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Hanibbal:
Upon all the weapons flowing into Ukraine Zelensky is still crying for a no-fly zone. Ukraine is still going to kill 10,000 Russian soldiers today. Ukraine bad ooo

It's a pity that they are turning Ukraine into a weapon sales and testing ground, thanks to Zelensky who allowed his country to be goaded into this conflict.

BritishNaija:
There you have your answer, how do you think Ukraine jets and heli takes off if russia are the one fully in control of the Airspace?

Now you are making me laugh.

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Ukraine and Russia are still fighting for control of the skies 5 days into the war, US defense official says
Julie Coleman Feb 28, 2022, 6:38 PM

Sukhoi Su-25 jet aircraft
Sukhoi Su-25 jet aircraft, like the ones that Russia positioned near Ukraine and has reportedly used in its offensive against the country. Photo by Marina Lystseva\TASS via Getty Images
A senior US official said Ukraine's airspace remains contested, contradicting Moscow's claims.
Russia was expected to swiftly knock out Ukraine's air defense capabilities, but that has not happened.
Ukraine has claimed to have shot down Russian fighter jets, helicopters, and even troop transport planes.

Despite Russian claims to the contrary, Ukraine's airspace remains contested as the country's forces fight to repel Russian aggression, a senior US defense official said on Monday during an off-camera press briefing.

"The Russians have not achieved air superiority over the whole country," the official told reporters. "Ukrainian air defenses remain intact and viable in terms of aircraft and missile defense systems, and they're engaged."

"It's a contested airspace, and it's a very dynamic airspace," the official continued, contradicting Moscow's claims this morning that Russia has "total air superiority" over Ukraine.

Lmao. Coming from Fox news quoting a US defense source. very convenient for you to say.

Russia doesn't need to cover the whole of Ukraine to achieve air dominance. What the hell? Is Ukraine military spread across the "whole of Ukraine"? No, they aren't. So is their military aviation and routes.

Here is the fact: anywhere the Russian forces besieged, they come with state-of-the-art Surface to air defense systems, none of which Ukraine can match. This is the main reason Ukrainian aviation finds it difficult to fly because the areas currently besieged by Russia are where the largest remaining Ukrainian military and aviation forces were located. Even with US/NATO Intel helping them with coordinate, they have lost the greater proportion of their elite aerier vehicles like the Su-27 fleets. This reality is the reason why the only contemplation to deliver the said Polish Mig-29s to Ukraine is to fly them from the US base in Germany cutting out the larger Ukrainian air routes that are overwhelmingly covered by Russian air defense forces in the besieged areas. Even this now has a problem because Russian forces are now 30km closed to Kiev, which means more air coverage over the territory. Plus the fear of the Russian S-400 that can take out any Ukrainian plane deep in the Kiev sky even though it isn't deployed in Ukraine but operating from Belarus. We haven't even talked of Russian planes and drones as well, and electronic counter measures.

Zelensky isn't calling for a no fly zone for nothing. He knew they have lost much of the sky to the Russians. Facts don't lie.

seunny4lif:

Azeri occupying Armenia territories
It’s shows you don’t know what you are talking about. Research about Nagorno-Karabakh region before you type what you don’t know.

How would he have known when he has his head buried deep in propanganda.

IhateYouMan:
Putin must be boiling with rage

Some recent successes by these drones


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uibMc5JU7j4

Lmao. Fake nonesense. Try next time. 90% of Ukraine's aerier assets, including airfields has been destroyed by the Russians. All first batches of Turkey supplied Bayrakter drones were destroyed by Russia. Ukraine have lost the ability to contest the air with Russia hence their incessant calling for a no fly zone and for planes to be given to them, which no one is ready to give. It's only on doctored and fake videos and Twitter and on the Lamestream media Ukraine is prevailing. They just want to see this country being destroyed. Wicked lying souls.

For instance, on February 25th, The Russian S-400 Triumph deployed to Belarus had it first combat kill when it took out a Ukrianian Su-27 fighter in Kiev. The pilot, Colonel Oleksandr Osanchenko was awarded the title of "Hero of Ukraine" posthumously by Zelensky on March 1st. The shocking thing is that the S-400 killed the pilot and the plane from a distance of 150kms away, setting up a world record.

