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Happy Birthday to "THE SENIOR ADVOCATE OF THE MASSES" (SAM). I wish you long life and good health to see Nigeria become the reality you dreamt.

UP LIVERPOOL, UP LIVERPOOL , UP LIVERPOOL.

WE WILL NEVER WALK ALONE.

Pastor AIO:
IFA: Intelligence From Above

SECONDED

ifa - indigenous faith of africa

KunleOshob,

you are fast becoming a radical voice to religious extortionists!

I created a new topic: which nairaland member is your kind of man/woman? on the sexuality section.

I have interest in the topic and I was following it with keen passion. mohawkchik moved it to nairaland forum. Now shaz has also moved the thread away and i cant find the thread again.

Shaz, please what happened to my thread?

dont be far from God. Also see your doctor regularly to put a check on the irregular menstrual period. I wish you all the best.

Pastor AIO:
The above in a nutshell is their goal. To discover IPIN, their allotment in life and live in accordance with it. This is done in spite of various influences in society and circumstance and the fact that our 'choice contract' or Ayanmo is forgotten by the time that we are born. So we have to grope around in the dark looking for our essential truth.

And it is this intercessor that Orunmila claims to be. In his role as Alukoso Aye he is in direct communication with Aludundun Orun the Drummer of heaven which is another epithet for Ajalamopin, he who moulded the destinies. He communicates directly with Ori and communicates what Ori has to say to the divinee.

PASTOR AIO, you are very correct and your knowledge about IFA surprises me.

Now let me add a little more to your contribution about IPIN (human allotment or destiny). The general believe of Ifa adherents is that Orunmila was there when different destinies or IPIN were been given to individualsfrom above. It was this IPIN that Orunmila normally made attempt to reveal to the people that contacted him during his divinations. because of this, Orunmila was given the appellate "ELERI IPIN" i.e ONE WHO WITNESSED HUMAN DESTINIES, and "ONIPIN ERI" i.e ONE WHOSE OWN DESTINY WAS TO WITNESS. That was why people normally conducted him for divination during his sojourn on earth whenever they wanted to take very important steps in their lives to know what destinies had for them about such steps.

KunleOshob:
How were IFA adherents able to keep such volumes of information and messages intact and undiluted since the ancient yorubas were not known to have any form of documentation or proper record keeping.

I must confess that it was only Orunmila whom the message was revealed through that was able to keep the volumes of messages intact. The messages contained 256 chapters with each chapter containing great number of verses. at the time of revelation, the act of documentation in ancient yoruba was barely non-existent, so documentation was not possible. What adherents did was to make sure they learned by art a good no of different verses in each of the 256 verses and pass it from one generation to another until documentation became possible. But no single person was able to get everything until documentation.

You will agree with me that most religious books were not able to capture 100% messages that was brought by the religion. some of the messages may have been deliberately expunged by some people or some may have been lost in transit or some may have been edited or revised with exception to the Moslems who lay claim that their book was documented 100% as it was revealed.

KunleOshob:
@Idinrete& pastor AIO
So what are the main doctrines and practises of the IFA religion and why in your own opinion as it been presented to us in mordern times as fetish and evil?

the main doctrines are:

1. OLODUMARE with his heavenly powers is the Creator/ the Greatest/ the all powerful and only HIM Knows whom shall be saved or only HIM can save/. this is witnessed by Orunmila's name and that .

2. Human relationships should be based on truth and devoid of hypocrisy.

3. there is destiny and that a person can be a better human- being if he works in alignment with his destiny. this is the basis of the message of divination of Orunmila.

4. Human being needs an intercessor to connect to the creator.

One of the reasons it has been reffered to as fetish is because most foreign religions have to paint the indigenous religions black to sell their owns.

EDUCATION IS GREATER THAN MONEY. By education, i do not mean only formal education but any education that will allow one's brain to function optimally. if you have money but not education, you may eventually mismanage the money or even your life. but if you education you have freedom and may even have money later.

everybody

I never knew Lagos could be these beautiful Fasholar began to perform. Lagos is gradually become the kind of lagos we all dreamt. may God help our government to do more.

posakosa:
Is Ifa a god or a religion ? Im a bit confused.

Ifa is not a god, OLODUMARE is the God. But Ifa is a aggregation of messages revaeled by Olodumare help mankind with divination and problem solving. the totality of the message, Ifa, combined with the teachings of Orunmila about OLODUMARE make up a religion and that is the religion the Ifa adherents practise.

God have mercy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!