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lordnicklaus:
Lolssss!!!!! Koran don suffer.... Hope u stay alone cos peeps will not take it funny. The smell will be horrific. I will try it also.
Cc Anas09 analice107

justlove91:
To correct you sir, even though Ali Sina now believes in God and Jesus, it is not like the one presented by the Christians that, I can assure you. He believed God and Jesus as described by NDE. He is NOT a Christian in the sense that you mean, he doesn't belief in salvation by Christ sacrifice, eternal hell etc that a Christian must believe in.
You said an ex Muslim asked him about the mediumship entities and he was against them, I will really appreciate it if you could provide a link to that.
On your question, you've to firstly eliminate the idea or at least suspend your idea that these entities are demons or Satan preaching love.
You asked that on what premise do they preach unconditional love, I don't quiet get that, do you mean what authority they have in preaching about love?
You then asked what kind of love them preach, that I can answer.
You see like I said these beings preach unconditional love to all and said this is the kind of love that God has, but they made it completely clear that this love is a tough love why, because you can't separate it from justice. In fact to them love and justice are two sides of the same coin, you can't claim you have one without having the other, so that when you say God is love it also means God is justice.
In the light of this, even though we all agree that Christ death is an express of unconditional love but he NEVER died for our sins or wash away any sin because even though his death shows love, it completely contradict justice.
It is the nature of justice that it is ONLY melted out on who did the transgression. Whatsoever YOU sow, YOU will reap. We can't sow evil and expect Jesus or someone else to reap it, that is not justice.
So even though your belief that Jesus died for our sins shows love on his part but it COMPLETELY contradict justice that will never allow anybody to suffer for the offence committed by another.
This is the kind of love NDE and these entities preach that is why they both doesn't preach salvation by Christ death but salvation by showing Christ love.

I did not say the ex-Muslim asked him about Mediumship, I said he asked a similar question. That one had to do with Dark Arts or black magic, which also uses these beings. Ali Sina warned him to stay away from that.

You mean i shd eliminate the idea that these beings are demons? What then will there be? In the Spirit realm, there are either Angels or demons, no neutrals. If i agree they are not demons, what then do i call them?

No, am not asking for the authority on which they preaxh love. Am asking for a reason for which they preach unconditional love.
This is becos, as i said before, Love comes with sacrifice and giving. Giving something to some one who do not deaerve it and who didnt even ask for it, but give anyways, as examplified by Christ given His love and sacrificing his life for humanity.

Now, i ask again, what has these beings done.for humanity to express their love. Telling me i love you umconditionally without any tanginle thing to give to me, is not enough.

You cant live without giving.

What have they given?

Lol. Christ died, but never died for our sins, is this the mesaage from these beings? because if you are talking about the same NDE that i have also seen and am still seeing, the Jesus they all talk about is the one who died and took away out sins, and thats the reason they themselves believes and become Christians.

Lol @sowing and expecting Jesus to reap. Your imformation as to who Jesus is, is limited.

Do you know what these words means redemption, atonement, Ransome, propitiating? That is what Christ did for mankind. He did not reap our sins. He payed a randsome for our lives and redeemed us from the power of death.

Justice does not come in here at all. Have you ever heard the Word "Justification?". Justification doesnt deny your crime. It doesnt pretend or cover what you did. It accepts it, but says to you " GO".

BEFORE THE LAW, YOU ARE GUILTY, but go. Why? Because, someone more powerful and more capable stepped in and took the blame and paid the debt (Ransome). So, go, but sin no more

This is how we actually know if those beings are good or evil.
If they preach God's unconditional love which was only expressed by God, only through the sacrificial death of His son, how can the same beings deny the death of Christ, if they are indeed for God.

In other words those beings deny Christ. And, yet preach the umconditional love of God.


Guy, you have been deceived.

This is Ali sina Twitting.