On March 5, another 4 Ukrainian aeriar vehicles were destroyed by Russian counter air power; 2 Su-27 fighters, one Mi-25 helicopter, and a Bayrakter drone, all at the same time. The Lamestream media will not show you any of these because they want you to believe that Ukraine is thriving when it is dying. Wicked people who are more concerned with selling their news and gaining traffic instead of helping in saving lives by stating the obvious. This is why Ukraine wants a no fly zone by every means because they have lost the ability to contest the air with Russia.

It's pathetic seeing how Ukraine is being hyped and propped on to it's demise.

BritishNaija:
Skyp is being contested over kiev; The No fly zone is for reckless russian cruise and ballastic missiles bombing.

Lmao. A no fly zone for missiles? Don't make me laugh. The Uki skies is being mostly controlled by Russia. This is the reason the west is wary of helping them with fighters. Ukraine have lost the ability to compete on the air.

On February 25th, the Russian S-400 Triumph had it's first combat kill when it took out a Ukrainian Su-27 fighter piloted by Ukrainian Colonel Oleksandr Osanchenko, who Zelensky posthumously awarded "Hero of Ukraine" medal. The shocking thing is that the S-400 located in Belarus destroyed the jet in Kiev which is a range of 150kms away, setting a world record.

On March 5, Russian air defense equipment took out 4 Ukrainian aeriar vehicles, 2 Su-27 fighters, one helicopter and one Bayrakter drone, at the same time. Sorry, Ukraine stand no chance. The Russians dominate the skies and that's why they're calling for a no fly zone.

SIRTee15:
80 per cent is money owed to the govt itself. So long as dollar remain the global currency, America can owe as much as they like, the rest of the world will deal with the inflation.

With all the knowledge acquisition tools available, you're still stuck in the warp belief and misinformation that the government owes 80% of the debt to itself?

nahr:
Zelensky should be happy with this news, it seems like his cries have eventually been heard. Now he can start rebuilding the ruins and Ukrainians can come back home to continue with their lives and businesses. 1 million dollars should be sent to each Ukrainian household as a means of finding their feet back. Also with that huge amount of money Ukraine can build their own nuclear heads and bomb Moscow out of oblivion in retaliation and then the much touted WW3 can start. I have dug out my own bunker incase any missile mistakenly flies over Nigeria.

You're real funny.

Kelvin3476:
ARE U PART OF THE LEADERS OF TOMORROW WITH THIS REASONING ? NIGERIA DIED ON ARRIVAL

He was very correct.

jazon:
Take it or leave it. USA is a good country.

For those supporting Russia. That's how they would have supported Hitler if ww2 happened today

Another misinformed homie. The US is the cause of the problem in Ukraine, so they should foot the humanitarian bill.

Benny6944:
you reason through your anus.

Russia keep condemning fake news, why can't they condemn this news? or deny their commanders weren't killed in combats in Ukraine or they never died or they were dead before Ukraine invasion. stop saying trash here.

Your brain didn't tell you that this is propaganda? Well, I understand.

Remman:
Russia has admitted that 500 troops has died while Ukraine's death toll is around 400 but seems higher all according to news. Well, power isn't by number. In history, 300 men has killed tens of thousands with just their swords and spears. But the current war is a modern one. Ukraine is obviously helped by the US intelligence as they're equiping Ukraine with the right weapon that will actually destroy Russian aircrafts and kill Russian tanks. The Russians are unable to face Ukrainians at Kyiv as the sophisticated weapons with them are hardly missing targets. The France & US's bullets are locked to kill anyone in Russian uniforms when fired. While Russian guns are still just mare AKs. You can't overpower people with higher weapons even if you're numerous.
Ukr - shoot 2 kill 2
Rus - shoot 70 kill 1

God save this brother from western propanganda

nuland:
Putin made the wrong call. I expected Ukraine to fall in a day or 2 considering Russia's might and so-called sophistication but alas they were over hyped.
The US has been helping Kiev with Intel and maybe weapons behind the scene.
Regardless of how this invasion ends Putin's Strength and invincibility has taken a hit.

Baghdad with mighty US firepower supported by NATO allies did not fall for three weeks, and you expect Ukraine to fall in 2 days?

bergs2:
I wonder how you take know all these if you aren't dependent on western media; because am pretty sure you are not running an independent journalism in Ukraine right now.
Russia is losing! Simple.

