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Foreign AffairsRe: Japan Sends Biggest Warship To Protect US Supply Vessel by Appleyard(m): 1:25am On May 04, 2017
MONITZ:
After the Second World War, I thought Japan signed a treaty that bars her from participating or investing in anything war? ,maybe I am wrong after all, can someone in the house throw more light on this?

Cc;

Zohorariel..

NairaMinted ..

Scully 95..

Explorer. ..

Appleyard..
The so-called treaty only barred Japan from mass producing offensive weapons of war, not defensive. The recent moves Japan have been making so far, is in line with the 2015 parliament passage of a bill authorising the deployment of Japanese armed forces in any crisis theatre that would otherwise impact significant consequences on the national security of Japan.

But, like i have always said, the vultures are gathering for the great feast...Most developed nations of the world knows the big one is coming, and they are all preparing for it.... As it stand now, the chances that the world will surely see another world war is gradually coming to a definite conclusion.....Already, it's becoming rife, approaching a point of inevitability.

Alois Irlmaier's prophecy quickly comes to mind......


Watch the Balkans.......
Foreign AffairsRe: North Korea Threatens Israel With 'merciless, Thousand-fold Punishment' by Appleyard(m): 1:09am On May 04, 2017
MONITZ:
And u think u would be making sense to a guy whose mind and ideals re set in stone?

No amount of preaching can /will change his perception of things. To him Israel is being oppressed not minding that in reality Israelis re the real oppressors... And he can be excused for being naive because his knowledge of international politics is not deep enough to comprehend the fact that ISRAEL is Janus faced...
Lol... I am a Christian and i know what the Bible says about Israel. But that doesn't mean i should support lies and propaganda when i see one. That Israel are God's chosen people doesn't deny the fact that they are oppressors and black haters. Jesus never taught his people to support evil and dine with the Devil. Anyone applauding what Israel is doing to Palestinian Children is anti-Christ. And anyone supporting a government that is knowingly backing terrorism is of the synagogue of Satan...Revelation 3 made that very clear....

Some people are just too sentimental to see truth and stand for it.
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Calls North Korean Leader A 'pretty Smart Cookie' by Appleyard(m): 10:07pm On May 03, 2017
seunny4lif:
Oya go and sleep.
It's midnight over there abi na Chicago you dey grin dey fear boyz cos fear no dey allow una sleep but seriously FBI is investigating but the media are fixed up with NK stories grin
The media have all gone quite suddenly... Think about it...
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Calls North Korean Leader A 'pretty Smart Cookie' by Appleyard(m): 8:43pm On May 01, 2017
Zoharariel:
Trump is a pvssy-grabbing nonentity with balls of tissue-paper and I'll tell you Y. grin

1.) He pvssied out of getting Mexico to pay for the badly-needed border wall grin

2.) He pvssied out of telling Xi Jinping (Chinese President) to his face that China is a currency manipulator grin

3.) He pvssied out of ripping up NAFTA grin

4.) And now, he just pvssied out of invading North Korea after whining & running his mouth like tap water in Ijebu grin

Pls, can anyone remind me again of the purpose of the Amerikan floating bathtub “USS Carl Vinson” stationed in the Korean peninsula? grin

Have I not be saying it that Amerika is only good at attacking vastly inferior adversaries like Libya, Afghanistan & Iraq? grin

Now, where are all the toddlers that were insulting Kim Jong-Un & cheering Trump? Y'all should come kneel before Kim & kiss his pinkie ring grin

