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Aaronsrod:
I too am alone and sickened in the presence of such discourse.

It is as if a man's eyes were gazing at my naked body. Upandan.

As if mine own eyes returned the gaze longingly only to summon his physical approach.

Then as I flounder, squirming in the grasp of his arms shoulders and chest, his manhoo..

O Lord God of Israel put this Devil behind me O!!

Behind me! Behind Me! He comes again! Aaaaargh!!

O Heavenly Father, spare me from this tormenting dreams.

This gay agenda is truly Satans work!

Oh God. My skin crawls even at the thought of it.

Rootsofsodomy:
Homosexuality is demonic possession and they are not in control the spirit is

I agree totally

MuttleyLaff:
Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it doesnt mean it gone away.

You cant let fear control you. While at first, some truths can be scary, there really is nothing to fear from truth. Being truthful is essential to being an independent thinker and obtaining greater understanding of what is right.

This verse has nothing whatsoever to do with two consensual adults, solely all their lives, enjoying and living a strictly monogamous faithful, committed, loyal, kind, caring, respectful, devoted and loving SSA romantic relationship and lifestyle, till death do them part, with no harm to anybody or anything, whether fellow human being, children or animals.

Now, I think you've realised why I never sent you an invite for the thread. Courage is knowing what not to make you hurry out of the thread. Fear comes from a lack of understanding. People fear what they dont understand. They judge what and who they dont understand. Fear, is a darkroom, where lots of negatives are developed. Fear, leads to the dark side, then to anger, at which anger leads to hate and ultimately from hate to suffering. FEAR, has two meanings: Forget Everything and Run or Face Everything and Rise. The choice is the individual's my dearest sister

I didn't even read this. There's nothing you'd say that wld make homosexuality acceptable by God.

Na Na Na Na. Pls.
I'm outa hia

UceeGod:
Yes, God will reward those who diligently seek Him but not necessarily with material wealth.

So you'd go against Job, Isaac, and the rest for having such stupendous wealth?

God neither said his reward will be material wealth only nau.

UceeGod:
God values our spiritual status more than our financial status. If you're seeking God just so that He can bless you with wealth, then you've missed the mark.

Have you really listened to either of these pastors preach? As in, have you followed them?
Example, Living Faith Church stands on 12 Pillars, and each month one if those pillars is preached and stressed, and all the scriptures that talks about it is used until light comes.

Do you think it's only Prosperity they preach?

UceeGod:
True Christianity is far more than what we have here on earth. If Christ was really concerned about His followers getting mega rich here on earth, He would have had so many chariots, horses, carmels, etc

Do they preach Mega riches? Have you listened to their messages and all you hear is riches?

UceeGod:
in His entourage but He lived an exemplary life - a SIMPLE LIFE even though He could afford anything He wanted.
Simply put, those pastors flying private jets in Nigeria are nothing like Christ.

All your submissions are emotional rather than scriptural based, so I wld let you go.

Thanks.

UceeGod:
No wonder most of these politicians and fraudsters are comfortable in these congregations.

You are going off OP, but I will still answer you.
Pls, which renown politician do you know as a Winners Member, or RCCG or Christ Embassy members? Be specific pls. Don't generalize.

UceeGod:
No wonder these " men of God" are seen frolicking with politicians. No wonder many young people from these congregations are involved in immorality.

Again. Off Op. Can you be specific pls?

This thread is not about the morality of anyone. Pls be focused. thanks.

UceeGod:
No wonder these "men of God" can't come out vehemently against the darkness ravaging the country including immoral TV shows like BBNAIJA, corruption, injustice, politician's raking in over 1/4 of our national budget. No wonder there are so many fraudulent pastors springing up everywhere.

Lolzzzzz. Pls get your mind into the right place. This country does not practice the theocratic system of Government. The men of God preach the gospel and the Gospel is not forced on people. Let him who have an ear hear what the Spirit says to the people.

UceeGod:
Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, etc didn't get rich by asking God for wealth or pursuing material possessions nor did they encourage people to run after material wealth as if that is what dominion over the earth is all about. They got so rich because it was God's will for them.

This doesn't make any sence. So, Abraham and his descendants didn't ask for wealth, but he gave them anyway, Oyedepo and his Contemporaries are asking God and are running after material wealth and God still gave them?

Sir, you don't ask and receive materia wealth, you work tirelessly for it.
If you think it's the other way round, sit down, do nothing but just ask, let's see how much you'd receive.

I hear that to be a staff working under Oyedepo, if you are not a Workaholic, you'd drop out if fatigue or run away. No lazy man can stick around him.

If you think he is prosperous by asking ask God for money, try doing it.
And, what is Dominion over the earth means?

UceeGod:
God will only give wealth as His grace and sovereignty permits not because you ask Him or because you did anything special.

You have no idea, and you are not addressing the Op.
Reading you I perceive you in tears typing this. Stop with the emotions.

UceeGod:
No right thinking genuine Christian blames Oyedepo, Adeboye, etc for being rich.

In other words, Prosperity is not a sin?

UceeGod:
But in a country where most people (including their congregations) can hardly afford to feed well and are spiritually depraved, these "men of God" flaunt their wealth and encourage pursuit of material possessions more than spiritual wellbeing.

@UceeGod: I'm still waiting for your detailed answer here
You raised many points here.
1. The state of the Country.
2. Poor state of the congregants.
3. The depravity of the congregants.
4. Flaunting of wealth by pastors
5. The encouragement of the pursuit of material wealth.

