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odinson1:
Women are More emotional
Men are more Logical

Are the 2 statements above true based on individual basis,or by Our different biology?

These are the same falsehoods we have been hearing since time immemorial and it is quite old and out of touch.

Close example Vladimir Putin, the so called logical gender has used his emotions to enter into a stupid war he cannot win.

For some strange reasons, I believe in UFOs and aliens.

Maynman:
Yes exactly. I mean the man doesn’t want the child in the first place, they are not married.

Well said the man should have no input or right to the child I agree.

Maynman:
Then the woman should also have a major say about the finances of the baby.

Of course and the child starts bearing her surname too.

averageguy:
My brother, it's the way nature is set up oh. The man has a say at the point of conception and beyond that, the baby is growing inside the woman and not the man.

In general, I think many people will agree bodily autonomy makes is wrong for us to force adults (male or female) to go through surgeries of any kind since they are the ones bearing the risk. I just don't think abortion is any different.

Exactly.

Maynman:
But when a lady doesn’t want a baby, she’s free to do abortion, why can’t the man also have a say?

When the man is the one carrying the pregnancy then he will have a major say.

averageguy:
This is why many developed countries have a child support system in place to ensure that people cannot choose to leave their financial responsibilities. No one can force him to be there physically/emotionally for the child, but if the child is his, it is still his financial obligation to support.

When people copulate, everyone should know there is a risk of pregnancy since even condoms aren't 100% effective and for guys, we are unable to determine what happens afterwards. I think it is morally reprehensible to force or emotionally blackmail someone into abortion where there is a risk of permanent damage or death. No one thinks the unmarried lady's life will ever remain the same after the pregnancy and childbirth either. She is the one with more on the line.

For both genders, part of being an adult is responsibility and fulfilling your obligations.

You are right.

Nigeria has a long way to go and one of the reasons why I would not advice anyone to do abortion in Nigeria is because it is not legal it is very unsafe and subject to quacks that damage women's lives.

Healthcare is not a priority in Nigeria really terrible.

Realmi:
U are just 21, u dont have a job, but u can sleep with a girl....

Now u are scared

Really

Like u tot the product of sex is canada visa


Wen u dey do oxlade style and probably filming it to, u were even having sex twice in a week for three months

Time wey u for use dey find money

U have plenty problems ooo, u are not just awear

Dominion791:
I've been seeing this girl for the last few months, since early January of this year. Not an official relationship and we haven't really talked about what we are. Not sure exactly how to describe her so I'm just going to use her as a friend in benefit as the description.

There was some emotion in our relationship but it was mostly sexual. I've always been really, really good about using condoms and this is the first time I've ever been in this pregnancy situation.

I'm pretty unsure if I am the father. We had sex about twice a week for the last three months. So I have no clue who she saw or was with nor do I really care to be honest. There is more than a little doubt in my mind if I am the father.

For what its worth she insists I am the father but I don't know. She learned she was pregnant on March 22nd. She Told me on 24th. I immediately encouraged her to get an abortion I've offered to cover it all cost . She said she would think about. Its been almost 2 weeks and no abortion.

I spoke to her this morning and its becoming kind of clear that an abortion probably isn't happening. She is starting to get kind of tired of me pushing the abortion. I don't know what else to do. I'm starting to really get scared I am only 21 and I don't even have a job. I can't afford to raise a child right now and I certainly don't want a family right now. I'm thinking of telling her to reconsider the abortion or take care of the baby alone.

What do I do now?

But you can afford to have sex without protections.

I will not judge you abortion is illegal in Nigeria so your situation is dicey.

Next time use protection or abstain from sex at 21 your problem should not be sex when you have no job to cater for your needs and are probably a dependent.

People are having sex at age 21 and without marriage God I am truly a conservative when it comes to my personal lifestyle and liberal in world view.

Una get mind oo you don't have responsibilities but you can be having sex at 21 I will not judge you sha

Carry your cross.

You are welcome

Brexxit:
Okay thanks for the correction sis.

I have taken note of that.

Brexxit:
Nairalanders have an iQ below 50.

Too many ignoramus on this forum.
Same sex marriage was legalized by Justice Ginsburg of the US supreme courts and not Obama although he supports it.

They are not saying it's good but their point is the state should not imprison anyone because of their sexuality, how they choose to live their lives should be between them and their God.

Obama is a former professor of constitutional law and knows much about human rights.

Actually it was Justice Anthony Kennedy a conservative that was the deciding vote which legalised same sex marriage not justice Ginsburg.
Justice Kennedy sided with the liberals to make Obergefell the law of the land legalising same sex unions

simpleseyi:
For homosexualism, abortion and the likes. I am a Muslim, we will never give you that Freedom to start sleeping with fellow men, aborting babies at will and sleeping with animals. We will never ever give you that Freedom. That's why I stand with Putin, now and always.

