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HardMirror:
Ohhh so cute. That is how people with nothing try to feel import. Son of a king. Sound so much like my baby cousin.

That is why i said, you were never a believer. How will you not know who Christians are to God.

HardMirror:
It's funny how you people expect me to start giving account to you, for all I know you could be a kid with low IQ that does not worth giving accnt to. Who are you to deserve answers from me?

Hahahahahahahahaha. If you know how hard u made me laugh. "A kid with a low IQ". I hoping yiu'd say " A xhristian with a low lQ".

Guy, dont do it for us, do it for the young athieats community you want to raise in NL. Prove to them first hand that God doesnt exist, having first hand ezperience as it is.

Answer the questions and put God to shame. You shouldnt be tired of doing that nah. Am not tired of testifying his goodness.

HardMirror:
Those who read pastor to atheist thread would be having a good laugh at you guys. The issue is not posting it, the issue is I want you to know u can't demand anything from me.

HardMirrow you are forgetting i was in that thread? You are dorgetting i challenged you to post your redemptive experience which till today you declined? They will indeed laufh becos like you they are liars.

What stops you from reposting it here, isn't the experience yours? Have u forfotten it? When u lie first u need to keep lying to cover the first lie.

As a Pastor, what was your greatest encounter?

How did God reveal rhema to you?

These are what every child of God has experienced, tell us and make your athiests friends happy that you knew and experienced all that yet discovered there is no God.

HardMirror:
Not yet. He uses a ninja like image to represent mohamed and refers to him as "not mohammed" lol

See the liar trying to derail the thread.

Cc: Lalaaticlala. Hardmirrow is breaking the Niaraland law. Rule no1. Pls do the needful.

hopefulLandlord:
yet we all saw the Christian apologists' dodgicology when this same Hardmirror opened the below thread

https://www.nairaland.com/3279516/imagine-god-talks-people-claimed

Hopeful.. Wey no get hope. Are you a jumping Chicken? Why are you jumping about? You want to leave this one to somerhing esle. Why are you so inconsistent? Focus and finish what we have at hand.

hopefulLandlord:
yet we all saw the Christian apologists' dodgicology when this same Hardmirror opened the below thread

https://www.nairaland.com/3279516/imagine-god-talks-people-claimed

Hooeful.. Wey no get hope. Are you a jumping Chicken? Why are you jumping about? You want to leave this one to somerhing esle. Why are you so inconsistent? Focus.

HardMirror:
Ehya!
Sorry. Keep waiting.

Its well ooo. Make una come see pesin wey want destroy christianity wey no sabi how to do am. If u been be pastor wey discover say no God, give ur fellow athiest a solid reason to believe say no God true true, afterall na u don enter inside come out.
See how pathetic u r.

HardMirror:
Even if I was lying, it's so easy for me to go back and copy and paste the conversion story. I am just enjoying the attention I am getting from you people

Liar liar Pants on fire. I have been waiting for that converaion experience till today. I asked for it, no one else did. U never answered me, here u r lying that you did.
Enjoy the attention that shows you are a liar.

hopefulLandlord:
bros, so its no longer his attempt at converting Azo (an atheist) while in school again?

its now shifted to his personal conversion experience

Okay sir

He attempted to convert an athiest on what conviction? What gave him the ASSURANCE OF SALVATION that indeed Jesus is Lord?

When we say Jesus/Holy Spirit is a person who talks back to his people, you laugh to scorn.
I asked HardMirrow to tell us how the Holy Spirit communicated with him since he had a relationship with him to the point of being a pastor.

Ranchhoddas:
You have not answered the question. Can a true, born again, Spirit-filled, tongue-speaking, miracle-working pastor backslide?

Yes ooo. Spirirual carelessness can gradually lead there. Persecution. I know one.

HardMirror:
Ok. Just to massage your ego. You think you are that important right?

Yes he is very important. He is a Christian. A king's kid, an heir to the eternal throne, an hier to the only Potentate. The King of the Universe who rules in the affairs of the kingdoms of men. Overthrowing empires and raising up kings. Well, you wont know anything about that since you are an Apostle of satan.

