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Gbawe:
is it not crystal clear to all Nigerians, who work with facts on ground and shun sentiments, that ACN Governors are[b] better than those they replaced?[/b]

The above extract is why I say ACN is a bunch of conmen
why should we be restricted to comparing the performance of ACN in ACN controlled states and LGs to those whom they replaced? How about we go back to compare them with UPN governors who had much less money to spend and generated little or no IGR through shady taxes, levies, fines, vehicle licence plates etc You see why people are slowly realising that ACN is a Tax & Steal party? The mostly dullards and brutes in PDP are not that smart to tax the people more and give a few shine, shine projects to point to.

Does hatred of individuals. . .

I do not dispense my energy and emotions on worthless things like hatred, I am sure there are others who don't mind investing themselves in such. Btw, I don't need to hate Tinubu, he hates himself enough already- go figure!

Gbawe:
Why is it not passed when PDP has a clear majority in all houses and controls Nigeria's top 4 positions?

What was the role of ACN and Tinubu in securing Lagos and SW votes for Jonathan (and by extension VP Sambo) during the recent presdiential elections
How was Tambuwal elected Speaker of the House of Reps against the dictates of his own party, PDP? Did Tinubu and ACN play any part?
That accounts for 75% (3/4) of your top Nigeria positions.
I am sure Tinubu is too smart to not ensure adequate returns from his political investments in these three positions. Or is he?

Is it the ACN in control of the budget or providing ruinous central fiscal policies. . .?

What counter proposals did ACN make in the NASS to correct the anomalies you gleefully point out in the federal budget? Or their SINators and Reps are in Abuja only to collect their fat allowances to the detriment of struggling voters on N18,000 minimum wage?

What is Nigeria's rank in Africa for electricity Kw per capita

Can someone please do the maths:

PDP at the Federal level with INEC organised elections nationwide and "allowed" other parties win how many seats in NASS and state assemblies as well as president and governor?
ACN at Lagos state level with LASIEC organised elections and "allowed" other parties win how many LG seats and chairmen?

Na who dey do scientific rigging- thief wey dey call another person thief!!!

Why is ACN such a bad loser? Like the Liberian presidential contestant- Tubman.
ACN did not kick when they won in INEC organised elections in Lagos, Ondo, Osun, Ekiti, Oyo, Edo etc! They did not kick when Tinubu and Fashola led LASIEC to allot them all the LG seats in Lagos despite the Badagry Returning Offcier declaring PDP winner in the You Tube video:

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When will ACN be MATURE enough to congratulate the winner when their party has lost

He urged the government to divert such frivolous energy to urgent national problems like hunger, which is ravaging the land, insisting that the huge cost of prosecution could be used for productive ends.

Clever by half demagogue Tinubu at his best. Na the CCB/CCT wey no fit prepare dem case well well person go blame.
Make we ask Ashiwaju of Area Boys what his party ACN has done to address "urgent national problems like hunger" in its 12 years of administering Lagos state including eight years under Tinubu himself.
How about diverting the huge salaries and allowances of ACN Senators & Reps who are also part and parcel of the FG to this urgent hunger problem? The National Leader of the Association of Conmen in Nigeria (ACN) can actually start from the Lagos State executive & House of Assembly on his crusade to reduce the huge cost of governance in order to address hunger in the land.
Ewu bloody hypocrite playing to the gallery of his gullible crumb eaters!!!

Does anyone remember government's NITEL, its fixed telephones and 090 mobile phones? I am not sure it is still alive today.
Coincidentally David Mark was NITEL's supervising minister when he was a soldier and said that telephones are a luxury not meant for every Nigerian
Ten years after liberalisation of GSM and withdrawal of government's annual subsidy to NITEL are we worse off or better off in terms of availability and affordabilty as well as improvement to economic and social life?
The same thing will happen to petroleum marketing as is the case with GSM. Government has no business engaging in/subsidising any commercial venture. It should limit itself to creating the enabling environment and regulating the operators.

let the drama begin, they shld tell us those behind these crimes in names anyone can front with company name, who r those GEJ is afraid of?

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@ sheyguy,

I am a bit confused with your post above- The senate listed the company names but you say na fisherman Joe dey afraid to add the names of the owners of the companies. Haba
Btw, GEJ is the one pushing for the withdrawal of subsidies and the senators and Reps are resisting.
It is better to remove the subsidy for greater transparency and increased competition leading to BETTER pricing in the long run due to incentives for investing in refining locally.

Nigeria is fast  turning into a banana republic. The world is moving forward while Nigeria is moving backward.

