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can you unhidden my post on this thread("pictures of African traditional clothing" ): https://www.nairaland.com/870389/pictures-african-traditional-clothing/1

I did what the thread asked, so I don't know why my post is hidden when people are doing the samething, thank you

Excellent thread; wow I love how you did most of the countries of Africa

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A tough one, but I think it depends really. People need to remember that this concept/philosophy never existed with Blacks in the first place, along with many races. However I feel there will be Universal Unity amongst Black Africans due to economics or economically but with Black diasporians? I doubt it especially with African americans but possibly with Black Caribbeans, because the views about how to move forward between the communities are different, which is understandable because the issues the communities face are different. I feel when it comes to racism all blacks worldwide sympathize but after that it goes out the window. This debate is to late quite frankly, Africans have many issues facing their community that it is just not a priority since what Black africans face in their country is different from african americans. Despite that that doesn't mean their can never be a distant understanding eventually amongst the communities though but unity in general, I don't know.

Despite that though never say never because a few african countries are doing out reach programs with africans americans like Ghana, South Africa, Liberia and etc but both groups go through a wake up call when they finally meet because most Black african citizens of their countries treat them as Americans while what african americans expect from africans is not what the receive in return, so that is a little gray. Although that is the case I feel it is a good step though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jFviE37E2Y

At the end of the day though I don't think it is possible among black africans and Black diasporians because most black africans don't hold that philosophy of world wide black unity because racism is not what they face in their homelands(except South Africa) but poverty, tribalism(more so in other countries then others), corruption NOT Racism, so it is not a priority for them. When it comes to Black diasporians world wide Black unity is a philosophy they hold very dear, especially Africans americans(excluding Black Latina's since they don't care). I believe in the future their will be Black African unity(NOT united states of AFRICA) when it comes to economic development and etc but worldwide black unity is a stretch. This video brings up some points about that(I don't agree with everything entirely he says but he does bring up some great points).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSYpAD5iipc&feature=fvsr

The example blacks need to follow is fix your backyard before fixing others and it shouldn't be by force; so African americans need to concentrate on their community solely to progress their community, Black africans need to start progressing their own countries then start helping other Black african countries, and that goes with Black Caribbeans as well in their communities. That doesn't mean communities Blacks from different communities can't converse with one another but after that it shouldn't be forced.

New world blacks and old world blacks just see things differently, so I doubt it. I feel economic development should be the focus with Black africans and Black Caribbeans, not universal Black unity

blacklion: This impostor irritates me immensely. Who listens to her in Africa anyway? Who will leave Fally Ipupa, Talina, Extra Musica, Kofi Olomide, Awilo etc to listen to her glorified cat-mewling?

Her audience is primarily European and American 'world music' aficionados. After the first 1 or 2 hits way back in the late '80s, her 'music' has been pure c r a p. She's been left way behind by contemporary African music

Wow, LOL. well I am not a fan of her & only remember a hit from her when I was really young after that she doesn't really come to mind at all as a african musician. I guess that is what happens when somebody strays away from their basic roots when it comes to music.

fellis: ^^You mind am?

Kanye west just likes attention, remember that episode with Taylor Swift; "Imma let you finish. . . "
Silly fella.

True, LOL

fellis: Kim already has had one infamous televised union, but that hasn’t stopped Kanye from hoping he can tie the knot in a fairytale wedding BIGGER than Prince William & Kate Middleton’s nuptials, a source tells HollywoodLife.com EXCLUSIVELY.

Kim Kardashian is no stranger to walking down the aisle — she already has two marriages under her belt. But the next time she gets married, if it is to Kanye West, the cameras may be capturing her third wedding!

“Kanye wouldn’t be opposed to having a huge TV wedding,” a source close to the rapper explains to HollywoodLife.com. “He’d do it just to prove his wedding to Kim would get more way more viewers than Prince Williams’ wedding.”


