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Ngwakwe: Why can't these all knowing Economists raise alarm over the Borrowing Escapades of the Lagos State Government.

It is appalling that while these intellectuals criticize the Government of GEJ in debt management the same people hails Lagos State Government whom if left unchecked will bankrupt the Nations Commercial Capital.

....and future generations of unborn RESIDENTS of Lagos who will bear the brunt of higher tax burdens that is stolen steadily by Fashola and his oga on the top, ex-omo-iyaloja now baba-iyaloja of Lagos

take dat: @Anonimi, so recovering N14billion out of N232billion almost a year after is something to rejoice over? How many PPPRA officials have been sacked and are they facing prosecution? How come we so much cherish mediocrity in this country?

Kindly point out to me where I said it was "something to rejoice over" NOW otherwise as they say in weddings keep your peace forever.

I sincerely hope it is not a problem related to limitations in English language comprehension skills.
#JustAsking.

Gbawe: The fuel subsidy scam showed the world, beyond any doubt, what GEJ is.

Unlike in Nigeria where sentiments and ethnocentric/religious/sectional bias continue to hold Nigerians hostage, others can put two and two together to note that it is only the FG (controlled by GEJ) and the NNPC (headed by Allison-Madueke) authorised to issue marketers licence. If both meant the best for Nigeria, why were licences issued literally to roadside mechanics who did not even own a bicycle to transport fuel with or a barrel to store oil in?

It is such crude and openly anti-Nation scamming, perpetrated by those meant to lead the nation forward, that has shocked many leaders in Countries where they are not hostages to bias and sentiments!!! Today, those leaders are doing away with diplomatic decorum to openly condemn GEJ !!!!

Till today Cameron, the Prime Minister who dealt with UK rioters in days, continues to see GEJ dragging his feet over scammers who would have brought Nigeria to her knees if Saraki had not blown the whistle.

In your excitement to malign the steady, albeit slow progress of Jonathan's administration, you deliberately or mistakenly missed out on the news bit below:

Nigeria: Minister Reports on Subsidy Recovery

Nigeria's Finance minister, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, has revealed that more than N14bn in fuel subsidy payments have been recovered by the Government since it began auditing funds disbursed under the scheme.


Presenting the mid-term report on President Goodluck Jonathan's Transformation Agenda, which summarises the government's achievement over the past two years, Okonjo-Iweala said that irregularities and fraud in the subsidy scheme, uncovered in April 2012, revealed a culture of mismanagement and corruption at the core of Nigeria's government agencies and oil marketers that has prevented the government from being able to fully deregulate the downstream sector.

However, she added, the Government is taking steps to recover funds disbursed under false pretence. "We audited N1tr in the subsidy and found N232bn questionable. So far we have recovered about N14bn. We have tightened the payment process," said Okonjo-Iweala.

Irregularities in the fuel subsidy scheme were discovered in a major probe by a committee from the House of Representatives last April. The Government has introduced a new system, whereby oil marketers must now go through a two-step audit claim before payment of subsidies is made.
Goodluck Jonathan's administration is eager to remove fuel subsidies, arguing that they are a drain on the public purse.

Petrolworld

Governance nor be by gra gra media-friendly propaganda hype without LONG LASTING effective results. That is why POLICY matters more than the launching of recycled yoyo projects like toys for babies.

Panda (fake) may shine more than the original jewelry at the beginning. The panda go don fade long time while the original still dey shine dey go!!!

rozayx5: speak for yourself Bro too lame an excuse to hide Fashola's elitist Government
Uyo has one of the Best drainage system's in Nigeria being constructed By Julius Berger

When will se start to look beyond SIMPLY construction of gutters and also EMPHASISE regular cleaning and clearing of the debris that accumulates every day
I think I have only seen Calabar doing a good job of that when PDP's Donald Duke was in charge as governor.

Ada t'o mu sansan k'ole san oko fun ara re - a sharp cutlass can not cut the grass all by itself.
MAINTENANCE is very necessary.

As long as Fashola, SAN is struggling with the FG to build and toll Airport road as well other federal roads rather than focus on his state roads and ENCOURAGE his fellow ACN chairmen and councillors of LGAs to clean up guitters REGULARLY and efficiently on a daily basis during the rainy season as well as dry season.

