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DMerciful:
Answer the question directly. Why do you hate Igbos and want them in the same country with you?

Tell us you hate Igbos and stop ascribing that hate and bile in you for the Igbos to me.

nku5:
Adaka Boro gathered some guys, raided a police station and looted weapons, blew a few pipelines and kidnapped some people within a small area the size of Lekki. Not even up to the level of militancy that Ateke Tom and co were doing few years ago. How can anybody who knows what he's talking about compare it to declaration of Biafra.

Excuses for same crime committed by two different groups, big or small, they are both guilty

gidgiddy:
Exactly. And some ignorant people will blame Ojukwu for the war

Who do we now blame for the attack on Adaka Boro and his men for the same crime Ojukwu later committed?

DMerciful:
When Igbos declared seccession, they did not kill or attacked anyone. It was Nigeria that brought the war to Biafra. What I don't understand is why you hate Biafrans so much and still insist they be in Nigeria. Someone should not like what they hate and hate what they like, its absurd!
Why do you want Igbos to be in Nigeria even though you hate them?

Adaka Boro declared his Niger Delta republic and was he attacked and by who?
If he was attacked what makes you think that the declaration of Biafra by Ojukwu won't be attacked?

Dedetwo:
I do not deal with links. Please research through the reading books.

No links and we are supposed to believe in hearsays, fair enough

Dedetwo:
You are very unenlightened. Anyway, it has always being the case of Nigeria. Araba riot started on May 29. 1966 and end September 1967 after the Nigeria/Biafra war had started. The shout of Araba stopped only when the British diplomats informed the goons from northern region of Nigeria that their silly region cannot feed itself. In fact, they were resourcefully informed by the Britsh that Chad and Niger will be better than the Republic of Arewa.

Your link to that please

Dedetwo:
As you write the above crap, you have not even realize the unworkability of the shithole called Nigeria yet you point accusing fingers on others.

Do the right thing and change the status quo instead of always apportioning blames on others about what happened in the past, that's what the article was all about

AkpaMgbor:
So nzeogwu an anioma man in present day felt state is now an Igbo man?? He becomes igbo when it suits your narrative and nigerdeltan when it comes to secession and Igbo unity?? Your tricks have become stale.

He has been Igbo to me right from time even if some of his people still have this identity crisis.
So you, your and other pronouns you're using for yourself is up to you

I can't believe this very important thread hasn't gotten to the 10th page already.
Those Biafran kids just avoiding the thread because they can't counter the points raised

sultanodudua:
[s][/s]Yyeske the igbo wannabe who was busted not too long ago as a yoruba miscreant based in Nkpor i don't need to counter any point that have already been debunked in previous threads.

I had been Yeske!, later yeske2 (both pro Biafra), later yyeske and now area4area (anti IPOB and Biafra for obvious reasons). I don't use others.
You busted yourself and not me or you open another thread for my case and stop derailing this thread. You even sound like that Malawian noise maker

Sanchez01:
You do believe in cause and effect, right?

How do you expect him to know that?

NimrodEndOfDays:
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Does your cancelling change the truth, absolutely not.

sultanodudua:
This hate filled insecure and bitter yorubas always recycling the same garbage year in year out. When will these cowards grow up.

Why not counter those points raised so it won't be raised next time

7lives:
Compulsory history class will format their brains.

I don't even think so, the hate and braggadocio is already ingrained in some people's DNA that even if their parents should tell them otherwise today, they'd rather dissociate from their parents than accept the truth.

Sanchez01:
I don't want to dwell on the weapon of starvation as warfare the Nigerian Government used on the then Eastern region. I honestly don't. I wish I could re-upload the Associated Press videos on my laptop and then share the links but last time I tried, they were removed from YouTube immediately on violation grounds.

Below are some things to take away from the clips:

1. Ojukwu's 'world press' conference prior the war saw him boasting that the Nigerian government would be surprised. He grinned and stroked his beard in the interview which had so many white pressmen around him. He claimed food had been saved to last his people for so long. This video is still on YouTube, on AP's channel.

2. Ojukwu's mercenaries from Sweden and Belgium trained and worked with the Biafran soldiers and left months after he had no money to pay them. This is also on AP's channel.