Let's take them one by one.

Pls, I need you to answer me, should a believer depend on the economy of the land in which he lives as his source or to look up to God as his source and sustainer?

Why are the congregants poor? Do you know that the Bible commands over and over again that people shd work with their hands so that they can have food to eat? Do you know that the Bible hates poverty?
Do you know that the Bible says a lazy man shd not be given food?
WHY THEN ARE THESE CONGRGANTS POOR? Whose fault? Pastors?

Or, wld you they don't go to church becos the are poor? Or shd'nt give offerings because they are poor?

Is there a society without the Poor?

Are the homeless people in America thus, because they go to church and give their offerings to pastors?

Pls, I wld like you to explain more what you mean by depravity.

How do these pastors flaunt their wealth?
Wld you they just collect offeings and tithe and travel to other lands and just squander it there like the prodigal son did?

Wld investing the tithes and offerings they collect from the people, in turn build schools, hospitals, and other things (in the case of oyedepo) mean flaunting wealth?

Is it possible to have money and be hidden?

And finally, this is my point, Why did God create material wealth?
Did He create material wealth to beautify the earth and not for men to use?

Is material wealth not for God's Children?

Is it a sin to have them?

Will you say Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Job, Solomon were all sinners for having material wealth?

budaatum:
Don't mind some people. God bless me they are unhappy, do they think God is a poor non-blessing dead God They must think God is a stone!

Welcome back 09. You've missed a lot!

Hello Budda, How have you been?

I always sit and wonder. Did God create God and Silver before or after the Fall?


What if Adam didn't sin?

Would believers enjoy Gods creation Without any criticisms?

Wld Gold and Silver be a sin for God's people to use?

Did Jehovah create the good things of the earth for nothing?

I really need people to tell me. I don tire with people shouting down on believers enjoying what God created.

OLAADEGBU:
Do you believe Sunday Adelaja is sent by God?

I don't really know him. Why?

MuttleyLaff:
Talk to me my dearest sister, tell me please, what do you find threatening with and what is wrong, evil and/bad, in two consensual adult solely all their lives, enjoying and living a strictly monogamous SSA relationship and lifestyle, with no harm to anybody or anything, whether fellow human being, children or animals, hmm?

Pls stop saying this? There's no amount intensity you'd mount on this that will make it right.

The scriptures cannot be broken. Any man, whether consensual or not, who have sex with another man has violated the injection, 'Thou shall not lie with a man as with a woman'. There is no condition or exception attached to it.

I have to hurry out of this thread. Being here alone makes my skin crawl.

jesusjnr:
Hi sis!

Where have you been all these while?

Hello Bros.
I lost my phone and couldn't log in with my new phone until today.

jesusjnr:
Sorry I had to drag your moniker into my exchanges with this satanist wannabe because of the comments you made in our respects.

I was actually talking about my bringing up a dead thread of yours in response to your actions then, for that was what I did to you which he was a witness of.

So hope that clears the matter up.

Okay.

jesusjnr:
Hope you're good though

Yeah. Awesome God is my Dad. How have you been yourself?

jesusjnr:
but just in case, i have not changed from my ways oh, in fact I've even taken it to the next level, so that you'd know.

Welcome back and God bless.

This really made me laf. I don't expect anything less.
We choose our paths, and we shall get to the destinations we picked to tread on.

Shalom.

Someone sent this to me and I decided to share here.

[b]RICHEST CHURCHES IN THE WORLD:

1- Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints- $67.0 billon

2- Catholic Church - $30 billion +

3- Catholic Church Australia- $20.9 billion

4- Catholic Church Germany- $25.0 billion

5-Church of England $7.8 billion

6-Opus Dei (part of the Catholic Church) Italy- $2.8 billon

7-Church of Scientology- $2.0 billon

``NOW OBSERVE THAT THERE IS NO.....

RCCG
Winners
Christ Embassy
Synagogue
*No Pentecostal church at all*.

RICHEST PASTORS IN THE WORLD:
1 Bishop Oyedepo - $150 Million
2 Bishop TD Jakes - $147 Million
3 Pastor Chris Oyakhilome - $50 Million
4 Pastor Benny Hinn - $42 Million
5 Pastor Adeboye - $39 Million
6 Pastor Creflo Dollar - $27 Million (He used to be #1)
7 Pastor Kenneth Copeland - $25 Million
8 Evangelist Billy Graham - $25 Million
9 Prophet TB Joshua - $10 Million
10 Pastor Joseph Prince - $5 Million

*Observe again that none of the 4 richest churches mentioned have their leaders on this list of the Richest Pastors.*