He introduced himself as a Christian. There are no two types of Chriatians.

justlove91:
To correct you sir, even though Ali Sina now believes in God and Jesus, it is not like the one presented by the Christians that, I can assure you. He believed God and Jesus as described by NDE. He is NOT a Christian in the sense that you mean, he doesn't belief in salvation by Christ sacrifice, eternal hell etc that a Christian must believe in.
You said an ex Muslim asked him about the mediumship entities and he was against them, I will really appreciate it if you could provide a link to that.
On your question, you've to firstly eliminate the idea or at least suspend your idea that these entities are demons or Satan preaching love.
You asked that on what premise do they preach unconditional love, I don't quiet get that, do you mean what authority they have in preaching about love?
You then asked what kind of love them preach, that I can answer.
You see like I said these beings preach unconditional love to all and said this is the kind of love that God has, but they made it completely clear that this love is a tough love why, because you can't separate it from justice. In fact to them love and justice are two sides of the same coin, you can't claim you have one without having the other, so that when you say God is love it also means God is justice.
In the light of this, even though we all agree that Christ death is an express of unconditional love but he NEVER died for our sins or wash away any sin because even though his death shows love, it completely contradict justice.
It is the nature of justice that it is ONLY melted out on who did the transgression. Whatsoever YOU sow, YOU will reap. We can't sow evil and expect Jesus or someone else to reap it, that is not justice.
So even though your belief that Jesus died for our sins shows love on his part but it COMPLETELY contradict justice that will never allow anybody to suffer for the offence committed by another.
This is the kind of love NDE and these entities preach that is why they both doesn't preach salvation by Christ death but salvation by showing Christ love.

Wow, So, one can believe in Jehovah and Jesus outside of the Bible? Islam have it's own version of Jesus but that is not the Jesus Ali sina believes in. As much as i know, Ali Sina at first didnt believe in the Bible, then he believed.

This is one of his articles.

Dear Friends,
For years I spent many hours until late at night writing articles and responding to your questions about Islam. I did this out of love for you and love for humanity. I asked nothing in exchange. Many of you wrote to say you owe your freedom to me. That is my reward and I ask for nothing more.
Now, very evil forces are threatening my livelihood. While there is no point in going into details I am a victim of malicious machinations which has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with greed and wickedness.
The good news is that now I trust in God and have faith that He will deliver me from all evil. I put all my affairs in His hand and have complete faith in His assistance. I prayed for many of you when you wrote to me confiding in me your personal woes. I felt your pain and pleaded God for your deliverance. Now I need your prayers. God promises, “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.” Please pray to our heavenly Father that he either takes me Home or delivers me from my enemies. Spirit is strong but flesh is weak. I feel weak, violated, abused and helpless.
I don’t know what God has in store for me. Why He puts me under this much tribulation? What is He trying to teach me that I don’t get? I am sure He knows I am a human and can take it only so much.
This is serious. But prayers work. They are very powerful. I need some moments of relief. For some reason God is keeping me in this world when I yearn to go. While here I don’t need much comfort, but I also don’t want too much tribulations. Please ask Him to stop my tribulations and the wicked souls that harm me so they can amass wealth at my expense that will not serve them in this world nor in the next. I feel helpless, powerless and weak. Only God can deliver me and I beg you to pray for me.
May God bless you all and remove your pains and sufferings.

Ali Sina

Does that sound like a non Christian?

Ali Sina is a Christian sir.

justlove91:
Same here, I would like us not to argue about these entities identity because as you rightly said you can only look at it from Biblical respective while I will look at it from another, so it's better we leave it.
When did you follow Ali Sina last? Do you know he is not an atheist anymore? He now belief in God(not in a religious sense) through his study of near death experiences and writes more wonderful articles now.
I once sent a message to him to study the Grail message when I was reading it the time he was an atheist, he said he was busy reading some books then and can't promise to read the Grail message (Perhaps about near death experiences). I don't even know where I put his email, but I will check and get back to you if am able to send him the discourse.
Moreover, I don't think it is necessary to send it to him, since he got "converted" by studying near death experiences am almost sure he will agree with me that these entities are not devils. If you've ever studied near death experiences, you would know that the teachings they brought back and what these mediumship entities are saying are basically the same ie LOVE which is the reason I got interested in it also. And you should note that most of the near death messages also contradict Biblical doctrines like salvation by Jesus sacrifice, eternal hell etc. You can read more about NDE at www.near-death.com
Why did you say Ali Sina knows better about this? Did you know whether he has studied mediumship?