3. When the Nigerian Army blocked Port Harcourt, Ojukwu knew he had been dealt a major blow but went on and food ran out among the people. Whatever food was left got stashed in Ojukwu's mansion on his order. From there, he feed only his family and the family of his high-ranking soldiers. Taken down from AP's channel. I saw it at some point but couldn't find it again. Fortunately, it was part of the videos I downloaded on the war from AP's channel.

4. With no food and farms destroyed, the people resorted to feeding off corpses. It started with enemy soldiers until it became almost all corpses. There is a video of how this started on AP's channel.

5. Famine in the Eastern region took a different dimension when younger boys would go very far into war territories to look for corpses. As it became dangerous to proceed, the younger ones felt it more. The war could have been ended on account of the people but Ojukwu immediately asked the white press men attached to his mansion to do another world press conference and a documentary of the starving children. It would later be sent to Europe. The initial goal was to get the military and support from certain European countries. This should still be available on AP's channel.

6. The UN rallied and sent several aids through drop planes to the Eastern region and also missionaries who set up a refuge camp to look after the starving people. I'm sure we've all seen this one video.

7. Ojukwu wanted to use the UN drop planes to bring in more weapons which the UN didn't agree to. The UN claimed it only render aids and not take part in wars. An obviously frustrated and angry Ojukwu barred UN planes from bringing food and medical supplies as he perceived the UN as an enemy since they weren't willing to 'help his people'. To cover this, he sacked all white press men attached to his mansion as they started negative reporting against Ojukwu and the AP claimed 'he was more interested in his ego than his people'. This video should still be on YouTube. A further indictment by the FBI some years ago fingered Ojukwu and Gowon as the primary culprits responsible for the death of several.

8. Ojukwu's last blow was the advancement of his army to 'seize Lagos'. Unfortunately, he was dealt a heavy blow at Ore and that accounted as his major defeat and the decisive loss that led to his fleeing surrender.

9. Meanwhile, Azikiwe had just one goal; to capture Western Nigeria through his NCNC and become the most powerful politician in the South. It was what led to the Awolowo forming the Action Group, to not only checkmate Azikiwe in the West but end Ibo domination. Did Awolowo succeed? Hell yes!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/businessday.ng/columnist/article/the-1951-elections-how-awolowo-forced-azikiwe-out-of-western-nigeria/amp/

Hmmm, another hot one. I wish some people would come and counter these hot points

Sanchez01:
Nothing in the article is new to me. Like I have tons of videos from Associated Press prior the war, build up to war and even post war (which many people know).

The Brits planned out what they thought was best for Nigeria but the North and West never wanted the country while Azikiwe championed the Nigerian cause.

I constantly revisit the secession speech of Azikiwe and can't help but curse the man when I do. Had the North been allowed to secede and the West find its way, there wouldn't have been a Nigeria today and these complex problems we have wouldn't have seen the light of day.

Below is Azikiwe's speech when he read the riot act to the North and possible dangers of what would happen.
https://nigerianwiki.xyz/nnamdi-azikiwes-secession-speech-of-1953/

Was it because Azikiwe loved the North? No! His idea of national cohesion was founded on dependence. Oil had not been discovered at the time. The North had the ground nut pyramids and dedicated farming life. The West had massive cash crop reserves, the Mid-West had rubber and Palm Oil and the Eastern region was largely coastal with palm oil as their main.

Azikiwe and Ironsi both fashioned out that a central government would see that there would be even distribution of these resources from the other areas. The North were comfortable with being alone and so was the West. Sadly, it wasn't too long from then that oil was discovered in Oloibiri.

The same Ojukwu who led military power to the Delta to arrest Boro found it convenient to declare Biafra after an Igbo coup backfired. The rest today is history.

One take away from the whole thing was politics, greed and more greed. Had Azikiwe and Ironsi had the foresight Balewa and Awolowo had, we wouldn't be caught up in this present Nigeria.

This post has finally summed up exactly what led to the Nigeria we have today.
GREED, GREED and more GREED on the part of Zik, Ironsi and Ojukwu.

Most Igbos of this present generation would never want to hear anything about it since this doesn't go well with their narratives of what happened and for those who knew all along, they wouldn't want the truth to be divulged out, see how they are trying to avoid the thread because they know the write up is but the GOSPEL TRUTH.

