₦airaland Forum

aswani:
First off, I am not a President Tinubu anything so your last paragraph is superfluous.

Do you know what El Rufai said for him to end up where he was? How is such a thing that has to do with the national security risk bailable?

El Rufai failed a security assessment, maybe he should have handed Southern Kaduna Christians a bit better to pass it, which is where his bitterness came from. Why should the President override such?

So if CPC people behave badly, they should be untouched. Did the ACN people behave badly during President Buhari's regime? Some of those names you mentioned are suspected as being in bed with Fulani kidnappers and terrorists, the government should ignore that as they are CPC àbi?

Northerners are welcome to repay debts, quite frankly, no one is scared of those threats. It was during President Buhari's ineffectual regime that bandits became untouchable, some being seen in state government houses.

We know if Atiku wins, the Fulani terrorists menace would be worse and they will become untouchable again, especially going by his deleted tweet on Deborah Samuels.

Once more, making out the North gave President Tinubu x amount of votes might be factually true, but that was payback for what the Southwest gave President Buhari in order to dislodge PDP. I don't recollect people trying to beat President Buhari over the head on that like you are doing.

One other thing, Shettima refused his VP lodgings as he claimed without proof that it wadls bugged, if they remove him over that treachery, you will add him to your list of CPC people betrayed, forgetting conviniently that Osinbajo as VP served President Buhari faithfully.

Jokes on you. Elrufai was hounded at the airport upon his voluntary return to the country by the DSS. That was even before his interview that you all now latch onto. He is also currently being held by the ICPC. Is it the mandate of the ICPC to prosecute such? It has always been part of Tinubu's plans to remove Elrufai from the 2027 conversation because he lives in morbid fear of his capacity and that is not democracy. But time is a gentleman.

Atiku hasn't won but the Fulani menace has even gotten worse under your tin-god and they are now spreading into the SW while Matawalle, his minister of defence, calls for more prayers. Maybe he's just incompetent.

Now all his lackeys say is "hold your governors accountable". It will even get worse if state police comes into being because we may see an absolute dereliction of responsibility as regards to security by the FG.

Oshiomole couldn't deliver his state to Tinubu in 2023. Obi won Edo state.

shivisee:
Baba all these are junks you wrote are not reality of things but delusions , will it shock you that it’s the same northerners that asked Tinubu to arrest el rufia for over stepping his boundaries, the people that matters ,not rable rousers like your party ! Bookmark this page , Apc will domesticate the 2nd placed party with more than 2 million votes.

That says more about Tinubu than it says about the Northerners. If Aregbesola or Fayemi or even Osinbajo had asked Buhari to arrest and incarcerate Tinubu for their own selfish ambitions, would it say more about them or about Buhari if Buhari complies?

He is saying the bitter truth. The Southeast had the opportunity to get a foot in the door and launch into national prominence in 2027 by aligning with a huge section of the North in a coalition just like Tinubu did in 2015, but Obi choose to prioritise self-interest. In 2027, the region will go solo again and vote in isolation and then console themselves when they lose by saying they are the richest region, or that they are the only ones with the gift of identifying good leaders or another ridiculous self-consolation rhethoric. If the Southeast would not vote Atiku in 2027, they are better off voting Tinubu instead of voting in isolation. Another approach will be to spread their votes across different parties so they can have a stake in the eventual winner instead of backing the wrong horse in a one-way traffic.

aswani:
The reason the North gave him those votes was because he was in a Mega Party, the South West had also given their votes to President Buhari twice before as part of the formation of that party.

You are trying to make out that the North gave President Tinubu those votes without putting it in its proper context. That is quite wrong.

Don't forget President Buhari had been competing in CPC for a while and had failed.

I myself would be surprised if the current directionless opposition can beat President Tinubu. We shall see anyway.