What do you expect from ignorant, backward, unsophisticated and homophobic bigots? They wont pass bills to move Nigeria forward or help the common man, but they'll quickly pass bass to show the world how backward and homophobic they are.


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@ Eko Ile,

What was the contribution of ACN senators and Reps to this debate and how did they vote on the bill?

youngmonie:
I dont get this Nigeria Mentality , I f i workj hard for my money, start of my business, its doing very well, y cant I spend my money anyhow I want without people openning their mouth to say rubbish. (Not talking politicians now, even thoug few of them really had that money b4 they went into politics). And I beg to difffer on that part that says few hundreds. They are more wealthy people in Nigeria today than they were during objs first term in office and even during the military era. so all this rant about people buying diamonds and thing, I dont see anything wrong with it. IF YOUVE WORKED HARD FOR YOUR MONEY AND ITS LEGIT, BOI SPEND THAT CASH MAN!!!

Have you heard about Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation etc that donate money to their fellow human beings including many Nigerians?
At home, have you heard about Dangote, Fola Adeola etc charitable giving?
Awolowo could have focused on making millions as a highly successful businessman and lawyer rather than joining politics to lift up masses of his fellow Nigerians in the South West through free education, university scholarsgips, free health, rural development etc?
Let us not forget most UPN governors such as Bola Ige, Jakande, Ambrose Ali etc who dedicated themselves to taking Awo's uplifting work to the next level!
When one is contented with sorting himself and himself out alone he has to remember that at ALL times he would be placed in the context of his background. This OP article is written in that manner. Despite these few bling blingers, Nigeria remains one of the worst countries to live in going by the UN compiled Human Development Index of literacy, medicare, life expectancy etc! And these people are still Nigerians!!!
African-Americans are slowly waking up to that reality and getting more involved in targeted donations to uplift their fellow blacks. When will black Africans wake up to this necessity
I sincerely hope you are not too young to appreciate these facts.

oga Jona has to go beyond show just for show sake.
I hope he does not eat imported rice or eat/drink other imported food/juice/beer/liauor etc.
Btw, he should declare how much savings his new personal policy of patronising local products will be made to the multi-million naira Aso Rock food budget.
We are waiting to hear the savings projection from Abati. Until then his gesture will be considered a joke on us.

the average nigerian is definitely not benefitting from fuel subsidy compared to the very few petroleum importers and dealers.
Btw, why are so many Nigerians queuing up in front of British, Scandinavian and American embassies to go and live there even illegally if possible despite their fuel not beiung subsidised
Why are there not so many Nigerians queuing up to go to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE etc where fuel is subsidised
Part of the answer is the earning power of the average resident of these European countries and America such that wage distortions are ,ini,ised between the lowest and highest earners. Removing subsidy (a priviledge) should allow workers and citizens alike address the issue of a realistic wage (a right) for everyone.

Congratulations to Tinubu for his [size=16pt]PERSONAL[/size] victory at the CCT. I hope the case handlers who perpared a shoddy brief will get punished for the embarassment caused to all sides to ensure that they get their facts and evidence right and tight before charging anyone, especially an opposition figure to court.
But the biggest losers are we all- the idea that Tinubu was tried because he is ACN does not help the fight against corruption at all.
Are Gbenga Daniel, Alao-Akala, Bankole etc also being tried because they are opposition leaders
I hope sooner rather than later Tinubu will get his day in court.

true because if he his sacked, he may end up under the bridge too and become a problem. the lord will change his ways for good, let us move on we are very close, hope NTA will air this, to create the spirit of love among Nigerians to help themselves for good.

Two things here:

- he does not need to be sacked. he can be suspended for a month, demoted, promotion/increment frozen for one year etc.
- how do you deter others from playing with the lives of others and misleading the reading public if there is no punishment for caught offenders

our hausa/fulani brothers (who have held power for the most part of our independent life with nothing to show for it to their almajiris) obviously believe that corrupt and sharia man Buhari is their best bet to get votes from gullible southerners. I imagine that is what this is all about- no more, no less.
And the master pretender will fail again just as he failed this year and I predict it will be a worse failure.

while the kindnesss continues to flow on NL, it would be interesting to show some firmness about the PM News journalist who published the misleading stories.
Any update about sanctions by his employers against him?

luvola:
lasu is currently the most expensive public university in nig,thank GOD i just graduated frm the institution last month.