The Igbos should atone for the sins of their forebears against Nigeria instead of acting the victim every time.

DMerciful:
So Azikiwe had his way with Awolowo, Amadu Bello, Enahoro and Balewa? That means they were weaklings for I man to oppose 4 men and won!

I thought I had lectured you on why he got his ways in another thread.

The Brits didn't support any referendum and secession in Nigeria and therefore backed anyone who spoke against it, Zik was against it and he was aptly supported by the Brits.

Nigeria was still under Britain, all Zik did to other leaders was to threaten them with one charge or the other and the Brits would send such a person to prison, Zik and the Brits loved it that way and Z Zik thought it would last forever

ChiSomtoChi:
It's a lovely thing you agreed they are all Igbos. Which means what you are trying to insinuate is that Aniomas and Onitshans are Igbos. Thanks for the agreement.


We killed only 22 politicians. You killed 100000 Igbo civilians in return.

Who is the Devil between us?

Killing is killing, you killed 10 because you felt you can and if I decide to kill 10,000, would you blame me. All were done according to our abilities.

If the Onitsha, Ikwerre, Anioma etc people are Chinese, how does that add to topic?
Who majorly did the killings of the coup and who suffered most is the issue here. You be the judge

ChiSomtoChi:
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1st question- the coup only killed one pregnant woman. Finish!

2nd question- It is because people like you have crossed the Niger river. I once lived in PH for 3 good years. I have seen them complaining about Ijaw DOMINATION and how Ijaws usually threaten them about Land in PH.

Assuming only one innocent pregnant woman was killed, what was her offence? The article mentioned two.

Yeah yeah, when I was living in the north pole, the whales complained to me how humans were encroaching on their territory. It is now the Ijaws threatening the Ikwerres about land, wonders shall never end, I guess they forced the Ikwerres to seize Igbo properties too.

Enough of your derailing, open another thread for the Ikwerres please.

ChiSomtoChi:
Answer these three questions


1. Is Zik(an Onitsha man) IGBO?
2. Is Major Nzeogwu(an Anioma) Igbo?
3. Is Ifeajuna(an Onitsha)Igbo?

They are all Igbos, you still divide them into LGAs, stop derailing.

Who were those that bore the brunt of the killings and who were those who didn't miss one person, let's even assume the murderers were Ghanaians and Indians?

ChiSomtoChi:
Mind you, Ironsi wasn't the one that halted and opposed the "Araba" riots. It was the British! The British knew that Hausas and fulanis wanted to secede but they told them not to because of OIL.

Really? Tell me the Brits started the civil war too because they thought beforehand that Ojukwu would win.

ChiSomtoChi:
My response to your 1st questuon- We killed only 22 politicians ( not even civilians) but you guys killed 100000 Igbo civilians who knew nothing between May and September 1966 for a revenge! Devilish people.

You are born stupid. Why didn't you talk about how you guys killed Igbos in 1945 and 1953? You guys started the colonial and post colonial ethnic cleansing by murdering us in 1945 and 53 prior to the 1966 alleged Igbo Coup.


3rd question- the UNN cultist Adaka Boro saw his defeat after being killed by Benjamin Adekunle aka black scorpion. Boro never fought for the freedom of the whole of Niger Deltans rather he was after the freedom of the Ijaws alone. You claimed that Igbos were too domineering to Eastern minorities? Why didn't talk about the Ijaw domination over our Ikwerre brothers and how Ijaws oppressed and rubbed the Ikwerres of her Indigenous lands in Rivers State.

@bolded, that's one of the ways I identity kids online, insults.

Why killing 22 including pregnant women?

You talk about 1945 and 1953, why didn't Zik and other Igbos use those incidents as the right excuse to leave Nigeria for good or at least agree to a referendum and secession?

Nobody said Adaka Boro fought the Niger Delta, he wanted an Ijaw only nation which was crushed.

Are you Ikwerre, have the Ikwerres complained to you that they are being oppressed?

Anyway let's stick to topic before you bring in unrelated stories from Greenland, China, Tajikistan etc in order to derail, open another thread for your Ikwerre "brothers" who do not hide it to your face that they dislike you. PH abandoned property comes to mind.
Just open another thread for them and stick to topic.