If you like dey fume for mouth, it yet doesn't change the reality.
Close to 14 days now, Kyiv is still standing.

Putin man! How market?

Yeah, Russia is losing biiig time hence Zelensky is crying for a NATO imposed no fly zone and begging for planes. Keep dreaming.

BritishNaija:
Very mistaken, and Ukraine still has their Airforce operating, And the sky is still being contested.

The sky is not being contested. Otherwise, They wouldn't be asking for a no fly zone.

GardenOfGod:
You must be a Russian Foreign Minister. Analysing with full certainty.

I'm honored to be operating from the Sambisa forest on Nairaland.

IamAtikulate:
I believe the number for three reasons.

1. Russian battle principle is wacked. It allows the military to suffer a lot of collateral damages unlike USA's doctrine that is anchored on minimizing it's casualities.

I would have ignored this but I feel I owe the truth a service to dispel the puerile and outright lies you posted as facts.

War doctrine is not what is written on paper, but what is practiced on the ground when reality kicks in.

Contrary to what you believe, US war doctrine is not anchor on minimizing civilian casualties, only a misinformed jingoist parrot this nonesense. US war doctrine is carpet-bombing the enemy, especially one that puts up relative resistance.

In Iraq, it took the United States and Britain three weeks to take Baghdad, and that was only achieved after carpet-bombing whole civilian populations killing hundreds of thousands of innocent citizens. The truth is bitter.

In Vietnam, it use chemical substances to destroy whole villages killing thousands of innocent women and children, yet ended up losing the war.

For example, it lost over 4.9 million soldiers just to kill 1 million Germans during WW 2. Again, it lost about over 350k soldiers to kill 70,000 Finish soldiers during the winter war.

USA lost a total of about 400,000 soldiers during the WW 2 while Russia lost nearly 5 million repelling Germans alone.

This is another ignorant assertion. Nazi Germany invaded the USSR by surprise, with more than 3 million Nazi troops, the best fighting force on the planet at the time, and in such circumstances, it's normal that they will lose more soldiers than the invading forces. Besides, Nazi-Germany and their Ukrainian collaborators committed war crimes by directly targeting and killing civilians and POWs. The battle of Stalingrad alone claimed so many lives including that of thousands of civilians. Still, it's the same USSR that ended up beaten the Germans back all the way to Berlin, a sacrifice the world is forever grateful for.

The US entered the war late and is normal they have such minimal numbers of death. Plus, never at any time did they face the kind of overwhelming ground troops presence faced by the Soviets. Standing up against 3 million plus troops is no child's play.

USA lost only 12 soldiers and 1 CIA in it's 20 years invasion of Afghan but Russia lost about 9k in it's 10 years of war against Afghans.

Now this is the greatest of the misinformation you have put up here today. USA didn't lose 12 soldiers and one CIA operatives only, what the hell? They lost more than twelve thousand soldiers, and that did not even include paid private military contractors. Please get your facts straight. After 20 years, they lost and simply ran home from Afghanistan with their tail wagging in between their legs, courtesy of Let's Go Brandon.

2. Russian war doctrine allows the use of nuclear threat to descalate conventional warfare. Pulling the nuclear card means Putin wants to descalate the war because he is disadvantaged but unfortunately his Nairaland zombies don't even know Russian doctrine

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Lmao. The US have similar nuclear weapons use doctrine. Don't make me laugh. Please, read here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrine_for_Joint_Nuclear_Operations

Only few countries such as China and India that did not hasvea nuclear first use policy.

NATO, the US and Russia has the same or similar nuclear first use posture. Heck, the US even has a preemptive nuclear strike policy, and reserve the right to use nukes when threatened with overwhelming large scale conventional force.

3. Losing top generals means many of his soldiers will go down. During WW 2, USA lost on average 10,000 soldiers for every 1 general killed. In total, they lost 40 generals out of 1,100 and suffered about 400,000 military deaths.

