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Omudia11:
Read very 25 of that same Genesis 1.
Eve was actually referred to as Adam's wife.

And as i know, the term 'Wife' is used to address a woman in marriage, not outside one.

Linda Ikeji is a Lady, she has a child, but she is not a Wife just becos she had sex to get pregnant.

You get my point?

OpenYourEyes1:
Atheist nowadays though. I was an atheist but was never this bitter.
I was just angry at the religious people and their hypocrisy. I had problems with the soo much violence, child abuse, Lawlessness, in the name of religion. I would advise them to be like their Jesus. I never had problems with Jesus as atheist.

But, why were you angry tho? Jesus said those things and even worst things will yet happen because of the selfishness and wickedness of men. If they don't happen, Jesus would ve lied and He does not lie.

Worst things will yet happen sef. Be ready. See how cutting of human heads is almost becoming a normal thing.

In the 90s, it was unhead of, but the Muslims started cutting people's heads on TV others saw and thought it was okay to do it, today is normal.
Homosexuality is normal now. Pedophilia is almost normal. Gambling is more than normal.

My dear, just wait and see demons walking physically on the streets very soon.

Grupo:
What do you mean by "marriage was ordained by God?" and by God here, I know you are referring to the Yahweh, the mythical God of the Jews who created a fictitious garden of eden.

Before your ancestors got to know about Yahweh, were they not marrying according to the traditions they developed for themselves?

This kid. Pls answer the Op. How shd atheist conduct themselves in Marriage. I will really laf at you if you mention any ordinances put in place by my mythical God who created fictitious garden to guide marriage.

How is atheistic marriage done? And what are the rules guiding it? Give real guidelines.

DeSepiero:
SEX!

You mean the reason God separated Adam and Eve was for them to have sex?
Why then is Sex outside marriage is a sin?

Grupo:
You are not serious. You want to start telling a cock and bull story about how one Jehovah instituted marriage in one fictitious garden?

Lolzzzzzzzz. Then keep quiet and let adults talk.

Grupo:
What do you mean by "marriage was ordained by God?" and by God here, I know you are referring to the Yahweh, the mythical God of the Jews who created a fictitious garden of eden.

Before your ancestors got to know about Yahweh, were they not marrying according to the traditions they developed for themselves?

By my ancestors you mean Adam and Eve?

JoannaSedley:
That's why the gods are three. The loving one is probably Jesus, the big one is the hell initiator while the spirit one is the hell enforcer. Dude even have a ghost fire to solidify the name tag.

You must be a Catholic to think that Gods are three. You'd have to show me from the Bible where it says the Gods are three.

Jesus is Jehova manifested and the Holy Ghost is His Spirit. ONE GOD.

MrPresident1:
The fire is not literal but it is hotter than physical literal fire.
Eternal fire is in eternal separation from God

Yes, And it is Second death.

peteruuu:
There's nothing like 'eternal fire'.
Hell has an end. Only God has no beginning and definitely has no end. If hell is eternal, then it would be equal to God

Do you understand? I'll love to make myself more clearer.

Hell or Hellfire has an end?
I hope you know that Hellfire and Hell are two different places?

Hell otherwise called Hades or the world of the dead or Sheol or The Grave (Not literal) is where all men gather after departing from this earth at death and awaits Judgement day, it is not the same as Hellfire where there's real fire? There is no one in Hellfire yet.

Hellfire is a lake but fire is the water in that lake. this will only be activated after the White Throne Judgment, and it hasn't happened yet. In this lake is where evil men shall die a second death. And Hades shall also be cast in there. Whatever happens here is eternal. Eternal means No End.

So, if you think you'd go to hellfire temporarily, then you must create your own hellfire if you are a child of wrath.

johnydon22:
Eternal punishment is inconsistent with the concept of an all loving omnibenevolent being.

I thought He didn't even exist(?)

