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Decimus:
He's right
Radiography is divided into
Diagnostic Radiography
Therapeutic Radiography

We are not talking about whether Radiography is divided into diagnostic or therapeutic Radiography. We are asking, do Radiographers (Therapeutic R) treat cancers?

Treatment of cancer is not a one man show. It involves many disciplines. It may include Surgeons, Clinical oncologists (called radiation oncologists in the US), pathologists, Medical oncologists,etc.

That the therapeutic radiographer operates the machine that deliver the radiotherapy to patients with cancer doesn't mean he treats cancer.

Amarisco:
Calm down love.

Nurses can become specialist nurses, ward matrons and even enter senior hospital administration.

It’s not the same for radiographers. Their skills are more practical and in the field, than in clinical direction and administration

They can even work out of the hospital wall like in Airports for scanning conceived drugs and lugages, oil companies and refinaries, Oceanography even veterinary hospitals(animals) also in military or research institute that deals with nuclear radiation weaponry all these are called (industrial Radiography).....

Addition from Oninure.

Amarisco:
Calm down love.

Nurses can become specialist nurses, ward matrons and even enter senior hospital administration.

It’s not the same for radiographers. Their skills are more practical and in the field, than in clinical direction and administration

Same with Radiography love. They can go on to specialise in ultrasonography, magnetic resonance imaging, radiograph interpretation, computed tomography, mammography, radiotherapy, nuclear medicine.

As for being in senior hospital administration, I agree nurses tend to have the upper hand here, but this advantage occurs mostly in government owned hospitals.

Oninure:
Lol...I am a 300l Radiography student...I think I am in the best position to give u analysis.
First a nurse wud and will always work under the supervision of a doctor i.e extremely subservant to doctors while Radiographers work with mutual respect and in some cases gives directive to doctors who basically know little or nothing about medical imaging
Secondly nurse cannot build or supervise a personal hospital or clinical center without being monitored by doctor while Radiographers can have his/her personal diagnostic as well as therapeutic (treatment) center without directives from doctor
Thirdly
The esteem of Radiographers are uncompairable that they are referred to as Oracle of Modern Medicine and eagle eye of modern MEDICINE while nurses are merely reference as clinical Messengers.
Fourtly evolution of Radiography is not even at it peak yet birthed 1898 and it will keep evolving with technology giving inclusion to accommodate other medical practice as technology evolve.
Fiftly nurse can only treat menial illnesses like maleria and typhoid and they cant diagnose....while radiographers is involved in tratement of malignant illnesses like cancer, infertility etc and they can diagnose (i.e they do diagnostic and therapeutic)
Sixtly, very few radiographers in Nigeria less than 10000 which kept the profession naturally immune to job competition with approximately automatic employment opportunity before or after graduation.
Let me not forget to add that with Radiography you can diversify into industrial Radiography that works in airports, oil companies and refinaries, Oceanography,veterinary hospitals etc...not the case with nursing
The list can go on and on.....u can contact me personally if u feel need for more clarification 08081407652
HABRAD

You are in 300l. Lol. Graduate first, then you will know that what you just wrote here is nonsense! .

He said radiographers are involved in treatment of malignant diseases. Lol.

Firefunmi2014:
In addition, a young Radiography graduate is earning between 200k-250k now. A Nurse in Nigeria can not get that.

A radiography graduate earning between 200k-250k? A fresh graduate? Na lie abeg. stop the unnecessary hype!

Cousin9999:
Wow. Re-read my post WHERE I SPECIFICALLY SAID "RADIOGRAPHY TECH" AND "RADIOLOGY TECH." TECH. EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE YOU RUSH TO COMMENT. THANKS.

Which one is radiology tech again? Na wa for una!

Analyst7:
Guy I'm a Biomedical engineer and I can be a radiologist if I want

Lol. Oya go and be the Radiologist na . Na by mouth? Do you know how many years it will take you to become a Radiologist?

Johnchrix:
How can u become a radiographer with a Bsc Biochemistry certificate.

