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dino2006:
How much does the Nigerian produced Mobil cost per litre?

I doubt if the 5w-30 sold by Mobil petrol stations is manufactured / blended in Nigeria. Unless that price has changed it costs btw N7800 - 8000 for 4 litres in Lagos.

dino2006:
How long have you been using milemaster pls? I would like to try it out

About 4 yrs.

On a 2010 Honda Accord ( 5w-20 ) and a 2011 Toyota Corolla ( 5w-30 ). I have had absolutely no issues whatsoever.

Mind you i have used other brands but have stuck to Milemaster. @ N7,500 for 5 qts it makes sense especially in this regime of change!

dino2006:
Hello guys. I drive a camry 2000, and service with oil SAE 5w30. Looks like the oil is scarce in the market. Pls What alternative oil spec will be compatible with my engine? Or is not advisable to change oil spec? Cc boldx

Oil isn't scarce.

You have several brands ( Coastal, Milemaster, Hardex, Lubex, Castrol, Mobil1, Valvoline, etc ) in the market ranging from N6,500 to N18,000 for 5 litres.

Alternative viscosities open to you are 5w-40, 15w-40, and of course the ever popular 20w-50.

CastroLubeNg:
Hello Niaralander, Try Castrol Lubricants. You will be very happy you did. You can get more information on Nairaland

@ Castrolube

Another reason why I won't touch Castrol is because their 5w-20 has an API rating of SL and an ILSAC rating of GF-3.

API SL / ILSAC GF-3 certified oils are for cars manufactured between 2001 - 2004. This is something a lot of people are unaware of.

The majority of oils today are API SN / ILSAC GF-5 certified and are suitable for cars manufactured from 2010. They are also backward compatible which means you can use them where SM, SL, etc are specified.

Paying N10,000 ( or more ) for an older spec castrol oil when i can choose another brand that gives me present spec for same amount or lower makes little sense.

The awareness will only get better.

mili3kid:
but guys pls all tru dis argument and sturvs we neva even see d pix of d engine, the wiring, transmission, dash board n d rest...
oga Emeka... pls lets see dis engine na. izit as shiny as U say it is or as crappy as oga Pato says it is?
bsyd i followed d thread all tru... sorry for ur loss bro...

Neither the OP or sooperrescue has denied there is an unresolved issue. Proof is therefore unnecessary. Lets not get derailed.

GAZZUZZ:
Nah 4k refund for parts delivered but found to be faulty (broken could have happened during delivery no fault of his) that made you want to tarnish luvinghubby image here? And I was thinking it was over 400k abeg send me ur acc.

I believe this is how the wahala started. An account number was asked for and he was never paid / refunded.

CastroLubeNg:
Try Castrol Lubricants Bro. You will definitely ask for more.More information now on Nairaland

Unlikely. Milemaster works for me. Has done so for the past 4 yrs.

Don't get me wrong. Castrol is great oil and I have used it as well as Pennzoil Ultra, Mobil 1, and Valvoline in the past. But I still settled for Milemaster. Why ? It's formulation is similar to the Castrols, Mobils, etc but better than the standard oils Ford, Honda, and Toyota suggest we use.

The 5w-20s and 5w-30s from Castrol are made using Group 3 base oil stock which is no different from what Milemaster uses. The flash point is lower than that of Milemaster. Save for Molybdenum and Boron the additive package on the Castrol 5w-30 Edge is not better than that of Milemaster 5w-20 ( see attached files ). Look at the levels of Calcium and Magnesium in the additive package. Castrol definitely won't clean my engine any better than Milemaster.

Castrol has been in the game longer and expectedly has a greater following. But there is nothing to suggest that spending more money ( N10,000 minimum on 5qts ) for Castrol gives me better value than spending N7,500 on 5qts of Milemaster for my Honda Accord or Toyota Corolla.

The gap between oils be they conventional, semi-synthetic, or fully synthetic have narrowed tremendously over the years. Having a popular or well known name has its advantages but you need more than that to sell in a competitive / price sensitive market where enlightenment is on the rise.

stelaar:
So i meet up with my friends for an evening out and as guys we start talking cars and maintenance.
The usual poor maintenance culture in Nigeria and how one of my friends only services his car when his about to travel lol.

To cut the long talk short someone comes up with "Engine decarbonization" and how he swears it improves engine performance, fuel consumption and engine life.

In all my automobile use and research i have never come by this process in any Nigerian service centre.

Please share your thoughts or experience as i am tempted to try it out.

Google Seafoam Spray treament. Its about removing carbon from your valves and piston heads. I have tried it and it made a difference. There are people who will say they have noticed nothing. There are youtube videos on this as well.

Milemaster 5w-20 for my accord and Milemaster 5w-30 for my wife's corolla.

Its N7500 on Konga and some selected dealers in Lagos. Costs more outside Lagos.

Even at N7500 it's sold more than all the other oils combined on Konga and has good reviews supporting it.

The recommended viscosity for your car as contained in the owners manual is 0/5w-30 operating in temperatures below 86 degrees Fahrenheit and 0/5w-40 for temperatures higher than 86 degrees Fahrenheit.

