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PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 5:54pm On Mar 05, 2011
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PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 5:52pm On Mar 05, 2011
These are some more pictures.
The Weider is through with his work
and the carpenter will round up on Monday
The casting will commence on Tuesday
And the wood will be remove the upper week!!!

These are the pictures of the gutter roofing stuff
and it cost me around 500k (plus granite and workmanship)

PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 5:33pm On Mar 05, 2011
I tried to post the quotation for the electrical
but it was called spam!!!
So I have to do it this way,

PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 9:29pm On Mar 04, 2011
The Weider is still delaying the job o
once the casting is done and the woods removed
I will send you guy some more pictures!!!!
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 10:54am On Mar 04, 2011
Soon as I confirm from him, I will mail you his number

I will get back to you tonyte!
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 10:26am On Mar 04, 2011
@ Kuntash,

Man do you think I like to waste my hard earn moneyhuh
You think when I buy cement it doesn't pain me huh?
Or you think when I pay for omonile
it doesn't hurts me?
you think say if i see granite 20k for 20tons I no go buyhuh?

Let the readers know the truth.
and not mislead ppl
Abestors roofs do last
but you can't compare them to aluminium
that is why their prices are different.
you can't tell me because you are using abestos
that it is the best. NO WAY!!!!

Do this for me,
Get a sample of gravel and another sample of granite
and tell me from you church mind which you think look beter!!!
if they are of same quality, then why is gravel far more expensive?

Gravel is not very gud because of the dirt
file!!!!
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 10:17am On Mar 04, 2011
^^^ Will get back to you later with the qouations


@Kuntash,

Sir/Madam, what is your problem?
And why me? The two pages you are talking about
was I the only one that type there?? Carry your own waka jorray
Brabus, wey dey build shey na gravel him dey use?
@least for the foundation him use granite
because him know say na him gud pass.
Sometimes 2much of cheap labour & materials dey lead to catastrophe

You can build with anything for all I care
I can post you pictures of a bungalow going on in my site there
the owner refused to put any pillars on it
and now the whole building is just cracking up
When i get to my site today I will post for you
Some people will tell you bungalow don't need pillars
but its a lie. My advice is that you put them
even you use gravel. Put them. It is very important.
Another man in my area who finished his bungalow just last year
the bungalow has 26 pillars. 10 of it stopped at the foundation
while 16 goes up!
The roofing the man use are clay tile
it is very heavy. but even at that, 16 pillars for a 4 bedroom bungalow may
seem too much. But that is that
I don't know how you think. And don't care to know
Some ppl have all the money to spend on building since
they will be living in it
why some others just thinks
why the waste. go ahead.
even the septic tank for my soak-away in the compound
has 4 pillars and 2 cross beams.
Some ppl don't even bother to put pillars at all
that's their business. But in future, some do collapse

I am not hear to cost arguments or mislead ppl
I'm here to air my thoughts
if you say this is right and I think it isn't
can't I air my own opinion?
Plz leave it there. Lets forget it
You can keep looking for cheap labours around
so as not to discourage yoursef
but what is worth doing, is worth doing well, especially when you have the money

Different strokes for different folks
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:32am On Mar 04, 2011
I can post you pictures of all this old fashion houses
here in Ikorodu that must have lasted 50 to 70 yrs.

Apart from the fact that they are so outdated in designs
they also look finished! With cracks everywhere.

