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SirLinks:
a modern nuclear war would lead to half the countries directly involved losing millions of lives
Hiroshima would be a grenade compare to what would be used from all sides.
How many people would be able to get to bunkers in time with modern hypersonic missiles.
The world should just pray all Dem craziness and threats doesn't lead to actual used of those weapons coz it would be one for the ages

Exactly.

olugabbie:
Russia can't use all these big missiles (strategic missiles) against Ukraine. They will likely use tactical missile equipped with nuclear warheads e.g Iskander-M ballistic missile, Kalibr cruise missiles, Oniks e.t.c

That's exactly what I mean. Deploying those missiles means they could possibly target locations beyond the war theatre. It's getting crazier.

HolinessForever:
Former Head of the CIA and retired four-star army general David Petraeus:

The U.S. and its allies (NATO) will destroy all Russian troops and equipment on the territory of Ukraine, and will sink the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation if Russia uses nuclear weapons against Ukraine.

This one will be the first to run into a bunker.

Uprightness100:
According to the Italian daily La Repubblica, NATO has warned its member states of Russia's deployment of the K-329 Belgorod nuclear submarine, which carries the Poseidon nuclear missile.

They have also deployed the Topol-M missile system. This is no longer funny, friends.

I think Ukraine should come to some sort of negotiation so they don't have to fight over and over again. As for those four regions. They're gone forever.

Ibime:
So they were settling there before 2011?

I wonder why I was meeting guys in Europe as far back as 2001 that nearly lost their lives and sanity on the Libya crossing.

Yeah. All the Africans you met in Europe got in from Libya because that's the only route the continent had.

LordAdam16:
Dude I am done with the topic. You've made your admission.

When anybody kills thousands of American civilians over 8 years, you can say it is not genocide. That's your own prerogative. But if you kill ethnic Russians over 8 years through continuous shelling, that qualifies as genocide to the Russians.

That is their point. That is my point.

400K civilians died in Iraq. 2 million civilians died in Vietnam. But the US does not target civilians. How do you mistakenly kill 400,000 and 2,000,000 unarmed people in two separate conflicts?

-Lord

The west never kills civilians...only the damn Russians do. courtesy of the Lamestream media.

Fash20:
How is syria under western sphere of influence

Question for the gods.

gambojimeta:
All those houses and mansions the oligarchs have bought in London and other western countries. How will the girlfriends, spouses and children travel there now

You sound like a spoilt child.

timay1:
The only silver-lining here, If Zelensky gets his wishes, is that Eastern Europe will become the new Middle east, with Ukraine being the epicenter.

At least Arab people will for once rest from incensant wars when US and its European allies shift away attention from them

NATO does not accept new members engaged in wars.

atmy1:

Orban is so right. A dwarf sanctioning a giant. How logical.

Ibime:
Why didn't Africans settle in Libya than risking their life in the Mediterranean then?

Not after your darling west turned it into a desolate place.

timay1:
Are you minding that guy.

Russia is literarily copying NATO's style of Annexation in Yugoslavia (Now Serbia) for the creation of Kosovo.

What people don't know is that Russia copied NATO style word for word.

Let me list the similarities between NATO's Yugoslavia campaign and Russia's Ukraine Campaign

Firstly, NATO accused Yugoslavia of ethnic cleansing and crimes against some ethinc minorites in part of Yugoslavia, the part that now became Kosovo.
Russia use the same template in Ukraine by accusing Ukraine of ethnic cleansing and Shelling of ethinc Russian minorities in Eastern Ukraine (Donbass)


Secondly, NATO sent in troops for Military operation, just like Russia did in Ukraine, and both did not technically declare war on both countries.
NATO was just bombing military assets in Yugoslavia indiscriminately, destroying see Civilian assets and innocent civilians along the way, Belgrade was bombed indiscriminately, even Chinese embassy in Belgrade got bombed accidentally then, that caused serious diplomatic issues with China.
Russia did the same in the first month of the war in Ukraine, bombing Kiev and everywhere allover the country, claiming they were targeting Military assets and installation.

