim your in edo state,the next day you claim your in calabar.There is no protest in SS/SE.Parasite.

Yes I am a parasite for demanding accountability from my government

Yes I am a parasite devoid of tribalism and petty sentiments such as SS/SE

Yes I am a parasite for standing AGAINST TRIBALISM IN POLITICS AND CORRUPTION.

Yes I am a parasite for speaking the truth.

Yes I am a true PARASITE.

Very soon Fashola would account for tinubu's expenditure. Just very soon

ACN PDP they are all the same

[quote author=Omo_Tier1 link=topic=839503.msg9903238#msg9903238 date=1325796477]The truth is, GEJ and his 'thieving' cabinet have been confronted with these and several other valid questions and they have failed completely to provide any response. Rather like biblical 'pigs' they are hell bent on driving Nigerians into the sea of despair, poverty and untimely death![/quote]it really appears so. That is why I get annoyed when goons try to support corruption because of there tribalistic brains. We keep giving them chances

During Obj = give him a chance

During yaradua = give him a chance

during IBB = give him a chance

during abacha = give him a chance etc

I am fled up of given the FG chances without accountability. We can't just keep giving FG chances, One day it has not stop isn't it ? well this protest is the only chance for that.

BEAF I really really hope you can answer those questions in truthfulness

Beaf:
^
Do you think the states and LG's in those countries do fuckall, but receive beggars money?
Go and check those economies, the governors actually work and their LG's actually deliver. They are not a set of lazy runts addicted to freebies. You cannot manufacture absolute zero and expect a high minimum wage (except as an armed robber, thief or parasite).

Get your state and LG working so that we can have a higher minimum wage.

I prefectly understand your point. You are talking of diversity in the economy and reduce out over dependence of OIL. Yes I and others get it and It makes perfect sense. Also your second line of argument is that the removal of subsidy would kill the cabal in one stroke. Yes we perfectly understand the importance of it and thank God GEJ though of it as well.

Now protester understand this issue and understand the importance of the removal and how it would "boost out economy" according to Sanusi.

Here are our questions.

1. How can we diversify if there are no infrastructure in place like the chemical plant in port harcourt used when agricultural subsidy was removed.

2. Would there be subsidy if the FG/NNPC has a refinery ? I mean we would be refining what we produce and thus the cabals would have died a long time ago. And would it not make more sense to build the refinery now before it is too late.

3. Why is NNPC and government giving false figures to Nigerians ?

4. To stop benefit smugglers of fuel, do you think the best thing to do is to either  a) close the borders   or   b) remove subsidy ?

5. Why are the cabals not arrested since the FG branded them as thieves or "benefit thieves" ?

6. After this deregulation and since there are no reservoir our NNPC could store petrol in, would there not still be benefit thieves ? I mean according to Madueke she said 3 naira per liter is the money they use for storing petrol with other private companies. Now to me that is still stealing or is it not ?

7. Why can't the FG show us the tangible infrastructure or development so as to gain the trust of the people before the removal ? I mean I love GEJ for his calm nature but I think you just don't push people to the limit without them reacting.

Once again thanks for Your calm reply and I really hope that GEJ presidency would be a stepping stone to greatness in our beloved country.

sniperwolf:
Subsidy removal is not a bad thing the only bad thing is the timing

so you know then why are you saying NLC should give the government a chance ?

Beaf:
I have always argued that any movement that is backed by sentiment rather than solid philosophy is bound to fail. The removal of the subsidy is painful no doubt, but every man and his dog is convinced that it is of immense benefit to the country.

A cursory look at any crowd of pro-subsidy demonstrators immediately throws up the fact that almost every one of the footmen is either middle class or lower middle class and the leaders are all members of the top echelon of the elite. The working classes are almost totally absent; no rewires, carpenters, labourers; its just richly dressed folk. Hmmm!
It is easy to conclude that, for obvious reasons of the abject lack of any backing philosophy to the protests, there is no spontaneous outburst of red rage from the working classes, the very people the "revolution" organisers claim to be fighting for. There is no philosophy that keys the working classes into the "revolution," sentiment can only go so far.
From observation, it is either the poor are willing to test the promises from Jonathan's govt and are refusing to be used, the we are observing solid proof that the subsidies benefit only the rich. It is a rich mans "revolution."