I just know he knows. And yes i know he is now a Christian, i follow him closely.

An ex-muslim sent him a mail similar to what you are.saying here about these beings, he warned the guy to stay away from stuff like that. He insisted they are demons.

Before we drop this, pls kindly answer the concept of love presented according to these beings.

I asked some questions with regards to this. Pls answer then we'll drop it.
I just want to know, because these being preaching unconditional love is strange. Do they even know what that even means?

paulGrundy:
Here is a quote from BERNIMORE trying to put up a defence for Russells changed 1914 quotes by the watchtower society in order to hide hy failed 1914 end of world prediction.



https://www.nairaland.com/1525969/jman05-bernimoore-jonahs-warning-vs/4

Going through his thread, you could see that he was ardently trying to make a case for JW's and even has a superior knowledge of watchtower doctrines.

IMOA a non-JW, no matter the admiration for the society, cannot go that to put up a defence for the society, such one would have grey areas where he expressed divergent views from that of the society.

BERNIMORE, has never raised questions or expressed an open disagreement on any watchtower views.

Questioning watchtower or a disagreeing with what the "truth" teaches is grounds for disfellowshipping.
Now that is suspicious!

That's his business.

justlove91:
The love am talking about here is not love for organization or its members, these spirits actually preach about UNIVERSAL LOVE. These entities preach unconditional love for everyone, like the name implies, unconditional means that you don't have be a spiritualist, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, atheist, materialist etc for me to love you, this love is without ANY condition, these entities preach about making love a state of your being not something you express to someone because they meet any criteria.
Am surprised you can still call that demonic teachings.

You have gone far into this to know all this.

Am at a loss on how to go about having this discussion with you, because if i come from a Christian Perspective you'll accuse me of biase. And the only perspective i can look at these spirits is from the Biblical perspective wirhout which we can't even know about the existence of these spirits in the first place.

When you talk about Universal, unconditional love, on what premise are these spirits standing on to talk about this kind of love?

The unconsitional love Christ preached was hinged on forgiveness giving.
Forgiveneas of sins which we as humans didnt deserve and didnt ask for, but he gave anyways.

Christ out of that unconditional love, gave up his life for mankind, What have these spirits done for mankind to showcase these love, as love is not complete without giving to the other person what that person cant give to himself?

The Bible says that satan Transforms(disguises, masquarades, pretends, mimicks, Masks, Camouflages, cloaks) himself into an angel of light.

Why does he do this?
1. To deceive
2. To mislead
3. To lie
4. Misdirct people.

If satan preaches unconditional love, what has satan given to humanity to express this kind of love.


You know? I would have really loved for you to present this discourse to Mr Ali Sina. Can you do that? If you do can you let me know?

That is someone who knows better.

lordnicklaus:
Lols! Have u eaten the beans and egg? Have you ever farted so badly before? Eating this type of food will give u runny tummy and bad farts. Can u handle it? Have u had an experience with farting badly?
Cc Anas09

Aw thats disgusting. My tummy is running already

justlove91:
Am happy you also agree that mediumship is real.
As to what these entities are and how much we can trust there words, I also believe in testing/trying the spirit but in my case unlike the author using Biblical doctrines I test these spirits using the yardstick of LOVE.
To me that's all that really matters, the more loving there message is, the more I agree with it. I have read MANY of there messages and am satisfied that most of them are consistent with love and the only thing they preach is LOVE and am fine with that.
I don't believe an evil spirit or demon will always emphasise love as there message. These entities tell us that what matters in the end is not what you belief but how you live your life, how much love you show and express to others.
As my moniker reads am all for love not belief or doctrine and if any message should satisfy that, am OK with it, and the reason I was interested in there teachings in the first place is not because it is claimed to be from the dead but because there teachings are in perfect harmony with love.
For you as a Christian, this my yardstick of love may not be enough for you, you may need them to also support your doctrine but I don't need that.
The measure of someone spiritual maturity to me is how much love they can and encourage others to express and since there entities are able to do that am fine with them and wouldn't for anything label them demons and if you still maintain that they're demons then I really don't mind to be possessed by these lovely "demons."