The Pope is not there.
The Arch Bishop of Canterbury is not there.
The Bishop of Opus Dei is not there.
The Director of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is not there.

```NOW OBSERVE AGAIN.```

*6* out of the *10 Richest Pastors* are *blacks* , with *their congregation being predominantly black* .

4 out of the 10 richest Pastors have their *churches in Nigeria, the poverty capital of the world, the 147th most corrupt nation of the world, the home to the second deadliest terrorist group, the most unsafe place to give birth to in the world.*

Observe as well that the Richest Churches are situated in

1- USA
2- Vatican City
3- England

These are amongst the safest, less corrupt and most prosperous Nations.

*What a Paradox!! Jesus Christ fed the multitude, but in Nigeria the multitude feed the Men of God and General Overseers.*[/b]


And here was my response;

[b]If the Catholic Church was ran by an individual, he wld be that rich.

If LDS was ran by an individual, he wld be that rich.

Living Faith, RCCG, Christ Embassy, and the Synagogue are ran by individuals and they are that rich.

I don't know what people want. When the Evangelical Christians hadn't understood Kingdom principles of Financial Prosperity, hence remained poor, we were called Church Rats, today we understand and are harnessing them and we are seeing what our inheritances are, and are reaping them, the world is shouting. Ole Ole...

I'll really like to have a scriptural discussion with anyone who believes it is wrong for Christian individuals to be financially prosperous.
I have loads of questions.

Questions likes, Is Jehovah against is Children prospering materially?

Did he create Gold and Silver?

Why did he create them?

Who did He create them for?

For his 'enemy', satan and his followers?

If Abraham were to be alive today, wld Oyedepo's wealth be equated to his?

If Isaac who was richer than a whole nation of Philistine were to be alive today, wld Adeboye's wealth be compared to his?

If Job were to be alive today, wld Kenneth Copeland's wealth be compared to his?

If David was alive today, wld Benny Hinn's wealth be compared to his?

If Solomon were alive today, wld all the wealth of all these men you mentioned put together be compared to?


What did Jehovah say He'd reward those who diligently seek him with?


Eyes have not seen, ears have not heard neither has it entered into the hearts of men what God has preserved for those who Love Him.

And Peter asked Jesus and said,

...Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.
And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
Mark 10:28-30.

God didn't create this earth for his enemies, everything on earth is for His Children. Only satan and his agents are against God's people prospering. They'd wish we remain poor so that we wld compromise our faith by doing his bidding. But, gone are those days.

These names you mentioned are the first generation Evangelical giants. The coming generations shall see far greater ttan Oyedepo, Adeboye, Kenneth Copeland and the rest.

Our enemies shall cry blood.

Let me hear your view.

Oh Lord my God! , What did I just read in this pages? MuttleyLaff did someone hack your account?
No, this is not the Christian I knew.

God pls pls pls. You stand for homosexuality this fierce?
With all the scriptures you were given here, yet you tired to blur them all. No nau Lord.

jesusjnr:
Lol! I thought you loved obanjes!

Anas is arguably my fiercest critic and opposition here, and you would have seen that at the same time that she acknowledged that, she was also discrediting me elsewhere, hence your comment that who resurrects a 2016 thread, after you saw what I did to her in response to her attacks.

But your annihilation by my spiritual clout is one she couldn't help but admit, cause she knows and enjoys an ass whopping when she sees one.

But this thumping is even much worse than that one.

What did you do to me Jesusjnr?

OpenYourEyes1:
People should be taught to send harmless wild animals back to where they came from (in the wild). This butchering of animals and posting the picture online is too barbaric and disrespectful.

Harmless but Wild Animals. hmmm A python which swallows people as food is a harmless animal?
The last i checked, the serpent is still man's enemy made from God.

budaatum:
It's almost a year now! Do you now understand why it is said that "by grace is one saved"?

It is indeed by Grace.

budaatum:
I often wonder why so called "Jesus in my life" people behave like "satan in their life" people, and rather than use the Jesus super power of 'turn the other cheek', they use the satan weakness of 'slap first really hard before the other lifts a hand'

I recently discovered that Christians , me included make light of The Word of God. We don't believe it. But only we knew what blessings comes with obedience to God's Words.
The spirit of pride makes us feel it's weakness not to slap back. We hardly know that He who slaps is actually the weak one.

budaatum:
Do they not like being [url=https:/ . /www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5&version=NKJV]blessed[/url] perhaps, or do they just know not what they do and should be taught?

They want to be blessed but meeting the requirements is where the problem lgiverThey want the gifts not the giver

budaatum:
We started it Anas. We do the evil then refuse to accept responsibility for our acts and blame some imaginary satan

Buda, Satan is not imaginary. Talking we doing and saying satan is imaginary, is like saying we do righteous acts, yet call Jesus imaginary.
The Master of evil acts is satan. Those things don't just happen without a propeller

budaatum:
. "Let your light shine", says the word. I put it to you that on here, everyone's light shines in their words, but some's shinning is actually darkness that glorifies satan. When I, buda, do not do that which is godly, I crucify God by doing that which is ungodly and when I crucify God I appoint satan to reign or at least try to.

True, true.

budaatum:
So, a prayer. Make us the salt of the earth so our light so shines that our works glorify the Father in heaven by the Grace of the Lord God Almighty.

Amen.
Thank you Buda.

Janosky:
* The word was with who? with himself?

I know that the questions are not directed to me, but i'm aChristian and this concerns me. So..

First, i think we shd determine what the Word or a Word is. You speak right? As in, you communicate in Speech. You make Verbal Speech sounds when you communicate. Do you or do not know that the speech sound you make are you? As in, your mind, your thought, decrement, Will, volition, your essence or reality.