Yes the SW gave Buhari 2.3m votes when the APC was formed and got repaid by the North. Under Buhari, Tinubu was also appointed the National Leader of the APC with Fowler, Dayo, Fashola, Aregbesola, and several other appointees from his camp. The SW also got Lagos-Ibadan Expressway, Lagos-Ibadan Railway, Lagos International Airport terminal, Lagos-Badagry road, etc all completed by Buhari. How has Tinubu repaid the North? His first act as president was to betray Elrufai and he went further to incarcerate him for a bailable allegation. Next he followed with Kashim Imam, Malami, Ganduje, Badaru, Goje, etc. Virtually all APC members from the CPC bloc are also being witch-hunted and this happened immediately after Buhari’s sudden death. Northerners always repay their debts. Good or bad.

You are now relying on Tinubu's unprecedented interference and destruction of our democracy as a vehicle he will use to win re-election but you will be disappointed. Time is a gentleman.

It seems when this one runs out of FG's lobby money he will quickly release a post about Christian genocide as a reminder for reimbursement. It's a shakedown.

Don't let APC lackeys fool you. If elections were to hold today, Tinubu will lose. The Southwest is one of the most politically diverse region in the country, only next to the Northcentral and that is Tinubu's only base. In 2027, he will struggle in the Southwest, even worse than he did in 2023.

angelboy01:
The point is if Obi doesn't go for a second term, does that stop a southerner from contesting?

Buhari contested 4 times in a row. Sowere has been contesting since God knows when. Even now, there are Northerners and Southerners in the race across party lines and no one is asking them to step down. Anyone still talking about zoning outside of a party arrangement is either trying to be clever by half or politically naïve.

Counterigbolies:
u wrote off the same tinubu who won even when he was an ordinary citizen despite all odds against him?

U are just playing

He was only able to do so because the North came through for him and gave him 5.6m votes. He would have been toast as he was totally defeated by Obi across the South, including in Lagos. But today you try to sell Tinubu as one kind of unbeatable candidate who made himself president. Time is a gentleman.

Emeskhalifa:
So coz you hosted the game, you must win it abi? IMO, don't even participate in the tournament anymore

Senegal displayed lack of sportsmanship for threatening to walk out of the pitch. It was an embarrassing moment for African football.

DavidVsGoliath:
Atiku is desperate

Is he more desperate than the one who promised to do only one term even though his region has never produced a president? Continuity or otherwise should be based on performance. If you are in the shoes of would-be voters in the North, would you vote the one who is constitutionally limited to doing only 4 more years or the one who "promised" to do only one term if voted into power? Not forgetting he supported Jonathan who reneged on that agreement that was in the PDP constitution. Obi should have never made zoning the fulcrum of his campaign.

yarimo:
Kwankwaso is not ready for any election in 2027

Kwankwaso is facing serious challenges in Kano for sabotaging the coalition. It may turn out to be a career-ending move. His antics have been figured out. Atiku will get very good numbers in Kano come 2027.

This one is only after 2031. Why shouldn't he? Does the Southeast not deserve two terms? Obi sabotaged himself and his region by pledging to do a single term out of desperation. Zoning is unconstitutional unless a political party chooses to make it part of their constitution or internal agreement. This was why Ojukwu ran for president in 2007 under APGA after 8 years of an Obasanjo presidency. No Northerner asked him then to step down or screamed that it was the turn of the North. They didn't do so because they had no pact with APGA.

seunmsg:
Nigeria has a revenue problem and that has been established. You are an Atiku lackey on this forum and you've voiced your opposition to all the efforts of the current administration to increase the revenue base of the country. So, tell us in details how Atiku will solve the revenue problem so that the country can have enough money to transform from a third world country to a first world country with freebies for citizens under 3 years. I am waiting.

Nigeria's problem is more of a spending problem and a corruption problem. What has Tinubu done with monies saved from subsidy removal? More revenue that he claims to have channeled to the governors without accountability. Yet, he keeps throwing more at them and even sometimes using coercion and state of emergencies to get them to decamp to his party. Can you explain why Tinubu has over 40 ministers and why he, Remi, and Seyi move in 100-vehicle convoys? Why is austerity only for the struggling citizens and not for Tinubu and his family? The first step will be for Tinubu to show some empathy and stop with the display of opulence and megalomania.

seunmsg:
The impact of the Tinubu administration is very visible. Only irresponsible people can deny the impact. We know the state of the economy when he took over and the situation today. In education, ASUU strike is a thing of the past. No one remembers it again. Folks who got admission in 2023 are now in final year preparing to graduate before the end of the year. Students from poor background no longer worry about how to get university education. One of them recently graduated as the best graduating student from LAUTECH. Of course, folks like you can't relate.

