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Ohanaeze has no locus standi to query someone they did not appoint and cannot sack. All their noise na effigy!

Rather they should tell all their Igbo senators and Reps in the NASS to move a motion to:

1. investigate the donation.
2. recommend that SLS refunds the money and other sanctions including his sack.
3. revise relevant clauses of the CBN Act that this religious and ethnic bigot may have relied on in donating OUR money.

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As a fellow human being I wish him speedy recovery IF he is indeed sick. I was only thinking yesterday that the Jagaban has been very unusually quiet in these turbulent times. Maybe that is why Fashola's resident NL propagandist- Eko Ile has been very quiet also.

However it is a sad commentary on what he stands for (or rather does not stand for) if after 13 years of "progressive" governance with mega-billions raised from long-suffering residents of Lagos in taxes, levies, fines, toll fees etc supposedly to be invested in social infrastructures he has to be flown abroad.

Did the man not INSTRUCT his Lagos sattelite chief to sack striking doctors a year or so ago! Only to reverse himself, presumably due to approaching elections. Hopefully he will be treated "abroad" by some Nigerian doctors and other medical professionals who ran away from the country due to inappropriate policies and stealing by himself, other politicians and elites over the years. What befitting irony that would be

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sad end to a bright light.

i hope Majek Fashek's entourage has taken ggod note as well others having problems with drugs.

Stay clean!!!

mikeansy:
does the CBN answer to anybody at all?

Theoretically the CBN governor can be fired by the President who appointed him but I would imagine that this case does not reach the threshhold for sacking him outright, given Nigeria's current geo-political configuration. Moreover we are over-focused on the president leaving other political office holders to RECEIVE (as opposed to earn) mega millions for doing absolutely nothing.
The more effective thing would be to have the opposition (?) senators and Reps in NASS lead the charge to discredit the PDP administration and force clueless Joe to act. However that is unlikely to happen with those loafer SINators and (mis)Representatives getting a free ride from their constituents most of whom don't even know them.

psalmizt:
GBAM
There 's no point rationalising whether there was a fair exchange or not, Bringing up such issue is openly supporting a wrong because you feel like another wrong was committed sometime back.
On the old testament copying, quick correction, it is not verbatim, they modified the stories, read Noah (Nuh) , or Joseph (yusuf), I know this is not a religious page but I had to point that out to you,

Firstly, thanks for pointing out the verbatim copying matter. I should have used ALMOST verbatim.

I did not openly support by rationalising the payment for parking space. All I pointed out was that the guy was providing insufficient information to conclude if the payment was for commensurate value. I hope you get my point better now?

Ddaji:
@anonimi.Mts, over N100Million to a small parking space and you are talking of value for money.Abeg give better reason to depend your christian bigot soludu.The money is backdoor donation to CAN.

You did not give the size of the parking space in m² and what the going rate for similar space is. Or did you?
Moreover, the question of whether the buyer and seller had a fair exchange of value for money is very subjective, as we have different appreciation of specific goods and services. I imagine you would be outraged that our ancestors sold their brothers and sisters into slavery to the white man for mirror, lousy clothing items, guns, gunpowder etc. Just like the brothers of Joseph sold him into slavery to Arabs in Egypt for a pittance as recorded in the Bible and most likely the Koran, which copies the Old Testament verbatim.

Kudos to the SSS for a very good job: re-arresting the escaped convict within one month!

I hope they grill him properly and very quickly charge him to court for the murder of all those killed by BH to date as well as being accessory to murder. Let's hope the judge will give him speedy trial and sentence him to deserved death by hanging. He can follow his mentor saddam Hussein of Iraq who promised the "mother of all wars" but was fished out of a rat-hole with American cookies and chocolate

Ddaji:
How much CAN was collecting during soludu's time as CBN Gov.in the name using christian centre as CBN [size=13pt]parking space[/size],despite the fact there is enought parking space in the CBN premises .morethan N100 million annually.what do call that?

