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dont be far from God. Also see your doctor regularly to put a check on the irregular menstrual period. I wish you all the best.

Pastor AIO:
The above in a nutshell is their goal. To discover IPIN, their allotment in life and live in accordance with it. This is done in spite of various influences in society and circumstance and the fact that our 'choice contract' or Ayanmo is forgotten by the time that we are born. So we have to grope around in the dark looking for our essential truth.

And it is this intercessor that Orunmila claims to be. In his role as Alukoso Aye he is in direct communication with Aludundun Orun the Drummer of heaven which is another epithet for Ajalamopin, he who moulded the destinies. He communicates directly with Ori and communicates what Ori has to say to the divinee.

PASTOR AIO, you are very correct and your knowledge about IFA surprises me.

Now let me add a little more to your contribution about IPIN (human allotment or destiny). The general believe of Ifa adherents is that Orunmila was there when different destinies or IPIN were been given to individualsfrom above. It was this IPIN that Orunmila normally made attempt to reveal to the people that contacted him during his divinations. because of this, Orunmila was given the appellate "ELERI IPIN" i.e ONE WHO WITNESSED HUMAN DESTINIES, and "ONIPIN ERI" i.e ONE WHOSE OWN DESTINY WAS TO WITNESS. That was why people normally conducted him for divination during his sojourn on earth whenever they wanted to take very important steps in their lives to know what destinies had for them about such steps.

KunleOshob:
How were IFA adherents able to keep such volumes of information and messages intact and undiluted since the ancient yorubas were not known to have any form of documentation or proper record keeping.

I must confess that it was only Orunmila whom the message was revealed through that was able to keep the volumes of messages intact. The messages contained 256 chapters with each chapter containing great number of verses. at the time of revelation, the act of documentation in ancient yoruba was barely non-existent, so documentation was not possible. What adherents did was to make sure they learned by art a good no of different verses in each of the 256 verses and pass it from one generation to another until documentation became possible. But no single person was able to get everything until documentation.

You will agree with me that most religious books were not able to capture 100% messages that was brought by the religion. some of the messages may have been deliberately expunged by some people or some may have been lost in transit or some may have been edited or revised with exception to the Moslems who lay claim that their book was documented 100% as it was revealed.

KunleOshob:
@Idinrete& pastor AIO
So what are the main doctrines and practises of the IFA religion and why in your own opinion as it been presented to us in mordern times as fetish and evil?

the main doctrines are:

1. OLODUMARE with his heavenly powers is the Creator/ the Greatest/ the all powerful and only HIM Knows whom shall be saved or only HIM can save/. this is witnessed by Orunmila's name and that .

2. Human relationships should be based on truth and devoid of hypocrisy.

3. there is destiny and that a person can be a better human- being if he works in alignment with his destiny. this is the basis of the message of divination of Orunmila.

4. Human being needs an intercessor to connect to the creator.

One of the reasons it has been reffered to as fetish is because most foreign religions have to paint the indigenous religions black to sell their owns.

EDUCATION IS GREATER THAN MONEY. By education, i do not mean only formal education but any education that will allow one's brain to function optimally. if you have money but not education, you may eventually mismanage the money or even your life. but if you education you have freedom and may even have money later.

everybody

I never knew Lagos could be these beautiful Fasholar began to perform. Lagos is gradually become the kind of lagos we all dreamt. may God help our government to do more.

posakosa:
Is Ifa a god or a religion ? Im a bit confused.

Ifa is not a god, OLODUMARE is the God. But Ifa is a aggregation of messages revaeled by Olodumare help mankind with divination and problem solving. the totality of the message, Ifa, combined with the teachings of Orunmila about OLODUMARE make up a religion and that is the religion the Ifa adherents practise.

God have mercy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pastor AIO:
But I think that it gets twisted by organised religion and codification of mores and virtue.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-150020.0.html
. . . called Al-fitra, so what more do you need?

What exactly do you mean by this statement?

KunleOshob:
I am aslo interested in learning about Ifa, i believe there is some wisdom to be learnt from it. @idinrete could you kindly give us a brief write up telling us what is it is all about?

truly, there is humongous knowledge in the messages of the Ifa as was revealed through Orunmila by Olodumare. The messages if compiled together is greater in volume when compared to most other religious books and all these were revealed through Orunmila offhand without any prior formal education. that was why Orunmila was given the appellate " akere finu sogbon" (small in stature but mighty in wisdom) by his first set of adherents to show their respect for the overwhelming knowledge revealed through Orunmila.

The true meaning of Orunmila is "ORUN MO ENI TO MA A LA" (HEAVEN KNOWS WHOM SHALL BE SAVED).

IFA is a message from OLODUMARE to mankind. It is a message of divination and solutions to the problems of mankind as revealed through Orunmila.

please go to hospital quickly. if delay for too long it can cause infertility

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People of Ekiti should not be influenced by his visit to campaign. Ekiti Parapo should critically evaluate the two candidates before making a better choice.

President Bush never campaigned openly for McCain. Our presidents are too partisan. Ekiti people should just be careful in my opinion and not be moved by any presidential campaign. They should only vote if they are convinced tha candidate can deliver.

My guy, if the master is at the United States, please go, since your father is taking the full responsibility. US economy is heavily industrialised and they like employing graduate students more than BSc. There is high tendency you may get a job before you complete your degree and their policy against foreigners working after completing masters degree is not as strict as in UK.

If the master is at UK or Europe, please stay back and work for two years at least. one year work experience is not always taken to be experience by employers. At the end of your education in UK, you are not allowed to work in UK. so you will definitely come back to nigeria to work. It is then the work experience might distinguish you.

you can try any of the following names:

YAM
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BUT DONT TRY ANNYPLENTY

Watch this video and pass your comment.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5TPbZTWNB4&feature=dir

Watch this clip. You will definitely be grateful to God for your situation. I believe it should go to the health section but I just want people to see one of the reasons they should be grateful to God for being in better conditions.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5TPbZTWNB4&feature=dir