PMS queue is now long forgotten. It was an issue just two weeks to the 2023 election. Now, it seems no one remembers what the situation used to be. Again, we have about four massive international highways currently u der construction. These are projects that has the prospect of opening up so many economic opportunities for Nigerians. Some of these projects were conceived over 40 years ago with successive administration failing to get them started. One man has started everything in his first term.

Lol. ASUU strike, fuel queues? How can they be fuel queues when Dangote has excess refined fuel in his storage while Tinubu continues to import from Malta? That was Buhari, not Tinubu. He even tried to frustrate Dangote in the early days. Pound for pound, Buhari has more visible "completed" infrastructural projects on ground than Tinubu in his first tenure and he borrowed far less than Tinubu. He paid subsidy on both electricity and fuel and life was easier for the ordinary citizen than it is today. Should we talk about inflation rate? Continue to celebrate statistics and IMF validation but the lived realities of Nigerians says otherwise.

BrickandLace:
That's not even the point .
We know their game.

But you don't need to be a prophet to know what will happen if you bring back the current disaster in 2027.

Nigerians can all agree on that and anyone will probably be better than what we currently have. I just want Obidients to know that these attempts at selling Obi as one kind of messiah while every other candidate isn't, is a strategy that is bound to put off more people than it can win for them. There are no Kings! Tinubu ran on Emi Lokan and still got voted massively by the North. Sometimes, confident entitlement is more attractive than false pretence. The Southeast will have more success boldly selling Obi's candidacy as "turn of the Southeast" because it truly is. Just play your politics right with an alliance in mind because you can't do it alone.

seunmsg:
Nigeria has a revenue problem. In fact, that is our biggest problem right now. We also have a citizenry that wants freebies. We want free or subsidized PMS, free education, free electricity, free healthcare services, beautiful bridges and roads that are not tolled etc. However, anytime the discussion shifts to how to raise the money to pay for all these freebies, the irresponsible opposition jumps out to put down the discussion. So, where do you think money for the freebies will come from? Heaven?

If we want development, we must be willing to pay for it. That is the only way we can develop. If we refuse to take the issues of revenue generation seriously, we wont make any meaningful progress as a country.

Despite all these, Tinubu and his immediate family moves in a 70-vehicle SUV convoy and he has the largest cabinet in the history of this country. All he knows is taxation, loans and revenue but impact is zero. You can only tax prosperity. Tinubu has impoverished Nigerians and yet he continues to squeeze.

In your view, only an Igboman can fix Nigeria. It's ironic this is coming from someone who voted Orji Uzo Kalu twice, Theodore Orji twice and Okezi Ikpeazu twice. Even Obi is a two-term governor of Anambra. Did he turn Anambra to Eldorado? Obiano and Soludo beg to differ. Promote your tribesman in peace but quit trying to sell him as the sweetest thing since sliced bread. Keep playing isolation politics and when you lose out, console yourself by claiming you are the only ones who could spot a good leader. At least, other regions are sighting 15 trillion naira projects in their regions with loans that will be repaid by all Nigerians, including your children.

If the IMF asks Tinubu to jump, he only asks "how high?"

Be rest assured that Tinubu will comply. He practically lives for IMF validation and would do anything they say in exchange for a tap on the back.

WizardOfNG:
Ultimately and inevitably, the North and South will seperate so Northerners, leaders and followers, who all appear to be in bed with terror can go and join their terrorist Sahel affiliates of Niger Republic, Mali, Burkina Faso, Chad etal.

It is going to happen. Only a question of time. Northern Nigeria, especially their born-to-rule leaders, cannot read the mood in the room to note the world is getting fed up of the trouble they are causing Nigeria.

Especially because they are of relatively neglible value with the SS and SW being the regions the world see as trading and productive assets.