Rich men tend to be more exposed to corruption, therefore it is no surprise that the organisers have shied away from rallying against theft in govt, the astronomic wages of the NASS, the uselessness and frightful corruption of state governors and LG chairmen, the PIB etc; the sorts of issues that affect the food on the table and opportunities presented to the common man; the very things that will drag each and every one of us unto the streets. Instead, it is a protest of selfishness for some, political scheming for others and an opportunity for eye-popping bigotry from the rest.

I am deeply perplexed that there educated folk who have abandoned all guidance of critical thinking and engaged personal sentiment/greed in place of hard logic and ironclad principles. The result has been thin, contrived crowds that have failed to connect with hearts. A losing game and a lost opportunity to demonstrate for a better Nigeria.

Shame on them.

I am sorry but I have to say you are paid to do what you are doing on Nairaland

1. You have not addressed the issue, rather you are biding around the bush and you post has no substance

2. It seems you don't know what people are protesting for or maybe you know but rather IGNORE it since it does not affect you.

3. 90 % of the protesters are pro-GEJ thus this is not about OUR president but the policies

4. To stop benefit smugglers of fuel, do you think the best thing to do is to either a) close the borders or b) remove subsidy ? Please answer.

5. The government since 2010 has not showed any improvement of production in any sector of our economy, is it the same government that would all of a sudden us the money from subsidy right ?

6. Why is the government giving us wrong values ? Based on what Iweala said, we spend 1.3 trillion on subsidy but based on the figures given to us by her and sanusi, we spend 900 billion on subsidy. Also 2010 figures should 400 billion was on subsidy thus why are this numbers not consistent ?

7. Why are they comparing us to other countries ? It is an insult on our intelligence by doing so. We collect different minimum wage etc

www.nairaland.com/attachments/609333_fuelsubsidylindaikejiblog_pngceb73d15478f80742891a26c8d4b4040

sniperwolf:
NLC should give government a chance

A chance on what ? removall of subsidy ? What is the subsidy paid for and how come ours is the highest ?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/609333_fuelsubsidylindaikejiblog_pngceb73d15478f80742891a26c8d4b4040

deor03:
Can you counter his post with your analysis, most of you guys don't even know what you're fighting for.


Brilliant

do you know what people are protesting for ?

what you said brilliant for is what people are protesting for but ONLY before the removal of subsidy not after.

^^^^^^^^

Oh so now you know it is serious ? I though subsidy was to make Nigeria "international recognised" ?

Some of you people are pure clowns walihi

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=807895.msg9618687#msg9618687 date=1322077162]For Alh and the rest of the revisionists/claimers. Go through this page and see for yourself. Learn about the names of our produce,etc. Start on page 369. You can go on page 368 just incase you think we "stole" any other foods as well.Best of wishes brother. :

http://74.6.117.48/search/srpcache?ei=UTF-8&p=igbo+food&fr=yfp-t-701&u=http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=igbo+food&d=4752600705008366&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=12735aff,68b9adf1&icp=1&.intl=us&sig=3tibT6RD5mOjScDtNIdKXA--[/quote]dude show me cited sites or history books

if not just keep all those edited websites and links to urself

there is not EGUSI in Igbo, it is of recent due to Nigeria concept

Egusi in yoruba means, grind/crush it more / grind or crush the seed more

in sengal it is called agushi

spam bot again

alj_harem

mbatuku2:
Melon is also called Ngbam, like they do in my own neck of the Igbo wood.

Probably the western Igbo who were migrating eastward may have learnt another word for it or the yorubas learnt it from them.

My point is that melon(ngbam) is indigenous to Igbo, maybe the additional name might have been borrowed somewhere.

True, ngbam is igbo word for melon but melon seed is different. I am glad you are honest

yorubas did not learn it from them

Nigeria did not know egusi before the yorubas and hausawa

odumchi:
Have soups become that ancient that their origins are unknown?

Egusi is a type of melon. The soup is prepared using the melon seeds.
"Egusi soup is original to the Igbo people of South East Nigeria" http://www.imdiversity.com/villages/global/Global_Kitchen/EgusiSoup.asp

Okra soup is also Igbo. In fact the English word "Okra" was adopted from the Igbo "Okwuru".

Bitter leaf soup (aka Ofe Olugbu/Ofe Onugbu) is of Igbo origin.

Ogbono/Ogbolo originates from the Igbos and the Cross River peoples.

