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olawalebab:
Funny how some people turns facts aside. I don't know when criticizing a president turn to ethnic bigotry and yoruba affairs.

they can't answer because they have no point to prove. They lOOK STU.PID now as they sound so unintelligent and da.ft

even the so called beaf that schooled in UK has reduced all his years of schooling and expercience to something that should be left for KIDS like POINT B and co

He now sounds so stu,pid that I bet very soon GEJ would sack him because his propaganda no longer works for GEJ in fact I am happy people are not aware of Beaf and how anti- Nigerian he is.

GAR3TH:
Why do people constantly glorify basic, unnecessary information. Is there some kind of competition on this site in which one tries to out do another? [size=17pt]Biafra did not in any way build any aircraft nor was the Ogbunigwe anything spectacular,[size=33pt] it was a glorified exhaust pipe[/size][/size]. We all have computer so why don't people use them to get REAL information instead of the one written with sentiments. If anything your just making yourself look immature and bringing down biafra's name.
BTW Nigeria does produce its own aircraft (trainer) called the air beetle. though we only assemble them from parts brought over from Oregon.

thank you, that is why it is best you allow them to delude themselves in self appraisal

it is funny isn't it
here is the anti air craft missile they are shouting about

just disgracing Nigeria all over with there false claim

any non- Nigerian would think it is one big tecnological feet just like the Jewish scientist or Nazi ones
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Gbawe:
Alhaji, what else do you expect from someone with "Yoruba" in his brain 24/7? Even a child knows that the critics of GEJ , currently, come from every region of Nigeria to include that of Mr. President. That is what abject incompetence does i.e it will force everyone to turn against you !!!  

Yet, some who are bigoted beyond redemption would rather make this a Yoruba issue. It requires an extremely toxic level of sheer hatred to tie Yoruba folks as guilty here. Are we the only critics of GEJ? What kind of person even wakes up daily to blame his problems and failures on others if not a total loser?

Futhermore, it is entirely revisionist and dishonest for folks , speaking out of sheer malevolent ethnic hatred, to ignore fact. They would rather accuse Yoruba folks of all evil possible yet let me throw a challenge to the entire forum. Can folks show me the ethnic group , when they had nothing to gain, that supplied the most prominent Nigerians who took to the streets willingly , and in the largest numbers, in support of GEJ when the Turai cabal hijacked the presidency?

I see, they have made the presidential office and ETHNIC MATTER rather than developmental issue.

What I find amazing is how they Picture MR PRESIDENT to be perfect

Forgetting that no one is perfect, but u also have to understand that Beaf works for GEJ, so I do not expect anything better from a bigot

Point B aka ezeuche and another stu.pid Igbo mumu that thinks that by licking GEJ a55 he would make baifra out of the SS.

Now my question WHO ARE THE ETHNIC BIGOTS HERE ?

Those that criticise the president even from there culture or those that see any opposition as a bigot ?

omaojo1:
Your case has really gotten out of hand.

To me, you are one of the Nigerians without conscience.

Let's assume it is even a lie, why the indefatigable support or position?

Even if SRs is corrupt, it is a reflection of the ever pervasive corruption in Nigeria.

And you left the substance of the matter and by engaging in this cheap blackmail.

If SRs is corrupt, create a thread for that.

I want to believe you are wiser than what you are doing here.

Remember, it is our country and we want it to be better than what we have now.

The poster called beaf is working for GEJ and as such would do anything to convince people the GEJ is perfect/PDP

He has forgotten that Only ALLAH is perfect and NO MAN is perfect.

dayokanu:
When the SW people were criticising OBJ too I guessed it was due to ethnic bigotry

Are you minding this Bigoted ideeiots that see everything through tribal lens

These people have primitive brains and as such can not think beyond there akpu and Ofe nsala

Lord Naya:
The Eze has a right 2 xpress his opinion. If u dont like wot he said then go and kill urself. Nonsence!!! As 4 u alj boko haram a man, oops i meant 2 say boy of your age should not be acting so silly and sily. U shud be ashamed of urself because u just finished your salah and u are here throwing distractive tantrums. Pig. Igbos are not silly or foolish. I expect some idiotic yarobae bigots 2 derail dis tread as usually. Mtchieeew!

The only bigot here is YOU AND YOUR STU.PID LEADERS THAT SEES ETHNICITY IN EVERYTHING.

Now listen good u bigot, WHAT WOULD BE THE JOB OF ETHNIC AFFAIRS PERSONAL IN LAGOS ?

answer this question or forever hold u silly brain

Beaf:
Its all about [size=14pt]ethnic bigotry[/size], bruv.
Even the wrongs that were started when GEJ was a mere kid are heaped on his head by bigots and out of job power brokers/ hegemonists. It shows just how far down the line Nigeria has fallen.
It will take good minds and dedication to bring us back to reckoning. The Nigerian is Nigeria's worst enemy.

DUDE stop using words you do not know the meaning of

WHAT IS ETHNIC BIGOTRY IS Criticizing OUR PRESIDENT ?

WHO ARE THE ETHNIC BIGOTS ?

IS JONATHAN Criticizing BECAUSE HE IS FROM A SECTION OF THE COUNTRY OR BECAUSE HE IS INCOMPETENT ?

WHY ARE IJAWS Criticizing HIM AS WELL IF IT IS ETHNIC BIGOTRY ?