I want Amerika to make a mistake of attacking or bombing North Korea so that Russia’s superior weaponry, coupled with China’s almost infinitely huge infantry, & Hezbollah unbeatable guerrilla warefare tactics can be employed to balkanize that abominable Country into small pieces. Hahahahahahahaaaa grin cheesy grin
call it game of thrones! the man is simply stating the fact, after all, mission has been accomplished. he has successfully diverted attention from the heat facing him.....All the Main Strea,m Ministires of truth are no longer parroting about Russiangate and the rest...The thing just evaporated like spirit....Now, he can say what he wanted...
Foreign AffairsRe: North Korea Threatens Israel With 'merciless, Thousand-fold Punishment' by Appleyard(m): 8:33pm On May 01, 2017
cristianisraeli:
i think you should worry more about boko haram and fulani herdsmen in your backyard..you can believe what you want..even if 1 jew was killed it means something..you think its like nigeria where they dont value human life?where a cattle is placed above an average nigerian..please say something else
When kids are caught pants down lying, they resort to frivolities... What concern Nigeria with Israel in a lie you put up above? I simply pointed out something for you to realise the real fact, and all you could do was to bash your own Country... Ride on with your Jewish supremacy fallacy, but you forget something..God will judge this world by His Word, and that word is Jesus Christ, not some Jews.....

Adieu...
Foreign AffairsRe: North Korea Threatens Israel With 'merciless, Thousand-fold Punishment' by Appleyard(m): 6:41pm On May 01, 2017
cristianisraeli:
when i say people should read history first...north korea invaded the south and thats what started the korean war and which neighbouring countries did israel conquer..u mean the lands they took after the arabs armies invaded them?the arabs were warned..do not attack israel..do not attack and they did,trust me if any arab country decide to attack israel today..they will loose their country and not just few lands..u mean hamas,hezbolah,isis in sinai and islamic jihad and others are defenceless people..let me tell u the people that were defenceless..it was jews during the holocust..when 6million of them got killed..theres a reason why north korea and iran shouldnt have nuclear weapons and let me explain..just imagine abacha getting his hands on nuclear weaponshuh

On June 25, 1950, the Korean War began when some 75,000 soldiers from the North Korean People’s Army poured across the 38th parallel, the boundary between the Soviet-backed Democratic People’s Republic of Korea to the north and the pro-Western Republic of Korea to the south. This invasion was the first military action of the Cold War. By July, American troops had entered the war on South Korea’s behalf. As far as American officials were concerned, it was a war against the forces of international communism itself. After some early back-and-forth across the 38th parallel, the fighting stalled and casualties mounted with nothing to show for them. Meanwhile, American officials worked anxiously to fashion some sort of armistice with the North Koreans. The alternative, they feared, would be a wider war with Russia and China–or even, as some warned, World War III. Finally, in July 1953, the Korean War came to an end. In all, some 5 million soldiers and civilians lost their lives during the war. The Korean peninsula is still divided today

http://www.history.com/topics/korean-war
Get your facts right. 6 million Jews killed was the hall mark of post-WW2 propanganda. The entire population of Jews then was not even up to 5 million, not mention 6 million. Jews were killed by Hitler, but the 6million figure was a lie from the pit of hell...
Foreign AffairsRe: Don't Buy The Reports About Russia's Scary E-weapons by Appleyard(m):
Zoharariel:
We have not bought any reports about Russia's scary e-weapons; we were only ruminating about the following CONFIRMED facts grin cheesy grin

1.) What frightened the USS Donald Cook So Much At The Black Sea

www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html

2.) How the New Iranian-Russian Technology “Magrav” Checkmate the US Navy

www.stankovuniversallaw.com/2015/03/how-the-new-iranian-russian-technology-magrav-checkmate-the-us-navy/

3.) TOP NATO GENERAL:
RUSSIA BUILDING ANTI-ACCESS BUBBLE OVER SYRIA - General Breedlove

www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Top-NATO-general-Russia-building-anti-access-bubble-over-Syria-419393

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/09/29/top-nato-general-russians-starting-to-build-air-defense-bubble-over-syria/?utm_term=.c41531890692
He that have an ear, let him hear. cool