After the whole Iraqi style shock and awe bombing, they then sent in troops to secure the part under dispute and eventually the war shifted to the are, which is now called Kosovo, after they've bombed Yugoslavia and weakend their military to at least reduce resistance a little bit.
Russia did the same and sent in some troops, although they first tried their luck by starting with Kiev, because they thought the Ukrainian govt will flee the country, leaving a vacuum, just like what US did to Iraq where it govt collapsed immediately after they sent in troops but eventually pulled back to Donbass after a month, when that didn't happen

Lastly, after some time of fighting, NATO conducted referendum in Kosovo, with Kosovo later declaring independence. Russia has now done the same with the Donbass.

In conclusion, you can now see the similarities between the two military campaign.

NATO set that shit precedent with Yugoslavia but it won't make the news because they have the western media under their thumb.

That's serving them back with their own plate.

Watcharena:
NATO is becoming funny this days ,can't Russia lunch nuclear weapons from their submarines

What else do you expect from clowns.

Uprightness100:
NUCLEAR STRIKE :
facts about why the Russian Federation will not be able to SUPRISE Ukraine with a nuclear strike.

1. Satellites will record the preparation even at the stage of transportation, the criteria for storing nuclear warheads are very strict.

2. The NATO states put the Russian Federation before the fact that the alliance could destroy the convoy with nuclear weapons even on the way to the starting position.

(GLOBAL Telegram)

Ignorance of that website is bliss. Russia already deployed the Topol-M missile chassis close to Ukraine.

Uprightness100:
CONFUSION IN A CONFUSED LEADERSHIP:

Kamala Harris: "The United States shares a very important relationship, which is an alliance with the Republic of North Korea."

Shortly after her remarks North Korea fired 2 more short-range ballistic missiles off east coast today.

How is the United States allied with North Korea?

Mad people everywhere.

gambojimeta:
The EU aren't crying as much as Africans. Last time I checked, Africans were still crossing the deadly Sahara only to end up at the bottom of the Mediterranean sea. With the arrival of Meloni, the Mediterranean bed is about to welcome more Africans

And you're an African. How great.

gambojimeta:
That must be the reason putards are crying more than the bereaved. So tey, they started opening threads upandan

Lmao. If any tears are to be shed, it should for the EU.

saxywale2:
A declaration about as legal as ISIS declaring the creation of its Caliphate. By a regime that is as much a terrorist organization as ISIS is.

Sadly, your take on it changed nothing. Everyone knew from the inception that this was going to be the end result of the brouhaha.

If it was good for NATO-Kosovo, it should be good for Dombass-Russia.

iykofias:
Up to 80 Foreign Mercenaries KILLED in high-precision strike on Ukrainian Foreign Legion position in Donetsk region, and Russian aircraft SHOOT DOWN 2 Ukrainian fighter jets - Russian Defense Ministry.

The foreign legion aspect always make me laugh and cringe at the same time because we all know who they are.

gambojimeta:
EOD. The pipelines would be good for scrap metal

Not when some in Europe still thinks it's useful.

iykofias:
Kremlin: Tomorrow at 15:00, agreements on the entry of new territories into Russia will be signed. They will be signed with all 4 territories where the referenda took place.

With that, Ukraine has already lost the battle.

iykofias:
“NATO will respond to any deliberate attack on its critical infrastructure” - alliance statement

Sounds like someone is scared of retaliation for something they’ve done

It's just preemptive rhetorics. They have set new precedent that would eventually comes back to hurt them.

gambojimeta:
Yes. 2 days worth of gas at most

Gas is gas.

gambojimeta:
The US energy production is becoming more diversified as we speak. Texas, one of the most conservative states in the US is even one of the leaders.

You are a either a pessimist or just Anti-West..
EU had already laid out a plan to cut dependence on Russian energy by 2/3 for this year alone and further more in coming months. Yes, some people will protest, but the pain will be temporary and they would finally wean themselves off Russian gas and blackmail. No more protest to turn on NS2 or NS1 to continue the addiction. I am glad this pipeline sabotage will even hasten the process.

If using present realities to predict possible future scenarios is termed pissimism in your Langly dictionary, then that's your take. I'm good with it.

The fact remains that most of the industrialized world still rely on traditional energy sources. Diversification is on, no one is denying that, but only western bots thinks it's a magic wand that would make it happen in seconds.