Lol these people. No matter how many times you are told that YHWH didn't create Hellfire for Humans you refuse to hear. Well, i understand, it's not the flesh/Humanity running scared, it's the demons who are destined for hell residing in men that gets scared and wants men to see God as evil, it won't change anything.

Anyone who is spiritually dead cannot enter into Heaven even if its gatez were thrown open for him. Children of darkness dwells in darkness, simple.

najib632:
This Christians leaders have truly corrupted your books , the certainly the word of Allah is true, I don't know which chapter is that but for I don't think it's Solomon 5.
Don't get cocky yet read it here:

Song of Solomon 5 King James Version (KJV)
5 I am come into my garden, my sister, my spouse: I have gathered my myrrh with my spice; I have eaten my honeycomb with my honey; I have drunk my wine with my milk: eat, O friends; drink, yea, drink abundantly, O beloved.

2 I sleep, but my heart waketh: it is the voice of my beloved that knocketh, saying, Open to me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled: for my head is filled with dew, and my locks with the drops of the night.

3 I have put off my coat; how shall I put it on? I have washed my feet; how shall I defile them?

4 My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him.

5 I rose up to open to my beloved; and my hands dropped with myrrh, and my fingers with sweet smelling myrrh, upon the handles of the lock.

6 I opened to my beloved; but my beloved had withdrawn himself, and was gone: my soul failed when he spake: I sought him, but I could not find him; I called him, but he gave me no answer.

7 The watchmen that went about the city found me, they smote me, they wounded me; the keepers of the walls took away my veil from me.

8 I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, if ye find my beloved, that ye tell him, that I am sick of love.

9 What is thy beloved more than another beloved, O thou fairest among women? what is thy beloved more than another beloved, that thou dost so charge us?

10 My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

11 His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.

12 His eyes are as the eyes of doves by the rivers of waters, washed with milk, and fitly set.

13 His cheeks are as a bed of spices, as sweet flowers: his lips like lilies, dropping sweet smelling myrrh.

14 His hands are as gold rings set with the beryl: his belly is as bright ivory overlaid with sapphires.

15 His legs are as pillars of marble, set upon sockets of fine gold: his countenance is as Lebanon, excellent as the cedars.

16 His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

King James Version (KJV)

I still have another sword to pull out against you and that's Isiah

That is the Message Bible. It is written in a plain and simple language so that lay men can read and understand. Lolzzzzzzz. and you couldn't even see tthat KJV says the same thing with The Message Bible.

Mr Muslim. Maybe you shd post from your copy which is not corrupted by my Christian leaders. because, the KJV you posted still projects two personas talking. Which is Muhammed and who is the other person?


Open your eyes oo.

DeSepiero:
Looking at it practically, the first assignment wasn't to get married because Adam didn't perform any marriage rites.
The first assignment would rather be to have sex and multiply.

What have you now said?

Who shd they have paid the rites to? God who said 'For this 'Cause' shall a man leave his family and be joined to wife, and they two shall become one flesh, knew what he meant.

Which Cause was YHWH talking abt sir?

iceboy4752:
I don't blame him totally, but don't you think it should have been better if he had married another woman? This would have saved him from many risks like involving in a fight with a boyfriend or husband to the lady with whom he was having the "discreet affairs," or contacting a disease.

I'm afraid, if you follow Seun with this, this thread wld be derailed. The OP is not abt adultery or the reason people commit adultery, but abt how atheists view marriage.

What is the sacredness of marriage to an atheist?

Shd an atheist even marry since it's ordained by God who does not exists?
If yes, are the laws guiding it binding on them, seeing they are godly?

I believe that is the Op, don't change it pls.

Grupo:
There are no defined rules binding the conduct of atheists anywhere in the world.

The only thread binding them is the lack of belief in a God.

Now, before I answer your question concerning marriage rites, define what you mean by marriage rites.

Hope you know paying of bride price is not rooted in any particular religion?

Let's start with you defining Marriage and then trace its origin.