Can your words or Verbal Speech sounds be something else other than you? Can you refer to the Words you speak as something or someone else?
For as a Man thinks in his heart, that is who he is

Prov.23:7.

This is what it means by 'The Word of God is with God'. Not aside of God. What is 'With', has to be contained in'.

Janosky:
*a) The word is God or (*b)the word was God, which one is in your Bible,a or b?

Get the context.The persona in John 1:1 says In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John:1:1
He is telling about what The Word was before the beginning of time. So, this was in the Past, you cannot use 'is' to speak of the past. So, yes, The Word (verbal speech sound made by Jehovah) was God even before the World began.

Janosky:
*** v18: "No man has seen God at anytime, " is "the word that same God "no man has seen at anytime?"

Yes. until The Word (Verbal Speech sound of Jehovah) was made Flesh and dwelled amongst us as a solid matter, walking and talking.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John:1:14
From Creation until Jesus, Jehovah's Words were but wind in the realm of men, but He made a receptacle and flowed into it and it became human and we saw it, Jesus, The Divine Human God.

Janosky:
**verse 1c ," the word was God" meaning "begotten God" in verse18?

Yes. Do you know the meaning of 'i am 'In' my father and my Father is 'In' me? And do you know what 'Begotten' means?
Let me beginning by explaining this using what we know.

A human Child is conceived in (as in, inside) a woman, but biologically that Child belongs to the man who planted his Seed into her. Just like a Seed of Corn in the belly of Mother Earth. The earth only carries, nurtures the Seed it was never her's.

The Soul and essence of every Child çomes from the father, the child takes the body, flesh and bones from the mother to enable him live and function in the material world.

This was how Jehovah poured Himself, His Essence, Life, Love and Light into a vessel (Mary), who gave Him a body and was born as human on earth. And the Holy Spirit shall overshadow you...

Janosky:
** Is Begotten God same as Almighty God?

Yes. That is why the begotten is Life and Light. He is the Giver of Life because He is Life itself. He bares all the attributes of the Almighty.
But unto the Son he saith, (Thy throne, O God), is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Hebrews:1:8
God is eternally existent. Jesus is eternally existent.
Jehovah is the Alpha and the Omega, Jesus is the Alpha and Omega. The Beginning and the End
Jesus is Almighty. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, [The mighty God], 'The everlasting Father', The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah:9:6

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Colossians:1:16
Jesus is omniscience. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
Hebrews:4:13

Jesus is Omnipresent. For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Matthew:18:20
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Matthew:28:20

Jesus is unchangeable. And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
Hebrews:1:12
.Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Hebrews:13:8
All the above are the attributes only YHWH shd posses, but Jesus possesses too.

Janosky:
Thank you in advance for responding

Oh, you are welcome.

budaatum:
Proverbs 24 Amplified Bible (AMP)
Precepts and Warnings
24 Do not be envious of evil men,
Nor desire to be with them;
2
For their minds plot violence,
And their lips talk of trouble [for the innocent].

3
Through [skillful and godly] wisdom a house [a life, a home, a family] is built,
And by understanding it is established [on a sound and good foundation],
4
And by knowledge its rooms are filled
With all precious and pleasant riches.

5
A wise man is strong,
And a man of knowledge strengthens his power;
6
For by wise guidance you can wage your war,
And in an abundance of [wise] counselors there is victory and safety.

7
Wisdom is too exalted for a [hardened, arrogant] [a]fool;
He does not open his mouth in the gate [where the city’s rulers sit in judgment].

8
He who plans to do evil
Will be called a schemer or deviser of evil.
9
The devising of folly is sin,
And the scoffer is repulsive to men.

10
If you are slack (careless) in the day of distress,
Your strength is limited.

11
Rescue those who are being taken away to death,
And those who stagger to the slaughter, Oh hold them back [from their doom]!
12
If you [claim ignorance and] say, “See, we did not know this,”
Does He not consider it who weighs and examines the hearts and their motives?
And does He not know it who guards your life and keeps your soul?
And will He not repay [you and] every man according to his works?

13
My son, eat honey, because it is good,
And the drippings of the honeycomb are sweet to your taste.
14
Know that [skillful and godly] wisdom is [so very good] for your life and soul;
If you find wisdom, then there will be a future and a reward,
And your hope and expectation will not be cut off.

15
Do not lie in wait, O wicked man, against the dwelling of the righteous;
Do not destroy his resting place;
16
For a righteous man falls seven times, and rises again,
But the wicked stumble in time of disaster and collapse.

17
Do not rejoice and gloat when your enemy falls,
And do not let your heart be glad [in self-righteousness] when he stumbles,
18
Or the Lord will see your gloating and be displeased,
And turn His anger away from your enemy.

19
Do not get upset because of evildoers,
Or be envious of the wicked,
20
For there will be no future for the evil man;
The lamp of the wicked will be put out.

21
My son, fear the Lord and the king;
And do not associate with those who are given to change [of allegiance, and are revolutionary],
22
For their tragedy will rise suddenly,
And who knows the punishment that both [the Lord and the king] will bring on the rebellious?

23
These also are sayings of the wise:
To show partiality in judgment is not good.
24
He who says to the wicked, “You are righteous,”
Peoples will curse him, nations will denounce him;
25
But to those [honorable judges] who rebuke the wicked, it will go well with them and they will find delight,
And a good blessing will come upon them.
26
He kisses the lips [and wins the hearts of people]
Who gives a right and straightforward answer.

27
Prepare your work outside
And get it ready for yourself in the field;
Afterward build your house and establish a home.

28
Do not be a witness against your [c]neighbor without cause,
And do not deceive with your lips [speak neither lies nor half-truths].
29
Do not say, “I will do to him as he has done to me;