4everGod:
He will never answer that question simply because he has none and has been masquerading as a Pastor same way fake policemen move around with fake uniforms and fake ID cards.

The guy is falsehood in human flesh

Shame on satan.
Yet people believe that he was indeed a pastor. In their little small minds they believe that if they say "I was once a pastor, but am an athiests", all Christians will fall away from faith. They fail to realize they just fulfilled scriptures.

checkengine:
Lalasticala would u mind doing something about this thread going to frontpage please? It needs to get seen as it might help a lot of people get it right.

CC Anas09

Pls Lalasticlala. So many marriages are breaking up and its mostly our fault as women. A man was created to rule, when that is taken from him, it breaks him. The weak ones stay, the strong ones leave.

Today women make money just like men, no problem in that, but what i dont get is, Why do we enjoy and spend the man's money and call it "Our Money", but its the woman's ahe refers to it as " My money?".
When we spend the mans money, no one hears about it, when the man spends our money everybody hears about it. And who said it's strickly a man's job to bring in money? What does it take to make money? Wisdom, hard work, not Dick or cunt.

Pls lets be women and allow our men pamper us. Funny enough you rule subtily.

Ranchhoddas:
Can they 'come out' without any form of help. An atheist dedicated at birth is most likely oblivious of that fact (that he's demon-possesed). How does he solve a problem he does not know he has?

He has conscience, thats why he hides to steal, he lowers his voice to lie, he will not take a knife and kill anyone he hates. He has conscience.
That is his help.

Doreen Irvine was born without the knowledge of God, as a Child she was taken to sunday school, it was a disaster as she will beat every other child and cause serious havoc. She prefered to go to a particular grave where as far as she was concerned, made friends with who was buried there to play, instead of being in church. She grew up a rebel. An atheist, Yet, she is saved.

4everGod:
Conversion experience or conviction are strange words to them expecially to hardmirror being the liar he is so they wouldn't understand why it is relevant or necessary for a genuine child of God who claimed to have worked in Gods vineyard to have had one.

He knows we know he is a liar .

Am waiting for hardMirrow

Ranchhoddas:
Can they 'come out' without any form of help. An atheist dedicated at birth is most likely oblivious of that fact (that he's demon-possesed). How does he solve a problem he does not know he has?

I dont know how to upload Youtube videos, i would have posted a video of an Ex- Satanist. He rose to the post of a high Priest. Did everything there was ti do, everything.
He got so empry inside and druatrated that satan told him to glorify himself by shooting himself and passing on to eterniry where they will await Amagedon war when satan will iver throw God and take over the world. His salvation came as he did what no one who is suicidal will do, instead of writing a note, he made a call to say good bye to a Friend. That friend intervene, today, he is everywhere preaching the same gispel he hated.

What surprises me is, why atheists, Satanists, gays and the rest post the same arguement agaiant God.

Doreen Irvine who wrote "From Witchcraft to Christ", was delivered too. She went from being a strip dancer to a satanist to a grand Witch incharge of a Coven. she contested and won the Witch of the year in Europe by Casting spells and doing their dark Arts.

She walked into a Church believing she could deal with a certain srurborn pastor once and for all. But, at last today she is preaching the same gospel she hated.

They still have their consciences. The Satanists, Witches and Wizards here in Nl hiding under the guise of Atheism still have Consciences, so can repent. Even a mad man have periods of sanity. They won't repent because satan has promised them a place in hell. But they lie by saying no hell. They know. Satan's best tactics is to hide.

johnydon22:
Not everyone who is a Christian or pastor or anything has a conversion story - in fact most don't..

So you still has not shown how he is a liar or how his story is invalidated because of lack of conversion story - this is not Saul to Paul's tale.

Excuse me sir. Anyone who does not have a testimony of conversion is just a church goer, not a Christian. Its like being in a garage hoping you'd become a car.
There's no Christian without a story of redemption. What happened for you to abandon your former ways for this one?