Seun:
I think extra-marital affairs are almost always wrong, because you are breaking a promise you made and deceiving someone who is committed to you. The whole purpose of marriage is exclusivity. You are picking a person to be with and forsaking all others. Affairs defeat this purpose.

I recently read a story about a man whose wife was wonderful and a good mother but the only issue was that she refused to have sex with him after they got married. She wasn't interested in it at all. So he decided to indulge in discreet affairs to satisfy himself. I judged him not guilty.

Do you also judge marriage to be a covenant ordained by God?

Man's first assignment was to marry and fill the earth with kids. If you don't believe in God, you shouldn't believe in marriage for, He ordained marriage. Marriage between a man and a woman is a smaller version of the larger marriage between Christ and the Church.

And talking abt extramarital affairs, that'd be adultery. You won't even know it's wrong if YHWH didn't say it is. Animals don't know anything abt it because they weren't told not to do it.

Seun, you are wrapped in a grand divine sign otherwise called divine algorithm, these things are imbedded inside of you, you just know them because they are imputed into your underlying reality.

LastDays777:
Lol. It's fine to believe the moon is a rock. And it's weird to believe it's a light. I get that.

By the way in the other news: NASA's Parker Solar Probe will be heading to the sun too.

And some people will believe something can land on the sun

Unbelievable.

How funny how men would rather believe fellow men who are trying to discover things than believe the creator of those things.

God says the Moon is light, men the say the moon is a rock and people believe them.

This is the result of taking bites from Adam's Apple.

nnamdiosu:
Hi everyone. Hope we doing good.

Thanks jubianose for the book. Still reading it and will send you via mail my comments and observation on them.

Anas I see you.

So, from tomorrow I'll be dropping the part 2 of this book. This part will be more interesting but very different from the part 1.
This will be more like an expository into the heavens and hell. It will tell of what happened even before man was created. Why he was created.
The things that happened in the heavens when man sinned. And how it made Satan the god of this world.

We will see that there was indeed people (not human beings though)_ living in this world and how something like a war or destruction was carried out in this world before God made man.
The things that happened in heaven and hell when Jesus died and rose up plus the consequences of it all.

Off course it will be all fiction, with some real life experiences mixed with it. And everything backed up from the bible.
It will reveal some misconceptions people have e.g that Satan is ugly, or was the most power full angel.
Or that God of the old testament is more wicked than the one now.
May God help us understand, and give me the zeal to do it.

PLEASE NO MATTER HOW believing WHAT I WRITE IS. NEVER TAKE IT IN higher authority TO THE BIBLE. (EVEN THOUGH I BACKED IT UP FROM THE BIBLE). ALSO, PLEASE DONT GO LOOKING OUT FOR SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCES SO the DEVIL doesn't use it to trap us or deceive us. Just look up to Jesus. He is better than any experience. Amen

Amen.

najib632:
Here it is Solomon 5:16:
חִכּוֹ֙ מַֽמְתַקִּ֔ים וְכֻלּ֖וֹ "מַחֲמַדִּ֑ים" זֶ֤ה דוֹדִי֙ וְזֶ֣ה רֵעִ֔י בְּנ֖וֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָֽם

The roman criminals translated his name:
His mouth is sweetness itself; he is altogether lovely. This is "my beloved", this is my friend, daughters of Jerusalem.

my beloved-מַחֲמַדִּ֑ים

Translate this word using google translate or any thing you want, be open minded and logical:
מַחֲמַדִּ֑ים



read this up https://www.quora.com/Does-the-song-of-Solomon-5-16-predict-the-coming-of-Muhammad

Hahahahahahahaha. Oh Muslim. You are so deceived to believe Muhamad is in the same Bible you call fabricated and changed. Why you don't quote from the original version beats me.

Now here it is. Reading from verse 1 to the end gives you a clear pictures of what verse 16 is saying.

It is an exchange between two lovers, a man and his lover. It's a song.