Thankfully the world does not revolve around you and your opinion is inconsequential.

duality:
Please watch this video and be honest with yourself.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j58Bx0Ebppw

God1000 don't watch the video that video is propaganda piece from Russian state TV in America.

1stGenAmerican:
They were positive that SCOTUS would rule in favor of their efforts to overturn the ACA also and we know what happened with that.

True and I was surprised by that decision Coney Barrett and Kavanaugh are more like Roberts compared to the other three extremist in form of Gorsuch, Alito and Thomas.

I have been surprised by those two but I won't vouch for them though and the fact that RepubliQans are conceiving these unpopular and terrible ideas is enough suggestion that if they get their way they will attack so many rights and progress in the name of a christofascist America.
The court overturning this is one thing but conceiving terrible and retrogressive laws is another thing showing how dangerous these republiQans are today.

1stGenAmerican:
The annual revenue of Planned Parenthood who is appealing the bill, is $1.3 billion dollars and they employ very highly skilled attorneys. After the bill clears, money will pour into PP from everywhere, giving them more power. It’ll be a long and interesting fight.


Link to PDF of the bill
https://legiscan.com/OK/text/SB1553/id/2548068

They want it to be challenged because they seem confident that SCOTUS will rule in their favour.

RepubliQans are attacking every right that has been gotten since the civil rights era.

1stGenAmerican:
Neither the male or female parent will go to prison.
First of all, the bill needs to be signed and then I’m positive that an appeal will be filed almost immediately and that appeal will, without a doubt, cause the case to be heard by the Supreme Court. The chances of the appeal being won are pretty good. We don’t know who the USSC will be made up of by the time the appeal would be heard. Also, the USSC overturning Roe v Wade isn’t very likely.
In the case that the bill becomes law, I can guarantee that no women will go to prison for having an abortion. The language in the bill says that a medical professional/doctor that performs an abortion will be charged with a felony that can result in a prison sentence. Will the doctor be jailed for a first offense? Probably not. And any doctor charged will be challenging the law which will flood the courts.

Pro-lifers sometimes only think about regular scenarios like man gets woman pregnant and one or both don’t want the baby.

Food for Thought:
-suppose a doctor determines that the woman’s life is in real danger but the doctor’s determination is rejected and the woman is deemed fit to give birth when physically, she really isn’t and she dies during childbirth?
-a woman with severe Down’s Syndrome who lives in a facility becomes pregnant by another severely handicapped patient. She’ll be forced to give birth.
-suppose a 12 year old is raped by a drug addicted adult who is also a criminal and becomes pregnant. Under the bill, she would be required to give birth to a rapist’s baby. Having a baby so young would ruin a 12 year old’s life.
-The GOP is always trying to cut down the amount of social services benefits yet they want to ban abortions which will create more babies that may be dependent on social service benefits.
-This would cause many, many “back alley abortions” which can and will result in permanent injuries, death, or children born with severe deformities in cases of a failed abortion.
-Those wanting an abortion will just travel to places where its legal.

Don't you think that they know this will be challenged and they want it to go to SCOTUS where they are certain Roe v Wade will be overturned remember that SCOTUS did not overturn Texas SB8?

This is dangerous and I agree with you completely.

A second Trump term would have finished NATO for good.

These republiQans no longer hide how dangerous they are.

https://twitter.com/JohnWDean/status/1511475265867714561?t=VYoeeut-oKN-QWoZV99rtQ&s=19

benalvino3:
yes... you just did aba lawyer

Port harcourt clown try to stop mentioning me on this forum I have done well in avoiding you because I can never take you serious no matter how hard you try I would not reply you again do well to celebrate this wonderful moment where you got my attention..
Do well and get lost I really don't care about you or consider you important.

raumdeuter:
The bill was written in plain English. Quote verbatim where it says you can marry a 10yr old. There is nothing vague and ambiguous about the bill, Its very clear

Instead of owning that you and your friends have pedophilic fantasies you are blaming a bill that said nothing about it

Go and read about statutory interpretation and stop embarrassing yourself since you don't know that the legislature does not always write out everything so as to avoid bulkyness and vagueness/ambiguity.

Dude get a book and read not every law proposed is written in clear terms that is why we have legal experts who read this things to come up with the true intention of what the legislature was proposing.

I won't reply you anymore because it would mean that I am feeding into your cluelessness.