Hollow or Non hollow blocks
they are both gud
I did not say they are not.
What I'm saying is that it is more preferable you use
the hollowed ones.
This is another thing civilization has brough us
Please embrace it!!!
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:27am On Mar 04, 2011
kuntash:
@ spyder, pls beware of thread derailers,

no be everything or comment you go respond,

suffice it to say here that there are many people living in Lagos that lagos life don steal so tay dem no sabi wetin they happen outside, they feel as long as its done this way in Lagos, it must be so elsewhere in the country,

I never build b4, but from where I come from where you find the real red laterite (Benin city) thats is so tough , u rarely see people building with hollow blocks, and there are some ancient buildings with blind blocks spanning almost 100yrs still breathing, all u do is painting ,

I have heard this issue of granite and gravel stuff before that if granite is not even mixed well, it can fail, on the other hand, my uncle's house decking was made of washed pebbles and ofcourse with blind blocks, that house is over 30yrs now no crack or watsoever, , MATERIALS FOR BUILDINGS IN WARRI-PH-LAGOS MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM THOSE USED IN ENUGU-ABUJA-KANO etc, I totally agree with this

I would enjoin readers to lets not derail this thread buy arguing, if u dont agree, refer us to your own thread and start smthn, THE ESSENCE OF THIS THREAD IS TO GET SOMETHING SOLID ENOUGH FOR A CONSIDERABLE BUDGET!

so far I am encouraged and I believe many people are, , @ thread owner, was there any activity in site 2day?, let the update flow pls,

its well with u all!!
And who are you referring to?
Beware of thread killers you mean?
Nobody here is trying to kill any thread
If only mr. spyder is responding and contributing to this
thread, that would be killing the thread
because he himself will get bored and feel discourage
And for your information. As you know, we are contributing as well
I no no where you get ur own observations from.

And mess u for saying ", Lagos life don steal so tay dem no sabi wetin they happen outstide"
What is best is best. Don't bring insults here. I have being to places outside Lagos and Nigeria
Embrace civilization ma

Presently the best materials to use in building house are
steel iron. But because of the cost
we go for cheaper stuffs.
Just cut ur coat according to your cloth
And because we go for cheaper stuffs doesn't mean
we should say they are the best.
Just let the people know the truth.
Gravel and Granite and steel very are strong
but steel is stronger
then granite, then gravel.
You can keep saying or arguing ignorantly
any gravel well mixed can last for 50yrs sef bros
and you fit send me that picture of your 100yrs old house
and prove that it was built with the thing you have mentionedhuh
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 12:13am On Mar 04, 2011
the only thing i'm certain rats don't dig tru in a building is
tiles
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 12:11am On Mar 04, 2011
^^^^^

Man one thing I'm very sure about
build with gravel or granite
RATS will still dig up their hole in it
it may not be with the first 5 yrs of the building
but say 6 or 7 yrs later,
Rats will surely have their way
My advice is,
keep the house clean
kill them -- rats
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 11:44pm On Mar 03, 2011
@2dmax

Na the electrician nai kno o
get a profecional electrician
it is beta they do it while
doing the condict electrical works
that way PHCN will neva find out!!!
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 11:42pm On Mar 03, 2011
2dmax:
@ am alone, guy pls and pls, this thread is meant to be educative and informative. we appreciate your giant strides as a young man, but openly exchanging posts with some people in particular and not actually giving educative/informative opinions instead will all make us weary of reading this thread. You just unknowingly gave a point we can all learn from: you building will be charged by PHCN for only 2 bulbs! You can teach us all! Pls. @ spyder888, i wonder why you want to derail all your beautiful efforts made so far in carrying us along. Pls keep your focus intact, most of us, if not all is counting on it. Meanwhile,@ all, do get your best quotes forr electrical wires and cables from me. Dont make that order till you hear from first.
Guy y u won finish only me na??

Regarding wires
I use Nigeria wires only
my electrician gave me quations of 290k only wires
is that okay?
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 10:58pm On Mar 03, 2011
Total money spent so far for this project( 4 bedroom bungalow) is:

NET TOTAL: N4,976,700(including land totaling -- N2,060,000)


Total cost on this project now is  angry angry angry
N2,916,700

that's expensive!!!
your HEART fit CUT now!!!!

