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OkCornel:
Hate is too strong a word to associate me with.


Why do you say I hate word of faith preachers?

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Your Heading is misleading.
That woman is on her own, if she's doing that because she's an Evangelical, then she is misinformed. A school is a formal institution not a church.

I know a Deeper Life proprietress who employs everybody. Only, females are not allowed to wear trousers. They plait their attachment, wear weavons, earings and use make ups but mildly.

If you dey craze, you fit craze but inside school, maintain.

MuttleyLaff:
You gossip my hiding behind using Muttl.eyLaff, so I don't get notification that I've being talked behind my back

Not all forms of homosexuality is a sex part of the beast, whatever that means, nor is it or has it anything to do with idolatry, promiscuousity or ritual worship act.

It says Sex Pattern, not sex Part.

Again. I say it. Homosexuality is a sex pattern for the Kingdom of Satan.
If Man having sex with a man can not produce an offspring to continue the human race, then know that an opposer is involved.

Let one poster here said, everything God does, satan opposes.

God says Man and women, satan says man and man.
How can a Christian even conceive to preach homosexuality?

W.T.H went wrong? Oh my God!!!!!

tartar9:
Stupid country,they will forever remain a jewish institution.

So say the drunk on Camel piss.

If anyone fights Terrorism is a Jewish puppet. Look at your life and your surroundings and look at the Jewish's

Where is alBHAGDADI? I know he hates the Word Faith preachers. Where is OKcornel? Him too hates Word of Faith preachers.
Come over here let's look into the scriptures and see the evil in the Children of God owning and enjoying was originally created for them.

Blackfire:
Remind me not to be your 'enemy'

I don't have enemies. And, this is the truth. No one is worth pulling me to hellfire. No matter what anyone does, I forgive them. Make dem carry go abeg.

Blackfire:
Kedu ka emere

Bawo ni

Comments ca va


Ni hao

And in English, I am going fine.

OLAADEGBU:
Do you really know the preachers you posted in the OP?

Outside of TB. Joshua, I know the rest because I have listened to their sermons and read their books.

Pls get to the point.

TVSA:
Oyedepo isn't the richest pastor in the world. Kenneth Copeland is 5 times richer than him

I know that dear.

CodeTemplar:
Deuteronomy 28:2
And all these blessings shall come upon thee and overtake thee, if thou shall harken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.

Verses 3-13 then highlights these blessings that shall come upon thee, if thou shall harken unto the voice of the LORD thy God. So wealth is part of our benefits as 'Israelites'.

Prosperity isn't about wealth alone. It covers your ways, health, and soul.

Yes. That's why I opened this thread so that people who hate on the Evangelical pastors will come out to tell me if God is indeed against His Children enjoying what He created for them.

CodeTemplar:
The first bold part is extremely laughable. Jet usage is a function of economics and scale. Taking Winners Chapel for example, They do enough travel that covers routes with low air traffic and the work of God or spread of gospel would be severely impeded if they decide to be spending their limited time joining commercial airlines. If analysed well, it is cheaper to own a jet that can carry 30 at a time than for top winners pastors to be buying tickets.


As for the other bold part, show me the exact pastors who chase wealth cos I think very few on that list do.
Asking mega church pastors not to fly jets is kije asking Buhari to do away with our national fleet because many poor Nigerians exist. He can't take commercial flights to Europe for sake of poor people he is serving.

He has ran out of steam already. He won't answer you.

Most of these people form their opinions based on what people like Freeze say in the internet, if you really inquire as to what they personally know about these pastors, you'd discover they know little.

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying that you don't know Sunday Adelaja of Ukraine?

I know about him, but can't speak about him.

Why did you ask if he were God sent? How do you know who is God sent away?

MuttleyLaff:
... and you started your comeback with gossip and backbiting a moG, erhn?