Yeah we don't boast about nothing nor give a dime about fake news! I am a realist, so are all my souljas that throd across the alienic craters of Siberia, located in Nairaland. Thus, in addition to what thou have said, I want to make it clear; Russian weapons are made to work, and that is a fact, as against the sheer propaganda America is known for. No need delving into history, let me just do them a favour by citing some recent and not too distant examples:

1. The Lies of the Untouchable --

America and its mendacious fans claims that none of their fleet careers can be reached, not to mention being destroyed. But in 2007, during a US Navy live fire training exercise, a Chinese Song class submarine (a sister version of the Russian Kilo Klass Submarine) bypassed all the accompanying ships of the US fleet career group, undetected, and rose up some feets away, just behind the Career itself. When the American navy discovered what has happened, they were so angry and disappointed. The myth that NOTHING can get close to a US Navy Career Group has been effectively torn to shred and totally dissipated. And what does it signified? It means that if it were to be in a real war scenario, the Chinese Sub would easily have taken out the overrated Career Bathroom sitting dock in the sea before the other ships would realise what is cooking, the damage would have been complete. Little wonder the navy captain was so infuriated. For he just realised then that his life and that of his men were all along hanging on a platform of propaganda.


How about that for propaganda that some kids down here still chose to believe till date. Pathetic!

2. Continuous Career Dissipation --

Just like the Incident with the Chinese sub, the Hampshire incident then occurred, but the real deal that continue to unravel the lies behind they so-called unreachable and indestructible Fleet Career is the incident that happened in a NATO naval training exercise in 2014. During the exercise, a 30 year old French submarine destroyed the US Theodore Roosevelt and even took down some of the accompanying ships of the Career group. The badasss French military could not contain their joy, and they put the story on their website for two days. But in order to save the Americans the embarrassment, they took it down. Of course, it has to be so, so that the fraudulent money flow to the MIC will continue. Bad business if the arm committee in Congress gets to know that an overrated US Career was sunk by a 30 years old French Submarine. Believe me, if Roosevelt was alive, he would have gone to court to obtain an order of mandamus seeking to remove his name from such a worthless floating bathroom. May his soul rest in peace, but the US navy says he MUST rest in pieces.

But as usual, some of my friends down here still continue to revere in such propaganda.

Pathetic!

3. Flying coffins -- This is one area in which I really feel sorry for a lot of American die harders and jingoists. Its like some folks are wired to die with their eyes wide open.

The F-35 as we know it is the greatest boondoggle of the modern era. Australia is contemplating pulling the plug on the deal, even Trudeau of Canada has confirmed the thing doesn't work. Yet, my jingoistic minded friends from Langley can't stop singing its praise. Pathetic.

They said there is no plane on earth like the B2 but they want another in the F35. Just like the B2 (which has only manage to drop 5 bombs in all of its carrier) was a scam, so too is the F-35-a plane that can neither run nor turn. But who cares, says the establishment? Americans are certified victims of scam.

Now, we are left with one option - the F- 22 Raptors. At least, this ones flies, but wait a minutes; as we speak, the DOD is complaining that all their planes are been "painted" by Russian defence equipments in Syria, and we know they have been flying the F22 multiple times across Syria. grin Now you know why Erdogan is crawling on all fours begging Russia to sell the S-400. grin The F-22 is been painted in Syria by Russia's surface to air defence systems, which means the plane is just another flying coffin...

Pathetic!



4. Facts Don't Lie -- Just as positivism intertwined with realism, so too actions compliments the evidence.

Fact: General Harris of the US forces to Europe confessed that they were in the Ukraine to learn about how Russia's EWS works. and he have this to say, "I have not seen such effectiveness before."

Meaning the credibility of Russian EWS are never in doubt, dear Mazeltovscotty

Facts: The United States fired 59 cruise missiles into Syria and only 23 got to their destination. What happened to the remaining 36? Swallowed by Putin? Probably right, because such a large number just can't develop cold feet and crash on their own.. Therefore, the acclaim theory that they were taken down by the Russian EWS is probable, though not definite, especially if the Trumpster is in cahoot with the Russians...