Stop posting stu.pid things if u have nothing better to post just sleep or go on licking GEJ pay cheque. Ideeiot

[quote author=High_Chief link=topic=490918.msg9518535#msg9518535 date=1320887537]^^^You really dont like anything Igbo, but I have noticed you are so passionate about this Innoson[/quote]funny, what do you mean I don;t like anything igbo

what have you seen to think I do not like anything Igbo ?

rubbish

PointB:
@Poster, search no further, Sanusi Lamido, CBN Governor has the answer:

You know what I find funny

How you turn this into a yoruba thing,

so u mean Igbos don't insult GEJ

U mean yorubas did not insult OBJ,

you mean kanuris did not insult Abacha

very funny

lies

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kopite:
Guys please lets stop this image assasination bid and face facts, , this woman was a director in SPDC (shell) for many years. could she not have had the means to purchase a building worth 30million dollars (20million Euro). i wont fall to this scam even as i wont just ignore the fact that our leaders are corrupt. ever since diezani came in power, some hungry hyenas that benefited from the previous administration have been fighting dirty, may be because their bread was taken away from them suddenly and fell out of favour with mrs allison. i cant be fooled again. am not saying she is clean, but i kept a close tab on this woman. lets appreciate her please.

I would tell you something now

Even IF DANGOTE, Adenuga, GEJ, Obj, IBB, danjuma, Edwin clark, Tinubu etc should have the money to buy 20,000,000,000 euro house then

IT IS NOT FROM THE NORMAL MONEY THEY ARE ENTITLED TO BUT FROM STOLEN FUNDS OR SOME OTHER CORRUPT PRAcTICES

Beaf:
Look at this fuckry of a photoshop job!


Dem go take desperation wound small pikin wit laf o!
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Here is another newspaper. if u notice , it is not the same as the first

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Here is another one

It is not photoshop

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Beaf:
Yeah, same story, but quoting unnamed Nigerians sources. Abeg, go and deceive fools.
The woman has blocked a lot of loopholes and is determinedly pursuing the PIB, so corrupt Nigerians who feel cut off are fighting back.

Why the need to forge and photoshop? Na wa for desperation!

it is not fake or photoshop

here is another One

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Wait o bia beaf !!! [size=20pt]What do you think you are trying to do here ? Are you trying to cover for Madueke buying a house worth 20,000,000,000 euros from austria ?[/size]

I hope you are OK

anyone that still think u are just a normal poster must rethink, You must be working for GEJ or PDP

one of the 2

Oyige, so if u are an ukwani man, can you consider yourself as an edo man instead of Igbo

because to me you have to pick one, ukwani is tooooooo small to be called its own ethnic group, I mean do you see my point ?

Bliss4Lyfe:
Which Northerner? David Mark?

sanusi

OAM4J:
^You don't get it, what is premature or dead irrelevant to you is hot and interesting to others. NL has to provide a forum for discussion for all categories of people as much as possible.

spam bot again alj_harem

Thanks

all these states are shocking

Oke ogun do they know how small ogun state is for it to be divided into 3 states

Perhaps Nigeria would end up with 70 states or more.

As I said in the earlier thread, Nigerian need to grow up and learn to live with people

they should get clues from the Tiv and Idoma in benue

In fact the writer forgot Edu state for the tapa people in Kwara

That new states are on the agenda of the National Assembly with respect to expected constitution amendment is no longer in doubt. The focus is on which of the new state movements is likely to get the nod, even as new realities from the Senate appear to stand against the target. Regional Editor, OLAWALE RASHEED, writes on the politics of state creation from the country’s inception and likely new states to emerge from the impending exercise.

MANY justifications have been advanced for the push for new states out of the existing 36 in the federation. Similarly, countless reasons have been canvassed to support non-creation of states. Indeed, a couple of days ago, calls had been made for some states to be merged. The argument had been that some states were becoming non-viable. Politics of the time is, however, driving fast towards the emergence of new states between now and 2015.

Many citizens worry about the effects of further balkanisation of the federation. Those in support of new states, however, regard it as part of national restructuring to ensure equity and justice.

Since the amalgamation of the Southern and Northern protectorates of what now is Nigeria in 1914 and the subsequent creation of states in the country, the issue of state creation has always been a strenuous and delicate matter. Instructively, all the states in Nigeria, apart from the Mid-Western State, were created by the military government that had ruled in the past.

The last National Assembly took the bull by the horn as it started a process for the creation of new states. Although the Assembly could not complete the business, the new and present National Assembly has picked it up from where the last Assembly stopped. Shortly after its inauguration, Senate President, David Mark, and the new Speaker of the House of Representatives, Aminu Tambuwal, gave indications that creation of new states would feature prominently in the proposed amendment of the 1999 Constitution. A stamp of legislative authority has been given as the presiding officers of the two chambers have declared their commitments to the project.

There also appears to be a presidential support. President Goodluck Jonathan, while seeking the presidential mandate, had cause to promise new states in some zones of the federation. What is more, some Ijaw leaders see the Jonathan presidency as an opportunity to add another predominantly Ijaw state to Bayelsa. Checks also revealed that key actors in power and out of power are resolutely behind the project.

The framers of the constitution are conscious of the possible agitation and so the procedure was deliberately complicated. The constitutional requirements for creating a new state are as follows:

According to the 1999 Constitution, to create a new state requires that such creation be supported by at least two-third of members (representing the area demanding the creation of the new state) in the Senate, House of Representatives, the House of Assembly in respect of the area and the local government councils in respect of the area that the state will be created in. That is not all; a referendum on the new state must be approved by two-third of the people in the area where the state is to be created and the result of the referendum approved by a simple majority of all the 36 states of Nigeria supported by a simple majority of members of the Houses of Assembly. After all these stages have been completed, the state is then approved by a resolution passed by two-third majority of members of the Senate and House of Representatives.

This stringent guideline has not deterred successive civilian governments from commencing moves towards state creation. In the Second Republic, A Senate committee set up in 1981 under Senator Abubakar Tuggar shortlisted 50 new states to be created. The then National Assembly approved the list for subsequent referendum in accordance with the provision of the constitution, but the process was aborted when the military overthrew the Sheu Shagari-led government in December 1983.