[b]The Man

1I went to my garden, dear friend, best lover! breathed the sweet fragrance.

I ate the fruit and honey,

I drank the nectar and wine.

Celebrate with me, friends!

Raise your glasses—"To life! To love!"

The Woman

2I was sound asleep, but in my dreams I was wide awake.

Oh, listen! It's the sound of my lover knocking, calling!

The Man

"Let me in, dear companion, dearest friend,

my dove, consummate lover!

I'm soaked with the dampness of the night,

drenched with dew, shivering and cold."

The Woman

3"But I'm in my nightgown—do you expect me to get dressed?

I'm bathed and in bed—do you want me to get dirty?"

4-7But my lover wouldn't take no for an answer,

and the longer he knocked, the more excited I became.

I got up to open the door to my lover,

sweetly ready to receive him,

Desiring and expectant

as I turned the door handle.

But when I opened the door he was gone.

My loved one had tired of waiting and left.

And I died inside—oh, I felt so bad!

I ran out looking for him

But he was nowhere to be found.

I called into the darkness—but no answer.

The night watchmen found me

as they patrolled the streets of the city.

They slapped and beat and bruised me,

ripping off my clothes,

These watchmen,

who were supposed to be guarding the city.

8I beg you, sisters in Jerusalem—

if you find my lover,

Please tell him I want him,

that I'm heartsick with love for him.

9What's so great about your lover, fair lady?

What's so special about him that you beg for our help?

The Woman

10-16My dear lover glows with health—

red-blooded, radiant!

He's one in a million.

There's no one quite like him!

My golden one, pure and untarnished,

with raven black curls tumbling across his shoulders.

His eyes are like doves, soft and bright,

but deep-set, brimming with meaning, like wells of water.

His face is rugged, his beard smells like sage,

His voice, his words, warm and reassuring.

Fine muscles ripple beneath his skin,

quiet and beautiful.

His torso is the work of a sculptor,

hard and smooth as ivory.

He stands tall, like a cedar,

strong and deep-rooted,

A rugged mountain of a man,

aromatic with wood and stone.

His words are kisses, his kisses words.

Everything about him delights me, thrills me

through and through!

That's my lover, that's my man,

dear Jerusalem sisters.[/b]

So, na who and Muhamad dey sing dis love song? Na Aisha or Zeinab, his sons wife he snatched?

Hahahahahahaha. Funny how a thief stands with what he stole yet point at another person shouting 'Thief, thief'.




The Chorus

Bacteriologist:
Myopic comment.

So if hell was created for Satan and his demons, why are humans condemned to hell then? According to your false book of "babble" stories?

It is a false book but what is written therein frightens and shakes your groins. Poor wop.

HappyPagan:
Let me let you in on a little secret....only believers like yourself fear Hell Fire. No one's more scared of Hell than faithfools like you. That's why you love God so much... You're scared he'll burn you for leaving him.

I pray you find freedom some day. I doubt that will ever happen. Your soul exists no more... Only Jesus.






Yes you are Anas. There is a demon living inside of you...you call him the Holy Spirt.

Hahahahahahaha. You don't fear it yet you can't stop blaming God for creating it.
Hahahahahahaha. The consolation of a dying man.

jubianose:
ok dear..
I'm feasting on divine providence right now. That book stirs a chord in spirit...

Pls send AfterLife, Heaven and Hell and Divine Providence to Taiwocraig@gmail.com
God bless. Merry Christmas.

Aceed:
As in the thing dey baffle wella, and when they tell you their story, it's a case of the Lord Jesus picking them from the dunghill and seeing them in the palace, shey you get wetin I dey talk?

all I can ask for is grace, just grace, when I think of the stories of charlyg1 and co on the other thread, that guy on beholdwonder . com and the literature books of John Melton I no longer need someone to tell me this thing is real, what we know as reality sef is not reality...


abeg no vex for me ooo....mah mention you


anas09



madprophet where you dey oooo, come update your diary na... the Lord is your Strength

Why i go vex nah? Merry Christmas my dear. We shall make it.