For a country that entered the war late and did not even face up to half of what the USSR faced yet incurred such losses. These are flawed permutations. Besides, wars are not beans you cook on stoves.

obedience4:
They don't want to capture the capital.. Yet a 40km convey is currently heading to Kiev.. And the Russia military has constantly Shell Kiev and is making advancement to encircled Kiev.. The only thing Putin got wrong was the level of resistance he got.. When the war started Putin said he wanted to disnazified Ukraine and demilitarized Ukraine..
Have you watched his speech that's not someone biding time to negotiate.. He told the France president marcon that he wanted the whole of Ukraine.. If Putin wanted to negotiate after taking total control of the sepretaives held cites he would have stop its advancement instead he is marching to Kiev..
And by Gods Grace he will fail

You are quoting me off context. I never said they don't want to capture the capital. If Russia want to capture the capital Kiev, it won't even take them 48hrs to do so because they have overwhelming and superior airpower and the ground troops to do it. But they are instead using delay tactics to bug down the forces in Kiev so they don't have time to reinforce the besieged Uki forces in Kharkiv, Mariupol and elsewhere. This is a very strategic war. Are you aware that the Russians opened a corridor in the west of Kiev to allow civilians to evacuate? This and more is part of the reason they are delaying a full blown assault on Kiev.

Putin never wanted the whole of Ukraine. It's just normal gibberish from western lamestream media outlets.

Yes, it would have been folly not to have included Kiev as part of the strategic target. Denazification means removing all Nazis-like elements from all echelon of Ukrainian ruling authority, and that include Kiev.

I'm sorry to disappoint you, God does not back ediots who chose to sacrifice their land as the battleground between two great powers. This is the major flaw in Zelensky's foreign policy. He could have stayed neutral like Finland and Sweden but instead allowed himself to be goaded by the west. Now they have abandoned him.

In as much as I detest war, the Ukis brought this upon themselves.

That said, I believe the negotiations will soon reach a compromise because some states in Europe are already getting tense and fed up. It's not funny anymore.

ginggerxy:
major generals do command in the war , even in Nigeria major generals heads most of those operations you hear about . And they're always at the war front too
I think it's from Lieutenant general they stop going

Noted.

obedience4:
You are not well informed.. During the word war 2 the major victory for armies is to target command post were the general are.. As long as you are in the battle field. Either you are in close proximity to where the action is doesn't matters.. As long as you are in the battle field a command post of and enemy general can be targeted....

And you saw the command post targeted by the Ukrainians who don't even have an airforce anymore?

frog12:
common men, 12000 in a few days. dem be cockroaches?

Croacroash better na, dey must be flies...

MERCHANDISER:
Even US and NATO dey fear Russia.
Make una continue dey hype Ukraine and their comedian president till Russia exterminate them from the world map.

Putin is just being too lenient with his younger brother(Ukraine )

Some folks here don't even know that Putin's mother is from Ukraine.

TrueNigerian300:
Thank you for your balanced view this is how every reasonable person should think. Even despite many obvious lies that have been reported I am still surprised people are taking the western propaganda machine serious.If not a fool who will believe a country that has been surrounded with no control of their air space or water space is winning a war? They said Russia army is weak yet the same westerners are scared of confronting Russia even Poland is not ready to deliver fighter jets from their airspace. You can imagine how all of them are thinking of what Russia is capable of doing yet you have novice that have PhD in war telling you others.

I don't blame them. Many of them sold themselves to Hollywood and MSM propanganda and mind control machine where the Muslims are painted as terrorist, Africans as slaves, the Chinese as primitive, the Russians as oppressors, the Jews as victims, the French as fashionable, the British as good colonialist and of course, the Americans as the saviour of mankind.

Thus, to this guy's, if it isn't America, anybody that does it is weak, inferior, dirty, wicked, the devil and so on.

They say Russia is weak despite being in control of the sea and air of the enemy, and having it surrounded within it's major cities, with one city already in their control in less than two weeks. But they forgot that it took the United States a whole THREE WEEKS to take control of Baghdad, and that is even with the support of Britain and other allies who helped in carpet-bombing whole villages and buildings killing one million people.