If love is your measuring tool then you can get decieved, because theres no organizarion that doesnt love his own or preach love for his own.

Anyways, am a Christian as you already know, that said, i cant trust demons.

lordnicklaus:
Lolzz! You are one hilarious lady. I would advise it should be the rotten egg type of fart or which would you prefer?

I will definitely go with the rotten egg type.
Egg and beans is the recipe right? I will get back to you on that.

justlove91:
Maybe I was the one that "introduced" you to Ali sina because I once created a thread about the conversation of Ali Sina from Islam.
That being said, I read the chapter 13 (TRYING THE SPIRIT) of the book now and the points I can get from the book are:
1. The author is a Christian.
2. The author agreed that manifestations actually happen in seances based on the positive reports of investigators.
3.The author believed that communication with the dead is not supported by the Bible, that God doesn't allow it.
4. He believed the manifesting spirits are devils misleading people because the messages these spirits often preach do not often agree with the Bible. He argued that if the spirits are not demons there messages will always support the Bible messages of salvation only by Jesus Christ, eternal hell etc.
I think the point to be noted is that the author also agreed that manifestations occur in Seances. His interpretation of the beings or who they are is accordingly to his own point of view, and like I said he labelled then demons simply because there teachings contradict his religious beliefs.

100% correct.
I didnt argue that those manifestations are fake, no. They are real, but they are demonic familiar spirits, so if you are intrigued by them, be careful.
When a demon takes over a host, its difficult for it to relinquish that host.

If i remember your Moniker, you were the guy who introduce me to Ali Sina, Yea? Pardon me if am wrong.

Back to biz. Let me recommend this book for you. It will help you understand Mediumship and how it works better. Thank me latter.

"The Challenging Counterfeit" by Raphael Gasson.

ColdHardTruth:
on the contrary, I don't believe anyone or disbelieve anyone based on his/her religious affiliation

I just like filtering the insults out of conversations while getting messages the other person is trying to pass

Now let me tell you why is crying foul, he knows i cant retrieve the thread he made that comment, but not to worry, will mention you when i get it.
You dont know him, i do.

I'll emind you today, someday soon.

ColdHardTruth:
nah, you don't need to reply him with insults, just answer the below



this is his basis of calling you a liar

You seem to believe a Muslim. I dont ve his time.

WORDWORLD:
YOU BLATANT LIAR WITHOUT AN ATOM OF SHAME ACCUSSING SOMEBODY ELSE OF BEING A LIAR. WHERE IS THE PROVE I ASKED YOU TO SHOW TO THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD THAT I EVER HAD A CONVERSATION WITH YOU AND WHICH I DECLARED MYSELY AN ATHEIST.

YOU ARE SO REMOTE FROM THE CONCEPTION OF THE REALITIES IN OUR WORLD THAT YOU CAN OF ALL PEOPLE CALL SOMEONE A LIAR.

"ITS TOO BAD THAT STUPIDITY IS NOT PAINFUL.

BLATANT LIAR.

HARDMIRROR HAS OPEN A THREAD, INSTEAD OF COMING UP WITH SENSIBLE COUNTERS YOU ALL COME HERE WITH YOUR LAZY FLIM FLAM INTELLECTUALISM. WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF THE BRAIN IN YOUR SKULLS. IS IT FOR GREASING YOUR SKULLS? OR LIKE A CREAM FOR GARNISHING VEGETABLES CALLED SALAD CREAM.


ABEG BLATANT LIAR GO SIT DOWN ONE PLACE.