It's good that you admit that the EU would see real pain. Whatever, Russia has already written them off, pivoting to EastAsia and beyond.

While most part of the EU would move on eventually, at the end, some of them will still crawl back to Moscow because the fact remains: you can never replace CHEAP in mineral resources.

RepoMan007:
The average Russia assl1cker is unstable.

You are contradicting your own previous submissions.


You claimed months worth of gas was at stake then changed direction 180° degree and said they were already filled with pre ordered gas. Contradiction is hallmark of putards.

I expect you to be more intelligent than the average western asss leaker.

Read and get the picture. NS1 delivery base was filled with gas that can last more than a month. But only about 30% of that gas goes through the pipes to nations that ordered pending the compliance with the Ruble-for-gas payment demanded by the Russians. The Russians were withholding the other 70% volume by cutting off nations like the Netherlands for non payment in Ruble, plus the excuse that the NS1 needed maintenance.

NS2 have loaded gas waiting for its first transit to occur. These are the gas leaking out now.

RepoMan007:
The comments by Biden were utterly careless ones but I believe Russia has strong motives to have done that damage.

If only you can for once put aside sentiments, sit back and think about who stand to gain from this sabotage, then you will find the answer.

gambojimeta:
Atleast you are a putard that can stand the truth. That, I can manage.

Diversification of energy would eventually bring prices of Energy down. Obama in 2013 advised Europe to diversify so as to stop Europe's reliance on Russia. Trump also said something similar during his tenure.
Necessity is the mother of invention, now that the 2 major pipeline are out of service, European leaders would start thinking.

It's easy to talk about diversification, but the reality speaks otherwise.

Even the United States still relies heavily on natural gas and coal to generate its electricity.

While it is great to diversify to other sources of energy, it isn't always easy to apply it across industrialized nations. Check all the industrialized nations of the world and see for yourself.

Moreover, the global economy would not stand still for the likes of Germany to think and innovate even as their economy approaches recession. It's a competitive world and others would waste no time to pounce and take over your market share.


Now that both pipelines are out temporarily, the only option for the likes of Germany is to continue buying gas at exurbitant prices which will not only impact their industrial competitiveness significantly, but will also skyrocket the cost of living, thus laying the potential for widespread anger, protests and removal of governments. To cushion or prevent such a scenario from being the case, the governments must then introduced subsidies in different sectors of the economy, which unfortunately would increase the money flow (which initially wasn't part of the yearly budget) and thus forces up inflation. This is what is already happening in the UK. At the end, it's back to square one. So, either way, the EU is screwed.

"The West always should take Vladimir Putin's words seriously and not ignore them thinking that he was bluffing. Every word spoken by the President of Russia must be taken seriously - this is by no means a sign of weakness or conciliation, it is a sign of political wisdom."

Angela Merkel, Formal German Chancellor.

gambojimeta:
NS2 had only a day worth of gas in it. 300million cubic meter

NS1 was only running at 20% -30 before Russia even shut it in August. Even if it was at full capacity, that like another 300million cubic meter.

Fact: there was gas in both Pipes.

RepoMan007:
If we apply this pattern of judgement, why is Russia invading Ukraine in the first place? Since they wouldn't want the destruction of their own properties? Why was Mariupol bombed senseless? Why?
Apply your own logic to Russian acts and see who the joke is on.

I don't have the energy to go back to why Russia was forced to spank Ukraine. Minsk 2, NATO, nuclear weapons, Ukraine had it coming since 2014.

Mariupol was mostly damaged by members of the crazy AZOV regiment, hundreds of locals in the city attested to this fact when interviewed by an American journalist named Partrick Lancaster.

Back to topic: it's still wack to think the Russians sabotaged their own pipelines when they control the gas.

RepoMan007:
if Russia didn't bomb it, what is stopping them from doing the commonsensical thing of shutting the valve from their end after the leakage?
This will avoid wastage as you implied. Preserver wild life and aquatic lives, prevent disasters but they choose to allow the gas flow into the waters.

The two pipes were already filled with pre-ordered gas. Do some some research and you will see for yourself.