ChiSomtoChi:
Am sure through your name "Area4Area", you are from the Niger Delta maybe Warri! You are quick to notice the Igboness in Zik(an Onitsha man) but you guys will say that Onitsha are part of the great Benin Descendants. Hypocrites

Where I am from isn't the issue here, why didn't Zik and other Igbos realize the unworkability of Nigeria when others had already predicted it?
This is the more reason the Igbos should stop playing the victim card every time because they contributed to what Nigeria is today

ChiSomtoChi:
When the anti Igbo 1966 pogroms began, Didn't Gowon make an effort to stop it? Yes he did but the barbaric hausas and tivs didn't listen to him! Same to thing must happened to Zik during the 1945 and 1953 anti IGBO pogroms.

Even if Zik didn't react to it, why must to kill innocent Igbos in 1945 and 53? What was our crime that time?
When the northerners wanted to leave and secede from Nigeria, who told them not to? Was it Zik? Why didn't they leave and not succumb to the idea of the British that told them to stay?

We are saying same thing in different tones here, the killings of Igbos in 1945 and 1953 should've made or convinced Zik and the Igbos to conform but Zik refused.
Same thing Ironsi did during the Araba riots when the Northerners rioted that they wanted a secession but Ironsi clamped down on the idea.

ChiSomtoChi:
See them playing victim cards here!
They will tell you how Igbos were prevalent in Tafawa Balewa's cabinet. But ask them how many cabinets Tawafa had, they won't answer.
Tafawa Balewa had 3 cabinets. All cabinets contained 3 Igbos, 3 Igbos, and one IGBO respectively. Greater percentage of the cabinets were filled with people from the western and northern region. Here is the link;

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_Abubakar_Tafawa_Balewa


They will tell you how Igbos planned a coup to overthrow the government due to greediness! Ask them about the "usual identity crisis amongst Igbos" they usually support. The two major Coup leaders were Ifeajuna ( an Onitsha born ) and Major Nzeogwu ( an Anioma born). The foolish uneducated Yorubas will lay a strong support for the motive that " Aniomas are not Igbos" and " Onitsha are BENINS" just to make sure Igbos are divided! But here we are seeing right in our eyes, laying claim that Ifeajuna and Major Nzeogwu are Igbos. I thought you supported the motive that Aniomas and Onitsha are not Igbos! Hypocrites!

There were 5 major coup leaders in that coup, 4 were from Igboland and 1 Yoruba. If we can go with Yorubas' postulation that Aniomas and Onitshans are not Igbos, then which means 3 out of 5 were not actually Igbos. Only 2 core Igbos present. So therefore, the coup was a Benin/ Yoruba dominated coup. Why can't you guys think about this and air it out?