You will drop your bsc certificate in biochemistry and go back to the university to study Radiography.

Oyindamolah:
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Let’s look at what it takes to be a nurse vs. a radiologist now that we’ve answered the main question.

So let’s talk about Radiology

As a radiologist, you will assist other doctors in diagnosing and treating patients, which can be a rewarding career.

Those who work in the field of radiology, unlike many other professions, never have the same day twice. A typical day may contain a variety of patient problems, unusual settings, and the application of cutting-edge technology.

As a radiologist, you’ll use ultrasound, x-rays, CT scans, MRIs, and other imaging equipment to diagnose and treat patients.

The majority of radiologic and MRI technologists are full-time employees. Some technologists work evenings, weekends, or overnight shifts since imaging is occasionally required in emergencies.

Nursing is a demanding professional path, but if you are compassionate and want to help the weak and sick, this is the path for you.

You must also be willing to work long hours in high-stress settings and put your patients’ needs ahead of your own.

Advanced-degreed nurses are in high demand all around the world, and they can find work in both the private and public sectors quickly.

To begin your career as a nurse, you must complete one of three educational paths: a bachelor’s degree in nursing, an associate’s degree in nursing, or a diploma from a recognized nursing program.

A license is required for registered nurses.

Many people mistakenly believe that nursing means caring for patients.

It’s much more than that, though.

Nurses are increasingly taking on leadership roles in healthcare settings, and they are capable of accomplishing a variety of tasks.

Furthermore, advanced education allows you to specialize in a certain field.

Specialty fields such as Nurse Anesthetists, Nurse Midwives, and Nurse Practitioners

What Do Nurses Do Every Day?
Registered nurses (RNs) provide and coordinate patient care, educate patients and the public about various health conditions, and provide advice and emotional support to patients and their families.

Registered nurses typically do the following:

Assess patients’ conditions
Record patients’ medical histories and symptoms
Observe patients and record the observations
Administer patients’ medicines and treatments
Set up plans for patients’ care or contribute information to existing plans
Consult and collaborate with doctors and other healthcare professionals
Operate and monitor medical equipment
Help perform diagnostic tests and analyze the results
Teach patients and their families how to manage illnesses or injuries
Explain what to do at home after treatment

What Do Radiologists Do Every Day?
Radiology or radiologic technologists, commonly known as radiographers, are medical professionals that perform x-rays and other diagnostic imaging procedures on patients. MRI techs create diagnostic images using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scanners.

Radiologic and MRI technologists typically do the following:

Adjust and maintain imaging equipment
Follow precise orders from physicians on what areas of the body to image
Prepare patients for procedures, including taking a medical history and shielding exposed areas that do not need to be imaged
Position the patient and the equipment to get the correct image
Operate the computerized equipment to take the images
Work with physicians to evaluate the images and to determine whether additional images need to be taken
Keep detailed patient records.

How To Become A Nurse Practitioner?
Becoming a Nurse Practioner will take significant time and effort.

The education and training of a Nurse Practitioner normally take six to eight years.

Typically require a master’s degree in the field of your choice (two to three years.) Then required to take and pass the APRN certification exam (less than one year.)

How To Become A Radiologist?
Students interested in radiologic or MRI technologies should pursue math and science classes such as anatomy, biology, chemistry, and physics in high school.

Individuals must undergo a four-year radiology residency after graduating from medical school.

On-call employment has been increasingly common in the last two years, which some people find both physically and mentally taxing. A one- or two-year fellowship program, usually in a specific area of radiology, must be completed.

To practice as a radiologist, candidates must pass the United States Medical Licensing Exam or the Comprehensive Osteopathic Medical Licensing Exam.

Many radiologists also need to pass state boards and be certified by the American Osteopathic Board of Radiology or the American Board of Radiology.

Nurses Practitioners earn more than Radiologist, with the median wage of a Nurse Practitioner at $117,670 compared to $63,710 per annum 

However, wages will vary on the number of years of experience, geographical location, etc.