"Most interlocutors, so far, commenting on this thread have never disappointed me. They have been very at playing the mediocrity card, which is ignoring the big elephants in the room, I introduced them to on the thread, but then ignored the elephants, pretended they are not there and then be discussing the ants or playing the hot potato game, tossing it about and dancing pangolo even before the music begins and dance starts."
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:09am On Jul 02

"Don't mind if I am blind or not, if Lot knew it was an abomination men sexing men, then please OkCornel, what was the reason he gave for denying and refusing the men of Sodom and Gomorrah have sex with these two other "men" hmmm?
Dance around the question and the earlier other two for as long as you want. Notice how openmine, has left you, all by yourself, to deal with the question. He has dropped it like it's too hot for him. Scaredy cat. I thought you guys said you had time for me today. I told youse, I'll knock your heads together"
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 2:08pm On Jun 25

"I have stuff, that if I should drop it on these guys, their legs will buckle and they fall flat on their arse from the sheer weight of it. I havent typed anything substantial yet and they already are each and everytime be screaming blue murder. The trio, TV01, Shepherd00 and openmine, just make me all the time, literally be laughing out loud, watching them go schtum or dropping facts I introduce, as if it's like I've asked them to hold on to a hot potato, even diving under the sofa, to hide from the big fat lie elephants in the room I introduce to them."
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 4:24pm On Jun 24

"I tell you what, I'll tell you what I love and dont love. I admire this kind of spirit that scrutinizes and most especially when done under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Mediocrity for me partly, is ignoring the big fat lie elephant in the room, pretending its not there and then be discussing the ants or playing the hot potato game, tossing it about, even before the music begins."
- Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 1:52pm On Jun 23

I know and understand you Anas09, like a well read book, that is why I consciously sent you no invite to this thread. The above inverted commas says it all, but I am yet to know the name of this special school yall have attended that teaches to perfection this art of dropping the hot potato and playing the hot potato game

Hmmm. Bros. How do one gossip in an open thread where what is typed can be seen and read by all?

How ever you see it sir, it won't change anything. And I'm glad you know me as a well read book that I'd rather a knife be laid on my neck than for me to stand for anything that hints AntiChrist.

Homosexuality is the sex pattern of the Beast System.

MrPresident1:
The Bible says all the abominable people will have their part in the second death. Abomination is being promoted and it entered over 40pages

Extremely dirty. I did not deign to comment on that extremely filthy, extremely dirty, extremely abominable thread.

Extremely dirty thread it is to say the least.

MuttleyLaff:
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. Fear, is false evidence appearing real. Understanding dissoves fear. To understand your fear, is the beginning of really seeing. To escape fear, you need to go through it and not around it. Whenever you're afraid. It is a sure sign, that you have allowed your mind to miscreate. Anas09, the fear of facing your fears is harder to overcome than the fear itself.

Sister you are hollering "nyem space" but you do know that, I sent others invites to this thread, but not to you sister. I passed you over because I know you'd be incurious, now tell me, why did you have to come on the thread nau.

because, I only just got access into NL today.

Dropping the thread like it's hot.

Blackfire:
Still serving it hot as ever......

Leopard no dey fit change him spots nah.

How have you been Mr Black?

MrPresident1:
Yes o, it has tayed well well. How have you been, trust you have been fine and well. All kinds of people have taken over NL: Zombies, satanists, shell monikers etc, they are the majority now commenting, all level headed and intelligent people have left the forum.

Do you see someone you call a Christian with his obnoxious homosexuality promoting, satan glorifying, and abominable abomination thread? Na them full here now, and we will not relent in showing them their future!

The evil mountain spreading spiritual, physical, and mental refuse all over the world will be burnt completely, this is the word of the LORD.

No small tin o. Everybody don just commot leave this place empty.

And about Homosexuality, my blood run cold for weytin my eyes dey read there.

Do you know that those who will usher in the reign of the AntiChrist will be those we termed brethren?
You didn't do.much to term that tide, why nah? Just few guys did all the tackling.

Once again, I see why the Lord said, put not your trust in man, for the arm of flesh will fail you.

If sombori bin tell me say Muttl.eyLaff go preach homosexuality as strong as he is doing now, I for spit for him face, true. Choi

Africa was termed "The Dark Continent". We were called Barbarians. When anyone wants to epitomizes poverty and backwardness, it's Africa they picture.

We were called Lazy in all things. But, today, the African Children are waking up based on their discovery from the scriptures that they are sleeping giants. They are getting the understanding that treasures lie unharnessed within them.
They are gathering the wisdom of God, the divine secrets of God and are synerging them together and are doing exploits.

The name of Africa is now being heard, yet it's still the Children of Africa who wld rise up to cast her down.

Why do you let satan use you so.

Can you through scriptures proof to me that God created wealth for satan and not for his Children?

Watch it, the giants arising from the African Churches, Oyedepo, Adeboye, T.B Joshua, David Ibieyomieh, Chris Oyakhilome and the rest, will be a scratch in the surface.