Fact: Turkey, an enemy wants to buy the S-400. Why would an enemy--a NATO member state wants to buy a defense system from the block's perceived greatest enemy-Russia? What happened to the patriot and the rest?

It is clear, the Turkish interest alone shows that the S-400 and its accompany EWS has no rival at the moment. Is as simple as that. Their interest and the aggressive desire to purchase it by every means must have been driven by the events secretly taking place over the skies in Syria. They have the Icirlik airbase where the Americans are lodged and they knew all about the S-400 painting of US planes, including the suppose invisible plane - F-22


Evidential Conclusion

From what we have seen above, it is clear that why all sides are capable of propaganda here and there, one side lives by it, (the US) while the other simply let the facts speak for themselves (the Russians) as seen clearly above.


So, dear Mazeltovscotty, let it be known to thee this day that Russian weapons are made to work, and even a member of the enemy can't deny that fact, and that's why they are begging to buy. cool

But as for Uncle Sam, don't you ever completely doubt the Donald Cook story, especially with the resignation of some members of the crew because if similar story of US marines crying like babies in the hands of Iranian navy wasn't released with pictures and video to show the world, people like you would also have doubted. cool

So take a chill, young warlock and advise any one you know working in the US never to enlist in a military bubble of propaganda, and if he or she will never listen, then advice him or her not to come close to the black sea, nor in Debalsevo. Otherwise, there would be a second cauldron.

Adieu! cool
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 1:14pm On Apr 18, 2017
obixcel:
Ok, you are insinuating that the Syria Strike was to deflect from the Trump-Russian bruhaha? Don't get me wrong, it may or may not be d case, but the alleged Trump-Russian connection has till date not yielded any clear evidence of collusion.
I strongly believe Trump purposely did what he did in Syria to achieve some stated objective back home. There was no shred of evidence the attack was carried out by Syria n forces. Till date the CIA (Central Institute of Anarchy) cannot provide any evidence, and those who think that Trump was sucked in by the war party and the deep state to initiate the attacks, might be right, but the man is no fool. He knew what he was doing.

Now Russiangate is crumbling as we speak, and his approval ratings has jumped to 50%. This is politics, and deception is part of the game, even when the real intent is different.

I repeat; Trump knew what he was doing. cool
Foreign AffairsRe: Massive Explosion Rocks Syria by Appleyard(m): 12:58pm On Apr 18, 2017
fakeprophet:
Massive Explosions As Putin Drops 'New Type Of Bomb' In Syria
Footage which reportedly show Russian jets dropping bombs on rebel forces in Syria has emerged.
Massive explosions were filmed in the towns of Souran, Taibat al-Imam, Halfaya and Lataminah in Hama Province, Al Masdar News reports.
The news outlet claims that the airstrikes were carried out by five Russian warplanes and two helicopters; it also claims that the footage shows a new type of bomb being used.
A recent report claimed that President Putin had been working on a 'secret bomb' that was four times as powerful as the weapon the US used to attack ISIS in an Afghan hideaway, and carries 44 tonnes of TNT. However, it's not known if it was this bomb used in these recent airstrikes.
Russia has faced a lot of criticism over the large number of civilian casualties following its bombing of Syria.
Its such unfortunate that Syria has become a testing ground for all sorts of weapons.