Job Role Median Wage / Per Annum
Nurse Practitioners, Nurse Anesthetists, Midwives $117,670
Registered Nurse $75,330
According to US Labor Bureau and Statistics, the median annual wage for nurse anesthetists, nurse midwives, and nurse practitioners was $117,670 per year in 2020.

The median wage is the wage at which half the workers in an occupation earned more than that amount and half earned less.

The lowest 10 percent earned less than $82,460, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $184,180.

Median annual wages for nurse anesthetists, nurse midwives, and nurse practitioners in May 2019 were as follows:

Nurse anaesthetists $183,580
Nurse practitioners $111,680
Nurse-midwives $111,130
In May 2020, the median annual wages for nurse anesthetists, nurse midwives, and nurse practitioners in the top industries in which they worked were as follows:

Hospitals; state, local, and private $124,660
Outpatient care centres $122,840
Offices of physicians $114,570
Offices of other health practitioners $111,610
Educational services; state, local, and private $111,400
Source; Nurse Anesthetists, Nurse Midwives, and Nurse Practitioners: Occupational Outlook Handbook: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (bls.gov)



With demand predicted to grow by 9% every year, you should have no trouble finding work in Radiology. However, with anticipated growth of 45 percent from 2020 to 2030, far faster than the average for all occupations, obtaining a Practitioner position will not be a problem.

Final Thoughts
Nursing is regarded to be better than Radiology because it pays better, is more in demand, and has more career choices. Both nurses and radiologists must complete arduous academic qualifications. Nurses and radiologists both work shifts and spend a lot of time on their feet. Both professions are customer-facing.

It is important to choose what to study.

Speak with trustworthy friends and family members, and think about obtaining professional help.

Before choosing a career path to study, consider your talents and limits, as well as your likes and dislikes.

You just copied and paste something without even understanding one bit of what you posted.

Radiology and Radiography are not the same. A Radiologist is a medical doctor who has undergone training to specialise in the field of radiology (just like a cardiologist, Neurosurgeon, Opthalmologist etc). For you to be a Radiologist, you must first be a medical doctor.

A radiographer is someone who has gone to the university to study Radiography and has graduated.

mustykay:
Radiography for me any day any time. Salary compete with Medical doctors now if not more

Not true guy!

Amarisco:
Nursing is needed all over the world and easier to work on your own terms. However the workload is higher and there is higher risk of burnout and stress

Radiography has a better starting salary but is quite a niche/specialist area, so you’re a bit more limited in terms of career prospects. It carries more prestige than nursing though because of the further learning needed

Lol. Which one is "so you are a but more limited in terms of career prospects".

You want to study one course and have multiple careers from the course before?

Analyst7:
I prefer radiology
...anything tech rn is next level
And few people are in radiology compared to nursing

I hope you know Radiography is not the same as Radiology?

Lordbinsmar:
I'm not a Putin's puppet neither do I lick America's ass like you do.

America protects no body except from their own interest. Sweden and Finland should not be a fool.

Why would American be supporting small Ukraine to fight their own bitter and big enemy, Mother Russia.

Did America expect Ukraine to defeat Russia?

Why waste innocent Ukrainians?

Is that not hypocrisy.

If Sweden and Finland finally joins NATO, let Russia attack them. Then you will know whether America protects nobody or not.

Shascky33:
When russia won the battle of severodonesk, an OP posted it but it didnt make the front page. Finland and sweeden's ascension is indifferent ryt nw cus russia's new radica eurasianl foreign policy is focused on Asia, caspian nations, Africa and brics+ nations. Except u dont follow Tass news russia, cgtn china an Dw germany everyda, i will expect u 2 take this thread seriouly.

You are not making any sense. The major reason Russia invaded ukraine was to halt the Eastward expansion of NATO. But alas, 2 more countries that are close to Russia are about to join Nato. What Russia was trying to prevent is happening, not with just 1 country, but 2. Putin prevented 1 from joining Nato (with heavy loss to the Russians and the war still ongoing) while NATO is about to add 2 countries to their rank without a single shot fired!