The world shall grow dark, and the people of the world, darker. But, watch the New Covenant practitioners and see.

We shall employ you guys, we shall have the answers.

It's Africa's turn.

UceeGod:
I can see from you're having it difficult comprehending my posts, so thus argument isn't yielding much.

Oga, dey tin hook you for neck. Dey grammar wey I dey use no be big grammar.

Just answer my simple questions.

Make I speak for pigin?
This Tori wey you dey to say Evangelical preachers dey Na so so moni, I dey ask you say, you sure say Na true you dey tok?
because for Winners Chapel wey me I dey and I Also know say Christ Embassy too dey do, no be onli money dem dey preach o.

Like dis Mont so, no be moni tok at all.

Na weytin piple tok you hia or Na weytin you you know for ya sef?
No lie o.

UceeGod:
As a Christian leader, when your lifestyle is mostly about money, the messages you preach are mostly about getting wealthy, then you are worshipping Mammon. You can't be truly seeking God and Mammon at the same time, that's not the Christian way.

Do you even know what Christ means by 'You can't serve God and Mammon?'

You guys just pull up Scriptures wirhout understanding what they really mean.

Did God create Gold and Silver for satan and his agents?

If Adam had not fallen, will people using what God has freely given to them be termed sinful?

Who started telling Christians to shun worldly goods?

What did Jesus say? Between loving and serving Money (making money the object of your attention, stealing and cheating to get it. Manipulating people to get it, and can kill to get it) and working hard to get it, which is sin?

MrPresident1:
Buda for eartum how you dey now?

MrPresident1. I greet o. It have stay. Ya bodi no?

UceeGod:
As a Christian leader, when your lifestyle is mostly about money, the messages you preach are mostly about getting wealthy, then you are worshipping Mammon. You can't be truly seeking God and Mammon at the same time, that's not the Christian way.

Is this what you perceive or this is true? You know that as a Christian you shd not lie abi? Have you followed these men and can sincerely say all the preach is wealth?

because, this month of July in Living Faith is all about the Supernatural. The Supernatural Workings of God in the lives of men. It's not about prosperity.

Could you be lying? As far as Living Faith is concerned Prosperity is preached in the month of prosperity, not in the Month of Wisdom or Praise, or Prayer, or Salvation, or the Holy Spirit, or Faith or Baptism. How did you come by this your postulations? Again Are you lying?

Blackfire:
Una well-done o

Ooo. You welcome o

UceeGod:
I think you should reread my post so you can understand properly and I think you're the one being emotional here.

You don't seem to know what emotions are.
By emotions, I mean presenting what you feel instead of Biblical variables. What does the Bible say? If it's unscriptural for believers to own Earthly material things, give reasons.

UceeGod:
As I posted earlier, there's absolutely nothing wrong with God’s people being wealthy but it's unChristlike to continually emphasize on acquiring material possessions and flying private jets AS A CHRISTIAN LEADER.

Your views are conflicting here. Nothing wrong with believers being wealthy, but it is Unchrislike to preach about what is absolutely right abi?

If you say there's nothing wrong with Christians having wealth, why then do you find it wrong for pastors to preach it?

And, I asked you if you have followed these preachers and you can godly say that all they preach is material wealth?

Can you?
As far as you are concerned, Satanists can own Jets but not Christian leaders?

Did satan create any of these things?

UceeGod:
At the same time I'm not saying a Christian must be perpetually poor financially to be like Christ even though we all pass through financial difficulties - it's unavoidably part of the Christian life if we must grow in grace.

In other words, to grow in grace we do not need much money? Even if you service the Covenant adequately and from it get really blessed?

You have not told me if God created these things for satan and his People since the people of God do not really need them.

UceeGod:
Show me anywhere in the Bible that Jesus Christ preached about pursuing wealth, show me anywhere in the Bible where Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, etc prayed or worked so hard for the wealth they had. Showe me anywhere in the Bible where God blessed them with material wealth because of their hard work.

Outside of Solomon who inherited his father's throne and everything which came with it.
Abraham was a farmer, no one will have 318 foot soldiers excluding their wives and children just to keep them at home.

And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold. Genesis 13:2

And the LORD hath blessed my master (Abraham) greatly; and he is become great: and he hath given him flocks, and herds, and silver, and gold, and menservants, and maidservants, and camels, and asses.
Genesis 24:35

Isaac was a farmer like his Father.

