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this is called concealing information and not lie.

lie is always aimed at deceiving while concealing information is always aimed at subverting judgement. both may be used to achieve the same purpose though the latter is excusable more so if the first party never asked about the subject for which information was concealed.

Mowire:
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_{GO ASK THE ELDERS THE TRUTH, THE HISTORY.}

Have a great evening.

It seems you like making references to some elders as the basis of your posts. who are the elders you always refer us to ask? can you please mention some names. besides that some people you refer us to are elders doesnt not mean they will be an authority on the topic of IFA that we are discussing. the age of methuselah might not have something to do with the wisdom of solomon. I will suggest that if you might want us to take your references so serious, decline from referring us to elders. instead make reference from the words of IFA directly or you quote an history of the religion you might know.

I have answers to all your questions and even some more you have not asked but will like to know the motive behind yor inquisitions before taking you up.

I think even many women devotes most ofl their attentions to their children once then begin to arrive and totally neglect their husbands and after nursing of babies its difficult to continue with their husbands where they stopped.

tope5000:
Yes i know its against God's will but i must test drive dat shyte. Lol, dnt want to end up wit an impotent dude abeg. We r all sinners anyways so God will 4give. Lol

pls are u d same as tope2000 or another person?

rip

debosky:
15 minutes (after the I do's and the 'you may kiss the bride')

debosky, you know i do not meant 15 means. I am just opportuned to be closed to up to 8 married men whose marriages range between 9 months to 2 years and majority of them complain the same way on seperate occassions. Then I begin to wonder if this could be a natural phenomenon.

When I now combine this knowledge to the long list of world notable married men who have cheated against their wives on the excuse of getting bored in NAURA HAYDEN'S book titled : "how to satisfy a man each time and have him beg for more". I become a little more interested so that I can be guided before I tie the knot

Most married men complained of being bored of their wives soon after wedding and they start nursing a feeling of getting an extra spice from outside, I mean from another woman.

What will make a man get bored of his wife not too long into the wedding?.

Mowire:
For the uniformed mind who might have been reading about all this ifa stuff, it is an interesting discovery that the religion is so "advanced".

But to all you ifa students, initiates, and prosilytes (ope the spelling is right), please let us know the following:
1) If obatala is the creator, then who is Olodumare?

2) Who and what is Ela?

3) Who is Oluorogbo?

4) How do these two above relate/compare to Jesus

5) If worship of sango , for example, truely predates christianity and islam, why then does the oriki of sango contain verses that indicate that he was versed in Islamic prayers and the quran? Remember that most of the Yoruba orisas are of similar age.

6) What is the place of human sacrifice, still being practised in Yoruba land for their oros (deities), in your ifa morality?

No one should really be in the dark to the fact that all the authors (so called authorities) of the ifa literatures of today are most of the very very recent age who are fighting a purely cultural battle and not necessarily a battle for the TRUTH.

I am looking forward to all the possible verbal attacks. _{I AM A NIGERIAN and YORUBA}

1 Olodumare is the MOST HIGH and SUPREME BEING and CREATOR of everything. Obatala is one of OLODUMARE's messengers delegated with moulding babies.

2. Ela is another spiritual name for Orunmila.The name embodies the ability of Orunmila to make divinations. He is either called Ela, Bara Agbonniregun or Orunmila Bara Agbonniregun.

3. Oluorogbo was one of the descendants of oranmiyan.

4. I dont understand your question.Make it more understandable.

5. please, make reference to that oriki for relevant respone.

6. Oro is totally different from IFA. Ifa is the totally of the message revealed through Orunmila to bring solutions to the problems of mankind. so, dont commingle oro with IFA. Orunmila never taught human sacrifice in any of his revealatios.


7. No one should really be in the dark to the fact that all the authors (so called authorities) of the ifa literatures of today are most of the very very recent age who are fighting a purely cultural battle and not necessarily a battle for the TRUTH.

I agree that some peolple may be fighting a cultural battle but there are large knowledge numbers whose championing is for the establishment of the truth in IFA. Let me also make it known to you the age of most of the perpetrators of world religions today are recent compared to the age of the religion they are perpetrating. So , this is not common to Ifa alone.

I am looking forward to all the possible verbal attacks. I AM A NIGERIAN and YORUBA

Mowire:
For the uniformed mind who might have been reading about all this ifa stuff, it is an interesting discovery that the religion is so "advanced".

But to all you ifa students, initiates, and prosilytes (ope the spelling is right), please let us know the following:
1) If obatala is the creator, then who is Olodumare?

Olodumare is the MOST HIGH and SUPREME BEING and CREATOR of everything. Obatala is one of OLODUMARE's messengers delegated with moulding babies.

2) Who and what is Ela?

Ela is another spiritual name for Orunmila.The name embodies the ability of Orunmila to make divinations. He is either called Ela, Bara Agbonniregun or Orunmila Bara Agbonniregun.

3) Who is Oluorogbo?

Oluorogbo is one of the descendants of oranmiyan.

4) How do these two above relate/compare to Jesus.

I dont understand your question.