The joke is on you. The president has Matawalle, who pioneered negotiations with bandits while he was governor, as his minister of defence and who only yesterday, said only God can end insecurity in the country. He has an NSA who referred to bandits as his "brothers." He also has several APC governors who are openly negotiating with terrorists in their states and granting amnesty to repentant terrorists all under the guise of "non-kinetic approach" and he keeps mum. He only remembers he's Commander-in-Chief when it comes to declaring state of emergencies in politically non-compliant states and incarcerating opposition figures.

Gimba Kakanda, a government critic turned Shettima-appointee, now sells hope to the populace.

Meanwhile, our Minister of state for Defence...

Lanre1st:
Oyetola is not contesting. It's an arrangee deal

No, but his stooge, Ambo is. How is it an arrangee deal? Wouldn't it have been easier to accept Adeleke into the APC as Adeleke himself wanted? We all know Oyetola was against the defection because he can't wait to takeover Osun from Adeleke now that his cousin is C-in-C and Tinubu succumbed. Meanwhile, in states like Enugu and Kano, he came down heavy-handedly on Nnaji and Ganduje when they resisted the defections of the opposition governors in their states. Double standard and favoritism. Unbecoming of a president.

LegendHero:
Osun state in the bag. Atiku no go see draw for there.

I come dey like Adeleke now. Anyone wey like Tinubu, I like them.

Dey play. Is Aregbesola a joke to you? Despite what Adeleke says, the people of Osun knows he's only trying to patronise Tinubu until he secures his re-election. Even Tinubu knows.

Okay but if the elections are tribalised, Tinubu cannot win. Atiku won Osun in 2023. 2023 was more of the Southern turn than 2027 is. Patronising Tinubu will not save you if you lose guard. Tinubu is willing to do everything to ensure that he regains control of Osun, through his cousin, Oyetola.

zenburster:
Atiku will always claim that North - South rotational presidency doesn't exist anymore, yet he will remember it exists when it's time to pick a veepee.

Why doesn't he look for a northerner to act as his veepee? At least Northerners always boast about their population during elections.

Yet he will not.

Atiku is a proper hypocrite

Because Ojukwu contested the 2007 elections under APGA after 8 years of Obasanjo and he was supported by Peter Obi. Did Atiku ask Ojukwu not to contest then? Zoning was a purely PDP affair and Atiku, along with several other PDP members simply asked Jonathan to respect the party's constitution and the agreement they had. What pact does Atiku have with you? Zoning is not in the Nigerian constitution. Only some few political parties embed it in their constitution. Atiku owes you nothing!

Counterigbolies:
so el rufai is no longer the terrorist that killed christians in southern kaduna but now the best?

If Elrufai is a terrorist that killed Christians then that makes Tinubu an accomplice too because he was all over the place during the campaigns begging Elrufai to help make him president. "Dear brother Nosiru", he called him. Is Seyi Makinde the latest terrorist in town? Or that's a nomenture only reserved for Elrufai by the hypocrites?

I just thought to add that Mallam Nasir Ahmed El-Rufai served as member of that transition committee that was set up by Abdulsalami. This is for those who always say Atiku discovered Elrufai. He was already an established young millionaire with a thriving surveying firm named "Elrufai and Partners". Elrufai is also the first chartered Quantity Surveyor in Nigeria and the first to graduate with a first class in that field in Nigeria. If the current usurpers in power think they can incarcerate one of Northern Nigeria's best without repercussion. They are mistaken. They have only taken a debt that will be repaid in full.

EmmaFantastic2:
You're wrong oh. Long ago, they renamed national stadium Abuja to M. K. O. Abiola stadium

That was Buhari. It was also Buhari who declared June 12 as Democracy Day in honour of Abiola and bestowed all rights and privileges of a president to him, posthumously. Tinubu has never even mentioned Abiola by name ever since he became president. His goal is to position himself as the greatest Yorubaman that ever liveth. Going by character traits of people like him, he will attempt to go for a third term if he wins in 2027 just to prove to Obasanjo that he did what he could not do. Thankfully, we will never know.

WorldRichest:
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That award to Joe Yorubakwe is to mock you bitterer souls. Tinubu na Babanla mocker

He is simply bastardising our institutions as he has since been doing. Have you checked the list of civilian awardees? 98% are from the Southwest. He may think he's on to something there but he's only undermining the prestige of what used to be a recipient of a national honour.