How can you term Sweden and Finland joining Nato indifferent? This was Russia few weeks ago before they accepted that there was nothing they could do.

Lordbinsmar:
You are stupid. Turkey is a terrorist country. I pity the gullible Finnish and Swedish that want to sacrifice their citizens to achieve the American ambition.

If Sweden and Finland join Nato, let Russia attack them for joining Nato.

shaggy007:
Too early to rejoice.

Lol. I guess you will be the one to stop Sweden and Finland from becoming NATO members

topcatking:
Let's see what Turkiye has to say.

What do you want them to say? Turkey can't stand in the way of Sweden and Finland becoming NATO members. Turkey was just doing initial gra gra

It is actually foolish to generalize that all ladies below 27 are not mature. It goes both ways. There are some ladies above 27 that are mature, humble, caring that you will be tempted to marry them. Let them spend 2 or 3 years in your house after marriage, then you will know you have married rubbish.

May God help those of us genuinely looking for a life partner!

Simeonjoe1:
I totally agreed to number 2

But number 1?
Defeat here is relative. When you mean defeat, I asked at what battle theater?
Is it at US home soil? US clearly wins.

A neutral open pacific naval conflict? US wins

At Chinese homeland with the US invading and trying to occupy and hold it? China wins.

In a real time scenario US likely would be the aggressor and China on the defensive. If it's a full blown confrontation they'll likely be seeking to destroy all Chinese armed forces which will include an invasion into Chinese homeland attacking their army. The though of this brings shivers, the millions of lives that would be lost on both sides. In the long run I can't envision a US winning the technical war. Political victory maybe. Forget US can't subject and beat China on their home soil.

Defeat is not relative. Defeat is defeat. In a war between China and the US, the US will defeat China (by defeat, I mean the relative loss of men, women and children, military equipment, loss of Homeland infrastructure etc. Simply put, which country will suffer more devastating loss? CHINA!).

I can't forsee your first scenario in the nearest future. No country for now can take a war to US homeland. But even if it occurs, we both agree US wins.

Your second scenario, US wins. I agree too.

However, for your third scenario, I don't think the US would want to invade and occupy China. Considering that China is far from the US, it is almost impossible to invade and OCCUPY China. Emphasis on OCCUPY.

Whichever case, in a full blown out war where each country would want to destroy each other, China will be obliterated from the surface of the earth. That doesn't mean the US will come out unscratched.

Hanibbal:
So you want China to start a war? China does not even need that. It has been demonstarting that it will defend itself and interest. It has intecepted U.S poseidon spy planes over south china sea in the past and it is still doing that.

Two weeks ago Australia and Canada still protested that Chinese figher planes were harrasing their own fighter planes enforcing UN sanctions over North Korea.

Even U.S has complained in time past that China was targeting it figher planes with lasers. China does not need to start a war even U.S won't dare to start a war with China, they can harras each other, confront each other but they won't allow it to degenerate into a conflict cause it will be bad for both countries.

U.S is even avoiding a war with Iran not to talk of China.

Oga, go sleep. Lol. You don't know what you are saying.

Kobojunkie:
Men don't submit because?

Women are to submit because?

In marriage, the woman is to submit to the man. stop acting woke!

Hanibbal:
Both countries have what it takes to destroy each other so there would be no winner in such a war. Even in a conventional war where no nukes are deployed you can't predict such outcome I have learnt not to predict who wins or loses in a war. U.S is well armed and China is too.

We all have a right to our opinions. But if with all the provocations the US is meting out on China (as it regards Taiwan and the South China Sea) and China still can't do anything militarily, other than to rant, then China is afraid to dare you he US in a war.