In the current republic and even with those stringent constitutional provisions, the legislature has received more that 40 requests for state creation. Among such proposed states are Igboezue, Adada, Aba, Njaba, Orlu, Orimili and Orashi (South East); Anioma, Oil Rivers, Ogoja, Afemaiesan, Toru-Ebe and New Delta (South South); Oduduwa, Ijebu, Ibadan, New Oyo, Oke-Ogun (South West); Apa, Idoma, Edu, Okun, Oya (North Central); Amana and Savannah, Katagum (North East); and Gurara (North West).

The underground scheming is almost akin to what happened in previous state creation exercise under the military. Most states created under Generals Ibrahim Babangida and Sani Abacha were due largely to the influence of highly placed people from the fortunate states. Even new state capitals were determined more by who was closer to the military rulers. Osogbo, for instance, got the capital of Osun due to such figures as Dr. Olu Alabi. Dutse upstaged Hadejia just as Asaba got the nod due mainly to influence peddling factors.

In the subsisting scenario, some of these personalities have promised their kinsmen a state of their own. What is more, some are hoping to emerge as chief executives of the new states after the expiration of their existing tenure. Hence, there are elements of personal and tribal agenda in the on-going exercise.

Conditions
But part of the criteria used in the past for a state to be created included the economic viability of the area demanding the new state, especially the ability and potentials for sustainable internal revenue generation, provable cases of demographic strength and underdevelopment arising from denial of access to human development; provable evidence of socio-cultural affinity and geographical contiguity; the need to redress lopsided cartography and boundary lines resulting in endless border and resource-based conflicts; provable instance of consensus among the demographic groups demanding the new states.

Others included the ability of the new states to provide their structure and resources to take off; ability to ensure internal security and cohesion and peaceful co-existence with their neighbours and the existence of human resource and personnel to run the state.

Talks of merging current states emerge
Some of these conditions that, perhaps, seem to be witnessing erosion in some states and this might explain the alarm raised by the Senate last Thursday where it claimed that some states in the country were on the verge of bankruptcy.

The development pushed the upper chamber of the National Assembly to mandate its committees on National Planning; States and Local Governments; and Finance to study the situation and make recommendations on possible remedial measures to avoid total collapse of the economy of the states.

Some of the states said to either in critical conditions or unhealthy are Ekiti, Plateau, Benue, Edo, Adamawa, Cross River, Enugu and Taraba.

Others are Ogun, Kogi, Yobe, Ebonyi, Ondo, Kaduna, Oyo, Bauch, Bayelsa, Nasarawa, Gombe and Rivers.

Against this backdrop, some senators have suggested the merging of some of these states, though there have also been other suggested solutions, such as readjustment of the revenue sharing formula. The question now is with the current agitation for more states, how does this new development affect the process believed to have been set in motion to actualise the goal?

Current agitation
A zone by zone analysis focussing on the politics of the exercise can be done as follows:

South East zone
Of the six geopolitical zones, the South East has been the most vociferous in the agitation, citing the need for zonal parity as it has only five states, while others have six or more. To the advantage of the zone, it currently has the deputy Senate president, the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF), the deputy speaker of the House of Representatives and, strategically, the coordinating minister for the economy.

This connection within the administration is, however, generating divisions, rather than the unity needed to make the project a reality. The deputy speaker, Emeka Ihedioha, is believed to have his eyes on a Njaba/Orlu state to be create from Imo and Anambra states. But the deputy Senate president, Ike Ekweremadu, and the SGF, Chief Pius Anyim, appears to be poles apart on this issue. Anyim is reported to be interested in the creation of Old Ohaozara/Igboeze Orimili out of the present Anambra State. Senator Ekweremadu hopes a new state can emerge from Enugu State.

An Igbo writer attempted to resolve the riddle when he analysed the history of state creation in the South East. According to him, South East zone was first divided into Anambra and Imo states. Anambra got divided again into Enugu and Anambra states, the same time Imo was divided into Abia and Imo states. At last, Ebonyi State was created from Enugu and Abia states. So, the next or sixth state in the South East is obviously to be created from both Imo and Anambra states.

Apart from the above, there are those who also believe the Igbo can never agree to get a new state, even as the race is being blackmailed based on alleged ruling presence of Igbo in Delta and Rivers states. Interests from the North which are waiting in the wing to stop a new state for the Igbo cited the notion that the Igbo, indeed, have seven states as they are substantially present in controlling stature in Delta and Rivers.

But only last week, the Ambassador Ralph Uwechue-led Ohanaeze Ndigbo rose from its meeting in Enugu and reiterated its quest for an additional state in Igboland.

In Enugu State, agitators for Adada State creation have called on the National Assembly to stick to the guidelines spelt out by the Senate President Mark who emphasised that the exercise should be an opportunity to right the wrongs of the past which have resulted in perennial misgivings among many Nigerians.

Adada State also prominent
Leading the Adada group was a former speaker of the defunct Eastern House of Assembly, Igwe Charles Abagwu. Also in the lead of agitators were chairman of the state Committee on Actualization of Creation of Adada State, Major General Godwin Ugwuoke (rtd); chairman, movement’s Tactical Committee, Chief Cletus Opata; and the spokesman for the group, Chief James Ugwu.

Who will have the upper hands among these heavyweights spearheading the Igbo cause is only a matter of conjecture. Anioma state, from current Delta and Anambra states is, however, being touted as a likely option.

Why Anioma is likely
The creation of Anioma State is, perhaps, one of the oldest in the country. Records show that agitation for the creation of the state dates back to 1951. It is an attempt by the Igbo-speaking people of Delta State to have a state of their own. The word, Anioma, was a coinage used by the late Anioma state agitator, Osita Osadebey, to group the Igbo-speaking people of Delta State in Aniocha, Oshimili, Ndokwa and Ika areas.