It will be laughable for you to tell me that a man will become born again, (Do you even understand what it means to become born again), and rise to become a Pastor without a remarkable encounter with Christ. How was he getting his messages for his flocks?

What is the bases of his faith? There's what the Bible calls CONVICTION, On what bases was he standing on to profess his faith?

Was his teaching sense based or Holy Spirit inspired?

Blind Bateamus said, "I dont know who you said Jesus is, but there's one thing i know, that once i was blind, but now i can see". That was his testimony of conversion.

My own was that, as an unbeliver, i was to undergo an Appendicitis surgery, but my beliving mum and her prayer group first prayed for, not to die before getting to the hispital for i was critical, but i fell into a peaceful sleep and dreamed i had that surgery, that was it till today. That marked by becoming a believer.

One can lie about other things, but if he lies about the things of the spirit, he will be caught. Thats because the Holy Spirit will reveal him.

HardMirror:
I guess you know my life story more than me. How does this thread contradict anything I have ever claimed? In my "from pastor to atheist" did I not reveal that I was scared of telling people I was no longer a christian and even kept praying and ministering to people while I was secretly an atheist?
You just want to be petty

Where you indeed a pastor? What was your Testimony of redemption? Who were you before you became a believer?
What did you encounter that convinced that Jesus was indeed the Christ before you became a Christian?

The Holy Spirit communicates with believers in different ways, How was he communicating with you?

At what point did you discover there was no God? What happen?

Ooo wait!!! I know. You and your pastor fasted for 70days for Boko haram to stop killing Christians, wen they did not stop, God ceased to exist and you became an athiest.

johnydon22:
Please tell me how being a secret atheist is not same as being an atheist and therefore how HardMirror's "Pastor to atheist" transition is contradicted by him being a closet atheist before becoming outspoken..

I'm so eager to know.

Oh pls Harsmirror was never a Pastor. All the questions posted to him, he jumped them all.

I personally asked him to post here his Testimony of conversion. Everyone who was living in sin must have a remarkable encounter that brings about the decision to turn around from sin to follow Jesus. What was his? He dodged it.

I can pose as anybody and present another well known indiciduals experiences as mine, it won't make me that person. It's wen we start question and anawers we get to know if the answers align with our stories.

I have a testimony of conversion, every real believer has. Being in Church is not the same thing as being in Christ.

HardMirror:
Hmmm... Talking about demons and heaven. Do you remember the sons of god that left heaven when they say the beautiful daughters of men?
Makes me wonder how boring heaven is. Or could it be that those who created your god and religion did not know that story would do more damage to the religion?
Keep dreaming

I expexted an ex-Christian to know the difference between Christianity and religion, but no, you dont.

And you have convinced youraelf that you have said aomething very intelligent right. How damaging is that story?

Hahahahahahaha. You are such a slow guy. I wont even waste my time on you, you are not worth it. And, dont worry about the boring heaven, you shall indeed enjoy a boisterous hellfire.

Ranchhoddas:
They were not born 'demon-possessed' and those actions that might have brought about their 'demon-possession' might have been inadvertent. Should they still get punished for this; especially considering the magnitude of the punishment that awaits them.

To whom you yield yourself to, you become servants to obey Rom. 6:16.

Most demon poasessed dabbled into ocult materials or their parents dedicated them to demons at birth or as they grow to serve satan.

Most of the angry athieats here are demon possessed. How you know is wen u antagonize satan or anything evil, their aggression tells you they are protecting their own. On a normal day, an athiest shouldn't bother if you go against satan.

No demon possesses anyone without their consent or dedication by someone.
Even at that, rhe demon possessed still have conscience but they yield to satan, and God wont force them out of their choices. Dont tell me they cant come out, cos they can. What they are is what they have chosen.

Ranchhoddas:
This means that from the start, some people have already been destined for the eternal barbeque. Not cool at all.