here is the new bomb the Russians dropped recently that is causing eyewitnesses to stammer for words.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 12:28pm On Apr 18, 2017
Lucasbalo:
He was pointing out your hypocrisy about your cosmic garbage about trump being ecclesiastical anointed by God. All of a sudden , trump is showing himself as a classic conman that he's and you are trying to deflect that. To many Americans that fell for trump's scam, it's a game of buyers remorse.
Know, he wasn't. Whether we believe it or not, Trump was commissioned to win, but that doesn't mean people can't call him out when he is wrong or being deceptive. Are you aware that following the recent Trump warlike show, the so-called Russiangate is now taking the back seat? One of the bodies which claimed earlier that Trump was interacting with the Russians has withdrawn its claims. How about that for thought?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:01pm On Apr 17, 2017
schwarzkopf:
Hey you piece of sh1t, go through your previous posts and see the gutless, brainless simpleton and two faced loser you are.
As usual, kids gat nothing to offer.
Foreign AffairsRe: World War 3 Is Now Inevitable - China by Appleyard(m): 11:59am On Apr 17, 2017
HEIR:
lol, outer space indeed..... Hollywood movies has been deceiving you. Na international space station carry the nukes?
Foreign AffairsRe: World War 3 Is Now Inevitable - China by Appleyard(m): 11:58am On Apr 17, 2017
Bridget95:
keep dreaming. do you know how many nuclear warhead the US has outer space that it can descend on Russia and China and have them wiped off the earth in a case of total war?
Fanfare fantasy.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:45am On Apr 17, 2017
schwarzkopf:
you are a f***king brain fart contradictions, in one breathe drumpf is the greatest thing after slice bread. Just to take a 360 after a pressure on your so loved hellhole in Russia. Get a life plonker and go jump off from a cliff.
u

360? grin on Russia? grin

Russia gat Nada to do with this. You are been treated to the greatest illusion ever. Did you see the new bomb the Russians dropped in Syria recently?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:24am On Apr 17, 2017
TapDance:
Trump is an egomaniac, WTF
Would you drop expensive bombs on ISIS caves, Just to prove superiority to Putin...No sense.
$300 million Dollars worth bomb dropped on tunnels built by the CIA, and some folks here are rejoicing. grin

Stupidity can never be better explained. I sometimes wonder if the cavemen have not be warned before hand, since Al Qaeda is a pet project of the CIA.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:06am On Apr 17, 2017
Missy89:
MOAB dropped in Afganistan
And it was dropped on tunnels built by the CIA. Waste of money.
Foreign AffairsRe: US Drops The "Mother Of All Bombs" In Afghanistan by Appleyard(m): 11:06pm On Apr 13, 2017
Missy89:
Fantastic.
Fantastic? How?
Foreign AffairsRe: US Drops The "Mother Of All Bombs" In Afghanistan by Appleyard(m): 11:01pm On Apr 13, 2017
Zoharariel:
Appleyard of Moskow - Let us hope the Cosmic Order will help us redeem Missy89. grin cheesy grin

Meanwhile, Cyprus000 a.k.a Poseidon000, GTkester & Shym3xx a.k.a have gone on AWOL & must be sanctioned by the Council of The Irunmoles grin
I don't really know what has become of the three brigadier-generals you mentioned. Cyprus000 a.k.a Poseidon000 is what really worry me the most. Intel received from the Vladisvostock regional Command of the Sambisa's forest 67th brigade strategic nuclear forces, as reported from the Kremlin, stated that the mole, Missy89, has successfully ''Delilah'' him and sent him to sub-zero in the Philipines.... embarassed The council of the Irunmoles must be convene and the full wrath of Oghene and the Russian FOAB must be brought to bear upon this rebellious daughter of Eve! shocked

I demand compensation for this betrayal! grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: US Drops The "Mother Of All Bombs" In Afghanistan by Appleyard(m): 10:46pm On Apr 13, 2017
Missy89:
At least get your gibberish straight.
So what is your take about the MOAB drop? Necessary, unwarranted or completely reckless? undecided
Foreign AffairsRe: US Drops The "Mother Of All Bombs" In Afghanistan by Appleyard(m): 10:26pm On Apr 13, 2017
Zoharariel:
If you believe that Amerika has ever targeted & bombed ISIS or Al-Qaeda, then you might as well believe in Santa Clause grin

Think about it - If Amerika is so much against Al-Qaeda & ISIS and wishes to terminate them, why over the last 5 years are more of Amerika's tax paying dollars going to Al-Qaeda & ISIS fighting Amerika’s proxy war in Syria against Bashar Al-Assad’s government forces? grin

And why was Al-Qaeda the first hired guns on the ground to go into Libya right after the Amerika-NATO bombings in 2011?