I am pretty sure that the Volvo engine designers conducted tests over a wide temperature range and arrived at a viscosity that would work. These cars are tested in over 100 degrees and below 0 degrees temperatures before they are released to the public for purchase the world over. What is the present mileage of your car?

Below are a few of reasons why engines consume oil.

Your PCV is clogged,
Your piston rings are worn,
Your valve / stem seals are bad,
You have purchased the wrong oil viscosity,
you have purchased oil advertised as xW-30 or xW-40 but it is really lighter in reality.


I hope this helps.

Seafoam is available from Tulz Autos.

They operate out of MRS petrol station on Murtala Muhammed Way, Yaba.

Their numbers are 08066230187 and 08028427728.

awiriwa:
Not at all. As long as the brand is credible (the most preferred brands are Toyota and Mobil-1). By the way, did you use the American Spec oil?

The American Spec seems to have very good effects on the engine and even provides for quicker acceleration and enhanced fuel economy. I have used it previously so i know.

The differences in oil at times is just in the brand name and price. Most of their additive packs and physical properties are very close. ( see attached files )

paix:
I used 5w30 full synthetic oil recommended for Honda for my Toyota Avensis 2011, did I fuckup?

Absolutely not.

The chemical composition of both oils is very similar.

I thought you were marketing the North Sea brand? What happened ?

All the items you have just suggested have prices ranging from N10,000 - N13,750 for 5qts. ( delivery non-inclusive )

Unless I am wrong I believe the OP's desire is to identify comparable products readily available in PH and costing less than N9000.

nurey:
I can't guarantee its quality but I believe Mrs is not a small business. but the oil has served me well through out that mile without losing quality.
thanks for the heads up

Corruption does not respect company size. What happened to company A can be repeated in company B provided there are willing players.
We all take a risk purchasing products from organisations who will never be punished in the court of law if it is ever discovered that they over promised and under delivered.

Many soft drinks claim liquid content is 35cl but in reality it is not. You could conduct a chemical analysis test tomorrow and discover what you have been buying as full synthetic is really conventional. Nor be Naija?

My guy only God will help us.

nurey:
I use MRS full synthetic 5W40 priced @ 6500 for 5litres. I have been using it for two years now on my toyota sienna 2000. I replace it @ every 8000km/6months which ever comes first.

A lot of Nigerian blended oils are advertised as "full synthetic". In the absence of an oil analysis how do we really know they are what they claim ?

Would you believe if I told you that a popular oil manufacturer was releasing and selling base oil as finished motor oil. This was able to happen because the indian company contracted to include the additives into the oil was not doing so. This scam was able to go on for a while undetected because the indian company had connived with the QC head of the oil manufacturer to sign off that the products were up to standard.

How can you really tell that what you are purchasing is full synthetic ?

ekeochaeke:
Hi,
I use a naija used corrolla 2003. I have had it for a year now. I have been using Milemaster 5w 30 Engine oil to service the car. But recently due to economic meltdown and some other issues i cannot afford to buy the engine oil. It used to cost N7000 now it is N9000 here in port Harcourt.

Pls can anyone recommend a suitable synthetic engine oil replacement. i would appreciate it is based on actual usage and not as a means to advertise any brand.

Also what is the effect on my engine if i replace the brand i previously used. FYI i do not know the previous service history from the original owner but i guess he was not using 5w 30.

Milemaster oils are presently N7500 on konga. There is a 5% discount if you pay using Kongapay. Delivery charges are N1000 flat regardless of the quantity you purchase.

So if you and 9 other people purchase 10 gallons you all will share the N1000 delivery charge. 5% reduction translates to an effective charge of N7125. Add delivery charge of N100 and your landing cost to your doorstep is N7225 for 4.73 litres. No sense in buying from a dealer.

The way forward is budget dependent but at least you now have more info on your options.

Which of the two filters that you cut open had the irregularly spaced pleats?

For the price they are sold here we both know that none of them originated from the Honda Manufacturing Plant so there are no legal issues to worry about.

senator2k9:
I BEG TO DISAGREE with u on this one my bro. I dnt thinks the maint required light is set to any mileage. There's a system in d car dat detects when the oil no longer has its required viscosity and thats when the light comes on. Check this .....I was using milemaster 5w20 and about 2500 miles the maint required light came on, when I switched to Mobil 1 5w30 the maint required light only comes on when I have exceeded 5000 miles or more.

Perhaps you might want to compare your experience using the same viscosity i.e 5w-30 milemaster vs 5w-30 Mobil 1.

Yeah. Mechanics are terrible. But not all. Some car owners do a fair bit of damage on their own.

I know someone who allowed a mechanic pour AP Visco 2000 ( engine oil ) into his honda transmission instead of Honda ATF Z1 simply because both fluids were red in colour. That same person continues to complain to this day that his mechanic deceived him and is useless. He refuses to accept that the cheaper price of Visco 2000 was what influenced his decision.