According to Emeka Esogbue, a native of Ibusa in Oshimili North Local Government Area, the proposed Anioma state will also bring together other Anioma communities, such as Ndoni in Rivers State, Igbanke and Ekpon in Edo State and other Anioma communities in Edo, Imo and Rivers states.

Igboezuo State
Perhaps, the most convincing of all the agitations for state creation in the South East, agitators of Igboezuo state just want the creation of a state from the five states in the region to make up for the imbalance. By not citing cultural affinity or historical antecedents as reasons for its creation, it appears proponents of Igboezuo state have demonstrated correctness of perspective and have placed the overall interest of the Igbo nation before any other mundane consideration. What is their argument? To them, Igboezuo is like a union of the five Eastern states; the new heartbeat of the Igbo nation.

They are proposing that some existing local governments from the five states of the region be excised to form the new state. From Anambra State, Orumba North and South local government areas; from Enugu, Awgu and Aninri local government areas; and from Ebonyi, Ivo and Ohaozara local government areas. Abia will cede Isuikwuato and Umunneochi, with Imo producing the bulk of the local government areas by giving up Okigwe, Onuimo, Ideato North and South, Isiala Mbano and Ehime Mbano. With these, the new state will be ready to take off with 15 local government areas with headquarters at Okigwe.

Njaba State/Orlu State
In the vanguard of Njaba state is former Governor Achike Udenwa, while Senator Hope Uzodinma is behind Orlu state. The proposed Njaba state, according to its promoters, should be carved out of the 12 local government areas that make up Imo West (Orlu zone) of Imo State and Ihiala in Anambra State. The local governments are Orlu, Orsu, Oru East, Oru West, Oguta, Ohaji/Egbema, Nkwerre, Nwangele, Isu, Njaba, Ideato North and Ideato South. Njaba state, according to them, will ensure fairness as regards state creation in the former Eastern Region.

They recalled that the region was split into Imo and Anambra and from Imo; Abia was carved out while Enugu was created from Anambra and out of Abia and Enugu, Ebonyi later emerged. They, therefore, maintained that equity demands that the sixth state for the area be carved out of the present Imo and Anambra states. In the same senatorial district, agitators of Orlu state want the 12 councils that make up the zone to be accorded a state status.

South South zone
The zone, though with six states already, seems also set to get additional state. Those in the know said the president is under pressure to ensure the creation of a new state for the Ijaw in the Niger Delta. The argument is that as the fourth largest ethnic group in Nigeria, Bayelsa alone should not be the only predominantly Ijaw state. This is the genesis of the proposed Toru-Ibe state which is generating heated controversy between the Bini people and the Ijaw of the Niger Delta.

The Bini and Itsekiri recently accused the Ijaw of annexing their riverine areas to increase the land areas of the new Ijaw state. The opposition has been very vociferous. The Ijaw have also responded, claiming that the said riverine areas belonged to them as the Bini met them while on migration.

The Ijaw of Edo State said their demand for the creation of Toru-Ibe state from Edo and Delta states was to save them from the oppression they claimed to be suffering in the hands of the Bini people, which they said was more than what the Israelites suffered while in bondage in Egypt.

They described the claim by the Bini that all Ijaw riverine communities in the state belonged to them as “a bundle of lies and deliberate falsehood carefully crafted to bamboozle, misinform and mislead governments of Nigeria, especially members of the National Assembly who must be very wary.” Spokesman for the Ijaw in Edo State, Professor Christopher Dime, insisted that the Ijaw would never cede an inch of their land to any ethnic nationality in the country, adding that “the Ijaw had been the aborigines and the customary owners of all land covered by the proposed Toru-Ibe state.”

He said “despite their posturing, blind guessing and recent attempts at historical revisionism, it is clear that the Bini do not know and, indeed, cannot know when the Ijaw came into the Ijaw lands of present Edo State because the Ijaw were on the land long before the Bini migrated from Yorubaland.

“That the Ijaw were among the oldest ethnic nationality in Nigeria and, indeed, in the West African sub-region is not in doubt. That they are indigenous to the Niger Delta and its fringes to the West, East and North is equally no news. There is a pool of incontrovertible scholarly evidence and documentations in support of these claims. Among them is Chief Jacob Egharebva of blessed memory, the best known and celebrated Bini historian with Bini royal blood, who in his A Short History of Benin, said, ‘many, many years ago, the Bini came all the way from Egypt to found a more secure shelter in this part of the world. After a short stay in the Sudan and Ife, tradition says that they met some people who were in the land before their arrival.”

Agitators of Toru-Ebe State are said to aim to bring together the Ijaw in Delta, Ondo and Edo states. The demand for the creation of the state is, therefore, aimed at satisfying the long-standing yearnings of the people for self reliance, peace, stability, self-determination and development.

According to Dr. Felix Tuodolo, the clamour for the Ijaw to have a state of their own did not stop with the creation of Bayelsa State in 1996 and that agitation for the creation of Toru-Ebe State dated back to 1976. They are also insisting that Ijaw in Edo, Delta and Ondo states have become minorities in these states, a situation they believe can only be remedied if they are given a state of their own.
Appartr frome Dime, some of the other prominent Ijaw leaders agitating for the creation of this state include Chief J. O. Mieyebo, Lieutenant Colonel Edwin Okokolo Carter, Mr. V. B. Bamuza-Mutu, Brigadier-General Broderick Demeyeibo, Chief Edwin Clark, Rear Admiral Festus Porbeni (rtd), Chief Joshua Fumodoh and Chief F. J. Williams.

They asserted that the proposed Toru-Ebe State was viable with abundant minerals, oil and gas, river-bed sand and gravel, oil palm produce, timber, raffia palm for the production of industrial gins, mangrove trees for salt making, deep sea coastal and river fishing, shrimp and also farm produce in commercial quantities. The proposed state has natural landscape with beautiful beaches which can be developed into revenue generating tourist industry. The proposed state is also said to have enough human resources.