They will say Igbos killed their leaders in the coup. But ask them of how Northerners started the ethnic cleansing by killing Igbos in thousands during the 1945 and 1953 massacre in the north? Here is an article of how Northerners were planning a genocide on Igbos in 1964;
Hate of the Igbos: Northern House Of Assembly Proceedings, February - March 1964
Below is an extract from the proceedings of the Northern Region House of Assembly between February and March 1964, less than four years after Nigeria’s independence from the British. I have nothing to add. Read and judge for yourself:
Mallam Muhammadu Mustapha Mande Gyan:
On the allocation of plots to Ibos or allocation of stalls, I would like to advise the Minister that these people know how to make money, and we do not know the way and manner of getting about this business. We do not want Ibos to be allocated with plots. I do not want them to be given plots…
Mallam Bashari Umaru:
I would like (you), as a Minister of Land and Survey, to revoke forthwith all Certificates of Occupancy from the hands of the Ibos resident in the Region… (Applause)
Mr. A. A. Agogede:
I’m very glad that we are in a Moslem country, and the government of Northern Nigeria allowed some few Christians in the region to enjoy themselves according to the belief of their religion, but building of hotels should be taken away from the Igbos, and even if we find some Christians who are interested in building hotels and do not have money to do so, the government should aid them, instead of allowing Ibos to continue with their hotels.
Dr. Iya Abubakar (Special Member, Lecturer, Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria):
I am one of the strong believers in Nigerian unity, and I have hoped for our having a united Nigeria, but certainly if the present state of affairs continues, I hope the government will investigate first the desirability and secondly the possibility of extending Northernisation policy to the petty traders. (Applause)
Mallam Mukhtar Bello:
I would like to say something very important, that the Minister should take my appeal to the Federal Government about the Igbos in the post office. I wish the numbers of these Igbos be reduced…. There are too many of them in the North. They are like sardines and 1 think they are just too dangerous to the Region.
Mallam Ibrahim Musa:
Mr. Chairman, Sir. Well first and foremost, what I have to say before this Hon. House is that we should send a delegation to meet our Hon. Premier to move a motion in this very Budget Session that all the Ibos working in the Civil Service of Northern Nigeria, including the native authorities, whether they are contractors or not, should be repatriated at once…
Mallam Bashari Umaru:
There should be no contracts either from the government, native authorities, or private enterprises given to Ibo contractors (Government Bench: Good talk and shouts of “Fire the Southerners”). Again, Mr. Chairman, the foreign firms too should be given time limit to replace all Ibo in their firms by some other people.
The Premier (Alhaji the Hon. Sir Ahmadu Bello, K.B.E., Sardauna of Sokoto):
It is my most earnest desire that every post in the region, however small it is, be filled by a Northerner (Applause)
Alhaji Usman Liman:
What brought the Ibos into this region? They were here since the colonial days. Had it not been for the colonial rule, there would hardly have been any Ibo in this region. Now that there is no colonial rule, the Ibos should go back to their region. There should be no hesitation about the matter. Mr. Chairman, North is for Northerners, East for Easterners, West for Westerners, and the Federation is for us all. (Applause)
The Minister of Land and Survey (Alhaji the Hon. Ibrahim Musa Cashash, O.B.E.):
Mr. Chairman. Sir, I do not like to take up much of the time of this House in making explanations, but I would like to assure members that having heard their demands about Ibos holding land in Northern Nigeria, my ministry will do all it can to see that the demands of members are met. How to do this, when to do it, all these should not be disclosed. In due course, you will all see what will happen.

Two questions after reading your long epistle,
How many Igbo political, religious or military rulers were killed, who majorly carried out the killing?

What was being discussed on the floor of the Northern Nigeria parliament was part of what Ahmadu Bello, Awolowo, Enahoro etc predicted could happen in future, the Igbos were in charge of the region's economy which would definitely lead to some resentment in the north and expectedly so.
Would the Igbos had agreed if a people from a certain region overrun their region all because they're in the same country? Was that not the same reason Adaka Boro decided to form his Niger Delta republic because he felt the Igbos had overwhelmed the Eastern region and suffocating others, would the Igbos had agreed to such arrangement if they were to trade positions with the Ijaws?

Remember, leaders from other regions saw the future except Zik and later Ironsi.

ChiSomtoChi:
To me, you are born stupid! Yes! Stupid!

Why didn't you talk about how Northerners slaughtered 1000 Igbos + in 1945 and 1953?
Igbos have done more harm to Nigeria? LMAO

My question is which tribe in Nigeria has suffered Genocide? Answer yourself

See you pointing a finger at someone and forgetting you're also pointing four at yourself.

What stopped Zik and the Igbos from acting based on those incidents of 1945 and 1953 and cooperating with leaders from other regions for a de-amalgamation or/and referendum and secession in the pre- independence constitution?

I guess just as the author wrote, they acted that way based on the false belief that they can lord it over others, others warned that Nigeria couldn't work then yet it was Zik and the Igbos that wanted Nigeria to stand and now they are seeing the result of their stupidity they now want out, never done that.
You can't eat your cake and have it

gwafaeziokwu:
I read through to get your point but couldn't unfortunately. But your rants are well noted anyway.

Since you decided to feign ignorance, let me help you.

Kanu and IPOB started the agitation on the premise of getting a referendum, getting Biafra and burning down the zoo.
You are now telling us that all that and more was just for arousing consciousness, you mean arousing consciousness when he was busy preaching hate and anarchy. Does his approach make any sense to you, is that how you arouse consciousness?

antadiop2:
If you talk about sowing seeds then I’ll give it to Uwazuruike from the 90s and not nnamdi.
If you talk about sit at homes then again I give it the Uwazuruike.
Mind you I don’t care much about him either but you guys act as if time and space started with nnamdi ?