Was there [size=13pt]value (service/product)[/size] received by the CBN for the payment made by Soludo?

What value has the CBN received for this =N=100 million of OUR money paid ONLY to Kano state victims of BH

bamosagie:
The man hail from Kano, a pure coincidence.

Coincidence as in SLS did not know he is from kano state when he made the donation from OUR money
Care to explain further please?

The constitutional right of CBN to donate, I don't know. But you definitely can't question the moral right of the CBN to do so.

It would seem from the extracts of the CBN Act (?) on Community Programmes there may be a legal basis for what SLS did. However the fact that he ONLY donated such a humonguous amount to ONLY victims in his own state is morally and ethically wrong.
Since it may be difficult to prosecute him on the basis of the current CBN Act (?) it would be more appropriate for fellow citizens to petition their NASS Senators and Representatives seeking:

1.  an enquiry into the alleged donation
2. compel SLS to refund the money
3. amend the CBN Act (?) to make it difficult for such bigoted donations to occur anymore.

bamosagie:
Point is SLS have no right to [size=13pt]donate tax payers[/size] money to any state, Moslem or Christian. It is about by professionalism, SLS can donate 100 billion naira of his own money to boko haram if he so wish & it will be nobody's business

Thank you for saying it very nicely.
I hope clueless, cassava-bread-eating Joe will sack the imam in CBN for this brazen act of bigotry.

How much did the CBN donate to the Plateau state government for the victims of cattle rearers attacks

Did anyone hear of the huge sum that Sanusi's CBN donated to victims of BH xmas day attack wgo were recently buried in Anambra state

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Katsumoto:
Of what use is a great product if it doesn't reach a high percentage of your target market?

This same argument goes on forever about jazz and classical music. A great product will always reach a high percentage of its target market, one way or the other, sooner or later.

zmoni:
There is a place in Sierra-Leone called Wellington, most of the inhabitants i believed are descendants of Ijesa, Ekiti and Ondo, those folk always say that their town is the birth place of the group or organization called" Ekitiparapo".

You generally have a lot of Saro people who answer Yoruba names but the younger ones don't know the meaning. Banana Island, which is not far from the capital, Freetown still has direct descendants of slaves who speak some Yoruba phrases till a few years ago when I was lucky to visit the island.

OAM4J:
There is no need to have History section when there is a Culture section. I doubt that request will be granted. So don't waste your time.

It should not be a waste of time.
i second the request and hope it will be carefully and positively considered by Seun either as a completely separate section or as a mini-section under culture, at the least.

ypzilanti:
^^^Regardless what you government apologists think, the ACN serves a purpose as the only powerful opposition party in Nigeria. Government always needs someone to keep it on its toes, even in more developed climes where they are generally more atunned to the needs of the people.

Abegi leave those in the Association of Conmen in Nigeria out of all these. At least with PDP you know clearly they are non-performers. Not so with ACN and their plenty, plenty media hype and propaganda on future plans as opposed to real action. A bit like Abacha (PDP) compared to Babangida (ACN).

By the way, which party is the powerful opposition to ACN in Tinubu's satellite southwest states
In short Nigerian politicians are currently as different as that between six and half a dozen.

Demdem:
Then simply ask him to shut up. he doesnt know how to talk.

I will agree with you on the bold part.
He surely needs to take serious lessons on how to communicate your thoughts precisely and minimising opportunities to be MISQUOTED out of context.

Tony Spike:
Ijaiye, with several other towns and villages, were completely destroyed and wiped out of the SW map by the long 16 years war. Infact, many of such settlements can no longer be precisely located again. The war policies of the Oyos and Ibadans back then involved destroying and plundering a settlement to the ground. The houses in such settlements were reduced to just a small pile and not just ordinary rubbles as in modern warfare.