This is a very pathetic thing to say. God don do my own, make una wey remain find una level. Everyone for himself, God/devil takes the rest attitude is what is killing all of us despite our individual intelligence.
I guess you cannot imagine how too many delinquents and Area boys/almajiris, as a result of this insensitive measure by Fashola, will lead to greater criminality that will directly affect you and your relations even if you do get cozy with your newly acquired degree

Magamaga:
Are there scholarships or are student able to source for loans to go to school as it is done in the US? Even if you increase the school fees and students or their parents can secure access to funding, that will not be a problem, in the US for instance, my school fees was increased from USD46,000 to USD48,000 ; about N300,000. Yet the ppple did not take to the streets because there are student loans, scholarships and other sources of funding to assist in pursuing one's dream.

You are comparing oranges with apples all over your post.
First what is the earnings disparity between the lowest paid US civil servant and its political office holders, including Obama and Congressmen? Does it compare with the disparity between Nigeria's 18k minimum wage and the multi-millions paid to our president, governors and legisLOOTERS? How affordable is a decent standard of life, including paying for one child's university education, at this US minimum wage?
Again you state your school fee increase of less than 5% ($2,000/46,000) in its absolute NGN equivalent to give the impression that Fashola's absurd (over 700%) increase is justifiable. Haba!
Are your studies and stay in the US bankrolled by a politician of the ACN group by chance?

Remii:
You see, what we need is to restore middle class in all forms. In the 70s and 80s technical schools and trade centers have values.

when was the last time you saw a vacancy for this type of qualification even in government parastatals such as LASTMA, BRT etc.
And you cannot restore middle class when there is so much gap between the salary of the civil servants and those of the political office holders and legisLOOTERS- just not possible. Makes everyone want to get a degree (even a fake one from Chicago/Toronto etc) and become a politician.
it is recent acts like this that makes people conclude that the Association of Conmen in Nigeria is a Tax & Steal party.

let's ask ourselves why was there less corruption in colonial times up to the first coup in 1966 that was aimed at the "10 percenters"- those who took 10% on government contracts, deals etc?
Further, let's ask why there is more corruption in autocratic and pseudo-democratic societies in eastern Europe than democratic and open societies in western Europe and America?
One of the reasons is the reduced difference between the minimum and the highest wage earners unlike in Nigeria where minimum wage is 18,000 while legisLOOTERS earn 12m monthly for doing almost nothing. Remember that everyone has the same basic needs- shelter, food and clothing.
Moreover, reduced ethnicity and crying persecution of my kinsman when a person is being charged for corruption- saying what of the other thieves!

the real question is how does Babatunde Fashola expect a civil servant in the Lagos state he govers on N18,000 minimum wage to send one child to university Fashola is openly inviting the workers to embrace corruption.
Yet to think that he enjoyed four years of free education, including free textbooks, under Jakande's UPN administration less than three decades ago is appaling

[quote author=bashy_demy link=topic=811603.msg9636474#msg9636474 date=1322310207]Even in US and western world Education is not free and are expensive[/quote]How much is the salary differentials between the rulers and the ruled in these developed countries?
Unlike in Nigeria where ordinary legisLOOTERS earn more than the US president- Barack Obama.
I guess the western world does not include scandinavian countries where university education is still free based on set criteria and Nigerians are queuing uop to go study there.

I hope the family of the deceived & HIV/AIDS deceased people will engage lawyers to file civil cuits for 419 - obtaining money under false pretence.
That would be really nice against all these fake pastors.

Jarus:
I get your point, NB. I know the gravity of the guy's misreport. Maybe I'm overly sympathetic, having seen a person sacked before.

It's good to be sympathetic but you have to weigh it against the need to deter others from such indiscipline and outright fraud. If someone did wrong, s/he should be punished according to the laws/rules governing his relationship with the persons offended/society at large. That is the way a civilised society functions except we want to continue dwelling in lawlessness/impunity.
Meanwhile congrats for the outpouring of humane love towards our fellow Nigerians. May your good works be rewarded in multiple folds and ways- Amen.

and what is the job of the over-fed legisLOOTERS in the NASS if they cannot amend the constitution as they have done in the last session
And to think that Tinubu went to school!!!
Oh I forgot someone said it already- making populist noise for his crowd of gullible supporters.

emiye:
I would have even preferred micro-credit instead of grant. Grant is not pepayable, Microcredit is repayable. Some might see it as a national cake and spend the money poorly. Anyways, it is a good initiative

Since SINator Remi is part and parcel of the Association of Conmen in Nigeria-ACN- she is giving grants to be managed by Skye Bank i.e repaid at an interest rate set by the bank.
Btw, did she reject the non-approved allowances and salary paid her in NASS

solomon111:
It would be highly ridiculous and silly to call this a meaningful gesture.We dont need this,we need strong institutions,enabling environment for small scale business devt,progressive policies instead of giving people money which will not be enough to feed the dog in her house for a day.THIS LOOTERS IN PROGRESS WONT KILL ME.SMH

and Mr. Fashola's resident apologist on NL had to respond as follows:

Eko Ile:
Your outrage is utterly misguided, it is up to the federal government to develope such institution, not Senator Tinubu, this woman is basically looking out for her constituncy, the same people that voted for her and sent her to Abuja.