And am suppose to stoop and respond to you right? No, sorry, my attention is not that cheap. Now look down there you'd see a group of lowlives, you'd mix up just fine there. Now move.

greggng:
Go for procurement officer 11 is a grade level 8. I hate it when people don't take the pain to read through advert b4 asking question. If u open the position I stated, you will see that it requires degree or its equivalent. Equivalent of degree is hnd. In use is called associate degree. The requires mention social sciences with other courses. Ur accounting falls into social sciences. Again when u read the job requirement from up to down u will see no experience required. On the job training will be given. I am saying all this cos someone who had OND was asking if he can applied and I gave him my kind advice and he insulted me. Any graduate who does pay attention to details is not worthy to be called one

Sir, i have not been able to register an account oo. I keep receiving "reCAPCHA is missing. I dont know what that means. Pls assist.
Thank you.

Ranchhoddas:
Chapter and verse.

I have dropped just two, but there are still many more.

Ranchhoddas:
What are they? Are they responsible for those memories. If yes how do you know this?

Lets start my using common sense.

The word "Familia" explains itself.

Spirts are invisible and undetectable but ever present beings. They live for ever.

Mirriam Webster Dictionary defines familia spirits as demon that serves or prompts an individual.


Its a household demon which gives an individual information past or present.

A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus:20:27

So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the LORD, even against the word of the LORD, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it;
1 Chronicles:10:13

And we know that every family line has spirits attached to them. If they serve God, they have Angels of God attached to them, if the serve satan they have demons attached to them.

When a host (an individual) dies, the spirit possessing him leaves and possess another member of that family and on and on it goes.
When the spirits possesses a man, ofcourse, it knows all the activities performed by that man, and wen it possesses another, it projects the memories of the last host to the new host for the purpose of control.

Witches and Wizards work with familia spirits, Native doctors and false prophets work with them.

Mediums work them. Soothsayers or forrune tellers work with them.

Nochromansers work with them.

So many atheists here are possessed by them.


Satan wants to hide perpertually under disguizes. He has many forms and tactics of hiding.

To some, he tells them hell is the most magnificient place, anyone who misses it, misses all.

To some he tells them, theres nothing like hellfire, wen u die, you stay dead.

To some, he tells them, there's nothing like death, it just a circle, you just keep coming back until you reach perfection.

To some, he tells them there's nothing like satan, God or even spirits.

All of these have the same motive, Keep man from thinking of meeting his creator.


The Bible warns us agaisnt consulting Familia spirits.

Household demons that knows everthing about the family tree. These are the demons working with those who believe in reincarnation.

Ranchhoddas:
You know this how?

because i know what the sxriptures says about that.

Gboyee4fun:
lol, study your scripture well, I'm not here to argue on scripture. check peter as example, immediately the spirit of God spoke in him concerning christ as the son of God.. ….Satan also speak through him.....as I said, please I don't want to argue on the word of God....the scripture is there for us to learn so that we will really know if we are still of the Faith.

But i quoted from the word of God too nah. I didnt mention Peter. You mentioned Balaam as being in the same category with those who started with God, then i said, Balaam never started with God, which is true.

Ranchhoddas:
You misunderstand me. He believes in reincarnation. He believes he has lived before and he has memories of his past-lives. Do you think he is lying?

Yes and No.

Yes, he is lying ignorantly not knowing he is possessed with a demon who has attached himself to his family from generations and keeps manifesting.

And, No, he personally has not lived before. Is the lie of satan.

Gboyee4fun:
thanks!! but most of them are attention seeker, the more we give them attention, the more they prolong matter with their so call find out...we should remember that Christ Himself have problem with Sadducees and Pharisees of those days...they believed in wrong knowledge but they won't want to accept...how can someone that called himself pastor before, he speaks in tongues, he heals wake up one day and says there is no God because he discovered something....if God cannot fool the so called wise in their wisdom that means He is not God.

in one way or the other everybody, are trying to seek God, the Muslims are trying, even the traditional worshipper are trying to seek God...

what knowledge does any atheist has that he won't later die with it.....I just don't want us to be prolonging matters with them, so that they won't be feeling somehow.

Like the brother said, they are not our target.