THE LAW MUST NOT BE EXPLICIT TO GET THE IMPLIED MEANING

It is only GQP clowns that have never heard a word about statutory interpretation it is only GQP clowns that think reading a word to it's literal meaning does not sometimes connote vague and ambiguous meanings that logic and other statutory interpretations when applied gives a clearer understanding of what the legislature intended.

Grown men embarrassing themselves lol I won't waste my time feeding into the alternative reality clowns want to live in.

The word must not be written in plain form to get a derived meaning or know what the legislature intended but how would dummies know this?

benalvino3:
the news is still reporting don't say gay bill. the award was opened with the lie don't say gay. fools like you should be able to recognize a lie. but simpletons will be simpletons.

take your shame and get lost. arrange the pant you will sell for tomorrow aba lawyer

Lol who is this clown go and meet your fellow clowns and get out of my mention do you see me mentioning you?

GQP clowns will call it fake news

https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvLw&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALZx2eVO-BxKwQqaMMhSQxFCyaDVXYYXPWkDva9xRaOqipnZwvVEzb4yQ1uE76Rhno0kP3bQKGeMb1N7PbmlTz6PjXG0jpHPb9kSNKKKhMhKKoXAhKlX-gMLmll_x-aSHrwdzIh40Y2F8GOTy8lGHDDmlw0nJjUzWbOtz49kfSN2

raumdeuter:
Layer show us the quote from the official documents that supports your claim. Running away after embarrasing yourself again?
I will think the first thing when arguing a point is to ensure you are quoting a legit source So you are not creating a fake argument out of nothing

Whenever you want to come here to post your liberal agenda, ensure you have official websites to back it up

Otherwise it will end in shame like the "Dont say Gay" bill and the "Pedophile bill"

I did not embarrass myself when every news outlet is reporting it and Sanpipita posted it to you.

The only person embarrassing himself here is actually you because even the republiQans you are defending have not come out for once to refute it as a lie.
If they succeed in passing the bill look for another lame defence to bring up keep trying to play dumb when even a 10 year old will not say this trash.

You are a joke and will be taken as one from now hence forth in the same group as bas and ben

raumdeuter:
You want anyone to take you serious but cannot post a legal document

You claim to be a lawyer, will you go to court and post Twitter links and random websites?

Show us the sentence that support your claim from the official links posted by sanpipita

raumdeuter:
Quote where it says that age requirement is eliminated

Get lost at this point you are embarrassing yourself.

I won't engage you further.
Everyone is wrong except you you are not serious the bill is clear and has been interpreted as it is but keep trying to play smart whereas you are not.

Just curious sha after women go to prison for abortions in Oklahoma what happens to the men who got them pregnant.

1stgenAmerican your attention is needed here.

raumdeuter:
Good, Now quote the particular phrase or statement where it says it makes it Okay for underage marriage like you guys have been claiming since

Raumdeuter what does eliminating age requirement mean is English that hard for you?

They are doing this because many women go to Oklahoma from Texas for abortions and we thought Texas was worse.
Oklahoma said hold my beer.

This is good news the great state of Oklahoma has criminalised abortion and has given it a total abortion ban


Welcome to Christofascist America

Those Democrats who sat down and watched Trump appoint federalist judges see what you did because Hillary and agent orange are the same with the courts in their power now the GQP can legislate their unpopular agenda through the court these people are certain that Roe v Wade is dead.

Hallelujah.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/05/oklahoma-lawmakers-bill-makes-abortion-illegal

After banning abortions, Loving v Virginia is next,Griswald V Connecticut is next and obergefell is next let the states decide.

sanpipita:
Look at it https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Bill/HB0233.pdf

https://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/default.aspx?BillNumber=HB0233&GA=112

I didn't even bother since all of us are lying this bill also wants to undermine Obergefell.


Raumdeuter after going through it come and defend this one too

sanpipita:
What do you expect, teens are left with no idea how to protect themselves, probably if you talk about contraceptives there it will be like a taboo, they will make a teen keep the baby even if she's raped

Yes abortion is bad so is contraceptives too remember Marsha Blackburn came out against Griswald v Connecticut a direct attack on privacy rights this woman is a senator from Tennesse who asked judge Jackson a silly question about what a woman is if these people care about children they will be against the proposed bill RepubliQans are attempting in her state but the GQP is just projecting what they are on democrats anyway.

There is no exception for rape and incest even in Conservative countries around the world that is an exception but in GQP christofascist America it is not.

raumdeuter:
Post the official document from the bill

Is there any official document for this bill or you just pulled it from one of those Democrats asss?

Show us the offical document

This excuse does not help your case the bill has three sponsors but do go on trying to be silly when you come across the official document bring it here and defend it too.

Lol
I am done with you there was a time I used to take you serious but you are truly no different from Trump republiQans