And why to this day after removing the supposed bad guy in Libya - Muammar Gaddafi are Al-Qaeda still in control in Libya? grin

And why does Al-Qaeda & ISIS keep showing up as Amerika’s surrogate troops on the ground in Nations around the world, wherever Amerika's foreign policy agenda calls for destabilization & regime change?



This line of questioning is just as valid and in need of answering from Amerikan keyboard defenders like Missy89, ValerianSteel & that asshole called CSTR55 grin cheesy grin
Oh! Missy89 will tell you the DOD is sending the Taliban a message wink while ISIS still reigns in Syria, Libya and Iraq - places where America's hand of atrocity hold sway.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:06pm On Apr 11, 2017
Missy89:
ignorant tomatoeyard.
grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Putin Considers US Attack In Syria Aggression Against Sovereign State - UPDATES by Appleyard(m): 4:51pm On Apr 11, 2017
NairaMinted:
Like Libya, Iraq and others, Syria has been targeted for destruction. It doesn't matter if an investigation has been made into these chemical attacks. The hegemon is desperate seeing that their head chopping, liver eating "moderates" after 6 years can't get the job done and are actually on the back foot. Either Trump just two days after declaring Assad could stay in power has either been fooled into this stupid action or he's buying time with the war thirsty Deep State.
I will subscribe to the bolded. Trump is no fool. He is just fooling the deep state, and even some of them knows it already. But, if actually he is caving in to the blood thirsty sycophants and Satanist in Washington and beyond, then we can expect more drama to play out very soon. However, I doubt if anything will happen. He can't afford to strike at Korea without igniting the wrath of China who already have troops amassed at the border. There is no way Korea will be involved in a war and China won't intervene. Trump must have calculated all these scenarios except someone can tell me it's only dead brains we have in Pentagon.

Concerning Syria..everything points to the fact that the recent American attack was a charade....because it doesn't make one single sense at all. I might still be wrong, but I don't see any further justification to believe otherwise.

The next few weeks will reveal the true intent of these actions.

Lets wait and see.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 4:19pm On Apr 11, 2017
Missy89:
Lol. Look in the mirror. Only cranks live in false reality and you are one of them.
grin each time you are caught in between your web of mendacity, you resort to cranker dissipation...grin

Why don't you tell us how the US DOD was sending a message to Assad by informing them ahead of the attack....grin ? lol

Missy, where is your patriotism? A patriot should be worried that his or her country fired 59 missiles at a country that's almost defenseless and only 23 got to their destination. wink and did virtually no damage at all. Every patriotic ex serviceman and woman would worried about that, but missy89 claimed her DOD was sending a clear message. grin by taking out planes lying idly in mechanical hangers. grin

Your level of jingoism is worse than I thought.

I guess we now know who is living in false reality. wink
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Did Trump Bomb A Syrian Airbase Instead Of Assad's Palace? by Appleyard(m): 3:47pm On Apr 11, 2017
jjamani:
If Trump wanted to send a massage to Assad, wouldn't it be more loud and clear If Assad residences looks like a war Zone?

Your opinions are needed here.
The whole thing was just a hoax....
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Did Trump Bomb A Syrian Airbase Instead Of Assad's Palace? by Appleyard(m): 3:46pm On Apr 11, 2017
Zoharariel:
Dear Mr. TheWebGeek1,

I need you to build me an international agricultural website
but in order for me to ascertain you're the best man for the
job, I will give you 2 websites to clone & replicate with all their functions.