Not quite so. We only need to have sharp business people sponsoring Nigerian academics- historians, linguists, archeologists etc- to do extensive research for subsequent commercial exploitation as museum objects, tourism sites, documentary film, books for kids etc. Those things will further reinforce pride in ourselves and our rich cultural heritage showing that we are BASICALLY no different from the old (European) and new (Chinese) colonial masters.
These initiatives were effectively killed by the military dictators who ruled us brutally with no regard for serious WHOLESOME education. Continued growth and deepening of OUR democracy may revive that.

It is so sad that most of the materials on Nigerian history is with the whites
Can you imagine very stupid Oyinlola buying for several millions of dollars artifacts that were originally excavated from various historic sites by an Australian

MP007:
wait a minute. you mentioned ijaiye as one of the towns that was completely wiped out due to the war. Are these the same ijaiye people in abeokuta? Because I remember once my late grandfather telling that the egba gave the ijaiye's that land when they fled the sub-b of the old oyo empire? Interesting connection perhaps

Yes. Very true. The Owus in Egbaland are also from Orile-Owu in Osun state.
Human history is that of migration. Those who claim to be indigenes only arrived the present location much earlier than those label settlers.

Did anyone already mention that these wars were also slave raiding adventures by Yorubas to sell their kits and kins to the white man. I understand that most of the slaves that passed through the Gore Island near Dakar in Senegal were Yorubas

So when we think the white people should apologise (as Pope John Paul II already did) we (Africans/Nigerians/Yorubas) should also remember to apologize to our distant cousins (slave descendants) in these other continents.

Has Abati released the list of the two delegations -one for Joe & the other for Patience- that went to Addis Ababa to celebrate the new AU house designed, built and financed by our new colonial masters- the Chinese. Simple thing way Sowore of Sharareporters bin ask and I'm come promise am longest time ago.
Until he does that all this gist about FOI and transparency is just that- gist.

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President Jonathan said: “Our greatest problem as a country is growing rate of unemployment. If [size=13pt]anybody can come up with policy[/size] and programme that will create jobs, definitely, the  government will embrace that person and will continue to encourage  that person.”

Someone should please remind fumbling cassava-bread-eating Joe that policy formulation and execution is the exclusive preserve of government not profit-making entrepreneurs like Dangote.

Btw, is Dangote not from Kano? How many primary schools and schorlaships has been giving to his people to encourage them to leave almajiri lifestyle?

President Goodluck Jonathan yesterday in Ibese, Yewa North local government area of Ogun State, said that his government is tired of hearing and reading stories of insecurity in the country, [size=13pt]hence his determination to get the country out of the various challenges that are facing it[/size].

The title of the thread is VERY misleading as it does not take into consideration the bold part above, which is the real essence of his being tired of the stories.
Can Mukina please be more fair in her role as moderator and OP? Hope that is not too much to ask.

I cannot see any mention of Ayatollah Brouhari's 53 suitcase wahala during the change of Naira.

No mention of his crime against humanity by killing young Nigerians based on a retroactive law.

Nothing on the N2.8 billion missing while he was Petroleum commissioner under Muritala & OBJ's military dictatorship

So much for disciplined, incorruptible, hypocritical religious bigot who has no qualms killing southern military officers & men in cold blood during the July 1966 counter-coup.

sheyguy:
I honestly don't think we need pictures, i visited bowen few weeks back and i can attest to the fact that lots of new roads av been constructed. U can easily tell they are newly constructed road mostly in the rural areas.

Bowen University wey dey for Iwo town na im you dey tell us sey you bin see RAMP Rural roads! Haba!!
Una softly softly dey take us for mumu ke

When you say constructed, I guess you mean past tense but the ONLY photo Gbawe has shown na road wey caterpiller just clear for inside bush dem never even scrape & grade am sef. Haba!!!