Once they cast and remove the wood on the gutter roof design next week,
I will show you all.
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 10:51pm On Mar 03, 2011
Updated info:

To build the gutter roofing(the roofing will just be like guther roof)
I have spent and additional 500,000 ooo

Wood -- 120,000
sand(today somebody brought me dredging sand for 22k. I have been buy it for 24k) @22k per tipper --- 44k(2 tippers)
cement @ 2000 per bag, 40 bags --- 80,000
rods( 12 and 10mm & transport --- 105,000
Omonile ----- 30k(no mind me o, I pay plumber money, electrician,plastering, iron bender, plumber and more, @ 5k each)
carpenter workmanship---- 42,000
iron beder ---- 28,000
electrician including workmanship for just the pipping of the wires---- 89,000 ( my electrical is a big complicated that is why! I will be using inverter, and also, only my one of the rooms light and the sitting room light will be working with the meter. Others will be working for freeeeeeeeeee)


totaling: 528,000(this is because I am doing this gutter roof thing.) excluding the omonile and the electrical
Gutter roof is always very expensive, ask any1
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 10:39pm On Mar 03, 2011
brabus:
@Spyder, N4.7m incldg land is not too much, considering the level of work done so far.

Another reason one should not go for solid block. Who knows when one might decide to make readjustment (I mean like expanding the kids room or making simple conversions).

I have seen estates with 10,000watt security fence (with precast concrete) being robbed, so solid block house is not an exception.
lmfao
GUY ABEG NO KILL ME WITH LAFTER NA
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 10:37pm On Mar 03, 2011
@ spyder
You don't need this
I didn't say i am 26

I am under 26
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 10:35pm On Mar 03, 2011
@ Topic

I have made some more improvements on my project
Because I am building a gutter roof on the bungalow

The iron bender is very slow and is really delaying the project
I will post you updated amount of the project sofar
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 10:24pm On Mar 03, 2011
spyder880:
After removing the land costs and other expenses, it is still on the high side, but I didnt need to complain, till you started singing the granite song which seemed like you were moaning about your costs. If you are comfy with what you got, them allow others to do their own.
Telling me you like your bungalow more than the duplex you saw in lekki is a straight faced lie! Those wey no get money to buy coat always say it causes heat rashes! (na joke I dey joke o)
U 2 dey mis-understand person
I no say i c duplex for lekki
I say for lekki
cost of foundation(rafting foundation) dey reach 4 to 5 million
plus filling of water go amount to 7 or 8million
say for duplex.
I am a VERY young man(under 26)
wether I build bungalow or duplex
na my problem!!!! U can say i no get the money
no problem!!!! Na person wey no get the money go vex for am
na u dey carry face up. GRANITE BETTER PAS GRAVEL leave am there
besides abi ur own house dey come. Make we dey see hw e go go na

wetin moi wey neva marry and no get children won to dey do alone
inside ma 5bedroom duplex?(father has his own house)
grin grin grin
Man for now, at my age and stage, I won rock bungalow jor!!!
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 9:53pm On Mar 03, 2011
hahahhaha

Mr. Spyder

4.7Milla
Including land oo
I bought the land for 1.5m
lawyer and agent fee 150k
omonile 200k
aproval and architect 210k

Abeg minus am from that 4.7million u quote
and besides
my last quote was 4.4m

hahahaha
Moreover I am not complaining
I'm?
I just want people to know the truth
Soup wey sweet, na money kill am
And for ur information
My budget is **million for this bungalow
and man your harsh words no fit discourage moi!!!

What I want you to understand is that,
quality is quality
10million for a bungalow is never too much
especially when you have the money!!!!
lets praye for more money men!