He may have a little work to do with Kim, convincing her to marry in front of a TV crew. “When I saw Khloé and Lamar get married — and they had their wedding on TV — I thought, ‘Oh, my gosh, that’s so exciting! That’s what I want,’” Kardashian recently told Allure magazine. “If you were to ask me now, that’s not what I want … I would just want it to be so special, with our family and close friends, and that’s it. Somewhere on a deserted island, very private. No cameras.” Hmm- we think Kim could have a change of heart especially if her mom, Kris Jenner, has her way!

Sauce:
[url]hollywoodlife.com[/url]

Kanye West will never get more views then prince William and kate's wedding, the viewers were not only from America but all around the world, every walk of life watched William and Kate. However with Kanye west & kim Kardashian, some people not only in the US but around the world have no respect for people like that; the death of a American president, the pope and etc will definately without a doubt have a viewer ship like William and kate's wedding and even top it but Kanye and Kim, give me a break lol. The viewers won't be more then how it was with Kris humphries and Kim. Kim better stay with her plan of just having it private not public as far as I am concerned.

paris10: Just observed lately that most movies shown on Nollywood movie channel is often centred on kings and queens. Main roles always played by some prince or princess. It is just me that these bunch are running out of idea! I Called the Nollywood customer service recently and complained about this routine. They promised changing their order of movies, but same thing still continue.

Ghollywood is beginning to catch with Nollywood of late. I saw some of their films and they were fantastic. No showing of same roads to get back to another scene in their movies. Their flashbacks were excellent and story line superb. Their continuity is ok and better.

We want movies that depict reality, and not just some abstract flick. When last did you see these so-called princes and princesses roaming about the street with their regalia on and some bunch of vikings acting as their body guards?

I agree 100%, that is why 90% of the movies I watch from Nigeria are yoruba films, the rest 10% are Nollywood English movies.

congratulations to her

Not Surprised
http://news.yahoo.com/tom-cruise-katie-holmes-seek-divorce-report-172855488.html

Eliza704: Well african americans arent the only ones. Any way i study hard and work hard and save all of my money. My african guys friends buy what ever i need. Im not like some american blacks that spend more money than i have coming in. Any way why does a Nigerian care what an african american is spending or saving?

Exactly

[quote author=Mr..Cork]she very ugly. how old is she?? 72? Everytime I listen to her songs, I just want to do press up. Its very depressing. (no ofeinsese) [/quote]what planet are you living in?

dasparrow: Very well said! Nothing more to add, nothing to subtract. Sade is indeed in a league of her own. I don't listen to Adele because nowadays all this successful music artists have sold their soul to you-know-who. In a few years down the line, they begin to die mysteriously before they even get to age 60.

Nobody can deny that Adele's music in America is reigning today and everybody likes her, her music is a breath of fresh air from some of the garbage I hear in the radio today; and she just started out so we need to give her a few years based on what the article is saying but the test for Adele which you sort of brought out is can she last decades like Sade?, can she sell out tours like Sade?, can her music be timeless like Sade? I think she can sell out tours like Sade but last for decades I really don't know because it isn't possible now a days for singers to last long like it was in Sade's and etc times, the maxi-mun they can get is a decade or 15 years now, so that is a given unless things change but can she be timeless like Sade I doubt it

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Maybe because Sade has been there longer (?)

Give Adele just 2 more years.

And the only place I head about Sade is on NL abeg. Never listened to her songs.[/quote]You have a point Sade has been around longer for decades now, and Adele just came out so I would like to see the people who wrote this article bring this up again in a few years to compare them because if Adele keeps up with her success for years to come she could surpass Sade.

When it comes to their music, I am actually a fan of Adele and Sade, and love their music but based on my observation people know more and are more intuned with Adele now over Sade, majority of the people who talk about her are from the older generation but adele all generations are talking about her and liking her music.