That should involve workers paid the minimum wage of 18k not the wuru wuru, mago mago "empowerment" of 8k-10k.
Abi nor be so dem dey do am for the obodo oyinbo UK wey dem ACN people dey like yarn sey there dem dey chill

Aderostock: Eko Atlantic was only telling you that Awolowo had paid the price and sacrificed for us to know the importance of education to the people of southwest earlier before any ethnic group. so we dnt need any yeye free education at the tertiary level which can't be sustained with the current arrangement in Nigeria unless we go back to regional govt.

Why are you confusing yourself by wrapping yourself into more falsehood. Dancing yahooze to the music of azonto is not a very good idea, I must advise you.
Did Awolowo have "any yeye" free tertiary education

Lawmaker’s scholarship lifts 75 pupils

The lawmaker representing Lagos East in the Senate, Gbenga Ashafa, has charged parents to support their children’s education to the tertiary level. Ashafa made the charge in Epe last weekend during the presentation of scholarships to 75 indigent pupils in Ikosi-Ejirin Local Council Development Area (LCDA).

The pupils, drawn from various public schools, were selected by the Gbenga Ashafa Educational Enhancement Programme.

Congratulating the beneficiaries, the lawmaker told the pupils to make judicious use of the grants.

He urged the parents to see education as a potent tool for development and always support their wards’ quest for it. He added that the programme is aimed and sustaining pupils’ interest in education.

He said: “Today’s occasion serves as a pilot project for the indigent students in public schools throughout the Lagos East senatorial district. Support for education has always been an integral part of our programmes.

“Under this scheme, a lot of success has been recorded. In the last three months, over 10,000 copies of writing materials, mathematical sets and rain coats were distributed throughout schools in my senatorial district. This is not to mention the different categories of scholarships and various financial assistances, all to keep the interest of our children in education.”

The chairman of the Gbenga Ashafa Educational Enhancement Programme in the local government, Oba Ganiu Aderibigbe, Alayandelu of Odo Ayandelu, thanked the lawmaker for the gesture.

“We thank our amiable Senator Ashafa for this initiative. Without this scholarship, the implication would have been to have these children out of schools without completing their studies, which has the potential to constitute nuisance in our community,” he said.

The beneficiaries, who were indigenes and non-indigenes of Lagos State, were selected across communities in the LCDA. One of them, Abraham Mercy, a Primary 5 pupil of Anglican Primary School, Ajebo, said she almost stopped schooling when her parents could not afford to pay. She appreciated the senator’s gesture, saying: “Thank you sir, Senator Ashafa, for this scholarship; I will go back to complete primary school.”

At the programme were the LCDA chairman, Hon. Segun Adetoba, leader of Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) in Epe division, Chief Lanre Rasaq, Commissioner II in Lagos State Civil Service, Mr Wasiu Odeyemi, traditional rulers from Ikorodu, Epe, Agbowa and Ikosi-Ejirin among others.

The Nation

Gbawe: Hs actions makes no sense as they are the sort unseen before and also because they always seem to be the direct opposite of what is required to deliver solutions. We can all remember that they made similar denial noise trying to quell rumblings about the subsidy scam from many voices that were insisting that Nigeria was being scammed blind until Senator Bukola Saraki officially set things in motion to reveal that GEJ, Allison-Madueke and all their affiliates had been secretly orchestrating the mother of all theft against Nigeria. They are at it again and the signs are obvious.

Our elders say:

Eni ba ma da aso fun ni, ti orun re ni a koko nwo - when person promise us sey im go give us cloth, we go first look the dress wey im sef dey wear.

- Has SINator Bukola Saraki refunded all the depositors, including dying pensioners, of Societe Generale Bank that he and his father liquidated to fund his campaign to be governor and his sister to be SINator?
-Has SINator Saraki accounted for the billions he received as Kwara state governor every year for 8 years with very little to show for it?
- Does SINator Saraki collect N29 million monthly in defiance of RMAFC recommendations despite that workers for the SAME government are paid 18k minimum wage?
- How many bills have SINator Saraki sponsored in the past two years and what is their status? Abi he is no longer a law maker?