Simeonjoe1:
A fight btw China and US? Well the US might win but at what cost. They will be severely bloodied! If it's nuclear weapons they can vaporize the US too. To use a simple analogy.
It's just like you fighting another man, you may end up killing him but he'll as well bloodied you and leave you paralyzed for life! Infact you might not even survive till the next decades due to injury received. Then at was cost was your victory?
You said Nigeria, Nigeria can just give them a little scarring or parhaps bloodied nose.
Russia might send you comatose with severe brain damage that will later kill you.
Both sides are taking cautions and are not predictable, Biden just released a statement lately saying US doesn't identify with Taiwan independence in fact US have to scrap some weapon sales to Taiwan to avoid stroking tensions. So it's both ways, if it was 20yrs ago US would have damn the consequences in fact with this recent large incursion of Chinese aircraft violating Taiwanese airspace and different Chinese naval drills stimulating attack on Taiwan the US would have put up a great show of force. Many years back when when China threatened Taiwan US sent a whole 2 carrier battle group to Taiwanese port as a show of deterrence but currently can they do that?

Yes Chinese is not up to the US in times of military might and they still have some way to go. But underestimating them will be at your own peril even the US does not.

At least, we are on the same page as it regards the summary of the whole matter;

1. The US will defeat China in a war and if it comes at a great cost to the US, it means China will no longer exists on the world map.

2. China military is not at par with the US military.

I think that quite settles everything.

Simeonjoe1:
I don't know if you're being ignorant boss or you decide to stick to a pro western article without forethought.
When I mentioned barrage of missiles I assumed both side striking each other. US has the ability to strike China hard and China also possess this ability to hit US hard in the pacific and even the US mainland. While China possess a more intermediate range cruise missile which the US lags behind due to its treaty with Russia, I believe Trump has overrule this. Also with China claim of having hypersonic weapons being deployed, if we are to go by that it means China has more survivable missile compare to the US tomahawk missile with subsonic speed though more advanced in times of guidance system but at same time it's highly vulnerable to missile defense. If we are to go by the claim, the Syria government even intercepted some of them.

Concerning the US neutralizing Chinese target you must definitely be joking. Like the whole of China with missile systems scattered about some in underground bunkers, some in submarines, some even mobile changing location constantly. Guy China is not Iraq or Syria, it's not even Iran, no preemptive strike from US can neutralize Chinese ability to strike back. Even against North Korea do you think that a preemptive strike can wipe out their artillery system. Baba you're just capping. For any strike to be effective US will have to fly sorties deep into China meaning they'll have to gain air superiority do you think that will be possible. Even in Iraq after gaining air superiority hunting of Iraqi squad mobile missile was a daunting task talk more of China. Guy for real you must be joking to think you US can just silent China reply, something they can't even do in ordinary Vietnam, till the end of the war Vietnam airforce is still very much active and even engaging US target.

Guy I've said this China can detect and track US aircraft carriers, it's not a rocket science. China is well advanced for that even india can do that. They have the asset to do so. They have their own aircraft carriers too with ISR planes they have submarine, has maritime surveillance plane with combat radius of thousands miles. Even the US knows this and that's why they will be careful in rushing aircraft carriers into any conflict with China.

You are actually the ignorant one though. China will hit US bla bla bla. Even if Nigeria enters a war with the US, Nigeria can cause some casaulties in the US side, but Nigeria will suffer a far greater destruction.

There is no country that doesn't have military capabilities. Taiwan has military capabilities, but that doesn't mean Taiwan is a match for China. Mexico have military capabilities, but that doesn't mean they are a match for the US. Finland has military capabilities, but that doesn't mean they are a match for Russia. China has military capabilities, but that doesn't mean they are a match for the US. Is there any country that will not suffer casaulty from a war? In a war between the US and China, will the US suffer casaulties? Yes of course! Even a dummy knows that. But China will be completely destroyed (sorry if this fact annoys you).

China is growing militarily, yes. But that doesn't mean the US military resting on it's oars. The only edge China have over the Americans for now is in hypersonic missiles (There are even doubts in some quarters about Chinese claim of owning hypersonic missiles). Even at that, the Americans are pouring in billions into hypersonic missile technology and trust me, they are getting there. Apart from hypersonic missiles, the US beats China in EVERY other aspects of military assets and capabilities; fighter jets, Submarines, Nuclear weapons, bombers, space assets for military purpose, war experience, name it.