Hello... Not correct, what is correct is that, Some People who have been sold to the devil by reason of their actions. Somany here in NL are demon possessed, they are living sacrifices to satan, no matter what they see or hear, they wont believe. And God cant force them too, fact is, when they appear before him, they will be asked if they heard the word preached? They cant say no.

Ranchhoddas:
Lolz. I love your style. If a person converts, it's a testimony and a soul has been saved. On the other hand, if a person ''decamps'', it's a fulfilment of prophecy. Either way you win. I am speechless.

God Wins. Many scriptures have been posted to this effect.

God never said everyone will believe, hence judgement. They are some people who will fall off on the day of Rapture. Just denounce Christ, the next minute the trumpet sounds.

xendra:
exactly what I meant. but I always tell people, if you are a real Christian you can't be deceived for long, as long as you sincerely seek the truth you can't be held in the dark for long. but d fake Christians, yes permit me to call them fake, will never see the truth no matter how many times it stares at them in the face.

Be not decieved for God is not mocked,for what ever a man sows,that will he reap. Gal 6:7

Very true. Being led by Holy Spirit is what defines Christians. If i wasnt doing what i was doing with the notion that i was doing it to God, i would not have heard the "Human worship" warning.
Insensitivity to the Spirit is another thing. Wen we are not sensitive no matter how long we look at an error, we'll never accept its an error. Or if we are the rype that wants to be told what we want to hear, we'll just bask in our ignorance and slide into hell.

4everGod1:
I guess I must be insane fof listening to that voice and that insane man is sane enough to log on to the internet, open web pages, know peecisely what site to visit, click on reply on that site or quote and then type a super intelligent response to your highly imaginative opinion.

My experience is mine... when you have yours then my explanation would make sense to you. Until you do, explaining or discussing this with you is as good as trying to speak queens english to a Lizard.

xendra:
lol.. yes you are right, but there are some who go to churches where it seems like they are doing the right thing, everything is as expected in the church but if ever they come to know about their pastors personal life it is going to break their heart real bad as they have given so much of themselves and their time to his work.

You just described me some years back. I got caught up in a web of Man worship without even realizing it. In trying to be grateful and appreciative for a kindness done to me, i lost sight of the fact that, God is behind everything anyone does for you, and as mush as we show gratutude to them, we do not allow them take God's place.

When my attention was diverted to that man of God, I started hearing, Idolatry, Manworship, Adolatry, Manworship. At first i didnt understand it because i never saw what i was doing as wrong. Then something happened. There was rumour of sexual infidelity between my pastor and a choir girl. If this girl starts singing....
Then she married, got pregnant, but it was rumoured that the pregnancy was not her husband's.

Note: All these, i didnt believe any of it, until she lost the pregnancy, went to another church for deliverance, confessed her sins and left the church. I was Crutched. I was angry, I almost got discouraged. But i stayed in that church for two years and prayed for him to repent for what he did and for God to forgive him.

I had to leave, i asked God where to go, he directed me to where i am now.

I think God needed me to know that no matter how aninionted a man of God is, he is still a man. He is a man first before God comes in. No one should look up to any man of God as would God, but most time we do this without realizing it. Today, i know differently and see differently.

Again, its a totally different senario from glaring error, unscriptural errors being practuced in the name of Church.

seggzz:
How do you know it's a christian god that's is speaking to you? did know what is sensed presence effect of the mind or auditory hallucinations?

Really? Are you just trying to be funny? After Muhammed have u ever heard of Allah talking to anyone else? Have you ever heard that a god talked to anyone?

4everGod:
Its obvious you just want to be spiteful. In all this I put up there was that all you could see? You obviously did not see the reason why I told her those happened. She was not even interested in those as those could not solve her problem but received them nevertheless as an encouragement.

Plus you also cleverly left out the part where the husband is now solidly into production business and loving it. Are they receiving free stuff now? No! They are now working hard and working well for their tomorrow. Well you will always see what you choose especially when you have personal issues with God just like you do.

Being spiteful helps nobody...it rather hurts the one full of spite.