So senator Remi is not a part of the federal establishment 
With sycophants like you all around Fashola it is no wonder the guy is spewing out rubbish lately despite his SAN status

another one bites the dust.
living big on borrowed money without paying attention to the basics of good business i.e. honour your promises to ALL your stakeholders- workers, clients, suppliers/franchisers, debtors, shareholders, government tax collectors etc.
Most Nigerian, African businesses cannot sustain themselves at the initial glittery pace beyond three years. No maintenance culture and focus on praise singers and sycophants who get carried away by the shine, shine effect of everything NEW.
I remember the acting big man who also had an agreement for direct flights to the US some seven - ten years ago only to have the aircrafts seized by the lessors since the guy was not paying while selling tickets to mugus in Nigeria and the US. The only surprise is I never heard that the guy was taken to court by the disappointed passengers who were left stranded at year end festivities.

Those praising without a deep critique of the gesture are the reason why the country is making progress at slow-poke rate.
Why should you praise (without qualification) a senator for giving out 20k to 50 market women who must go through LG chairmen and be managed by a bank
What did the SINator have to say about the 700% increase in tuition fees for LASU students many of whom are her constituents and voting public?
Btw, how much is her salary and allowances compared to the wages of civil servants who are more productive than she is in NASS?
Also what is her Income tax declaration for the past five years at least to track her income sources?
Shine your eyes and ask critical questions of these loafers whom we have allowed to lead us.

Olalekan 0:
,so Amosun should shut his mouth and get to work,the only reason why he might perform slghtly better than Daniel is because he won't have OBJ on his trail.

And I challenge Amosun to swear if he hasn't stolen or inflated contract sums since he assumed office in June!

First, no one steals because some other person is or is not on their trail. Daniel stole and fell out with OBJ despite their public feeding of one another.
Secondly, OBJ is also on Amosun's trail and to use your logic he is not going to "perform slightly better than Daniel" as per the quote below:

During a thanksgiving service in a church in Abeokuta shortly after he was sworn in, former President Olusegun Obasanjo, who is the Board of Trustee (B.O.T) chairman of the PDP made a surprise appearance at the church, felicitating with Amosun and after the church service, Amosun drove straight to Obasanjo's residence where the duo had a secret meeting.

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Nothing unusual as he was in the same PDP with OBJ and Daniel and was there senator 2003-2007 before he left for ANPP to contest governorship against daniel as he could not wait till 2011.
I also understand Amosun is a distant relation to OBJ.

anonimi:
Just like Amosun, Tinubu's satellite chief for Ogun state. There are others like him who are elected now on ACN's platform.

Just in case some people need to rejig their memories about Amosun's recent political trajectory, you can read the extract hereunder:

It would be recalled that Sen. Amosun got into the consciousness of the people when he contested for the Ogun Central Senatorial district in 2003 against the then incumbent Senator Femi Okurounmu of the Alliance for Democracy (AD).
Though, Amosun's four year stay in the senate between 2003 and 2007 was not that impressive, he however preoccupied himself with the project of becoming the governor of Ogun state in 2007. He actually wanted to take over the leadership of the state from the then Governor of the state, Otunba Gbenga Daniel, who just finished his first term then and was implored to run for second term owing to the ovation that greeted his impressive performance as the state's chief executive officer.
But Amosun will have none of it  and when it was clear the People's Democratic Party (PDP) which he and Daniel belonged  asked him to be patient, he (Amosun) fought the leadership of the party and decamped to a less popular party in the south-west of Nigeria, the All Nigeria people's Party. Infact, the ANPP is regarded as a northern party in the South-west region of the country.

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lagcity:
Look at this Sani Shaaban from Kaduna. He jumps from party to party; went from ANPP to CPC to ACN. Are these the candidates ACN is supposed to invest in?

Just like Amosun, Tinubu's satellite chief for Ogun state. There are others like him who are elected now on ACN's platform.
I have said it and will say it again Tinubu's ACN is no different from PDP. Except that PDP is run by a group of greedy ex-soldiers and their civilian recruits with national spread.
However PDP cannot be bothered about propaganda and media spins of mediocre (average) performance as excellent while taxing the poor masses more to make glossy projects for the elite. To that extent ACN is the smart cousin of PDP.
Tinubu's gang will find it difficult to be a national party as long as one man is playing king over everyone.