They say Russia has no modern weapons, because initially it chose to treat Ukraine with kids gloves, did not even deploy the best tanks in its armament, made very scanty use of it's aviation after the first 'shock and awe' forray, despite controlling the skies; rather relying more on standoff weapon strikes. But when it started real bombing for the last 4 days, they cried he is bombing hospitals, schools and killing civilians leaving the city despite glaring footages of members of Ukrainian forces using banned phosphorus and positioning their weaponry in civilian buildings using people as human shields. Can you imagine that one French reporter that reported this was criticized by his people? The world is a real terrible place to be at the moment.
And these guys here forgot that America and NATO after 20 years could not defeat a rag-tag Taliban forces in Afghanistan despite their
"modern weapons". The hypocrisy and double standard is very sad and pathetic.

NATO wanted to goad Poland into delivering it's Mig-29 fighter planes to Ukraine, the choice of Poland is because the Polish border is the only area where those planes can be delivered and that is not even by air. They will have to do it via engine pulled haulers under the cover of night because the Russians are watching the skies from all angles and will shoot down any flying plane once it cross into the Uki airspace. Fortunately, the Pols calculated that the risk will be too enormous so they offered the planes to the US to do the handover to Ukraine. But Pentagon said NO, citing the risk of higher escalation. They knew that ones those planes entered Ukrainian sky, it is "Boom" and believe me, there is nothing anyone can do about it unless if they are crazy enough to start a nuclear war.

Unfortunately, it appears that most of these propangandized folks in here don't even know about this happenings; how the world is just a very thin line away from World War 3. They think this is Hollywood where the US and it's Nationalized American Terrorists Organization'(NATO) can send 5 super soldiers into a city and kill everyone in that city and nothing will hurt them. I feel like weeping reading some of the comments here.

I pray this war ends sooner than later. It's getting too scary for the security of the world.

BritishNaija:
Who sold you that, The Bold?

The last operational military airfield was destroyed by Russian stand off missiles. Or am I mistaken?

Teaser4:
bro no Dey stress yourself … leave em shebi na 12k die, even na 40k die sef, like this Ukraine don Dey attack Moscow, Russians don Dey leave their country dem dey seek for asylum….

I understand, but Gaddamnit! The Psy-ops and mind control is appalling. So many people can't think for themselves anymore. This is bad. You don't have to love or hate one side to see or perceive reality for yourself. Unfortunately, some of our brothers here have chosen to live in false reality.

obedience4:
Yet they haven't taken any major city and Kiev is still standing

It means you are not following the war and Russian strategy. Maybe you do, but mostly from the wrong and strongly bias sources.

The Russian strategy was never to occupy Ukraine. You don't occupy a country the size of Ukriane with 150,000 troops, the majority of which hasn't even tasted action yet. The strategy is to destroy Ukrainian military ability to wage "all-round" war, destroy and reshape the ruling class in Kiev, and forced a redefinition of the country's map/constitution by cutting off the East and adding the larger parts of the Donbass region into the already secured Luhansk and Donetsk People's Republics. Hence, you see the Russian forces concentrated on cities like Mariupol, Kharkiv, Kherson and Odessa. When you take a closer look at the map, what these cities have in common, apart from the sizable ethnic Russian speaking population, they occupy the larger parts of Ukrainian border area with Russia, which Moscow fears poses the greatest threat should Ukraine be member of NATO. If Russia is out to occupy the whole of Ukraine, we would be talking 400-500,000 ground troops, and that doesn't include special forces and military police. In fact, the Russians doesn't have the financial muscle to afford such occupation. Hence they termed this operation "special military operation". The areas mentioned will serve as a perfect buffer for the Russians in case their demand for Ukraine neutrality falls on deaf ears. Those cities coming under strict Russian control like Crimea would render any sense of Ukraine joining NATO less strategic from a US-led NATO point of view. Those are the areas they have surrounded now, while negotiations are currently ongoing in which the Russians have already demanded Ukraine declare neutrality, among other things. Should that fail, then they can secure these areas and use them as buffers. And don't believe the lying lamestream media, they have the capability to take those besieged cities. They're just buying time with the negotiations.

And yes, they already control one of the main targeted cities: Kherson.

YoungBlackRico:
If you don't like the figure, kill yourself nigbayen

Why should I kill myself for Ukraine or Russia? I'm just an observing Nigerian with objective views and logical analysis

I hope you won't act like some foolish Nigerians who queues up to travel to Ukraine and die for people who pushed their kind out off trains and prevent them from crossing borders to safety from the war??