I know of another person who bought a brand new 2015 honda accord and saw a light on his dashboard. Instead of reading his manual he asked his nearly 50 yr driver who is probably used to driving 504 what the light meant. Of course the driver refusing to fall his hand suggested the car needed servicing and off my friend went replacing everything replaceable only to discover at the end that the light was indicating his tire pressure was low. This person blamed his driver and mechanic for the expense incurred rather than accept that the expense would have been avoided had he read his manual first.

Another lady was servicing her car monthly. Changing fuel filter, air filter, and oil filters along with engine oil and fan belt. This was done on a monthly basis for over 2 yrs until one of her work colleagues found out and busted the mechanics bubble. I am sure that mechanic had built his house from this lady's payments. The items to be changed are clearly spelt out in the manual.

A mechanic services your carburettor and does not couple it together with all the parts. That already tells you not to use him again. But I can bet most of us will go back to such a demon for him to replace our ball joints.

The point here is that many car owners are not knowledgeable. But some of us ( not all ) at times create problems for ourselves and conveniently blame people we suspect or know to be limited. Case of the one-eyed man asking the blind for directions.

Terrible mechanics will continue to exist and have a field day until we car owners take the trouble ( and yes it is some trouble ) to become more knowledgeable about the cars we drive and carry our loved ones in on a daily basis.

mexxy1:
Thank you for affirming my position.

see link below

https://www.nairaland.com/1788778/maintenance-tips-cars/28

Temas is complaning about oil shortage with Mobil 1 5w-30. Trust me no one will draw any attention to this. If it was Milemaster ...........

mexxy1:
Well, like I said earlier we all have our individual opinions which should be respected and not imposed on others. The link you posted never showed Milemaster caused any problems rather the complainants did not follow the right process in changing from one oil grade to another. Changing from a thicker to a thinner oil surely will give problems and the oil should not be blamed. Same scenario would have played out if it was Mobil oil they used in the change of oil grades.

We all have varying driving habits and that determines a lot on how the long the vehicle serves us.

I'll stick with my guts on this issue till I see reasonable proof. Thanks for your time.

Happy New Year Chief,

People like you and adanny01 have used the oil and will continue to face a herculean task convincing people that it is good oil. You certainly will not achieve that on a thread that was started by someone who happens to be selling a different oil brand.

Several mechanics rely on the fact that most car owners know very little and so proceed to say and un-say as the wind blows. Several friends of mine and I switched from Mobil 1 0w-40 / Mobil XHP 20w-50 and have been using Milemaster 5w-20 and 5w-30 in all our cars and petrol generators since 2013 and have still not experienced the problems some people credit Milemaster with.

It is unfortunate that regardless of all the information available online people still rely on what they are told by the next man especially at a time where internet access is no longer prohibitive. Very soon Milemaster oils will be blamed for failing shock absorbers.

My advice is to let it go and leave the naysayers. After all was it not the other day mechanics were saying manual drive cars were better than automatics and that carburetted engines were superior to fuel injection.

Milemaster is and still remains the number selling oil on konga. The positive reviews about them are there for all to see. No amount of bad press can change that.

Experience4u:
I think am in the same dilemma, bought a rav4 2004 2.4L and changed the oil it came with to Visco 2000 20w50 and after three months I switched to Hardex 5w30 which is the recommended oil grade. My engine was flushed with a pressure pump of a sort. But after 3 days my engine started smoking whitish blue flame especially during morning hours or when not driven for a long time. I don't know why my engine smokes but with the change of oil, my car idling noise is now hardly heard. Pls gurus what is the cause of the light smoking

See link below
https://www.nairaland.com/1438030/adverse-effects-adding-too-much

Perhaps you have too much oil in your crankcase.

IyaIode:
pls which engine oil will your recommend, it's scary what I read from that thread. I think the previous owner used mobile 20w50.

You might want to read this thread so that you have a balanced view.
https://www.nairaland.com/1974986/used-milemaster-5w-30-oil-before

Below are links for the specified oil viscosities and oil filters for fords from 1997 - 2015

http://www.ilma.org/resources/chart_oil_recommendations.pdf

https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/main/quickref/oilchart.pdf

That should take the guess work out.

@ OP. I hope this helps identify the oil viscosity for your car.

The best oil is the type recommended by Toyota. Such information is contained in the owners manual or printed on the oil cap.

I would guess the oil for your car is of the viscosity 5w-30.

This seems like a general complaint. I made a payment of N10000 on wednesday and since then have sent 3 emails attaching proof of payment yet my account has still not been credited.

Is there something wrong?

adanny01:
I have just crossed the 7.5k miles 2 days ago and the 'Maintenance required' light started flashing but not steady yet. I have decided to change and have purchased a gallon yesterday.

Bros. You are the man! I change mine @ 4000 miles / 6400 kilometres. Not sure I would be courageous to do what you have especially as all my miles are covered within the city. If I travel with my car every now and then perhaps i would stretch it.

@shamecurls

OP is concerned about people who have used the MileMaster brand, where it was purchased from, what their experience has been so far, etc . Are you suggesting we should be wary of Milemaster?

If there is something you know that we don't please share and substantiate where necessary.

Your input might be a lot more helpful than you think.

Cheers.