I can understand that it must be painful for him to see Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan PERFORMING and DELIVERING on his electioneering promise to turn Nigeria's fortune around despite the security challenges posed by Saraki's northern brothers.
He must imagine and be really missing how much of OUR money he could steal if he were the president as he did in Kwara state for 8 years!!!

mitwitdot: In all fairness, I think this administration is investing in visible capital projects but the problem of graft seems to undermine their efforts. Considering the huge recurrent expenditure, it only makes sense to burrow money to finance this capital projects to benefit the masses. Fashola is employing the same tactics in Lagos

I am really surprised that the ACN crowd of follow, follow conmen never give you e-slap to harrass and intimidate you for bringing their "exemplary" Fashola into the conversation
Quite a miracle!

@OP,

It should be obvious to you that some people feel cheated by being left out of the pipeline security contract. When we yorubas start growing cocoa and contributing as much as oil does to our national GDP, forex, revenue etc we can request cocoa plantation security contract.
How much of the cocoa revenue did we share with the Niger Delta people in the 60s?
We are currently just behaving like a bunch of shameless parasites!
Understood

Maybe Fashola should invest himself in rehabilitating the many PUBLIC dilapidated secondary schools and ENCOURAGE the chairmen of the LGAs who are all under ACN to also rehabilitate primary schools.
Same goes for state and LGA feeder roads.

Person wey never finish im own assignment dey do longer throat for another person work.
All because of toll gate money and NOT because of the residents welfare.
Haba!!!
Dat wan na real olojukokoro.
Maybe the man nor hear say:

Thou shalt not COVET.

Greed and avarice nor good sam, sam!!!

plaindealer: Lagos state's IGR is N20 Billion and not N30 Billion.

N30 Billion is what they end up with after adding the N10 Billion monthly allocation.

How do you even make valid points with flawed and bogus facts.?

Is it my MATHEMATICS that is "flawed and bogus" or your idol, Fashola's ARITHMETIC that is crooked

Lagos Assembly Approves 499.105bn as 2013 Budget

This Day for more.

30 X 12 = 360.
499 - 360 = 130 GAP.


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Can you tell us where the 130 billion is coming from and/or how the budgetary GAP will be filled

Who compares Lagos with a state like Akwa ibom? The number of school kids in Lagos is probably same with the entire population of Akwa Ibom and yet even with less money than Akwa Ibom, Lagos state still managed to build new schools and invest more in education that akwa ibom where the governor is yet to build one single school.

Omo ti ko ba de oko baba elomiran ri a ni oko baba ohun ni o tobi ju - pikin wey never reach another person farm go dey yarn sey na im papa farm big pass.

Travel out of your comfort zone and reflect.
#FriendlyAdvice.

Aderostock: Am sorry, you need to stop all this nonsense you are spewing. Lagos Govt. provides free education for all except at the tertiary schools. same goes to all southwest states. so you except Fashola to provide free education to over 4million kids in Lagos? you must be joking. the 40 billion naira monthly allocation and IGR are being used to build standard infrastructures, pay salaries of the largest civil servants in Nigeria after the FG and also being used to maintain infrastructures.

What is it with ACN and their affinity to LIES

Eko Atlantic: Those days of free education are over in SW. Free education was implemented by Awolowo to encourage Yorubas to study then, while other regions were still in stone age. Yorubas don't need encouragement anyone because every family knows the importance of education.

https://www.nairaland.com/1311395/opon-imo-launched-osun-today/6#16043617

As propaganda and hypocrisy is no longer enough na so una dey add lie, lie join am.
Na wa for una ph!

babaolofin: Illiteracy, ignorance and intellectual blindness can lead to an uniformed postings which often make objective minded people to forget front page issues on Nairaland. Having said that, what do you want fashola to do about millions of children on the streets of Lagos. Lagos is part of Nigeria, a Nigerian does not require visa before entering Lagos, millions of people come to Lagos weekly from all over Nigeria and other Africa countries. The rate of movement in and out of Lagos has never been equal. In most interstate motor parks, the shout of Lagos, Lagos is what you will be hearing all over Nigeria to cotonou, accra, abidjan etc. Even flight inbound and outbound lagos is the highest.