We still love you YoungBlackRico

Wannabenz:
Ukraine wey dey seek help everyday,there president only show up to say he's not hiding. If Ukraine has actually killed over 10,000 soldiers where Dem come retake?

The zombies here will tell you that the areas marked red are computer inks from BBSin geomaps

Heck, the Russians haven't even started advancing en mass on the main cities yet. The strategy is to wear the enemy out by cutting off food supply, arm resupply, water and electricity, while striking inside targets with stand-off missiles and precision guided bombs. Once they're sure of the coast, then they move in for final cleansing. This is what they did in Kherson where they have taken over now. Mariupol, Kharkiv, and Odessa are next in line as they are already surrounded.

The case of Mariupol would be very interesting because that's where you have most of the consentrated infamous Azov Batallion brigades, and it's been rumoured that there are Englishmen on the ground helping them out. God knows what the Russians will do to them.

As for the attack on Kiev, it means that the Ukro army cannot resupply the units surrounded in Mariupol and Kharkiv because they have to try and hold down the Russian advance in the Kiev suburbs, which is a deliberate strategy by the Russians to wear them off while keeping the surrounded forces in the other cities completely cutoff and powerless in the cauldron that has been created around them.

The Ukies seemed to have perceived this strategy because, two days ago, they tried to breakout out of the cauldron but Russian heavy artillery and airpower denied them the chance. For now, they are seriously boxed in, and it's because of this reality Zelensky is seriously requesting a no fly zone by NATO and planes to be given to his army. They knew it's only a matter of time before Kharkiv and Mariupol is taken. Except they reach some form of compromised with the Russians.

I hope peace will return to this country sooner than later.

adedehinbo:
russia is loosing, ukraine is the one crying, yesterday it was reported as 11000 now today it's 12000, does it mean russia is loosing 1000 soldiers per day? Believe western media news at your own dispension

It's pathetic how some Africans reasons. You are killing thousands of Russian soldiers per day yet you're crying for a no fly zone and begging for jets that can't land. These guys are funny.

Quaddafi29:
Propaganda is a war tool but when it gets too British, it becomes childish. You killed 12000 Russians?? Very laughable. Russia has committed 14600 soldiers and you have killed 12000!!!! This aljazeera and BBC propaganda is too disgusting

Very pathetic to even behold. But they won't show you how members or the AZOV Batallion are killing their own men trying to surrender to advancing Russian forces.

Chuvin22:
Just looking a at the numbers alone, common sense should tell you it’s a fvcking lie. But common sense is far from many Nigerians on this forum. More than a thousand armor vehicle, More than 300 armored tank. lol. In less than 3 weeks. How many armored tank Do Russians have in the first place.
12,000 troops dead. Wtf?!
All in less than 3 weeks. WWII nor do numbers reach this invasion oh.

It’s not even a war. It’s a Fvcking INVASION.

One side Dey oppress, the other side Dey resist.

Any goat go just come online post rubbish for the others goats to digest. Young people that are supposed to have thinking brains Dey argue over this rubbish post.

You talk this kind thing for better place dem go conclude say you be mental patient even without visiting psychiatric.

Fake reports everywhere.

You haven't seen anything yet. These guys are so regrettably brainwashed beyond redemption. Imagined a military with no airforce, no navy, and the majority of their troops surrounded in besieged cities by the enemies is winning. Yet the west is planning a Ukrianian government in exile. If you are winning, why call for a no fly zone? Why ask for help from NATO?
These are the same type of people that hyped Zelensky into this regrettable war only to abandon him to his fate when realty kicks in.

I just hope peace would return to Ukraine and let people return to their normal life.

CoronaVirusPro:
You are current.

Israel is also enhancing the radar system of Mig-29`s and why they are getting so much kills with the Mig-29 and Zelensky adamant on the Mig`s

I pray that you don't get Corona virus from this shite. Ukraine getting so much kill with Mig-29? Lmao.

CoronaVirusPro:
When you see what Russia is deploying to Ukraine, you will believe those numbers.

Everything about them is outdated. Old soviet union scraps.

Take a look at the hunters they soldiers, and tell me you dont believe that count.

This is a Russian military train.... Judge by yourself

Western propaganda don't win wars.