With all the Phariseess and Sadducees present at every gathering, Christ never stopped teaching. They went about with him, just like the athieats are following us around here, He multiplied food in their presence, they ate. He healed their friends and relatives, he cast out demons from their Children, cleansed their lepers, yet they taunted Him. But, he finished his work.

We will do our best here for as many as satan has targetted to throw off the wagon of Faith.

Shalom brother.

Ranchhoddas:
Different descriptions of hell right? There are other stories of people that died and came back with non-hell stories. Just yesterday on this forum, someone was saying that he has vivid memories of his past lives. Do you think he's telling the truth?

Having vivid memories of past lives? Have you ever heard of Familia Spirits?

Gboyee4fun:
please we Christian should stop disturbing ourtself with these atheists especially those of faith before that turned back, the bible is completed, we have so many personalities that started with God and end up with their thinking....check Balam, King Saul, they are all there for us to learn. and let everyone know that whatever your view about God is, it can't change the fact that He is God...…it is so easy to err in knowledge once you are full of yourself.....

what I have learnt so far is that if you are not constantly get revelations, you might be easily discourage....and not everybody will be able to uphold the faith till the end..even among the early believers, many turned back only those that understand the deep things of the spirit will hold on to the Book of life.

Solomon in all his wisdom at the end seeth life as vanity, but life is not vanity, if its vanity, christ will not come for vain things and God Himself will not create things for vain....that's why Christ is greater than Solomon.....
so anybody can conclude his or her Christian life as he or she wanted, life goes on and Christianity will never cease to exist.

Balam never started with God. He was a soothsayer all through.

Balaam also the son of Beor, the soothsayer, did the children of Israel slay with the sword among them that were slain by them.
Joshua:13:22

Balak could not have hired a prophet of God to come ans curse the people of God. There weren't even prophets yet as at then.

And no prophet of God will give the kind of counsel Balaam gave King Balak against the People of God.

Balaam knew the spiritual devastating effect on sexual immorality. For him not to go home empty handed since he was not permitted to curse the Israelites, he gave counsel for young succulent girls be sent into the Camp of the sex starved, sun baked, hungry and thirsty Israelites. Knowing, sexual sin will open up portals for satan legally. When a man willingly sins, God withdraws.

And it worked. There was a sex orgy, and in one day 24 thousand men died.

No prophet of God will do that.


The only reason God previaled over him was because God is Soveiregn over His creation/creatures.

No man can resist His will, Thwart is His purpose or defeat his counsel.

[quote author=Image123 post=49602690]Hehehe, you'll like watching film a lot. What do you need names for, what you need is the Spirit of God and attention.[/quote

The thing tire me no be small.

flamingREED:
Not until you or those who have read your long epistle come up with the testimony of your conversion, you remain an angel of light.

And those who truly are discerning know that you were never a Christian.

Working Signs and wonders is not a proof that one was or is a Christian.

Until I know the testimony of your conversion,
You're not ready for a serious debate.

And I'm, by God's grace, one more than fit to take you on and pin your logic to the ground.


God's swordsman

Pls dont take that character seriously.

When everything else fails, what remains is the word of God. Anyone who cliams to be a Christian without the Word is like Smoke before the wind.

This charlatan got angry at God because God wont change his words and stop the persecusion agaisnt the Church. Can you just imagine? Prophecies that spans both the Old and New Testament, yet this man here didnt know about them. What kind of a pastor was he?

What was he teaching his flock?

Pls i need HELP HERE. What is reCAPCHA?
I keep getting reCAPCHA is missing. Am trying to register an account. Thanks for helping.

paulGrundy:
Have you ever argued with JW's before? See how they twist the scriptures and peoples word? It's very similar to how he replies your quotes



Its very simple! He is a JW and a very big leader in their society who sees the truths in jwfacts.com as a threat to their pay check and their decling population. Take note of these things:

1. Nigeria has the 2nd largest population of Jehovahs witnesses and the 3rd highest number of publishers
In the world.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/ministry/how-many-jehovahs-witnesses-2014/

2. Over 86 million nigerians have access to the internet, including popular forums like nairaland.

http://www.internetlivestats.com/internet-users/nigeria/


It only makes sense that the officials of watchtower head quaters brooklyn USA, would want to use an existing Nairaland monicker named BERNIMORE who is also their official, to black mail me into silence.