Items in exclusive list of the constitution are under GEJ power. If masses are not hungry most of the liabilities Lagos is carrying will not be there. Some people will be in their state or villages instead of roaming the streets of Lagos.

What exactly are you blabbing about
Does Fashola not collect N30 billion monthly as IGR from all these "movement in and out of Lagos"?
Did you hear that Akwa Ibom, under PDP's Akpabio gives free and COMPULSORY education to ALL children in the state irrespective of whether they are indigenes or not?
Did Awolowo, Jakande and the other UPN governors DISCRIMINATE against non-idigenes when they gave free education 60 & 30 years ago respectively?
Is children's education at primary, vocational and secondary level in the "exclusive list of the constitution" to be "under GEJ power"?
Now, who is suffering from "illiteracy, ignorance and intellectual blindness"
If Fashola is clueless about providing adequate education for Lagos children he should follow Pope Benedict'e example- QUIT!!!

I can't see any pictures.

What is the illiteracy rate of children in Kogi state
What is the cut-off score for Kogi in the Unity school exam?
How many bills has Senator Smart Adeyemi sponsored to completion as per his core duty of law making
Is he also collecting N29 million monthly while civil servants working for the SAME government are paid 18k minimum wage?

Aderostock: I know when it comes to celebrate mediocrity. you re one of a few here. kano airport is a disgrace not fit to be called local airport not to talk of international. the only world class local airport in Nigeria is MMA2 built by Obasanjo even the so called remodelled GAT in Lagos cannot withstand it.

Don't try to change the subject.
This is not about celebrating medicrity or not.
It is about the blatant HYPOCRISY of the crooks and scammers gathered together in the Association of Conmen in Nigeria.

[quote author=~Bluetooth]They are spending billions renovating buildings when there over 10 million children out of school,several youths without employment or stable source of livelihood,extreme poverty,insecurity everywhere caused by societal dysfunction which metmorphosed into kidnapping,armed robbery among others.

Nigeria problems isn't about renovating airport but rehabilitating the larger masses who are the real owner of government but left out to participate in the workings of government.

This is nothing but a waste of fund and misplaced priority ![/quote]You obviously forgot about 10 million children out of school and MISPLACED PRIORITY when you wrote just two days ago on the thread that Fashola BEGINS Lekki airport and seaport:

[quote author=~Bluetooth]"Fashola" should be a subject to be study in Nigerian universities !

https://www.nairaland.com/1344968/construction-seaport-airport-begins-lekki/2#16592884[/quote]Can we conclude that your sympathy for the out-of-school children is FAKE
Can we go further and use your analogy to say GEJ should be a subject to be study (sic) in Nigerian universities for COMPLETING the rehabilitation of many airports in the country
SMH!!!

[quote author=~Bluetooth]They are spending billions renovating buildings when there over 10 million children out of school,several youths without employment or stable source of livelihood,extreme poverty,insecurity everywhere caused by societal dysfunction which metmorphosed into kidnapping,armed robbery among others.

Nigeria problems isn't about renovating airport but rehabilitating the larger masses who are the real owner of government but left out to participate in the workings of government.

This is nothing but a waste of fund and misplaced priority ![/quote]Gosh, see who's talking!
What shameless HYPOCRISY!!!
Did the ACN not tell us that the days of free and COMPULSORY education for our children are over
Or you forgot that primary (LGAs), vocational and secondary (states) education is NOT the responsibility of the federal government.
I hope for your sake that you did not post this out of your ignorance of the different responsibility of each tier of government in education.

[quote author=~Bluetooth]But the state Chairman of the ruling party, Mr. Biyi Adelowo, in a statement, on Wednesday, described the incident as “a heated argument where nobody died like the PDP meeting in Edunabon last Sunday.”