1.) The Amerikan Department of Defense Website: I will give you a copy of my passport photograph. You will photoshop it by removing the head of General Joe Dunford
(The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) in the link below, and then replace it with my photoshopped head - I am not joking grin

https://www.defense.gov/Leaders

2.) The Amerikan Federal Reserve (Central Bank) Website: With my passport photograph, you will photoshop & replace the photograph of Mr. Stanley Fischer (The Vice Chairman of The Governing Board of The Federal Reserve System) from the link below

https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/default.htm

Remember, we're in war. WW3 commenced the day Trump bombed an empty Syrian hanger filled with decommissioned aircrafts instead of the bastard to direct his missiles towards Assad's underground bunker but that is none of our business. grin cheesy grin

Our business therefore is to utilize this rare opportunity to our advantage. grin cheesy grin

Kindly forward your name, address & bank account details
via the email on my profile if my terms & conditions are acceptable to you. grin

Looking forward to working with you - soonest! Hahahahahahahaaa! grin cheesy grin
grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: 'Ready For Real War' Iran And Russia Warns Trump They Will Retaliate If.. by Appleyard(m): 2:37pm On Apr 10, 2017
nemesis2u:
without independent battle damage assessment , it would be wise not to fall into propaganda from either side.

warning was recieved by the russians well half an hour before , so common sense dictates every flyable assets were moved out pronto.

so chances r high that only cannibalized aircrafts / derelict aircrafts were hit in addition to damage to ammo/maintenance dumps/hangers etc
You get sense
Foreign AffairsRe: 'Ready For Real War' Iran And Russia Warns Trump They Will Retaliate If.. by Appleyard(m): 2:32pm On Apr 10, 2017
Exjoker:
In as much as I don't support any USA missile attack into Syria a sovereign country, I don't also support Syria use of chemical weapons on civilian. But considering the fact that Assad regime has been warn many times on the use of chemical weapons, The US warning strike is welcome. Oh thanks to old Soviet era weapons - Russia can match the US in a long and distance war in it today's economy.
Give me one reason why would Assad use chemical weapons in a war he is winning already? Trump is just acting or else, he is been deceived by the deep state.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 12:07am On Apr 10, 2017
mojeer678:
I prefer this version better:

Syria update
There are many theories floating around about syria. Some people are saying it was an act of desperation by Trump. Others are saying it was a chess move, where he tested Russia's S-300 and S-400 missile systems. Others think as I do, and that he caved to the neocons. WHATEVER THE SITUATION, HERE IS THE OUTCOME SO FAR:

Inexplicably, 60 missiles were fired, 1 fell into the ocean, 59 headed to Syria successfully, and 23 made it. That's bad. If Russia's S-300 and S-400 missile systems caused that, IT IS BAD.

So much sense. so much sense.

People don't seem to understand that you don't need a 100 percent kill rate on something like a cruise missile to have a weapons system like the S-400 be a success. I'd gauge outrageous success at a 30 percent hit rate on something like a cruise missile. That would be an AMAZING success. If twice that was lost to Russian missile defenses, it represents total doom for the United States. Why would that be? The answer is easy:

If Russia has a missile system so good it can nail cruise missiles better than half the time, it also means that it will have an extremely high success rate while shooting down aircraft. Aircraft are not expendable single use weapons. To make it worthwhile to have an aircraft it has to fly successfully many many times, at least 100 times. If there is something out there that will, on average, make it possible to fly an aircraft only twice you might as well give up before you even start.

Obviously we don't know if the super high failure rate was due to Russian missile defenses or if it was due to good Russian jamming, or if it was due to cruise missiles that were crap. I doubt they were crap. But we do now know that Russia is not a helpless victim in waiting.