In a market setting firms fight tooth and nail, dirty to protect markets with one of their highest customer base, or their biggest clients cos their profit margins could be significantly reduced if customers stop doing business with them.

All the criticisms in www.jwfacts.com are accurate, if not, I would have been sued for libel.

paulGrundy:
As a member of living faith, you get angry when people criticize your pastor isn't it?

Does it make sense that a non-member of living faith get angry whenever oyedepo is criticised?

No

The same way it does not make sense for a non-jw to get angry when the JW organization Is criticised. Its only JW's who would be pained by the criticisms in jwfacts.com.

The fact that he is denying being a JW and deleted his religious section threads in support of JW doctrines, shows that he has a very important identity he is trying to hide,

Do you get my point?

Yea i do.

BERNIMOORE:
my intense attack? he is not your friend yet You are more concerned
And you ask me to drop the issue in my own thread not his thread.

do you need a paracetamol for paulgrundy/yooguyz a non living faith palaver?


paulgrundy just ask you why you are actually taking panadol for his own headache, does it make sense defending someone not 'a member of living faith and you are very fury to stop such person' pls answer!
your eye go clear soon!

Lolzz. You are such a good word twister. What you are trying to make his words mean is not what he means.

My God this guy.

Why are you so pained nah. Why are you taking para for Jw headache?

BERNIMOORE:
i was thinking that you will be fair. Anyway my post is for objective minded,and too big for you! pls mind your words here or just ignore me! because it does not make sense for a living faith member to be pained about an 'issue concerning non living faith member' Shikenan

You opened your teeth becos you know how lame what u said sounds. Am a Chriatian first before being a living faith member. And every true Christian is a soldier irrespective of the denomination. If i see a distress Human being regardless of his creed, whether a Christian or a muslim, i will move in to help first.

Just imagine what you just said. I can't believe you said this. This explains alot about JW. So because am not a JW, you wont lift a finger to help me wen i need it? This really saddens me.

So i should walk away when you are obvuously malicious against PaulGrundy? By the way, what is your interest in this matter? Didnt yiu say you are not JW?
All the animosity is for what?

Listen, if he was the one guaging out this bitter animosity against you for no apparent reason, what am saying to you is what i will say to him. CHILL.

BERNIMOORE:
Yes He Admit it was an issue that he is facing in real life! It seems he is your friend and you have made up your mind defending him, but be carefull! he actually opened a Thread to brainwash others who seem to be gay and remain christian and remained a pastor shepherding attitude condemed even On Nairaland

https://www.nairaland.com/1439402/christians-chatbox Read a thread he not only Admitt Gay as his issue but also Norturing others!



It Was Because of tthis your friend that Nairaland Added rule9
9. Don't use Nairaland for illegal acts, e.g scams, plagiarism, hacking, gay meetings, incitement, promoting secession

Nothing wrong with that since NL allows it. and get me right 'proving the two monikers convincinly' is 'only to show that he is the same 'pastor that accomodate and sell the Gay Orientation to others like a virus'

May be you dont follow him, Whenever he is posting anything Jw, he often tag me just because he never accepted my cousel that he should stop spreading that Gay belief to others,infact he told other thread users that i am Dead in one instance. Example again was in april this year, someome reminded him why he invites me to a thread which was eventually left him frustrated.

https://www.nairaland.com/2273569/went-jehovah-witness-church/5


As you can see, its Not personal! Cheers

He is not my friend. He is here in NL just like you. What got my attention is your intense attack on him.
He said he is not Yooguys and he is not gay.
Leave it alone.

Am a memeber of Living Faith. People say all manner of things against my Paator here, i have not blackmailed anyone into silence.

What you are doing is not nice. As you said, its not personal, then drop it. After all you said you are not Jw.