5) If worship of sango , for example, truely predates christianity and islam, why then does the oriki of sango contain verses that indicate that he was versed in Islamic prayers and the quran? Remember that most of the Yoruba orisas are of similar age.

please, make reference to that oriki for relevant respone.

6) What is the place of human sacrifice, still being practised in Yoruba land for their oros (deities), in your ifa morality?

Oro is totally different from IFA. Ifa is the totally of the message revealed through Orunmila to bring solutions to the problems of mankind. so, dont commingle oro with IFA.


No one should really be in the dark to the fact that all the authors (so called authorities) of the ifa literatures of today are most of the very very recent age who are fighting a purely cultural battle and not necessarily a battle for the TRUTH.

I agree that some peolple may be fighting a cultural battle but there are large knowledge numbers whose championing is for the establishment of the truth in IFA. Let me also make it known to you the age of most of the perpetrators of world religions today are recent compared to the age of the religion they are perpetrating. So , this is not common to Ifa alone.

I am looking forward to all the possible verbal attacks. _{I AM A NIGERIAN and YORUBA}

No verbal assaults, misconceptions are meant to be corrected.

do you pull the hair on your head with your hand? if the answer is yes, then cut your hair low always especially if you are a male so that there is no hair to pull. you will soon get used to not pulling your hair again.

I am playing CHICKEN INVADERS!

Is anybody playing the game?

EJI OGBE

this is the first chapter of the IFA chapters. it tells alot about how Olodumare created the universe from Ifa's perspective. It also tells alot about Orunmila and his assignment to human beings. eji-ogbe is generally regarded as the father of other chapters. It also says alot about destiny and also emphasizes the roles of wifes on husbands success' or failures and also mentions children as being important.

I think nigerian gloomy economy has put a high percentage our women into alot of calamities in the name of education.

I tell you is not only ARISTOS that have taken a good sample of our brides-to-be in the name of getting a mean of survival. many PROFESSORS and LECTURERS have also contributed considerably in devalueing our tomorrow's wives in the name of awarding good grades.

These girls generally believe getting a degree is automatic to making it in life only to be faced with problems of unemployment after graduation and the harassment continues with employers.

Invariably, many ladies become used to using this "power of the buttom" to find their ways and the process continues. Really, I believe self dignity is important while not jeopardising eduaction. mind you, the education doesnt necessarily have to formal or a degree education.

11 men of MAN U versus 11 boys of ARSENAL.

pappy2000:
I think Obasanjo is the greatest Nigerian living

I agree with you. We might not like his style of governance but he is the greatest living nigerian.

[quote author=w_agbaje link=topic=271245.msg3859987#msg3859987 date=1242178431]I have discovered who is a real man of God, sent, used and supported by God is the one that can link you with God, because a real man of God should be able to see the other side. The man I know that I can call a man of God is Prophet T.B. Joshua of The Synagogue Church. In fact, God works for him, through him and in him performing miracles, healing, deliverance and prophecy. If people from all around the world have visited the church to see the man of God, you people should go there-o or be watching his channel, Emmanuel TV Nigeria, let us be praying for this man, we can't affor to lose him.Well done, Sir! We all love you!!![/quote]I expext you to mention the attributes we should watch out for to know a man of God or how to watch those attributes rather than being too specific about a particular man of God.

Are there no other REAL supporter again in the whole wide world. if yes, I will remain the only real fan of my team till you come and join me.

banom:
Intresting, are saying that pastor Adeboye is the nigerian man of god that met the criterias i listed ?

No, but what you quoted in your response as a typical nigerian man of God are what you listed in your thread as the sins of pastor Adeboye

banom:
In Nigeria, A man of God is a person who proclaimed himself as from God, preaches about God,collects poor peoples money and lord himself over them, tell alot of lies, blocks peoples movement every month, buy private Jet, uses God to promote one tribe over others,prays and collaborates with devilish politicians, makes false prophecies,answers Daddy G.O, and finally does stage manipulated miracles.

But in real sense, a man of God is a person made of God's image and likeness, in other word, a Godly man.

Do you have a case against pastor Adeboye?

How do you know a man is a man of God.

I am a REAL MADRID hardcore fan. I still believe my club will still rule the world again despite the present not-too-brilliant performances. Dont feel shy to identify with this great club if you are a fan. Our club will rule again.

the heart of naijababe2

mightlove:
I am getting married soon and would not want to get pregnant until at least 6 months into the marriage.
What would you advice that i use to prevent me from being getting pregnant during that period.i would want a method that wouldnt make it difficult for me to get pregant when i finally decide to start having babies.
can i have your suggestions, please?

then delay your wedding till you are ready.

I still expect to hear Islamic view about this topic.

foye57:
[b]i stopped being a fan of mrs re-branding since she agreed to take up ministerial job. [/b]And as usual she's exhibiting her usual traits - HYPING. this is the same thing she did in NAFDAC. she did work but she over-hyped her work.

our dear madam NAFDAC is different from this present madam rebranding. I think People Defrauding Party has first rebranded her into a full blown politician and the result is what we are seeing. May God help Nigeria.

9ja4eva:
True but needs to be soon

It may be sooner than we expect.

CHAIN REACTION

when you sit on time bomb, you only need time to detonate