I am highly disappointed at you MOD

from the same website as Afam4eve

afam4eva:
Egusi is native to Igbos. Read this: http://www.imdiversity.com/villages/global/Global_Kitchen/EgusiSoup.asp

Very diappointed that you people would go to a cooking website instead of a history book

SMH

well this is my own silly website as well

alj harem:
I am an Igbo girl and want to cook a yoruba soup called egusi using the Igbo style

http://naijamaican.co.uk/Recipes.aspx

you can't change the fact that EGUSI IS NOT IGBO, IT WAS INTRODUCED BY THE HAUSA AND YORUBA(ESPECIALLY)

WHAT DOES EGUSI MEAN IN IGBO

Ofe onugbo is Igbo we know that. because yorubas and hausa don't eat bitter leaf soup unless mixed with normal spinah or a very little added to egusi

I am an Igbo girl and want to cook a yoruba soup called egusi using the Igbo style

http://naijamaican.co.uk/Recipes.aspx

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alj_harem

I am waiting for you to explain the zaki baim to me apart from it does not relate to the discussion but I am waiting

Relax101:
You are the silly one.
So Abacha had 10heads.
So OBJ had the powers to kill people in Zaki Biam and Odi.

Odi was because of militancy

Zaki biam you can explain to me

Relax101:
Obasanjo was trying to win back his support from the int'l community after his failed bid for 3rd term was quashed.
Bakassi was the only scapegoat He used.

Now you are sounding a bit too silly for this thread

OBJ had no POWER TO ANNEX A PART OF THE COUNTRY TO ANOTHER.

Bakassi was already a signed deal during 1967-70.

the petition against Nigeria after the civil war was taken to the UN around 1980s or so for the claim of Bakassi by cameroun.

what has Obj got to do with this

Read more about bakassi

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=WDVHeK2cNTkC&pg=PA166&dq=bakassi+nigeria+and+cameroon+treaty&hl=en&ei=dFrATsrFBori8APpyrivBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=bakassi%20nigeria%20and%20cameroon%20treaty&f=false

Lagos – A manufacturer, Mr Edwin Ibude, on Saturday said high cost of production due to the erratic power supply, still posed a challenge to the manufacturing sector in Nigeria.

Ibude, the Group Executive Director, of a manufacturing company, said at the ongoing 2011 Lagos International Trade Fair.

NAN reports that the company is a local conglomerate with interests in lubricants, plastic packaging and pharmaceutical products, farming, haulage and supermarkets.

“There are challenges peculiar to all the manufacturers. Source of energy is an issue and cost of production is high because of cost of energy.

“Our roads are in deplorable conditions which have effects on maintenance and life span of our vehicles.

“Water is also a challenge to us because, before you set up a plant, you have to think of how to source your water,” he said.

The group executive director said that access to fund was also a challenge as the situation made it competitive when doing business outside the country.

Ibude, however, stated that the Local Content Act would encourage local manufacturers to be actively involved in the oil industry.(NAN)

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/manufacturer-identifies-energy-supply-as-main-challenge-facing-manufacturing-sector/

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=802667.msg9549464#msg9549464 date=1321219304]The greatest improvement in the life of your typical Nigerian occurred during OBJ's 8 years. Could and should he have done more? Yes. Did he fail on some major issues? Yes.

Nevertheless, he is the best president Nigeria has had so far. And in my opinion, not a failure.[/quote]Maybe so but at what cost ?

increment in a commodiaty we are bless with ?

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=802667.msg9549297#msg9549297 date=1321218049]This is not true. And you know it. The lot of your typical Nigerian was far better in 2007 than it was in 1998. Granted, not clear how much credit OBJ should get for it.[/quote]1998 was not abacha

I am refering to 1996-7 during the peak of his power. Fuel prices were 11-20 naira a liter

a loaf of bread was 20 -30 naira and made living very afforable.

abacha was a very detribalised Nigerian, and mixed his government up

the issue yorubas and Abacha had was because of MKO, thus it was just a natural process not to like him.

Whereas IBB did not like abacha because abacha was no longer under him, thus he killed him.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=802667.msg9549247#msg9549247 date=1321217681]OBJ was not perfect (far from it), but was not a failure.[/quote]really, then abacha too was not a failure as well.

because abacha made life more comfortable for Nigerians than OBJ

also shagari

Aigbofa:
Gorilla war ko, Chimpanzee war ni. You yearn a lot of opata my friend.

LOL opata, wetin be that.

the name might be a yoruba name, I am not sure, all in all guerrilla war, yes.