I will pay the man back for his deed.”

30
[b]I went by the field of the lazy man,
And by the vineyard of the man lacking understanding and common sense;
31
And, behold, it was all overgrown with thorns,
And nettles were covering its surface,
And its stone wall was broken down.
32
When I saw, I considered it well;
I looked and received instruction.
33
“Yet a little sleep, a little slumber,
A little folding of the hands to rest [and daydream],”
34
Then your poverty will come as a robber,
And your want like an armed man.

@bolded. Let me try to comment on each verses as i understand them.

31...
I went by the field of the lazy man,
And by the vineyard of the man lacking understanding and common sense;
And, behold, it was all overgrown with thorns,
And nettles were covering its surface,
And its stone wall was broken down.

To me, a lazy man is a Christian who although had received the gospel of Christ, received salvation, but remains at that level. He depends on the Pastors or other believers to tell him what the Word says.
And, they can not live by it, because they are not surrendered.

They believe in Justifications by Faith alone, hence does no work to be transformed and renewed.

They believe hook, line, and sinker what their pastor says.

The pastor is the first and last authority. They cannot seek Christ for themselves. They pay for prayer with their Tithes and offerings of all kinds. They attend assemblies once a week. The call pastors over very little issues they could handle themselves.

Spiritual growth is an alien concept to them.

They'll never be caught telling another person abt Christ, because they wouldn't know what to say.

They lack knowledge of their Spiritual authority, hence remain under the grip of the adversary who plagues them day and night with afflictions, poverty, harasses them in their sleep whether sexually or with nightmares. Fear of death plagues them.

Prayer is punishment to them. They'd rather murmur and complain than pray.

They attack the methods of other servants of God believing that only their Pastor's methods are right.

They lack common sense to know that the same amount of blood which ransomed their pastors is the same which paid for the atonement of their sins, so have the same authority and power to dominate circumstances around them.

They won't reason that Jesus is available and accessible by all, Pope, Arch Pope, Bishop, Pastor or Pauper.

So, their fields are overgrown with weeds, thorns and thistles.

What are Weeds, thorns and thistles?

Spiritual Ignorance.
Neglect of the Holy Spirit.

Pride.
lust. of the eyes, flesh, and the pride of Life.
fear.
disobedience.
dissatisfaction.
murmurings and complaints.
rivalry.
strife.
jealousy.
greed.
covetousness.
Controlling.
unforgiveness which leads to malice= hatred= revenge=murder in their intentions and physically if they can ger away with it.

And its stone wall was broken down.

Stones and walls speaks of defence and security. They are so porose that satan can invade them at will with the above arrows and darts. They have no Spiritual security.

All of these are the results of their laziness.

A hard working Christians Finds out things for themselves. They seek the Lord by themselves and for themselves. They read, read, read and read.
They build their Faith, take authority and exercise over sin and sickness.
They do things based on knowledge. They know they are receptacles of Light, hence put darkness to flight.

They are not afraid of satan for they know where his power begins and ends.
They know Spiritual laws and boundaries and obey them.

They are alert and Spiritually sensitive. They seek growth and are prepared to go home at anytime.

budaatum:
Proverbs 25 Amplified Bible (AMP)
Similitudes, Instructions
25 These are also the proverbs of Solomon, which the men of Hezekiah king of Judah copied:

2
It is the glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.
3
As the heavens for height and the earth for depth,
So the hearts and minds of kings are [a]unsearchable.
4
Take away the dross from the silver,
And there comes out [the pure metal for] a vessel for the silversmith [to shape].
5
Take away the wicked from before the king,
And his throne will be established in righteousness.
6
Do not be boastfully ambitious and claim honor in the presence of the king,
And do not stand in the place of great men;
7
For it is better that it be said to you, “Come up here,”
Than for you to be placed lower in the presence of the prince,
Whom your eyes have seen.

8
Do not rush out to argue your case [before magistrates or judges];
Otherwise what will you do in the end [when your case is lost and]
When your neighbor (opponent) humiliates you?
9
Argue your case with your neighbor himself [before you go to court];
And do not reveal another’s secret,
10
Or he who hears it will shame you
And the rumor about you [and your action in court] will have no end.

11
Like apples of gold in settings of silver
Is a word spoken at the right time.
12
Like an earring of gold and an ornament of fine gold
Is a wise reprover to an ear that listens and learns.
13
Like the cold of snow [brought from the mountains] in the time of harvest,
So is a faithful messenger to those who send him;
For he refreshes the life of his masters.
14
Like clouds and wind without rain
Is a man who boasts falsely of gifts [he does not give].
15
By patience and a calm spirit a ruler may be persuaded,
And a soft and gentle tongue breaks the bone [of resistance].
16
Have you found [pleasure sweet like] honey? Eat only as much as you need,
Otherwise, being filled excessively, you vomit it.
17
Let your foot seldom be in your neighbor’s house,
Or he will become tired of you and hate you.
18
Like a club and a sword and a piercing arrow
Is a man who testifies falsely against his neighbor (acquaintance).
19
Like a broken tooth or an unsteady foot
Is confidence in an unfaithful man in time of trouble.
20
Like one who takes off a garment in cold weather, or like [a reactive, useless mixture of] vinegar on soda,
Is he who [thoughtlessly] sings [joyful] songs to a heavy heart.
21
If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat;
And if he is thirsty, give him water to drink;
22
For in doing so, you will [b]heap coals of fire upon his head,
And the Lord will reward you.

23
The north wind brings forth rain;
And a backbiting tongue, an angry countenance.
24
It is better to live in a corner of the housetop [on the flat roof, exposed to the weather]
Than in a house shared with a quarrelsome (contentious) woman.
25
Like cold water to a thirsty soul,
So is good news from a distant land.
26
Like a muddied fountain and a polluted spring