The man (Isaac) became rich, and his wealth continued to grow until he became very wealthy.

He had so many flocks and herds and servants that the Philistines envied him.
Gen 26:13-14

In this way the man (Jacob) grew exceedingly prosperous and came to own large flocks, and maidservants and menservants, and camels and donkeys.
Gen 30:43.

Job 1:3 [b]His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she asses, and a very great household; so that this man was the greatest of all the men of the east.

Shd i go on?
These Testimonies are not the Testimonies of lazy men who sat down prayed and wealth fell on them. Maybe you shd try praying and receiving wirhout working.

Proverbs 12:24 The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute.

Proverbs 6:9-11 How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep?
Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:
So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.

2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

I can go on.

UceeGod:
My friend, true wealth from God doesn't come from your hard work but God's GRACE, WILL & SOVEREIGNTY. God may decide to bless your WORK with wealth but it has to be according to His divine purpose

You have said nothing here.

God wishes that all His Children may Prosper and be in health even as their souls prospers, but go and sit down, fold your arms and tell yourself that the Grace of God and his Sovereign Will pour the wealth on you and see if hunger won't kill you.

UceeGod:
Maybe you have any other explanations to that Bible passage apart from God giving you all you need when you truly pursue Him, I'll be glad to learn from you. Or do you mean to say pursuing money is part of seeking God?

What do you mean by pursuing money? And how does these pastors pursue money?

TrajansKong:
Why would you even think about it, Anus09? Indeed, how often do you think about it, amigo?? It must be very upsetting...

Often ke?
Me go Sidon begin think how men go dey hold demselves? Ahhhhhhhh. Satan is a lIar

MuttleyLaff:
Why do you have thoughts about it? Do you also think about men and women doing it together?

Brother pls. Let it go.

I can't stand it.

UceeGod:
I think you should reread my post so you can understand properly and I think you're the one being emotional here.
As I posted earlier, there's absolutely nothing wrong with God’s people being wealthy but it's unChristlike to continually emphasize on acquiring material possessions and flying private jets AS A CHRISTIAN LEADER. At the same time I'm not saying a Christian must be perpetually poor financially to be like Christ even though we all pass through financial difficulties - it's

unavoidably part of the Christian life if we must grow in grace.
Show me anywhere in the Bible that Jesus Christ preached about pursuing wealth, show me anywhere in the Bible where Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, etc prayed or worked so hard for the wealth they had. Showe me anywhere in the Bible where God blessed them with material wealth because of their hard work.
My friend, true wealth from God doesn't come from your hard work but God's GRACE, WILL & SOVEREIGNTY. God may decide to bless your WORK with wealth but it has to be according to His divine purpose

Do you know what Principles are? The Lord didn't need to preach that we shd pursue wealth, the principles have already been laid. Do this and get that.

Pls decode this scripture.

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and all other things shall be added into you.

What is the Kingdom of God?
How do you seek it
And what are the 'Other things' which will be added into you?

Do you need scriptures who h says diligence which is work (in this case Kingdom or Covenant Practice) is what brings wealth?

I need a scriptural discussion based on the Op, not discussion outside the Op.

Did God create these things?

If Yes, for who?

What is wrong with the People of God have wealth?

If the Patriarchs lived today, wld we regard them as materially minded and not true followers of God?

I'm itching to flood this thread with prosperity based scriptures.

Anyone?

JOSHUA5637:
Bishop Oyedepo is the 2nd richest Pastor in The world
Corpland is the Richest Thanks

So, is it wrong for them to have it?

jesusjnr:
Thanks bro you've said it all but I'd just like to add my Lil' bit.

Personally I think the greatest issue here is the idea that the life of a man consists in the abundance of possession he has, because that is very contrary to the teachings of Christ, and also promotes covetousness which was the premise upon which Jesus made this statement. luke 12:15

For as much as there were examples of rich men who walked with God, there are also examples of not just poor men, buy extremely poor men who walked at the highest level with God, such as Moses, Elijah, Elijah, John the Baptist etc.

That's why it is so wrong and misleading to use the criteria of material possessions to measure success in the church, for it is absolutely immaterial in the sight of God.

Pls treat the Op step by step.

OpenYourEyes1:
In my opinion, the pastors bank accounts and personal properties ( not church accounts or properties) determine how much they are worth

How does this answer my Op pls?