Beyond historical disputations, many insiders appear sure that if new states are created, Toru-Ibe is certain to be one of them.

North Central zone
Many are clamouring for new states in this zone as earlier listed. A factor very potent in the exercise is Senate President David Mark, an Idoma from a Tiv dominated state of Benue. Mark is seen by his people as the one to liberate them from the alleged hegemony of the Tiv.

This is why the creation of Apa state is very central to the political life of the Senate president.

His detractors were even as mean as to suggest that Senator Mark is to secure the creation of the new state and emerge as its first governor. This is if, as rumour mongers noted, he fails to secure the presidency come 2015.

According to the Senate president, the Assembly would break the jinx that states could only be created by the military. He assured Nigerians that the committee on the review of the 1999 Constitution would be fair to all in the consideration of states to be created.

The Mark factor is, thus, seen as set to stop a very historic opportunity for the Yoruba to have another state in the zone. In the North Central, Apa state and Senator Mark hold the key.

South West zone
The agitation for new state is also very strong in the South West. Three prominent expected states exist in the zone namely, New Ijebu, Ibadan and Oduduwa.

Oduduwa state is facing challenges due to change of government in Osun state, in addition to other associated development in the state. This is especially so in view of the constitutional requirements.
The two leading movements are basically those of Ibadan and Ijebu. Minister of State for Federal Capital Territory (FCT), Ms Jumoke Akinjide, was upbeat about the chance of Ibadan state. According to the minister, the creation of Ibadan state is realistic and nobody should doubt it.

“Ibadan state, when created, will be one of the most viable states in the country. The reason, as you know, is that we have the Ibadan metropolis and the Ibadan less city. We also have strong economic potentials in view of the large number of people in Ibadan.

“In terms of economic viability, population and landmass, Ibadan ranks number one in terms of earning state position. If any state will be created, Ibadan state will certainly be one of them,” she stated.
But some analysts are pointing at change of government in Oyo state with a rationalisation that he minister may not be in a position to be so hopeful. While not doubting her good intention, the thinking of some pundits is that Ibadan state will be a mirage, unless the incumbent governor, Senator Abiola Ajumobi, pursued it as his agenda.

There is also the doubt as to whether Ibadan can stop the highly influential Ijebu from getting a state of their own in the new dispensation. The Ijebu are anchoring their agitation on records of history.

According to proponents of the new Ijebu state, its creation was long overdue because out of the old 24 provinces in Nigeria, only Ijebu province was yet to get a state, while three states had been created out of the old Sokoto province and two out of Kano.

But will the Egba let the Ijebu off the hook by backing the creation of the new state? Analysts premise that question on the history of rivalry between these two great ethnic stocks of Yoruba race, a competition a prominent Egba writer traced to political power struggles after the fall of the Oyo Empire and commerce, as to who controlled the slave market or route.

Interestingly, Ijebu and Egba lands extend beyond the present Ogun State with Ijebuland reaching up to Somolu and Epe and Egbaland extending to Oyingbo, Mushin and Abule Egba in the present-day Lagos State.

Sunday Tribune was, however, told that Egba and Ijebu elites are unanimous in the drive for the new Ijebu state. What remains, according to pundits, is for the new state governor, Senator Ibikunle Amosun, to publicly support the bid for the new state.

Proponents of the new state are, however, very hopeful of having a new state possibly rich in oil and gas, good sea port and a rival to Lagos State. Unless the state government opposes the new state, insiders are sure Ijebu state will beat the proposed Ibadan and Oduduwa states, if new state were to be created from the South West.

Oke Ogun State
But there is also the issue of the proposed Oke Ogun state. The creation of the state from present Oyo State is among the most prominent agitations in the South West. With a land mass constituting about 60 per cent of the present Oyo State and a population of about 1.4 million, the Oke Ogun area in Oyo North Senatorial zone believes it deserves a state of its own. Other reasons being given is that the area has for long suffered neglect as a result of the distance between the area and Ibadan, the state capital, which is as much as 130 kilometres, as well as lack of development in the area.

But according the proponents of Ibadan state, which is the main road block to the proposed Oke Ogun state, of all the former regional capitals in Nigeria—Enugu, Kaduna and Ibadan—only Ibadan has not got a state of its own. It is based on this historical fact that backers of Ibadan state believe that it will become a reality if the National assembly eventually considers state creation.

North East zone
Two new state creation movements are very prominent in this zone, namely Katagum, wanted out of the present Bauchi State; and Savannah state, out of present-day Borno State.

Historically, Katagum is a province which leaders have been agitating for a state for long. Possibly due to geopolitics of the state, Katagum, despite producing key national leaders, has not been lucky in the quest for a new state. It was one of the 50 states shortlisted in 1981 and one of the 20 recommended during the Abacha-led regime.

In the present scheming, Katagum is truly strategically placed to realise its dream. A likely new Emir of Katagum is a prominent leading player in the present power structure in the country. Additionally, decision-makers are bending towards the scarce values of equity and justice in treating the Katagum request.

But there is a possible new equation to the situation in the North East. With low-level insurgency ongoing in central and Northern Borno, many are proposing the creation of a new state of Savannah to cover Southern Borno, which, interestingly, is predominantly Christian.

Leaders from Southern Askira/Uba, Bayo, Biu, Chibok, Damboa, Gwoza, Hawul, Kwaya-Kusar and Shani local government areas of Southern Borno had constituted committees to pursue the ambition. What is hard to determine is whether the mainstream Borno political elites will support such a move.

The Savannah state proponents are facing the same challenge as those of Gurara state in North Western zone. The leader of the movement, Bawa Magaji, said the creation of the proposed Gurara state was approved by the Kaduna State House of Assembly in its resolution on November 18, 2009.

“The proposed Gurara state, with headquarters in Kachia, has a population of 3,383,207 and a land mass of about 28,393 square kilometres,” he said.