Is a righteous man who yields and compromises his integrity before the wicked.
27
It is not good to eat much honey,
Nor is it glorious to seek one’s own glory.
28
Like a city that is broken down and without walls [leaving it unprotected]
Is a man who has no self-control over his spirit [and sets himself up for trouble].

This verses If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat;
And if he is thirsty, give him water to drink;
. Agrees with the Lord's teachings But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Matthew:5:44

But i bits me where praying angry violent, prayers against fellow men came from and when it started in Christiandom. Who started it?

We are all taken by this web, but am breaking free.

Buda, don't you think it'll be good to add a lil comment after each post?

jesusjnr:
Tell me what's the use of a wicked Christian as the likes of you, who have proven yourselves useless this far to advancement of the work of God's kingdom in nairaland, for you as the pharisees would not enter inside your selves and yet you'd not let those who are entering to do so?

Even if I'm a tare as you allege, at least I have been used by God to different significant extents to convert atheists in nairaland back to Himself as you can clearly see, during my short spell here, so where are your own fruits, you that is not a tare?

It's never been about names but results and my results would always speak for me regardless of the name you call me, but maybe all you'd have is your useless title of being a christian, even though the results are dead, except when it's alive to keep away the sheep from the Master.

#hopelesswaiter

Cry all you may, my eyes aren't going off you. I'm watching you.

OLAADEGBU:
One of the reasons might be that the 'gatekeepers' are refusing to 'let the people go.'

Well, the gate keepers are obviously failing as they couldn't keep Jesus from appearing to the people.

jesusjnr:
You that is not a hypocrite, what do you have to show for your efforts here as mine here that is a hypocrite?

Maybe it's in God's interest that I remain a hypocrite according to you so as to keep converting atheists to Christ, instead of from Christ to atheism as the likes of you and anas09 should have a lot to testify about, spiritually dead and toothless Christians?

See below!

Just bare this in mind. Anas09 will be here to resurrect all your episodes here for the world to see that i saw through you when you were hiding as a Tare with Christian cloak.

Keep that in mind oh ye Tare.

OLAADEGBU:
May we all answer God's call on our lives, in Jesus' name.

Amen.

What amazes me is that, in this later days, the Lord chooses to reveal Himself in person to the Muslims more than He does to the Christians. I wonder if there's a reason for that.

jesusjnr:
Anas you again?

For how long do you intend to keep up with your blind and baseless judgments concerning me?

I thought you had gotten a change of heart with recent comments you had made concerning me to the satanists wannabe etc., that I was contemplating reaching out to you at least to acknowledge that I had noticed your efforts, and hence this?

Or haven't you yet seen enough to me already to this extent to know that i'm approved of God and hence the unprecedented results to this extent?

Or do you still think that a disguised atheist would be a vessel that God would use to be converting atheists back to himself as Michelle, and can you yet see the unusual extent of the Spirit in my own words?

You seem not to know that life doesn't begin in Nairaland, for the distinctive fruits you've seen here of me today as such, have been the product of what has long been sown and a foundation that has long been built before I ever graced this platform, and that it's only a confirmation of what I had already was and already had prior to that?

Such extent of fruits cannot be pretended, for what someone doesn't have, he doesn't have, no matter how he or she tries to feign it, and that's why I've been so confident that you'd chew your words concerning me as such because I knew that God Himself was with me, if not tell me how I could be able to display such extent of wisdom and confidence with respect to destroying the works of Satan here.

I mean you who have been in Nairaland for quite while now should have been able to observe the glaring difference my coming here has made in the religious section with respect to the hitherto domination of the section by satanists, so do you think that it could possibly be by coincidence?

For all satanists inclusive of those here work for Satan, so even before coming to Nairaland I already had Satan their master under control(who has appeared me severally before now to prove my such potency even before I had begun to test run it in Nairaland), so if their master himself has already hence shown himself to have no answers to my spiritual ammunition, how much more would those whose powers emanated from him?

See anas09 the reason I was really disappointed with you, was because I expected much more from you, hence my patience with you at the onset in spite of your provocations and attacks on my person, that someone here who saw you as an evil person because of your arrogant and insulting attitude here was wondering why I had remained patient with you in spite of such attacks from you?

But I told her that I knew that you were a righteous Christian hence that you would have a change of heart when I finished explaining myself to you.

But you seriously fell my hand anas09 when you kept up with your unwarranted attacks on my person in spite of my persistence with you.

And moreover I had followed you and was able to see the same extent of arrogance and vitriol of yours in full display to others such as some atheists here, and I was like "wait a minute, how did I ever arrive at such a judgment of anas09 in the first place?

And here you are ironically accusing me of pride, for if I was indeed proud as you say, then should we call your extent of arrogance?

For Michelle herself now confirmed with Jesus would tell you that if it were up to the likes of you here that she would yet remain an atheist up til date.

And even the buda who I made the comment you quoted to would tell you same, because if buda(who insisted on calling me jesus instead of jesusjnr because he/she said that I was as the named) is honest with buda, buda knows that buda would yet be an atheist had it not been for the integral role that I played in buda's own instance, for it's not by coincidence that it's just a few months after my coming here that it happened.