If Russian defenses took out so many missiles, then the obvious best Russian retaliatory/defensive tactic would be:

1. Nuke the warships, and 2. Take the aircraft out with advanced missiles.

America without question has the world's most powerful navy. In fact, America's navy is twice or more as capable as the entire rest of the world combined. But nukes are a serious problem for warships, I'd call the U.S. Navy little more than a way to project power into nations that don't have nuclear weapons. Up against Russia, the navy is toast. Even Kim Jong could probably take the navy out. And the U.S. Navy is such a menace that not nuking it if you could would be the real life manifestation of "Dumb and Dumber". I doubt Russia would be stupid enough to just let the Navy stick a hot fire poker wherever it wanted.

Going up against the U.S. Navy without a nuclear response available would be equal to getting nuked. A nuclear response would be the only correct answer. Therefore, Trump had better keep the navy parked and do nothing against Russia because only one thing will happen if Trump sends a significant portion of the navy to fight Russia: 165 or more U.S. warplanes will be in the air, and have no place to land.

I do not think a war against Russia will be winnable
I don't think a war against China would be winnable. Probably not even India. You might have luck against Pakistan. You would win against North Korea after significant losses. And the answer to why is easy: You can't send a navy against decent quality nukes. Pakistan has very crappy nukes so they are "iffy". But I'd bet Kim Jong could score between 3 and 7 Nimitz class aircraft carriers all by himself. China would eat them all, plus a lot of the U.S. mainland. Russia would be at least 5x worse than China.

The bottom line is that it does not matter how many toys you have, or what your budget is when the people you are attacking have nukes. Nukes are the great equalizer, 20 equal the entire U.S. Navy, that cost 1000 or more times as much. When Russia has many thousands, screwing with that is idiot's play. There is no conceivable way you'd not get hit enough to wipe you out, even if you had a 99 percent kill rate against them.

Let's hope cool heads prevail. But there is a problem: They probably will not, because Israel could care less about America, and has a zombie tap right into America's brain. Israel won't mind poking the bear as long as they can fully put the blame on someone else. THAT is the real danger, don't count on cool heads prevailing when evil people have motives and can cause others to die while accomplishing their goals on behalf of evil.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:49pm On Apr 09, 2017
Missy89:
That's easy.

Doctrine of proportionality
No, my lady. It's doctrine of false reality.
Foreign AffairsRe: Each Tomahawk Missile Costs About $ 1 Million by Appleyard(m): 7:03pm On Apr 09, 2017
bookface:
You think 1 million dollars is a lot of money for a government that spends 2 trillion in Iraq and Afghanistan ?
And that is the whole point: get involved, spend much money and let us (the establishment) reap mad profits..
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 6:29pm On Apr 09, 2017
Missy89:
We both know why you are mad at Trump.

You expected a different foreign policy and even said something about the cosmic order electing him. Now that you have realized that won't happen, you are back to your pootine ass eating mode.

The strange part is that you have aligned yourself with people like Lucas and his liberal friends who wants to punish your kremlin masters for the election
Lmao! grin Nobody expect anything to change radically in US Foreign Policy. My support for a Trump presidency was based on the fact that America's military interventionism globally would experience some drawback, by weakening the foothold of the establishment; which is the reason they hate him that much. His election was signed, sealed by the cosmic to buy time for the souls that are still outside of redemption. ( I know you won't understand; only spiritualist does. cool) Otherwise, he won't change anything. The fate of the United States has already been sealed way before Trump was born.

Stop being naive. I have not align with anybody. My point was very clear: the recent Washington authorised missile strike on Syria was a Trump act, a ruse to digress pressure from his administration in the face of Russiangate claims and so on. Except you can explain how you send a message to your enemy by firing at them after making sure they are not in the line of fire prior to an alert from you before the attack took place.

It make sense to you, but it doesn't make any sense to logical minds like me. cool That's the difference Missy... wink
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 5:31pm On Apr 09, 2017
oyb:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-airport-idUSKBN1792XA



so exactly what went down? an expensive fireworks display ? or is this more of the trump we know, all show and no substance?
Ask Missy89; she believe the DOD was ONLY sending a clear message... grin

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