You mean vote like the PDP where people died ? Stop acting like PDP is better than ACN,bloody hypocrite ![/quote]I guess we should start singing Hallellujah and Alhamdulilahi because na only fight dem fight, persin nor die. Nor be so
We go dey here remind you when dem start killing themselves as they did for the young man who wanted to decamp in Ondo or was it Ekiti some months back.
Small time heated argument go turn heated exchange of gunfire.
I think sey bullet sef na heat be the principle.
Maybe oga Chairman dey take style tell us of the next level of dem "heated argument".
What do you think

toshmann: Yes but not by inviting the military to kick out a democratically elected govt.

Democracy should have means through which poor govts are removed from office without military intervention.

I beleive it was JFK, a democrat, who said:

Those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent change inevitable.

Morsi closed the avenues for democratic change and was playing tin-god Pharaoh.
The people did not invite the military. The military had to rescue the country from slipping into further chaos.
Moreover it is the equivalent of their Chief Justice who is now heading a TRANSITIONAL government that will hold elections later.

stebell: Never knew dis party still exist. Tot they sublime into APC. Eko Ile, ur state and its party are on fire O°˚˚˚ come and justify de fight.

Maybe they have problems sharing posts in APC hence they continue the sharing at ACN level.
Bunch of propaganda fuelled "progressive" scammers.

A parley called by the leadership of Action Congress of Nigeria in Ifon community of Osun State ended in a free-for-all following a disagreement over the sharing of elective posts among members of the locality.

Why can't they vote like all DEMOCRATIC groups do for elective posts

take dat: Lesson: A democratically-elected leader is illegitimate, the rule of the mob is sacrosanct

Should we take the above, which aligns with Tinubu's political philosophy of using thugs and touts even against late Gani Fawehinmi or should we take this one below:

take dat: What Nigeria need is neither mob action nor military coup but political education to elect the right leaders and make them accountable! What distinguishes constitutional democracy from mob action is that orderly processes are followed!

I can agree with the bit about political education.
However, please note that what happened in Egypt is NOT mob action. You had committed people, including many middle class professionals telling Morsi he OVERSTEPPED by trying to play DICTATOR Pharaoh.
When you win elections you should learn to take into consideration the views of ALL your compatriots especially when you did not have a landslide.

African leaders have to take note as it will be our turn some years down the line.
Western Europe started theirs a few centuries back and Eastern Europe some 30 years ago. Maybe Asia will have a taste first before Africa, who knows?
You cannot hold the people enslaved FOREVER!!!

aieromon: You should know Adolor drainage is supposed to flow into the expressway. You asked for examples and I gave you more than enough. All these roads are supposed to empty their contents into the expressway drainage. Unfortunately, the Lagos Ugbowo expressway has a very shallow drainage system and can't accomodate the flood so it spills onto the road. The governor has realised this and is widening the road to make room for a BIGGER drainage system.

All I'm saying is put an adequate drainage system. If it were adequate,it is expected that the flood should drain faster than it does.

Whether you lived in Benin is nothing compared to the on the spot assessment of a road I passed a few hours ago.

Thanks.

I have no problem with the need for bigger drainage.
However, you obviously STILL believe as most Nigerians do that once the construction is done no need to EMPHASISE regular & continuous maintenance.

I remember a few years ago Julius Berger did fantastic work on the Mile2-Oshodi express way complete with very big drainage. No clearing and maintenance of the gutters and the road gets flooded every year resulting in big and bigger potholes until we need to re-award a contract for rebuilding the road and drainage.
I do not think this is the way to spend our money!!!

Rossikk: Do you know the US annual murder and burglary rate? If you did, you wouldn't be so certain about their 'safety'.

And do you know the Nigerian annual murder and burglary rate as a ratio to the country's population?
I think the first question should really be:
Do we have reliable statistics of annual murder and burglary in our dear country, Nigeria

Maybe in the absence of such COMPARABLE statistics we can use some alternative comparatives such as number of Americans queueing up at the Nigerian embassy and consul in Washington DC and New York COMPARED to the number of Nigerians doing the same at the US embassy & consul in Abuja and Lagos.
Further we can COMPARE how many Americans once they get into Nigeria are trying everything possible to become permanent residents and citizens as opposed to Nigerians who are "lucky" to find their way into "God's own country".

I always try to avoid self deception.
It hinders progress!!!

aieromon: Go and find out why Adolor Road still remains flooded.