But will mainstream Kaduna elites allow the separation? And again, can the North West have another state, since the zone is already with seven?

In the meantime, Katagum holds the ace in North East zone.

North West zone
Agitation for the creation of Southern Kaduna state from the present Kaduna State has been on for a very long time, but the aspiration has never yielded any positive fruit, despite that many states were created by the military governments. Their cry received further impetus after the religious crisis which rocked Kaduna State in 2000. As a result of the crisis, a committee (leaders of thought) formed by former governor of the state, Ahmed Makarfi, recommended the splitting of the state. Motion for the creation of the proposed state was also moved in the Kaduna State House of Assembly in 2002. Upon the declaration by the National Assembly to create additional states in the present dispensation, agitators for the creation of Southern Kaduna have returned to the drawing board.

One issue that comes up each time the debate for the creation of Southern Kaduna state is raised is about where the state capital will be located. It was even said that this singular issue prevented the creation of the state by the government of the late General Sani Abacha in 1996. Although the proponents of the state seem to have accepted making Kaduna metropolis the capital of the new state, they are still undecided over the choice of the capital between two towns—Zonkwa and Kachia.

Options for National Assembly
Again, the process is complicated and allows for unhappy elements to spoil the realisation of the project. For the National Assembly, many are suggesting the creation of five new states, one per zone, minus North West. But the former leadership of the National Assembly suggested 10.

If new states are to be created, the nation may well be expecting the following states: Ijebu, Katagum, Apa, Anioma and Toru-Ibe.

But with the new development over the unhealthy state of some states, which is sending jitters down the spines of stakeholders in the affected states and has made some notable Nigerians to call for the merging of some states, the death knell of new state creation might have been sounded.

Additional reports by JUDE OSSAI, STEPHEN GBADAMOSI and BANJI ALUKO

https://www.tribune.com.ng/sun/images/stories/jan2010/amap30.gif

http://www.tribune.com.ng/sun/the-polity/5425-state-creation-bottlenecks-agitations-new-challenges

Beaf:
Even in places like Europe, I have been stopped several times by the police and asked where I am going, where I am coming from and what I am going to do. Those are standard police questions all over the World, Nigeria is not a lawless jungle where anything goes.

The police are well within their rights and duties to ask you where you are going and what for and if your answer is not satisfactory, to lock you away from sunlight.

So if I do not have a mission in abuja, I cannot go to abuja without being questioned ?

asha 80:
what a thread

Relax101:
Beaf U go wunjore pesin pikin o.
Sufri sufri.

what is funny about those pictures ? we have sickos in nigeria i no go lie

pls take your time to read it oduchi, thanks

With the origin of the Olukumi(that is i they really exist), I doubt they are have any relationship with the Yoruba, most likely they haveytheir origins in Edo. Some other things to consider are their population. What is the population of the Olukumi now? I doubt if it is over 10 thousand epople. Now go back sixty years to 1951, around the time the Anioma political umbrella was set up, what wouldve been theur population then? 100? I think that the Olukumi might be the descendants iof a single family or man who emigrated from the Edo speaking regions.

you need to read Origin Of Delta Igbo Indisputable -Uwuechue

http://edoworld.net/Origin_Of_Delta_Igbo_Indisputable.html



Indigenous Yoruba and Igala of Delta North(Aniomaland)

Delta state of the Federal Republic of Nigeria is made up of 25 Local Government areas (LGAs) and like every other state, she is represented in the Nigerian Senate by three senators. Delta state is thus carved up into three senatorial districts…Delta Central, Delta South and Delta North (Aniomaland).

Delta Central comprises eight LGAs and is inhabited by the Urhobos while Delta South also comprises eight LGAs and is home to the ethnic Ijaw, Isoko and Itsekiri while Delta North is home to the Ika, Enuani, Ukwuani sub-groups who are spread across nine LGAs.

The principal towns of Delta North are Agbor, Asaba (the Delta state capital),Ogwashi-Uku, Issele-Uku, Ibusa, Ubulu-Uku, Obiaruku,Kwale, Ashaka, among others. Her peoples are predominantly farmers, fisherfolk, businessmen, academics, bureaucrats and members of the defence and security forces. It is on record that at the dawn of Nigerian independence on 1 October 1960, nine(9) of the fifty-eight(58) indigenous commissioned officers of the Nigerian Army were from Delta North alone. Most famous of these was Major Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu who led the first military coup d’etat in Nigeria in 1966.

As of April 2010, the Chief of Defence Staff of the Nigerian Armed Forces and the Comptroller General of the Nigeria Immigration Service both hail from Aniocha North LGA of the said Delta North.

It is also on record that the Ekumeku peasant rebellion against white domination (akin to the Mau Mau rebellion in Kenya) mounted by the people of Delta North under Agbogidi Oligbo, the Issele Uku monarch and against the British colonialists ensured that Aniomaland was arguably the last part of Nigeria to be completely subjugated by the British colonialists! The Ekumeku War spanned the period between 1898 and 1929. Even the Sokoto empire fell in 1903,the defiant people of Delta North were still at the barricades.

Today,the predominant spoken language in the area is a hybridized dialect of Igbo but the people somehow do not refer to themselves Igbo for the simple fact that over eighty-five percent (85%) of Anioma people are said to have emigrated from Bini empire during the 14th and 15th century reigns of Obas(Kings) Ozolua, Ewuare and Esigie of the Benin Empire which lies immediately to the west of Aniomaland. The festivals, language, kingship systems of the people of Delta North appear to bear testimony to this fact even to this day. Possibly, they may have lost their mastery of Edo language on account of long separation from the Benin Empire and became subsumed in the dominant Igbo culture as a result of the fact of greater proximity to Igboland.

But Delta North also has, albeit unbelievably, an indigenous and living community of Yoruba and Igala speakers.