The one thing I see Sade has over Adele which is a fact is that she is timeless, she has lasted over the decades past the 80's and with the type of music she sings. Any time Sade has a tour, her tickets sell out up till this day; I wonder if Adele can do that when she reaches Sade's age.

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[b]"Just as we've got used to the idea that Adele is now a massive star in America, triumphing at the Grammys for the second album running, waving at her mum and crying through her mascara that "the girl done good", it transpires there is someone bigger. A British artist whose staggering sales have pushed Adele down the ranking to merely the second biggest-selling British musician in the 2012 US money list.

What's really surprising is that the No 1 British act in America isn't Elton John or Paul McCartney or any of those obvious British behemoths abroad (although Irish band U2 did come in higher and Coldplay haven't released anything recently). Nor is it a young stealth interloper such as Mumford & Sons. It is, in fact, Sade, who many of you will have forgotten decades ago, to be reminded only when Your Love Is King and The Sweetest Taboo pop up on daytime radio, or as the soothing soundtrack to buying shoes. (Indeed I did once hear a Sade album, sometimes dismissed as elevator music, being played in a hotel lift.)

In the US, her 2010 comeback, which led to a new album, a greatest hits album and a huge tour, was a much bigger deal than it was in the UK. Perhaps it makes sense that Sade's music would find a healthy audience in America, where many original fans were unaware, given her mixed race looks and her soulful style, that she was British not American. Her grown-up brand of pop music – understated, fatalistic, with that sultry voice and her astonishing almond-shaped eye – gave her a sophisticated appeal. But not much of a public persona. Indeed, I was surprised to discover that she is now happily installed in a modest cottage in the Cotswolds with her boyfriend and teenage daughter. (Most of us didn't even know she had one.) In her home country, Sade is something of a comfortable heritage act; her lifestyle is hardly tabloid fodder.

Yet in America, she is a star. Brad Wavra, senior vice-president of touring at Live Nation, the world's biggest show promoter, declared Sade to be a "rare jewel. It feels like I'm working with Miles Davis, Elvis Presley and the Beatles all rolled into one." Rolling Stone described her new studio album, Soldier of Love, as "unimpeachably excellent" while Billboard said: "It's been 10 years since Sade released an album, but be forewarned – the giant has awoken." People magazine succinctly summed up Sade's enduring appeal as "the voice of comfort to the wounded heart". All of which led to her — or rather, the four-piece band that bears her name — earning $16.4m from combined album and ticket sales last year.

Of course, Adele had to cancel her American tour because of throat surgery, which means her takings were unexpectedly diminished, but even so the average British music fan probably wouldn't have expected to see Sade on the list anywhere at all. She comes in sixth, after Taylor Swift, U2, Kenny Chesney, Lady Gaga and Lil Wayne — a fairly broad church of country, rock, rap and pop. They are followed by Bon Jovi, Celine Dion and Jason Aldean (no, us neither), and then, at No 10, Adele.

Given that Sade is one of the least public British popstars we've ever had, does her longevity put paid to the idea that with success comes a pact with the devil of celebrity? The big promo campaigns; the paparazzi; letting the gossipmongers feed on your public romances and your private pain – none of this really sounds like her. Sade's songs do speak of pain; if not battle cries, they are cries from somebody who has battled. But they are gentle, smooth, not seemingly designed to conquer the world or fill a stadium. The music industry still talks in hallowed tones about "cracking America", something Adele has done with huge impact, but when Sade did it, she wasn't so obviously British. She didn't court the chatshow circuit with a gobby accent in the way that Adele does, so her speaking voice went largely unheard.