And why this constant attack on intelligence and ability to speak and write English? IPOB supporters seem to hate intellectualism as seen in numerous rebuttals from them accusing other of intelligent and blowing grammar etc.
But ojukwu spoke English very well and even his greatest detractors alluded to the fact that he was very intelligent.

This aversion to intelligence as shown in this article might end up being IPOB’s downfall as the writer showed that nnamdi has made false moves that’s exposed him to close international scrutiny and possible extradition or financial examination.

Rumour has it that he hates being asked openly about IPOB’s finances? Maybe one of you can ask him next meeting and make sure the camera is rolling.

God bless

Kanu and IPOB hate being questioned and his sympathizers and supporters would openly attack you if you dare ask.

Kanu and IPOB are running the organization like the hermit kingdom of North Korea, just submit to the supreme leader and do not ask questions.

We all remembered how those who wanted to know how Kanu escaped from Nigeria and appeared in Jerusalem, you could see the attack on those who dared asking on social media then.
Even those who listen to his radio broadcasts are not spared from the attacks from Kanu whenever they want to ask him questions when they call in, he'd insult and curse you as if you ain't human.
I guess this is one of his undoings

gwafaeziokwu:
Yeye.

Nnamdi Kanu is not supposed to get anywhere. He has a job and he is doing it perfectly well. He is consciously preparing the mind of Nigerians for a very big drastic change. He is exposing the underbelly of the feudal Lords and trust me they are aiding him by affirming all his doomsday prediction. In the near future it won't be about Nnamdi Kanu but the seed has been sown.

Intelligence is not all about writing and speaking English. Let me give an example. May 30th this year there will be another shut down of the entire eastern region to honour our heroes past. It was unthinkable in the past. No eastern governor can pull it off without beign termed Biafran apologist. Is it right that no day was set aside to honour the 3million souls lost in Biafra. Are they too insignificant to be remembered. A man from the street has pulled it off. The governors can only do eye service to the government at the center but it is becoming a yearly routine and trust me in the nearest future it will become more than an Igbo thing.

Like I said Kanu has a job, to awaken consiousness. TO drive home the point that since Nigeria do not want to forget about the war and move on,that Biafrans should not sleep with their two eyes closed.

Nonsense, it's all about awakening consciousness and no longer Biafra today and now or the zoo must be burnt down.

The seed Kanu is only trying to sow is about causing chaos since he knows he has nothing to the actualization of his IPOB Biafra.

Stop the lies about shutting down the entire SE when only Aba and Onitsha are the cities mostly affected because of the structure of their economy.

Let Kanu, IPOB or you stage another protest anywhere in that SE and let's see what wound happen, I would even want you to lead the next one, awakening consciousness indeed while calling for the killings of fellow citizens

efighter:
YEs, the way it was Zoned to South-West in 1999 that made Alex Ekwueme who is a Yoruba man to contest with and lost to Obasanjo another Yoruba man. Anofia! Ewu Congo.

They would continue crying for zoning till the smallest tribe had produced the president.
Cry cry babies, always crying for what you know you can freely have

helinues:
Which kind of line is that? So Pdp is no longer zoning to North or what?

No attache for 2023 elections, let each interested party , zone, region, individual test their popularity

Some of them are just funny, instead of looking for an Igbo and helping to sell the person to other Nigerians so that he may be acceptable, they are busy crying for zoning. Many do not understand that politics is about interest and not some silly sentiment.

The earlier the Igbos do what Tinubu, Buhari and other stakeholders in other parties did by merging, the better.

The earlier they know that neither PDP nor APGA can do it alone and there must be a form of merging or another, the better.

The earlier they realize the demography of the SW and NW being the two hugest in the country and you must be merged with at least one of both, the better. APC got it easily because the combo was the bomb,

gidgiddy:
I wonder if Ngige knows that the Presidency of Nigeria is something that comes and goes. No matter who gets it, the most you can have it is 8 years.

So you sell your soul and principles for a political office that you will hold for a short time? Why? Igbos have done very well for themselves without the presidency. We should not compromise on our principles for the ever worthless office of president that has never helped the common man on the street

Thread is about Igbo and the presidency, if you ain't interested, you can visit other threads.