Bacteriologist:
How can you certain theists be okay with the idea of eternal torture and threaten anyone with it?

Have you ever seen others suffer? Have you ever seen someone burn alive?

Do you have the ability to imagine yourself in such agony for eternity? And all of that just because someone was not convinced?

It seems like a total lack of empathy, along with a very selfish and egotistical behaviour while being so glad you won't get to suffer in case you're right. Which you most certainly won't be.

If you feel threatened then there is something wrong, because Hell was not created for any human being but for satan and his demons.

Are you a demon? Or is a demon living inside of you? If you are afraid of Hell then there's every reason to believe you are possessed by demons, go for deliverance.

Watch out for the demon possessed agents of satan who will come in here to taunt you. Be sure to ignore them.

And you are a girl. Wow. I'm soooo glad your bro is okay. In this life the secret of receiving is giving.

Apply it in all aspects of your life. Look for those who cannot help themselves and cannot pay you back, and help them.
Don't worry abt 25Dec. there'll many 25Decs. What if you came out and Emma was dead? What if he had completely gone mad and nowhere to be found?

Give God High Praise for the remaining days of this year and He'll surprise you with another job better than the former.

jubianose:
Hi my dear Ana09....
I sent the book 'Afterlife' and 'Heaven and Hell' by Emanuel Swedenborg to him.
I hope he will read it too as you did.
God bless you dear..

Oh, thank you dear brother. God bless you. As at right now, i am rereading it. i had to suspend reading Divine Providence for now.

Respect55:
U shouldn't have even replied him in the first place

True. He is not worth it.

Respect55:
Would have replied u but when I saw the abuses, I know something is really wrong

Good to ignore him. The guy is really disturbed and depressed.

frbona:
there's really no way out of this. This issue comes up every now and then. That child was ordained from the start by God so the circumstances that brought him to life should be totally ignored, don't bring him any of this. leave Judgement to God the eternal Judge. Lets celebrate an innocent child who is totally oblivious of anything his parents did or didn't do to bring him into existence and give him a chance at a fulfilled life . toss the morality debate into the thrash can.

Going by this your logic, Lot's two sons Moab and Amon gottten by his two daughters were ordained by God from the start too? Why then was God angry and rejected them? These things happen every now and then because of Disobedience to God, it doesn't mean God has changed or will change. No.

Listen, God, the Grand Divine designer had before creating the world set laws in place to rule the Universe. One of such laws is that, when a woman have sex with a man, she'd get pregnant, but this is to be done inside marriage not outside. But if you break the law and do it outside, you'd still be pregnant, but the baby will be a child of Sin. Stained, defiled and rejected just like Lot's sons.

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PaChukwudi44:
so who was supposed to dedicate the child? Your parents?

If she were a Christian, she shd ve known that her bastard will not be dedicated in Church.

Do you even know what dedication means? You see it as a mere ceremony? When a baby is stretched out, there must be hands to accept it, God's hands. But with all the filth and deception, shd God be a partaker of all of that?

Catholics and their disobedience to scriptures.

PaChukwudi44:
so which alter was the child supposed to be dedicated? I don't know why some people are incurably stupid.Is it biblically wrong to dedicate an innocent child to God? Haba what sort od stupidity is it this afternoon

Now that you left answering the question to attack her, has your bitterness subsided? If the Bible shd be followed all the way, Linda shd be hiding behind her mansion and not dare bring her bastard outside, not to talk of presenting it before God's Altar.

Money must have greased that Clergy's hands to dedicate that child to himself because God will not accept that defiled seed.


Maybe you shd take crash course on Scriptures before you come out venting your anger in public.

toyosi20188:
That is what I'm trying to say. Solomon was born when Bathsheba was already being acknowledged as David's wife.

That case and this has no bearings, as there's no father in Linda's case, but David was present with Bathsheba.