For in fact buda was the first person I was expecting such from and not Michelle, for buda was the first atheist to here to discern my exceptional spiritual value, and also the first to hint to me concerning the extent of atheism here even before I knew, and hence that it needed for me not to hide my pearls but to display them to all and sundry.

So anas09 why keep up with this unfounded position?

See let tell you the truth, in spite of the evidence to the contrary, I've seen somethings in you that shows that you have some serious potential and hence could be likewise, but the problem is that you're the one holding yourself back, and hence not allowing God to bring the best of Himself in you.

But as you must already have seen, me I don go oh, I dey literally operate at the level of the Spirit, for I can't afford to deprive the bridegroom of His bride as the likes of you are doing with the choices you've made to be and remain spiritually toothless or mediocre as have been confirmed by your fruits here thus far.

Anas09 if you choose to remain at the mediocre level you currently are, then suit yourself, but as for your advise concerning pride, you can keep for your own use, because i don't need it, for i did then i wouldn't have been able to crack the level of the Spirit where i'm currently at.

For pride is prohibited on this side.

Jesusjnr. You know a proud person by the manner he/she response to criticisms. You fight and accuse, insult anyone who criticise you.

God approves of you? And you'd know that by talking plenty right? Your own words betray you.

Here is a warning for you; Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.
1 Samuel:2:3

You are trying too hard to gain acceptance from men here, Only fakes does that. If you stand for God, you'd be humbled in the way you handle criticism. And you wouldn't care what anyone says abt you.

Just know that i will be here to call you out as a fake the day you put off the Christian cloak you now so proudly adorn yourself in. Don't forget. I missed Frosbel2, i won't miss you.

OLAADEGBU:
Muslim Man Pulled Underwater by Violent Tsunami Carried to Shore by 'Mighty' Man With 'Blood-Stained Hands'
By LEAH MARIEANN KLETT ( news@gospelherald.com ) Mar 06, 2017 11:20 AM EST

A Muslim man who once adhered to a strict interpretation of Islam embraced Christianity after a "mighty man" with "blood-stained hands" saved him from certain death - twice.

Al-Jamali, a former Muslim living in the Middle East, shared his miraculous story with Bibles for Mideast, an underground Christian ministry that distributes Bibles and conducts evangelism in Asia, South Africa and the Middle East.

In 2004, Al-Jamali visited Kanyakumari, the cape of South India, along with a close friend. While at the beach one day, tsunami waves, generated by by the massive magnitude 9.3 undersea earthquake off the coast of Banda Aceh, northern Sumatra, hit the shore.

"We saw them coming, but not thinking they would affect us on land, I made an effort to take photos," he recalled. "Within seconds the waves battered the shore, wiping out everything. Thousands of people died."

Al-Jamali and his friend were trapped in the waves, and the strong undercurrent pulled them under.

"Suddenly, I felt a strong and mighty man pick me up in his hands," he said. "I really felt like a baby being carried by its mother. I could see blood stains on the man's hands."

The man told him, "I am the resurrection and the life. Those who believe in me will live, even though they die; and those who live and believe in me will never die." He then carried Al-Jamali to the shore, completely unharmed. Unfortunately, his friend was never found.

"Hundreds of the bodies could not be identified," Al-Jamali recalled. "While I watched, government authorities gathered them all up, poured gasoline over them, and set them alight. Certainly my friend would have been among them. If God had not saved me, I too would have been burned."

Eleven years later on the same day, Al-Jamali, now back in the Middle East and married to two different women, was was driving his car along with one of his wives when he got in a terrible car accident. While his wife died from her injuries, Al-Jamali miraculously survived.

"But I felt the same thing I had back on the day of the tsunami," he said. "A strong, mighty man held me, carrying me like a baby in the arms of its mother. I saw the same blood stains on his hands and realized he was the same man who had rescued me from the tsunami."

That night in the hospital, the man who had saved him from both the tsunami and accident visited Al-Jamali.

"I was very happy to see him," he said. "I held his hands and asked him to sit beside me. He sat down and then said to me: 'For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.'"

The man revealed himself to be Jesus Christ - and asked Al-Jamali, "Do you believe me?"

"Yes Lord, I believe," he answered. "But what about my wife?"

"You need only one wife," Jesus responded. "Lead a life with her, and live for me." He then vanished.

Al-Jamali met with two pastors from Bibles for Mideast, who shared with him the truth of the Gospel. He began to secretly attend worship services at an underground house church and share his newfound faith his wife. While she refused to listen, even becoming angry and violent at times, Al-Jamali continued to pray for her.

"One day she slipped on the floor and broke her hip," he said. "She needed surgery, and afterwards, in severe pain, could only rest at home. Whenever I prayed silently over her, she felt some relief but when I stopped, the pain would return. Slowly though, she began to understand the power of prayer."

Eventually, she allowed Pastor Paul, a leader with Bibles for Mideast, to pray over her. Then, something amazing happened: "While Pastor Paul prayed, we all heard some breaking or joining sounds coming from her hip area, and she was totally healed!" Al-Jamali said. "We had a consultation with her doctor that same day, and since she no longer needed them, all the materials that had been surgically implanted to repair the broken hip were removed."

Today, Al-Jamali and his family worship at Assembly of Loving God, the church organized by Bibles for Mideast.

Bibles for Mideast continues its underground ministry of distributing Bibles in "highly restricted areas," some of which are very hostile to Christianity. These include Pakistan, Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states.

https://www.gospelherald.com/articles/69808/20170306/muslim-man-pulled-underwater-violent-tsunami-carried-shore-blood-stained.htm

For, to whom He fore knew, He predestinated. For them He predestinated, He called, and to those He called, He justified.

budaatum:
Two people under skirt. Only two. One say buda 'scratchy face'.