In fact, she has given a couple of interviews in recent years. She told Spin magazine her mother struggled a lot, having married in Nigeria "and then come home to England with two brown children and a suitcase in the early 60s". Sade's father, a lecturer, remained in Nigeria, where Sade lived until the age of 11. "I am fairly classless because it is very difficult to class someone who comes from a mixed marriage. There isn't a class structure in Nigeria, there's a tribal structure and prestige as far as money is concerned." She told Ebony magazine that her partner, Ian, "was a Royal Marine, then a fireman, then a Cambridge graduate in chemistry. I always said that if I could just find a guy who could chop wood and had a nice smile it didn't bother me if he was an aristocrat or a thug as long as he was a good guy. I've ended up with an educated thug."

It seems she quite enjoys being able to live the quiet life in England, while enjoying fame overseas – a lot like Iron Maiden, who earn millons every year touring like rock gods in South America and Asia, but are seen as a thing of the past in England. Bruce Dickinson says he likes flying a private jet to a show in Rio but then riding a bike to the pub in Chiswick.

Says Paul Simper, a journalist who worked with her extensively in the 1980s: "None of the other British solo women from Sade's time, such as Alison Moyet or Carmel, made any impact in the US at all. Sade was unique in that respect. But her Englishness was never a selling point. CBS just wanted to sign her and build her up to be somebody like Whitney, get her a professional studio band, but she resolutely stuck to her guns and stayed with the band from London she'd always had. And she still has – she's always done it on her terms. Being successful in America didn't involve any compromise or sounding any more American; her sound was always the same throughout."

And that sound has stood the test of time. Songs like Smooth Operator, No Ordinary Love and Love Is Stronger Than Pride do now feel like classics. The way she sings is the way her career has turned out – in no hurry, not about to change for anybody. Her songs are in it for the long game, and so is she."[/b]
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/mar/13/why-sade-bigger-adele-us

interesting; any way regardless Sade's music is good without collabs

interesting John Dumelo still getting most of the votes

I never knew any one in Nigeria ate dog, lol

[b]"If I recall correctly, her name was one of the few mentioned in our post alerting you to the petition that called for the recasting of the role Thandie Newton has been selected to play in the film adaptation; well, she won’t be replacing Thandie Newton, however, Genevieve Nnaji (maybe the most internationally well-known Nollywood actress), has been cast in director Biyi Bandele’s big screen adaptation of Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie’s novel Half Of A Yellow Sun.

Nnaji joins the aforementioned Thandie Newton, as well as John Boyega, Chiwetel Ejiofor and Dominic Cooper in what’s shaping up to be one hell of a production to keep our eyes on as it progresses.

Nnaji (one of Nollywood’s wealthiest actresses) has yet to really break through on the international film scene, although her name has been rumored as being attached to various non-Nollywood projects. She’s also set to star in Isaiah Washington, Jimmy Jean-Louis and others Nigerian director Tony Abulu’s drama/thriller Doctor Bello, which is currently in production.

According to her publicist, Ms Nnaji will play the role of Ms Adebayo, a professor who develops a flirtatious relationship with her colleague Mr Odenigbo (Ejiofor).

I’ve yet to read the book, so those character names mean nothing to me currently; but those of you who have read it will be familiar I’m sure; so chime in if you’d like."[/b]
http://buyblackmovies.com/blog/nollywood-starlet-genevieve-nnaji-joins-cast-of-half-of-a-yellow-sun-film-adaptation.html

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opinions?

[b]"Speculations are rife that the once harmonious relationship between the Nigerian movie industry, Nollywood and its counterpart, Ghana’s Ghollywood, is currently under threat as the movie marketers under the aegis of Film, Video Producers and Marketers Association of Nigeria (FVPMAN) have placed an embargo on Ghanaian films with effect from the end of this month.

The association has also resolved to halt the distribution of films produced by non-professionals. It insists that if such film(s) must be distributed at all, its right of ownership should be transferred to its members on negotiation.

The FVPMAN chairman, Onitsha branch, Mr. Uzo Godson Nwosu, who confirmed this development to HVP, said this position was taken after the association’s general meeting last weekend in Onitsha.

According to him, the decision became necessary following the position taken by their Ghanaian counterparts who have banned the distribution of Nigerian films in their country long time ago.