Aniocha North Local Government Area is the smallest, most northerly and most rural in the Delta state. It consists of 16 communities grouped into the three clans of Ezechima, Odiani and Idumuje.

Odiani clan comprises 8 communities which are said to have historically migrated emigrated from the Akoko area of Yorubaland during the wars which raged in that part of pre-colonial Africa during the 18th century. When they arrived at their present place of domicile in the Far North of present-day Delta state, the Edo(Benin) emigres and Ibos from the east of the Niger river had been on ground for a minimum of three centuries. Unable to communicate with the hostile people all around them,they courtesied all and sundry who they came into contact with“Olukumi” ,a word in the Akoko dialect of Yoruba language which means “my friend”.

To this day,the variant of Yoruba language spoken by my people is called Olukumi by neighbouring communities. Further east at Ebu,a migrant community of Igalas who came from central Nigeria in search of prime fishing grounds had developed and to this day,the people of Ebu still speak Igala language.

http://beegeagle./2010/05/01/indigenous-yoruba-and-igala-of-delta-northaniomaland/

also here is the king of oluku mi land



Deep in the heart of the Igbo-speaking people in Aniocha North Local Government Area of Delta State are Ugbodu and three other communities where Oluku mi, a derivative of Yoruba language, is the language of the people. BANJI ALUKO, who visited the communities, examines how close Oluku mi actually is to the Yoruba language and traces how the people came about the language.

HELLO, this writer said, while knocking at the door, and a young lady, emerging from the building, replied, ta ni yen? When the writer heard the reply, he taught it was a mere coincidence or that his ears were deceiving him. Of course, he had every reason to be surprised since he was not anywhere near the Yoruba enclave where such a reply can only be anticipated. After all, he was more than 100 kilometres away from the nearest Yoruba community; he was in Ugbodu, a town in Aniocha North Local government Area of Delta State.

While trying to decipher why the lady gave such a reply, what further followed put the writer in a more confused position. A girl of about five appeared and said, “mo fe ra biscuit.” Perhaps, the people are part of the Yoruba community living in the town, the writer guessed as he tried to find out from the lady.

“Are you a Yoruba woman; what is the meaning of ta ni yen?” The writer asked the questions at once. Reluctantly, she answered, “I am not Yoruba o, I am just speaking my language.” Apparently, she was not unaware of the similarity between her language and Yoruba language. The lady refused to entertain any further question about her language and asked him to go to the king’s palace or to the elders if he wanted to know more about the language.

At the palace, the elders still would not talk about the similarity between their language and Yoruba. They asked the writer to wait for the arrival of the king, who they said can only speak on the people, their language and their history.

The period of waiting for the king afforded one time to listen to the conversation and the discovery was nonetheless remarkable. Following closely the conversation between some elderly men and with a deep knowledge of Yoruba, one could establish a nexus between their speech and actions. In fact, some words and expressions could be understood.

Following their conversation with rapt attention, expressions such as Gbemu wa—bring palm wine, me wa nani—I didn’t come yesterday, me ri e—I didn’t see you, mu beer oka wa—bring one beer etc could be heard, albeit with an intonation slightly different from that of the Yorubas.

Seeing the desire of this writer to follow their talk, one man finally volunteered to explain the similarity between their language and Yoruba. “I believe you are a Yoruba man,” he said. He continued: “We are Oluku mi speakers but we speak a language that is very similar to Yoruba.” This he demonstrated by pointing out some words and expressions in their language (Oluku mi) which denote the same meanings as Yoruba.

He gave some examples such as ita—pepper, ogede lila—plantain, ogede keke—banana; ku wu se—what are you doing; ule house; osa – market; oma—child; o dowuo—see you tomorrow, e bo—welcome. After explaining some similarities between the languages, he still refused to talk about how the people of Ugbodu, in the middle of other Igbo speaking neighbours, came about Oluku mi. Like others, he maintained that only the traditional ruler of the town can speak about how Oluku mi became their language.

But after waiting endlessly for the king, his brother, Prince Adebowale Ochei, who later arrived the scene, volunteered to speak on behalf of the king, H.R.M. Ayo Isinyemeze, the Oloza (Obi) of Ugbodu. According to him, history gave it that the Ugbodu Oluku mi speaking people migrated from Owo/Akure axis in the present Ondo State between 9th and 11th century AD to settle down in Benin during the reign of King Ogiso of Benin.

He continued: “At this period in the history of the Benin Kingdom, the most neglected of the wife of the Ogiso gave birth to the heir apparent to the throne. After the woman gave birth to the child, a male, the nobles consulted the oracle and said that the oracle told them that the child should be killed for peace to reign in Benin Kingdom. At the end, the child was not killed as it was said that the child was too handsome to be killed, so a fowl was killed in his place.”

According to Ochei, this was the reason the Ugbodu people left Benin. “They felt that if a crown prince could be ordered for execution just like that, they could do worse things to strangers in their midst. As a result, they left Benin and came to Ewohimi, an Ishan speaking community in Edo State. Due to intra-tribal wars, they later left the place to settle down here in Ugbodu which is a shortened form of Ugbodumila, which means bush saved me in English Language.”

He further pointed out differences between Oluku mi and Yoruba. He said one notable difference is the changing of letter “j” in Yoruba words to “s” in Oluku mi as seen in words like oloja or oja which are rendered as olosa or osa and joko as soko.

With the movement of the people was the consequent change in their language as shown in their names. According to records compiled by Prince Humphrey Ojeabu Ochei, the immediate Olihen of Ugbodu, the first six Olozas bore Yoruba names namely Adeola, Aderemi, Ariyo, Odofin, Adetunji and Oyetunde. These early kings bore typical Yoruba names years and decades after the establishment of the Ugbodu Kingdom.