The funny thing about some of you is that you guys sometimes give China the military hype and capabilities they don't even give themselves. If they really could match the US militarily, Taiwan would have been under Chinese rule by now. Even China fears the consequences of entering a war with the US. But una for Nairaland believe China is a match for the US.

Fews days before and after the Trump vs Biden election, there were fears in China that Trump may react irrationally and attack China. General Miley (the Chairman of the US joint Chief of staffs) had to call a top Chinese military leader twice or 3 times that the US will not attack China and even if there were plans to attack, China will be informed prior before the attack. That was how top Chinese officials became calm. There was a time the US army trained with the Chinese flag inscribed on their uniforms. The Chinese have to quickly contact top US military officials who assured them that the US was not planning an attack.

The US continues to harass China as it relates to Taiwan and the south China Sea (where China claims sovereignty but the US regularly send war ships and submarines into the SCS). If China feels they now have the military strength to withstand the US, they should attack Taiwan and bring it under it's control, then attack any US warship violating it's "sovereignty" in the SCS. Until that happens, we may never know what the military of both countries are capable of.

Simeonjoe1:
Yes they would likely be exchanging barrage of missile but know that the US major bases in Okinawa, South Korea and Guam are fixed target and well within range of Chinese attack. Also most of this Chinese cruise missile are mobile system hence difficult to destroy them since they are always on the move. With Chinese claim of having hypersonic missile it becomes hard for us anti missile defense system to intercept them more so hard if the anti missile system are to engage multiple targets at once in a highly electronic jamming environment(which China also possess).

Also concerning the aircraft carriers. For it to be effective an aircraft carrier have to be within the range of it aircraft combat radius. Take for example the US want to use a carrier fleet to strike mainland China. The aircraft has to be within striking distance of the jet and their air refueling platform and this could be anywhere from tens to hundreds of miles but definitely not in excess of thousands of miles because they are practically useless. With this you've definitely reduce the search radius because instead of searching the vast distant ocean you'll reduce your search to thousands of miles radius where the enemy can effectively strike your bases from. Yes China possess the ISR capabilities to carry out this search. Dozens of ISR plane can be at the air at the same time same with drones, maritime ships and even submarine all having an integrated ISR management. Also other things make it easier like the tracking of enemies communications, detecting of enemy radar signatures (all these are found in an ISR plane) also sighting of enemy planes on recon further reduces the search radius as you know their landing platform is around that area.
During ww2 Japan and US engaged in a rat and mouse game for searching enemies aircraft carriers and battleship it was difficult but not impossible despite the deficit Radar system and mediocre technology at that time. Common guy you've got to be kidding me, China is only behind the US and Russia in military technology and when it comes to electronics and surveillance equipment they are well advanced so telling me China does not have the ability to detect or track an aircraft in the vast ocean is joke its even more absurd to say they can't detect an aircraft carriers within striking radius of their territory.

Guam, Okinawa, and other US military bases are fixed target. Is China as a country not a fixed target? Or China floats in space? You talked about barrage of missiles, coming from a single place (the Chinese Homeland). Compare that to missiles coming from Guam, Okinawa, South Korea and any other military bases in the region, including assets on the sea. All from different countries and you think the one sending it's missiles from a particular place of the country stands a better chance. US submarines plays in the south China Sea, close to China. China had to beg the US to tell them what really happened when one of US submarines had an accident in the south China Sea. They were not even aware of the submarine's activities.

You talked about China's cruise missiles being mobile. And all the US weapon systems are all land based and fixed right?