His words, “starting from the first week of August, no Ghanaian film will be allowed to enter the Nigerian market again. We have resolved that no Ghanaian film will be distributed within our controlled market. Our Ghanaian counterparts have long stopped distributing our films in their country, and given this development, we have no choice than to reciprocate the gesture.” FVPMAN boss stated.

Nwosu who is also the Chief Executive Officer of Guinks Investment, said any of their members who failed to comply with this new order will either be prosecuted or have his goods confiscated by the association.

The marketer said the association is finalising plans to storm Ghana any moment from now, particularly to confront those local television stations who are illegally airing Nigerian films without obtaining permission from the right owners.

Also, given the problem associated with “second tier market” (where a producer is compelled to observe a three-month grace before releasing his film into the market in a large quality), Nwosu said the association has decided to reversed the trend.

Film owners, according to him, are now free to release their films into the market without necessarily observing the mandatory three months grace before doing so.

They will also be required to obtain censors’ board and copy right commission’s documents in addition to registering the film with the sum of N10,000 with the FVPMAN.

“In order to move the association forward, we have resolved to address the problem of second tier market.” FVPMAN boss further stated.**"[/b]
http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/entertainment/artikel.php?ID=242896

speedyboi: Yea, its true... Nollywood movies are watched at those places, infact places like UK and some other african countries he stated; I have reasons to believe the percentage is higher. There are more countries who watch nigerian movies like The Zambia, Kenya, Sierra Leone, Jamaica etc. at a reasonable amount.
This might convince you a bit: https://www.nairaland.com/960109/tango-me-hit-cinemas-uk

If nigerians like to speak down on what is theirs, don't be surprised at others Appreciating it.


Btw, why are you asking for link again when he clearly wrote the source at the bottom. Ok I get it, you don't want to start searching for it; Typical naija attitude(no pun intended).

thanks; well I didn't see a link so I didn't see anything wrong with me asking for it. I like sources with my info, so it can be backed up that's why I asked

speedyboi: @the bolded, even their quality cannot stand nollywood movies except you are comparing them with roadside productions. You need to watch premiered movies such as Ije: the journey, Tango with me, kiss and tell, figurine, silent scandal, the return of Jennifer etc...... then give me feedback.

I should have clarified what I was comparing the ghollywood quality movies with because you are right, if it is compared to roadside nollywood movies, ghollywood beats them when it comes to quality but when it is premiered nollywood movies, ghollywood doesn't stand a chance so I agree with you and know about that, no argument there

ismhab: As for me i prefer Ghanian films they are more organized, the nigerian film industry is just trying to kill the Ghollywood market, because a lot of Nigerians now prefer that of Ghana.

Ghollywood started this, so nobody should criticize nollywood for what they are doing but majority of Nigerians prefer Nollywood, Yoruba and etc movies; the only thing ghollywood has going for them is their quality

Kazeem1987: Sorry, but this is LONG overdue!!!

First and foremost I want to make this very clear - Both Nollywood and Ghallywood suck. They both churn out sub standard crap at an alarming rate. Most Ghallywood films are Nollywood knockoffs. The rest are sleazy Indecency's. Nothing more, nothing less. As for Nollywood... What a big joke. It should be renamed IGBOwood. The story lines are nonsensical (Blackberry Babes), the actors are crap, and on top of all that they ruin everything by attempting to speak with an American accent. It's embarrassing and cringe worthy at best. Yoruba films blow both of them out of the water If I'm being totally honest. They are informative and helpful. If I was a foreigner wanting to know more about parts of West African culture and how things are done on a day to day basis I'd rather watch Yoruba films. What foreigner wants to listen to some Igbo person faking an American accent? What foreigner wants to watch some B-grade Ghanaian Indecency? Sorry but Ghallywood and Nollywood both need to go back to the drawing board.

Now, as to why I think we did the right thing on banning Ghanaian movies in Nigeria!