As the people gradually lost contact with their kinsmen back home, they began to gravitate towards the Benin and Edo communities. The resulting acculturative process gradually led to the adoption of Edo names among the people. Hence names such as Ogbomon, Ozolua, Izebuwa, Ogbelaka, Izedonwen, Osakpolor, Esigie Igbinadolor, Osaloua, Osamewamen and Ebor emerged as Olozas.

Since Ugbodu is surrounded by the Igbo-speaking Aniomas, it did not take much time before the Igbo Language started to interfere greatly on the people’s language. Accordingly, Igbo influence steadily and progressively made what has now become permanent inroad and considerable impact on the socio-cultural life as well as linguistic orientation of the Ugbodu people. With this, the Edo influence began to wane, resulting in the adoption of Igbo names in preference to Edo names. Thus from the middle of the 19th century, the general shift was from Edo to Igbo names. This can be seen in the names of Olozas, who ruled between the middle of the 19th century and late 20th century such as Dike, Ochei, Ezenweani and Isinyemeze.

Investigations conducted revealed that Ugbodu is not the only community where Oluku mi is spoken in Aniocha North Local Government as the language is also spoken in Ukwu-Nzu (Eko Efun), Ubulubu and Ogodo.

At Ukwu-Nzu, only few kilometres away from Ugbodu, the language is not also different. Although, the people are less emphatic about their history, nonetheless, the similarity between their language and Yoruba is evident in their names and greetings. “Oju e ma won ke,” meaning your face is scarce in Yoruba, was what a man said to his friend he accosted on the road. When Sunday Tribune approached the man, who gave his name as Ayo Oke, he shed light on his language and provided more examples between Oluku mi and Yoruba Language.

He said that “instead of saying e kaabo, we say e bo, meaning welcome and wa ni we yi, meaning come here;” He also gave example of words which virtually have the same meanings as the Yoruba language. Some of these include obe—stew; oni—today; ola—tomorrow; otunla—next tomorrow etc.

Another elder in the town, who spoke with Sunday Tribune, said that the name of Ukwu-Nzu before the Igbo Language “infiltrated” their language was Eko Efun (efun means chalk in Yoruba Language). He also attributed the efun in the name of their town to the rich prescence of white chalk in the town which he said the community was richly blessed with.

Presently, the biggest challenge for the people of Ugbodu and other Oluku mi-speaking communities is how to protect their language and culture in general. According to a native of Ugbodu, “the elders are more connected to the original Olukumi language than the youth. In fact, we have lost the real Oluku mi and what we have now is an Oluku mi that has been greatly altered by Igbo language. Most of the people who can really speak the language right now are the elders. Ordinarily, the real Oluku mi is like the Yoruba that is spoken in Owo in Ondo State. Someone from that place is expected to understand the language perfectly but right now someone from Owo might not be able to understand more than 50 per cent of our language. This language may die if care is not taken,” he said.

Another factor that also contributed to the decline of Olukumi, according to findings, is that there was a time in the past when an understanding of the Edo or Igbo language, was considered as a status symbol. According to an elder in the town, “An Oluku mi who spoke the two languages then was considered superior to others because it meant that he had travelled wide. This was the inferiority complex our people unwittingly created for themselves which we are trying to correct now.”

In protecting their language which is gradually being threatened, a revival process has been started. Part of this is that some of them now choose to give their children Oluku mi names and to sing and say prayers in Oluku mi. In some cases, some radical reformers and revivalists changed the names given to them by their parents from Igbo to Olukumi. The climax of the restoration process of their linguistic ethos and identity was the christening of the incumbent Oloza with an Olukumi name, Ayo.

Reacting to efforts aimed at protecting Oluku mi, Prince Adebowale said, “I am an Oluku mi man and I am proud of my language. I am not happy that Igbo language is interfering with our language. We are trying our best to correct the situation and part of that is what my brother (the Oloza) is doing by organising an Oluku mi reciting competition. We want to know the people who can speak the real Oluku mi without mixing it with Igbo or English.” As laudable as the task of protecting Oluku mi by the people of Ugbodu(mila) is, only time will tell how far they can go.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/sun/features/2357-a-yoruba-enclave-in-the-heart-of-igboland-story-of-ugbodu-others-in-delta-state

Agian there are no Edoid or Yoruba speaking people in Northern Delta. Like I stated earlier, the two main dialects spoken in Delta North are Ika and Enuani.

wrong again

they are edo and yoruba speaking groups in Northern delta

Yoruba aka Oluku mi areas are

Ukwunzu,

Ugbodu,

Ubulubu,

Idumu-Ogo

all of which are anioma areas of northern delta of which they speak oluku mi

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Uhh1AAAAMAAJ&q=anioma+yoruba&dq=anioma+yoruba&hl=en&ei=dEyjTs-SLoXLswapmMWKAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y

You said "agreed to join the union of Anioma with the rest of their neighbouring communities". When was this? The term "Anioma" was formed to make distinctions between the Igbo speaking people of Northern Delta and the Edoid speaking peoples of southern Delta.

refer to anioma web

http://www.ibusa.net/mysite/anioma2.htm

also anioma was invented in the 1980s during the during the separation of western Igbo which included Ukwuani

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=fFdeYB1lIPwC&pg=PA24&dq=anioma+yoruba&hl=en&ei=dEyjTs-SLoXLswapmMWKAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=anioma%20yoruba&f=false

When did this happen? First of all there is no such thing as the "Anioma ethnic group". Second of all, what are the 12 different languages? The only dialects spoken in Anioma are Enuani and Ika which are both a part of the Igbo language so what are the other 11 languages aside from Igbo?

No sir Anioma people have 13 languages which are

1.Igbo (Enuani,)
2. Ozzara,
3. Olukunmi (an extinct old Yoruba Language,)
4. Igara,
5. Ika,
6. Ukwuani,
7. Edo,
8. Odiani,
9. Utagba,
10. Aboh among others

Mods please unban alj_harem.

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