Is Adolor Road the only road that is flooded in Benin City?
BTW, this thread is about Ugbowo Road to be precise and you said BUILD bigger gutters to "solve this problem once and for all."

I said it goes beyond simply building new bigger gutters.
Do you still hold on to your simplistic position or do you think my additional suggestion is also valid
I hope you are able to answer in a straight forward manner.

aieromon: If you've been to Benin,you will know that gutters are either non existent or very shallow. Benin receives a large amount of rainfall every year. This has nothing to do with clogging of non existent drainages.

I lived in Benin for some years and visited once in a while thereafter until recently.
Wherr did you see that drainages are NON EXISTENT in Benin City?
Are you holding on to your position that we should build big gutters and the problem is fixed? Datsall

Ruq: And how safe her Americans without fences ?

Safer than Nigerians with our high rise fences or quasi prison walls.
Do you think otherwise

aieromon: Bobs see Uwasota junction!!

That road needs massive drainage gutters to solve this problem once and for all.

Benin rain na helele. It can choose to fall for 7 days non stop.

Sorry but simply CONSTRUCTING the gutter won't solve the problem. This type of attitude is the core of our problem.
Build & forget, the rest will take care of itself!
I am almost certain most cities in Nigeria were not having flood problems before independence and maybe till 1973 when Murtala and Objoke started their quota system and federal character, which ruined the civil service structure.
What is needed BEYOND construction is REGULAR daily cleaning of the gutters during the dry season as well as during the rainy season coupled with heavy fines for dropping things on the road.
Go and read about Singapore's devemopment!!!

dominique: Is it when the person is at the point of death at the mercy of health centre nurses that he's referred to general hospital? For Fashola to have said this, it means plans to refurbish the health centres are underway. A lot of these primary health centers understaffed and underequipped, not a place anybdy would want to go for ante-natal and delivery imo.

It is not the state's responsibility to take care of PHCs. That is the function of LGAs. The states cater for general hospitals.

Do you know there is a Supervisory Councillor for Health in each LGA?
What do you think they are supposed to do

Jarus: The banking sector appears locked now, I agree.

Sometimes, when I read those guys stories, I feel like resigning and go float my own outfit, but fear go catch me

Honestly, something keeps telling me I can operate a successful consultancy, based chei, the risk dey fear me. A lot of things with this job one does: guaranteed salary, free medical for one and family, bonuses, less stress compared to when the business is yours etc. The stake is just too high.

There you have it-the difference between Excellent and Outstanding.
Let us not forget the role of opportunity.
BTW someone defined luck as Opportunity + Preparation = Luck.
We all have our different paths in life = E ma wo ago alago sise.

Please note that nothing, no sector including banking, is locked. Those who can take the risk will find a way around and create their own opportunity.

Whose responsibility is it to keep the drainage REGULARLY clean so that rain water can flow freely?
The state or the federal government
Should comrade governor not employ scores of people with supervisors and managers to ensure this is done every day

Yet we go dey blame Jonathan for unemployment!
Interesting!!!

GboyegaD: Your own better now. You never see where people dey get gate to enter their flats and their enterance sef na gate before the door?

The wan wey fear me pass na people wey dey put gate for inside dem house at the staircase for go upstairs.
Chei, we don too like suffer ourselves rather than do the RIGHT THING- prevent the conditions for high insecurity!!!

greatgeo: Does the fence really protect us? Cos if a thief really want to kill u they will do it with or without a fence.some fence have d same height as d house na wa o kia

Great question.
The realisation of the futility of physical security measures is what leads other societies to understand that the most profitable SELFISHNESS is the one that is SELFLESS.
A paradox that can be understood by deep reflection.
How many developed country do NOT have free and COMPULSORY education for ALL children
How many of the fast developing South East Asian countries do NOT have free and COMPUSLORY education for ALL children?
How many of the developed countries ensure workers are paid well and promptly RELATIVE to political office holders and political jobbers

but sha only God can gaurantee total protection.

Na why you come spoil your post with the above that MAY lead those who are "poor in the spirit" to beleive they have nothing to do/ no meaningful action and personal inititiative to take other than SIMPLY wait for God to protect them.