Talking about Aircraft combat radius, I have explained this before. The US Aircraft carriers can operate at 200 nautical miles from shore and still be difficult to detect (even 400 Nm) and aircraft combat radius will not be a problem as all US fighter jets that operate on carriers have a combat radius that exceeds 400nm. With destruction of enemy defense and offensive weapons by submarines, cruise missiles from other war ships in the carrier strike group, the aircraft carrier can get closer to shore, thereby reducing the sortie time of fighter jets operating from carrier. Should I remind you that the US have 11 of such aircraft carriers each forming a carrier strike group (consisting of submarines, guided missile cruisers, destroyers, frigates, the carrier itself each having about 70 fighter jets on board, ISR aircrafts like the E-2C Hawkeye). Imagine 11 different carrier strike group operating at different points in the SCS. Mind you, in the event of war, US submarines will play a major role in destructing targets in China. The war will be ended by submarines before it starts. US submarine power is unmatched.

As for ISR. I stand on my earlier comment that China do not have the military capabilities to track a US Aircraft carrier in REAL TIME. They can know an a carrier has been in a certain location days after the carrier has left that particular place. But they can't do real time tracking of a US aircraft carrier.


Anyways, this argument can go on and on. You are free to believe on Chinese military capabilities while I believe on the US superior military capabilities. Only war between these countries can prove either of us right. We hope that day doesn't come!

Bye!

leesamyoung:
why won't I believe them whatever they claim to have they have it, be hypersonic missile or aircraft carrier or stealth jet, tell me where they have lie about their capabilities

We will know about all these capabilities in war time!

Trust the Chinese at your peril!

leesamyoung:
China have ability to detect US carrier in real time through AI satellite so they can destroy it. era of carrier have gone it is symbolic for peacetime and to oppress country with little military capacity. US can sink china carrier likewise china have capacity to sink their too. so for China it is tools to oppress Taiwan and to show it military advance and might, link below to show you china detect US carrier training in US water not South China just imagine the carrier in South China water during war they will sink it. so don't let me hear you say china don't have capacity to detect US carrier again get updated. I come in peace

https://eurasiantimes.com/tracking-america-china-claims-its-ai-powered-satellite-monitored/?amp

https://moneycentral.com.ng/markets/article/chinese-smart-satellite-live-streamed-us-nimitz-class-aircraft-carrier-off-new-york/

https://www.ibtimes.com.au/chinas-new-ai-powered-satellite-can-send-real-time-targeting-info-us-carrier-report-1815680

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/05/chinas-ai-satellites-can-track-us-ships-in-real-time-around-the-world-report/

No need for the 4 links. They are all saying the same thing; "The Chinese claimed". No evidence what so ever to what they claimed they did.

Believe them at your own peril.

Simeonjoe1:
I get your point but an aircraft carrier is not invincible. The use of drones, maritime patrol aircraft, stealth aircraft with advanced ISR systems can detect a carrier. They are large and with its numerous accompanied assets they can be detected if you search at the right place. Some ISR platform can scan for hundred of miles. China also possess missile with ranges of hundreds of missile far more than some aircraft range. With improvements in their targeting technology(which they are pretty advanced on) and hypersonic ability it becomes harder to counter this missile attack even more worst if you have to defend against barrage of attack.

The China of 25 years ago where the US can easily sail their aircraft carriers along the Taiwan Straits is not the same currently. US will like to keep their precious asset at a distance.

Well, I didn't say an aircraft carrier is invisible though. Yes, an aircraft carrier is large, but if you compare where you are supposed to find a carrier to the size where it can be at any point (the south China Sea, or the more expansive western Pacific), then you will know a carrier is not easy to detect on sea. Some ISR can scan for hundred of miles? The South China Sea is over a million square miles. I just told you the best way to scan such an expanse in real time, for a target that is not stationary and China currently have no such ability. China have missiles, have these, have that. The US carrier strike group has what? Bullets? Lol. Barrage of attack? The US has more land and sea assets close to China. China will be the country try to dodge from a barrage of attacks from different locations.

China of 25 years ago? Please! A US aircraft carrier sailed through the Taiwan strait in 2007.

AbdulHakeem44:
If no enemies are engaging them, what's it usefulness amassing them in multitude? Just keep sailing and wasting tax payers fund. Lol, as if am just hearing aircraft carrier before, save your lecture for someone else.