I don't know what it is, I don't know how it came about, but there seems to be this guilt complex that we Nigerians have towards Ghanaian people. It's almost as if because of the "Get Ghana Out" movement and things that have happened in the past, we should allow the Ghanaians to repeatedly slap, spit and piss in our faces just to make up for what happened all those years ago. It's like in America they have this thing called "White Guilt". "White Guilt" is a complex that Whites have towards African Americans for all the bad things they did to the AAs in the past. It basically means AAs can do whatever they want to Whites but if Whites should do something back they are in the wrong. An African American could racially abuse a White man and nothing will come of it. However, the moment a White man racially abuses the African American they end up in a world of shit... Does that sound fair to you? No? Me neither !!!

Why did I mention all that you ask? Because this is exactly what is happening between Nigeria and Ghana right now. It's as if Ghana is looking to hold Nigeria to emotional ransom for injustices of the past. A Ghanaian will scream and cry about a Nigerian all day long. As soon as a Nigerian does the same he's in the wrong. It's a guilt complex I tell you. We're basically being told that we have to be nice to Ghanaians and accept their slights at every turn just because we kicked them out all those years ago. How is that fair?

Ghana banning Nigerian movies was just another slap in the face we Nigerians were just EXPECTED to take. Never mind the fact we helped them out from the beginning. Never mind the fact we helped their "movie stars" blow up in Nigeria. Just forget all of that, because after all we had done for them in the past they still deemed it fit to ban our movies. What do these people expect from Nigeria? To then allow you to continue making money off of YOUR movies in OUR country? No chance!! You can't have your cake and eat it at the same time my Ghanaian friends. You can't say Bleep Nigeria than get upset and cry when Nigeria turns right around and says Bleep you back. It just doesn't work that way I'm afraid . It's either 50/50 or nothing. Don't just expect 70/30 because of past events .

One last thing before I leave - If you hate Chinese people and and detest Chinese food, would you then go to a Chinese restaurant to eat? I ask this because It seems as if the Ghanaians that harbor the most resentment towards Nigeria and her people always seem to find themselves on Nigerian websites ! Does that make any sense? I don't hate or dislike Ghanaians but you would NEVER find me on a Ghanaian website. ESPECIALLY if I hated them. The truth is I barely think about Ghana if football isn't involved. I just wonder why the "woe is me" Ghanaian type always find their way to Nairaland. Why don't they stick to the many Ghanaian websites out there? I don't mind the good/decent Ghanaians that don't come here ranting and raving like lunatics about the past.I don't mind them at all, they are the type that make me feel proud to have Ghana as a brother country. It's just the crybaby loudmouths I cant stand. Their pettiness and insecurity becomes irritating after a while .

The ban on Ghanaian movies being sold should be lifted the day Ghana lifts the ban on Naija movies being sold in their country. Don't expect Nigeria to kiss your ass!! For all the problems Nigeria is facing we wouldn't suffer if we cut ties with Ghana. Can Ghana honestly say the same thing?

Excellent response; I agree

Adetayo100: Ghana movies are poor, indecency, fake acents i prefer to watch a yoruba movie

tryoliviame: As for me o ban or not I don't like both our naija english home video let alone ghana's. I prefer watching yoruba films cos there are very enlightening and educating. I learn so much from it.

So true

Stacey Banks: 50% of ghanaian movies are sold in ghana. 37% in Nigeria and 13% goes to Togo,Benin,Bissau.

13% of Nigerian movies are sold in Barbados. 7% in the U.K. 2% in the U.S. 9% in S.A. 41% in Ghana. 2% in Malawi. 3% in Kenya. 18% in Nigeria. 2% in Germany. 1% in Cote'D'voire. 1% in Togo. 1% Zambia.
Oya oya compare the two industries.

Source: Coson-FVPMAN

Interesting, I am not surprised, can you send the link of this info?