Being spiteful only hurts the one full of spite by keeping him perpertually and angrily bitter.

4everGod:
Word! Honestly I personally have decided to focus more on scripture and personal testimonies when discussing here on nairaland.

Lots of Bible antagonists here have decided to only see what they have programmed themselves to see and never beyond that and alas there is nothing we can do so arguments are absolutely unnecessary.

If there is no falling away first then all we preach would be lies...There will always be believers and unbelievers as God never said everyone would be a believer before He would Judge the world...He only wants them to be witnessed to and if those who already knew the word now wish to move away from it, Let them know that God had already spoken about them and their actions before now so they are free to continue in what they wish.

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord!

As a matter of fact, our Lord Jeaus aaid, "The Road to heaven is rough, straight, (no crookedness) and narrow, not many will find it. But the other road is Wide and spacious and many ahall find it.

Let them see what they have programmed themselves to see, the means determines the end.

xendra:
well, it is undeniably true that most pastors aren't in it for the right reasons, that's why we have these problems. if people would focus more on Christianity, look beyond "churchiality" they would see these people for who they truly are, we would not let them use, deceive and frustrate us out of the right path like they successfully do everyday.
most churches these days are just good business for the pastors

My dear, anyone who is deceived wants to be decieved. Wen we believed, we were given the Holy spirit to guide us, but if we neglect him, then we will be decieved by the devil.
Theres a Church "So called" close to my house (Alabaster House Assembly, run by a Ghanian), These people do all manner of unheard of things in the name of church. Not long ago, it was their red Candle Service. By 12Mid day, every body ons their red Candles and chant after their prophet. Yesterday was their Coconut Service. They bought all the coconut in the market, after their rituals, they poured everything on the road for the innocent people walk on, whatever that means.

Can we now say, the people who go there and do these things do not know that what is going on there is ungodly? Are they decieved? I say no. They know what they are doing.

You think i would be surprised if one of rhem turns atheist tomorrow. At least HardMirrow here on NL was such a man. So...

xendra:
well, it is undeniably true that most pastors aren't in it for the right reasons, that's why we have these problems. if people would focus more on Christianity, look beyond "churchiality" they would see these people for who they truly are, we would not let them use, deceive and frustrate us out of the right path like they successfully do everyday.
most churches these days are just good business for the pastors

My dear, anyone who is deceived wants to be decieved. Wen we believed, we were given the Holy spirit to guide us, but if we neglect him, then we will be decieved by the devil.
Theres a Church "So called" close to my house (Alabaster House Assembly, run by a Ghanian), These people do all manner of unheard of things in the name of church. Not long ago, it was their red Candle Service. By 12Mid day, every body ons their red Candles and chant after their prophet. Yesterday was their Coconut Service. They bought all the coconut in the market, after their rituals, they poured everything on the road for the innocent people walk on, whatever that means.

Can we now say, the people who go there and do these things do not know that what is going on there is ungodly? Are they decieved? I say no. They know what they are doing.

You think i would be surprised if one of rhem turns atheist tomorrow. At least HardMirrow here on NL was such a man.

Ranchhoddas:
Winner01 will not like this...

And why won't he? Tares are planted in the same field as the wheats, getting the same nurishment and care from the husband man, awaiting the time of fruit bearing. Now is her time, she has revealed her true nature.

Truely speaking, if these thinks don't happen, thats wen Christians shd be concerned really. Thats wen we shd have a reaaon to ask ourselves "But how come what the Bible says isn't getting fulfilled?".

But here we are, Praiae God, the word of God is true.

To those who do not understand, they think satan is winning, but there's nothing, not a single thing happening now that hasnt been prophesied.

Much more will happen. Men of God whom the world have known will turn away. It doeant matter, God remains God, and what He has purposed will come to pass.

Recently a Bishop in Anglican Church again declared he is Gay, he is still in the office of a Bishop. Not long from now, the Pope will declare " There's no God". It wont change a thing.

I dont need any of them to be convinced of whom i have believed. I have a testimony.