Lol. Baba is crying that the US is wasting tax payers money . Are you a tax payer in the US ? Or are the Americans complaining? Stop crying more than the bereaved! It is these moeny they are "wasting" that is why they are the strongest country in the world. I know you and your kind want them to stop improving so that they will be weak and hence vulnerable.

China and Russia that are developing their own weapons are not wasting tax payers money? Funny people!

Simeonjoe1:
But this is quite true though. With the advancement in targeting systems and hypersonic technology an aircraft carrier with it battle group becomes increasingly vulnerable. Well you can't say because of road accidents you won't drive, despite the effectiveness of ATGM people are still spending billions building armored vehicles.

That is a point but the Americans keep building aircraft carriers. You know why? The advantages of an aircraft carrier far exceeds the disadvantages/risk. Let me show you some points.

1. Aircraft carriers are one of the most potent expression of America military might. They are the most visible power the US uses to discourage aggression (the 3rd Taiwan strait crisis comes to mind)

2. Aircraft carriers, unlike land bases are hard to detect and attack. For example, in the event of war between China and the US, the US military base in Guam can be hit by China, but not so for an aircraft carrier. They act as mobile military bases on sea. Since all US Aircraft carriers are nuclear powered, in the event of war, they can move at a maximum speed on sea for weeks without the need to refuel.

3. The first step in attacking a US aircraft carrier is to find it. But that will not be easy because in war, aircraft carriers are expected to operate far from shore during the early stages of a conflict (about 200nm from shore) because the aircraft and cruise missiles from other warships in carrier strike group and submarines will be used to destroy enemy sensors, weapons etc. It is only when these threats have been elimated that Aircraft Carriers can come closer to shore, increasing the range of attack of the fighter jets. This is the reason aircraft carriers don't sail alone.

4. Don't think detecting an aircraft carrier is easy. For example, the south China Sea measures over one million square miles (and the south China Sea makes up a small part of the entire western Pacific. check the size of the Pacific ocean, then you will have an idea of the size we are talking about). The only practical way to conduct surveillance over that kind of expanse is with satellites but China presently do not have a military recoinnssance satellite capable of finding a carrier. If China uses commercial satellites, it will be useless since these satellites take days to weeks to deliver images which will be useless for an assets on sea that is constantly moving. Without locating the target you want to strike, your offensive weapons (including hypersonic missiles) is useless. Except you just want to be firing hypersonic missiles into the open sea aimlessly.

5. US Aircraft carriers have layers of defense. The outermost defense is provided by the E-2C
Hawkeye airborne surveillance radar and Aegis radars on surface combatants. As attackers penetrate further, they come within
range of various other sensors and defenses including those on the carrier


6. US aircraft carriers are built to take heavy hit without serious damage

Baba, just know that you are not wiser than the Americans that have 11 aircraft carriers and continue to build more. Attacking a US Aircraft carrier is no child's play.

AbdulHakeem44:
This is Chinese first built carrier, so it is well justified. it's a total waste to have them much. When have you heard of the USA sitting ducks engaging? Just wasting tax payers money running them.

If I have heard the US sitting ducks engaging? The question should have been; "Have you heard of enemy assets engaging the so called US sitting ducks"? These are "sitting ducks" that sail on waters far from the US causing countries like China to wail and shout (if for example the US sitting duck sail through the Taiwan strait). China ought to engage the US sitting ducks.

Moreover, your question shows your lack of knowledge on aircraft carriers. The primary purpose of an aircraft carrier is not to engage! They serve as forward bases. They act as mobile military bases on sea. For example, in the event of war between China and the US, considering that the US is far from China, they will be needed to provide a platform from which fighter jets can take off to attack China from the sea and unlike land military bases that China can easily attack, aircraft carriers can be difficult to detect in open sea. They are mobile and since US aircraft carriers are all nuclear powered, they have greater speed and can manoeuvre at sea for weeks without the need for refueling.

ghettokid1:
once again dominated by Premier League clubs

Na this kind thing Dem dey dominate. When it comes to playing, laliga teams always beating them black and blue in finals of European football club competitions.