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imsaneuk: The 5 races came from Africa, now the argument over who was the first race, is daft.
Now their are people who believe the black race Was first and others who believe one of the other races was first.
Now is it racist to say, yes we was first race on earth, or to simply say we don't no the first race.
You have 3 view's, Adam and Eve, evolution, and aliens put us here, god does not state what skin colour Adam and eve were.
Is it not easier to accept that humanity started out in Africa.
What is your view.

Couldn't have said it any better myself, you are right. It has been proven the first humans are from Africa, any one who debates that is in lala land but different races have evolved since then though from Africa, which has lead to differences in opinions and competition to show superiority.

MsDarkSkin: im eating this now...
fried unripe plantain with bacalao!!

Main dish bacalao (minus the unripe banana):

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fried unripe plaintain:

https://afowen.com/wp-content/gallery/blog-pictures-200904/patacones-1.jpg

I'm a big fan of plantain it looks delicious

MsDarkSkin: yep. i only struggle with ox-tail lol but
everything else i am good.

I know what you mean about the ox tail it is a hard meat to boil just right at times

I like Odysseus and Artemis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oetQ0PivMws

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3NTAmGig0U

Nice pictures

I heard about this in the news today, it was weird but interesting.

interesting

Interesting

kengis: True ,the bad economy helped him but he was the ideal candidate too and like you said he was his destiny to be the 44 th president of the united states knowing that years before a kenyan student with the exact same name came to the US ....

Well you have a point

kengis: The fact that some racist guys call him names means nothing :racism still exist but the majority of white people trust obama enough
Obama got elected because people (white ,latinos,jews) needed change and because of his image ,it has nothing to do with being lucky
If it was jesse or another black american he would not be elected
This years ,that black american from the republican party did not make it even as a potential candidate

It wasn't just some racist guys many white americans fromsouthern America didn't like him at one point; check out thee crazy tea part movement on youtube and etc and you will know what I mean

True but many of the non-blacks who voted for obama were of the young generation, a demographic that usually doesn't go out to vote or pay attention to politics. I feel luck, the bad economy helped Obama get elected not just his image. Months before Obama was elected McCain lead obama in the polls, it was when the stock market crashed. A month or two before the election that obama's poll numbers change to favor him, I remember 2008 very well and it was many factors that helped Obama, I feel now looking at it, it was his destiny

kengis: The truth is white people feel very comfortable around Obama ,he's not a threat :never been to jail LOL, a descendant of immigrants just like white ,not violent
well educated and hard working like most african immigrants
Obama was filmed with his family in kenya and his story fit with white americans history since they came here as pioneers
Obama senior did the same and believed in the american dream
Obama was the ideal candidate : black but not too much with a white mother
black yeah but not from the slaves stock
Obama is a cousin of Dick cheney : he got strong ties with white america and his maternal family owned slaves ,he's not a victim like jesse

Well you bring up some good points but many whites also were apprehensive and pure racist to obama calling him a arab, muslim, monkey you name it. Obama was just lucky for the fact that many Americans were sick of the war hungry Bush and din't want another bush(McCain) to be in the white house and the economy back in 08 was a mess and still is but recovering slowly. If it wasn't he wouldn't have been elected. Also for the fact that his mother was white helped because many white people for two staright years after he was elected and a little bit before didn't like the fact that he called himself black american(instead of mixed) and gave homeage to his father and Kenya. Many nutt cases(the birthers), particularily white americans up till this day still believe he wasn't born in America(hawaii).

Obama got heat from both white and black americans

kengis: Obama succeed where those black american such as jesse jackson failed
There is one reason :obama is not your typical black american and will never be !
Obama was elected not "nominated"by whites , latinos and jews because he got this immigrant mindset that africans do share
Just like America was a magical place for his father in the 60 's ,for black americans ,it was though !whhy ?

First of all I never said Obama is the "traditional African American", however I am starting to see where you are thinking but when it comes to Obama he is a unique case because he is a rarity because he has also had other influences as well(international) so it would make sense why Jesse Jackson failed while Obama won because Obama had a new age view and had more knowledge of politics outside America as a African American compared to traditional African Americans, he was basically a breath of fresh air.

kengis: Obama can identity himself with martians if he wants
Does it make him a martian ,I don't think so !
Being married to a black american does not make him a black american
You said he was cukturally"AA" and we said hell no !

Look no matter what and how we feel Barack Obama is culturally African American/white American; despite him not being a traditional african american since his father is kenyan and his mother is white american; plus his international experience outside America when young

chic2pimp: What he identifies himself as is not issue being discussed here.
Whether he was influenced by the African American culture is the issue being discussed and the answer I'm sorry to say is a blatant No!!!

Where does Reverend wright falls then? To me though his white American side influence him and African American culture influence second

chic2pimp: I very well understood what u were trying to say.

Obama was not raised and niether was he influenced by the African American Culture.
The only tie that links him back to the African American culture is that of his wife.
His sound upbringing was mainly due to the fact that he was raised by his White Grandparents and the little time he spent in Indonesia.
It has Absolutely nothing to do with the African American Culture.

True but the only black influence he has had is African American ex. Reverend wright, any way we can't argue with what Obama identifies as which is African American. sometimes the wife has a strong influence in what path or community you assimilate in

kengis: There 's no comparison
His criticism towards african countries was about politics

True to a extent but some was about social issues

kengis: So jesse jackson said obama is not the "traditional AA" just like I'm saying obama ain't the typical black american
ok I'm done LOL

I never consider Obama the traditional African American, but that doesn't change the fact that he is identified as one, which is his right

kengis: Obama is a typical white american dude with kenyan blood in him
He has the immigrant mindset that anything is possible in America just like african immigrants
Obama even criticized many times black american male

Yeah it is true he criticize black American men, which Jesse criticized him for but Obama has also criticized his fathers country Kenya, also Liberia, Nigeria as well

kengis: Culturally Obama is not "AA" at all , he has a different mindset ,that's why jesse jackson wanted to "kill" him as well as reverend wright

Umm I don't think Reverend wanted to kill Obama but he was causing Drama for obama back in 08 and Jesse well I feel a little jealosuy was with him but Jesse has always said back then in 08 that Obama is not the traditional african american

kengis: I never says he has a kenyan culture ,I told you that it was his heritage and that he was very much inspired by his father
This is why he wrote a book about him
Black american like jesse jackson tried to be elected as president ,why do you think he failed ? LOL

oh ok, I am talking about cultural identification but when I said he isn't culturally Kenyan you seem not to understand what I meant earlier. Any way when it comes to the jesse Jackson vs. Obama fiasco I know what you mean

kengis: Nobody told you that he was raised in the kenyan culture ,he was raised by white peep
In his book ,he explained that his father Obama senior paved the path for him ,that why he went to Harvard and his father was a politician

True, you can even say he is more white American then black American culturally