Gbawe:
Are you OK at all? Where did I "claim" credit for Aregbesola? I made it clear [size=13pt]Aregbesola[/size] lobbied to be part of RAMP and he has [size=13pt]worked well , better than others[/size], to the commendation of the World bank.

Why are you digging yourself further into this unsustainable lie and propaganda
Can you see how you continue to contradict yourself above? Abi make I help you again?
take my advice, tell your Association of Conmen in Nigeria (ACN) paymasters that the people don dey wise up to their wuruwuru politics and they should get to work to save their disintegrating house built on propaganda.

PHIPEX:
Its possible, its just a matter of time.

Can I take this as a promise?
I will definitely be looking forward to such trend analysis sometime in the near future.

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War Horse:
See same data on Excel spreadsheet - Graphic Presentation. download to view

Thanks War Horse for your user-friendly table. I have saved it for future reference.
May I suggest that you express each state/FG's total in =N= billion, million or '000 to even make your table look more sexy.
Cheers.

Sinju:
A more useful data will be to look at what the State and Federal governments actually spend on capital and recurrent expenditures at the end of each fiscal year.

To budget is one thing, To stick to the budget is another thing

One of my initial thoughts also.
But the OP's work is a good start at some form of meaningful comparison. It would be interesting to see how much is voted for the legislatures and governor's office in each of these states so we can also compare with the profligacy at the FG level.

Thanks for this analysis.
Any chance you could get Lagos budget since 1978 even without breakdown to capital vs recurrent?
That would be extra nice of you.

You can also have roses delivered to her by ordering online even for Naija sites in addition to e-card.
Happy Valentine in advance.

shymmex:
Some of the junkies on here just like to critique for the sake of it,

You've a got a buffoon of a President that hasn't executed a single PROJECT since he has been in office, yet you want to attack ACN

I don't hold any brief for wasteful fisherman Joe.
But the Association of Conmen in Nigeria (ACN)'s media scam is just too much. In case you missed it I am re-posting Gbawe's reference extract for you to meditate upon:

He said the programme was being implemented in conjunction with the Federal Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development, under the Federal Government’s Rural Access and Mobility Programme (RAMP).

The last time I checked cassava-bread-eating Joe was in charge at the federal level.
So much for your "junkies on here just like to critique for the sake of it"

Ahmed said the first phase of the project being handled by the World Bank at 60 million dollars, included construction and rehabilitation of 472 km rural roads and 132 rivers crossing in Kaduna, as well as construction of more than 474 km rural roads in Cross River.

He said the [size=13pt]implementation of RAMP in Kaduna and Cross River States[/size] had shown that given the right guidance and provision of appropriate implements, all the states of the federation could sufficiently address the challenges of rural transport infrastructure development and management.

Even your own reference has it that the programme you TRIED IN VAIN to claim credit for Aregberascal was implemented in "non-progressive" PDP states of Kaduna and Cross River.
Yet you still have the effontery to continue sustaining your media hype scam. As you rightly said this is the information age, so very difficult to sell us dummies.

He said the next stage of the programme would be implemented in Enugu, Niger, Adamawa and Osun States.

In case you missed it they are using future tense above there.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=866152.msg10157687#msg10157687 date=1328788221]The other states are on paper participating, but haven't actually had any roads constructed, right?

So how are they in the same category?

"Will" is very different from "already did", especially in Nigeria.[/quote]We are still waiting for your list of "already did" with verifiable costs of the construction.
Otherwise na tory una dey yarn!!!

Our mumu don do. Una hear?

Thanks Kobo for pointing out other "non-progressive" states that are participating in this scheme.
Leave the Association of Conmen in Nigeria (ACN) with their media hype over borrow-borrow-make-me-shine from oyinbo people a substantial part of which will probably end up in their personal accounts abroad.

Gbawe is yet to provide the list of roads repaired and at what cost under their "Phase 1" of the project. We day here day wait. Meanwhile the same Gbawe day make noise about facts.
Orisirisi gbaju e-  different types of scams

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