U i go lekki last week sunday
them begin show me 2 plot of water
wey dey inside big bush
and them they call am 16million per plot
guy, my heart cut. To fill one plot inside that 1 alone
and do rafting foundation
pass *million. And guy
na foundation u still dey o!!!
So forget. The money i dey spend go build me duplex
wella. But this is what I want
and e no cost me much
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 9:22pm On Mar 03, 2011
From Gravel same quality as Granite
To Non Hollowed Blocks
Fact that you are using it does not makes it the best
LOL!!!
Gudluck
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 9:19pm On Mar 03, 2011
@ brabus

^^^ LOL!!!
Nice post grin grin grin grin

Non hollowed blocks are extinct!!!
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 9:08pm On Mar 03, 2011
make we no argue
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 9:06pm On Mar 03, 2011
spyder880:
But, I can also take you to a million block industries here in Enugu that mould solid, non hallowed blocks!
And, what a news, so people set up companies to waste materials and lose money? Bros, dont let them hear you.
block na block
so long as enoff cement dey there
hollowed or no hollowed
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:48pm On Mar 03, 2011
I can take you to a thousand and one blocks industries here in lag
and can't find where they mold this non hollowed blocks you are talking about
I mean they were made & used by my ancestors

And BROS MIND YOU
THOSE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY NO DEY SAVE MONEY O
THEM READY SPEND AM DIE
IF NA LIE ASK ANYBODY IN THE HOUSE
THEM DEY ALWAYS BUY AND WASTE MATERIALS MAN
IF IT IS THE BEST
I BET YOU THEY WILL SURELY USE IT
AND BESIDE, THEY ARE NOT MORE EXPENSIVE
THEY ARE CHEAP!!!!! history,
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:43pm On Mar 03, 2011
spyder880:
The solid blocks are the old fashioned types. People started making hollow blocks for its light weight, but it has some limitations. Rats, cockroaches and bats can find a ready abode anytime a hollow block cracks in your house, and it always cracks, try mounting a wall hanger or hanging a nail for picture etc and see how it just opens up wide.
I just like using solid blocks, on the top I will use reduced sizes like 5" to finish up.
I dont do what construction companies do, and they may just be doing that to cut costs, actually, its cheaper to use hollow blocks.
What is stated above has nothing to do with hollowed blocks
It has to do with a block that is not strong.
Yes i quite agree with you that hollow blocks are a bit stronger
but the weight it it add to a building is even worst than the strength and besides
it is not the blocks that hold or carries the house. It is the pillars in the house!!!

Furthermore, no matter strength of the blocks or concrete or granite or gravel. Rats will still have their ways.
And except you don't paster your house
that bats(bats ke? For city wey no forest) can find their way in
beside, I've not heard or seen that b4 if not for u.

Man NON HOLLOWED BLOCKS ARE EXTINCT!!!!
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:17pm On Mar 03, 2011
@ spyder

u thing u kno but u don't know
come to Lagos and learn the truth.

Man the sand wey them bring from sea is called dredging sand
it is far far better than the fresh water sand
go and ask anybody
and it is this same sand our Government use in building bridges and gutters
and all those sky scrappers you see around

I no fit type abeg
No time to begin argue blindly with u man
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:13pm On Mar 03, 2011
I laff when ppl say GRANITE & GRAVEL are same.

Truth of the matter is
use what best you can afford.


But fact is GRANITE IS FAR FAR STRONGER THAN GRAVEL
Conkry na Conkry
Further more if it is true that gravel is as strong as granite
why are gravels not used in the construction of all this modern
roads and bridges, when they are even cheaperhuh

Truth bsay. Them 2 strong o
but Granite strong pass
especially the small ones, ( quarter inch)
Peace
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:04pm On Mar 03, 2011
This blocks that don't have holes are extinct

They are old fashion
Pillars carries the building
You will NEVER EVER come accross any construction company
build with this none hollowed blocks
Hollowed blocks add less weight to the building
why the non hollowed blocks
is not advise-able
because of it weight.
it is just not the best(I stand to be corrected by spyder)
PropertiesRe: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 7:56pm On Mar 03, 2011
@ spyder

Sharp sand pass sharp sand

what you are using is fresh water sharp sand

the later is Sea water sharp sand

Shark and cat-fish no be the same na

In lagos here we have sands like the one you are using
but for a solid structure
NOT ADVICE-ABLE!!!!

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