Disagreeing with a person is not "get back at you". Besides, you've done me no harm for me to get back at you. And not turning the other cheek is a go to hell sin.

Proud people do not allow a divergent opinion. See how he went ballistic on you for disagreeing with him. He had to try to smear you.

I saw through this guy from the start, and i will keep saying Jesusjnr is a TARE. HE SHALL BE UPROOTED OUT SOON.

jesusjnr:
What do you intend with this?

Not good if you ask me.

For someone that attacked Michelle that she was faking it, and also went to the person with that moniker and told her that nothing I said was worth the audience of any christian to which she agreed?

So you expected me to just keep silent and not expose his spiritual blindness as I did those other ones who attacked me the other day when you were with me?

Something that is already past and you are bringing it up again?

Maybe you are actually sending me a message buda, so don't expect me not to receive it.

Or maybe I should go back to similar things that had to do with you, dig them up and like them. Smh.

If your intention was to make a point to me, you have absolutely made none, except that is which is not for good!

Do you know that Pride is the first fruit of Evil Spirit? You can't run frantic around making all the noise actually making the uninformed people believe you are a Christian with all this pride.

First repent and deal with the spirit of pride before you can come preach Christ.
SMH.

Leis:
I just love reading your contribution, you really a knowledgeable person in the word, please open a trend and teach us about pride, I will be there.

Oh thanks for your encouraging words. I shall find time to open a thread on Pride.

I will be okay if you will be the only one who reads it.

Thank you sir.

advocate666:
In your head.

Maybe you should help him tell us if God has nipples instead looking for which family member I killed.

You saw clearly that you are not his match, you ran.

Satanist wanabe. You be new comer. You shd be here with the likes of Melin and SonofLucifer were here.

Geraut.

zoedew:
I thank you.

For what nah?

zoedew:
You appear to mix things up here. Since the days of Adam and Eve in Gen.3 it has not made meaning to God to blame another (not even one’s wife) for a sin committed by an individual. That his wife got pregnant for someone else is no reason for him to commit the sin of adultery. It must be in your imagination that I said he sinned beyond pardon! It is not in my place to say that!! Nowhere in my terse post did I say that. Read it again. No one wise ever prays to experience another’s misfortune. It is meant to be an ensample unto us - 1 Corinthians 10:6-12
“Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand. Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer. Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.”
Going forward, I will not let Satan send one of his daughters to me. It is a matter of choice. He made his choice.
Truth is, confession before men is nowhere near genuine repentance and confession BEFORE God! The latter is of greater moment before God. God is more concerned about the soul of the individual than “Ministry”. Take time to listen more carefully to his statement of 04/03/2019 and set same against the background of- say, David’s in 2 Samuel 12:13 “And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, The Lord also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die”) when confronted with his sin of adultery with Bathsheba.

Yes, i agree that as a servant of God, he was wrong to commit adultery because his wife did. That is very childish.

On the issue of repentance and public confession. Bros, do you realise that it's far easier to confess your sins before God, than to do it before men? Not a few men, but the entire world?

If you ask me, it takes brokenness to do that. No proud person in the position of Ingila will publicly admit to committing adultery and having a child. Did Madam do it?

The Madam screaming out right now, hid hers.

You typing this commits your own sins, have you told your pastor in private? Can you stand before your small congregation and say, forgive me, i have sinned. I did this and that? Hardly. Why then kill a man who did?

And back to David, David, the servant of God sinned against God, he didn't on his own confess, he waited for Nathan to indict him before he fell down crying and confessed TO God, in private. David did not call an Assembly and publicly confessed his sin. But, Ingila went a step further. He didn't only Confess to God but did to Men.

God sees motives and judges accordingly, but men don't hence judge, kill and bury even when they themselves are guilty of the same sin.

Bros, if you say Ingila is not repentant, and did not confess to God before coming to men, then, you shd try doing same.

Commit fornication, remain unrepentant, don't ask God for forgiveness, but go before the Church and confess before them that you has se.x with sister Charity the Choir leader. Try it and see if you can.

I saw that confession on facebook, i know he is repentant and i know Jesus has forgiven him.

You may have to take a lesson on Pride.

hibrahim:
See why prophet iginla wife ran away from her husband last year to UK after discovering that he consulted and uses occult power for miracles. Check out the Facebook link


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1265880803566621&id=713199268834780

I have read it. lol. before i say anything, i must say i don't know Ingila. I have stopped once to listen to him. Until this case, i never clicked on anything with his name. I don't believe in the ministry or Prophets. i am not a prophetic follower. I follow the Word of God through Faith strictly. So, i am not here to say this man is guilty or not, i just follow facts presented here and use reason to analyze them. This concerned marriage, that is why i read it. I am a lady and will not like another woman to be maltreated in a marriage.

That said.


Pls, when you want to make a case against someone, make a strong and valid case. what i read there is not believable at all.

The article says 'a leaked audio tape', i expected to listen to voices talking, but i ended up reading a question and answer session. Anybody could have put those words together. We have seen people who never granted interviews yet reads things supposedly said by them.

You may say it was translated into English. Okay, pls this is Nigeria and Yorubas are here to read and tell us what was said, So pls, post the audio tape.
And the video attached at the end is a redirect. It didn't play.

I'm sorry to say this, but, Ingila's wife needs to be born again.