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wiseoneking:
You sound foolish and unwise to blame joe. This bridge was due over two decades ago. Atleast we had two succesive civilian pred that never thought of it. Obj dribbled it for 8yrs. Here u are shouting Gej. Gej started something and ndi igbo are ever proud of him.

The only thing he started with the 2nd NB is setting you on a 30 years long journey of ibo people paying tolls to to julius berger.

GEJ did not do anything for you since Nigeria is not paying for that bridge, ibo people are paying for their own bridge out of their own pocket.


GEJ sold you off to Jb and not only that, GEJ awarded tons of contracts all over the country, so why didn't award contract for this bridge, why is this bridge the only tolled FG bridge in Nigeria? Why must ibo people be the only people paying for their own bridge for 30 years?

So, exactly in what way did he helped you?

Your best bet is for PMB to cancel this project and re award the project and pay for it instead of ibo people paying JB for 30 years.

...but of course, you people are hard learners and you like doing things the hard way.

You people are so shortsighted, misguided mentally reckless.

perryy:
Agbaya. It was PDP that released details of fashola's inflated contract to the public. Only those who do not know that it is PDP that is governing Lagos will doubt you sir.

If Fasola has come to beg, why didn't you tell him it is too late? The deed has been done, his lies exposed,his pilfering nature has been brought to public knowledge. Though you have instructed your boy, Ambode to remove the details of Fasola's wonders from Lagos state website, please be informed that many of us have already saved the details of all his "super performance " from the website. You think you can tell us this to make us believe APC government is peopled with saints, to change our mindset about you and your boys in Alausa? It is either Fasola threatened to open up on your involvement in the alleged pilfering or as usual, he has come to beg you for forgiveness. Save your sermon and just tell us the truth.

perryy:
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10 million northerners, four million nigeriens ( people from Niger republic) and about one million south Western traitors. More Nigerians voted GEJ, remove Chad and Niger voters, Buhari had lesser votes.

I know for sure that very soon we will boo Buhari

Coming from a TaNoid and a village bigot... Pleasekeep quiet jare,,

cbrass:
Typical

What's the issue at hand got to do with primaries?


Typical Apples and oranges of course..

cbrass:
Did you proof read what you just wrote? I doubt it. Why didn't hamza that was fasholas candidate make the primaries?

Apples and oranges..

omogin:
Tinubu's allies were absent at the book launch, contracts are being terminated. Ruling party is still in place in lagos. Tinubu wants no rival. Fashola is rising and rising, lol... Say something else.

Regardless of the innuendos and insinuations about book lunch and who was there or not, Tinubu personally has nothing to gain but a lot to lose by directly or indirectly attacking Fashola, in fact he and the APC has a lot to lose.

The fact that Tinubu himself jumped in to strongly stop the bleeding says a lot. APC is nothing in Lagos without Fashola, Fashola is their shining star, their major currency and prime beacon and they know this especially after the backlash and strong support for Fashola.

Orobo Ambode is the loser because Lagosians are holding him responsible for this mess. His the governor of Lagos state today because of Fashola and not because of Tinubu.

Nigerians on twitter blast Ambode following report Fashola..


https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1WLXB_enUS577US577&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=ambode+fashola+twitter&start=20

That twitter blow and headline all over the internet sure got to Tinubu like lightning..

omogin:
Fashola knows its tinubu, I know its tinubu. That's all that matters. He can lie all he wants

I really think and believe Tinubu has nothing to do with it hence his obvious anger at the whole thing. I think orobo is solely behind all this.


Tinubu is a smart man and I don't see him doing this to the most trusted and widely asceptable member of his own party, I don't see him dividing his own party and what he built because of some silly noise about borehole. Fashola award contracts worth billions from from Ikoyi link bridge which is still the best bridge in Nigeria and the whole of west africa, even the government of Nigeria can not match it to multi billion naira ten lane lagos badagry express and metro rail.


There's absolutely nothing in this for Tinubu to gain so it's absolutely not Tinubu..

Jowonloju:
Good to know that he's trying to denied, however is two things. Is either he has achieved his target to rubbish Fashola, or seeing the way people reacted to his antics he decided to reverse. But for me, Fashola is just like biblical Samson. Tinubu will fall if Fashola fall.

Exactly what happened. They messed with the wrong guy, but Lagosians and twitter lashing and spanking woke them up.

Great leadership move by Asiwaju as usual, but he should have reacted strongly before this rubbish got out of hand. I really saw this coming.

The moral of the story here = Mess with Fashola and deal squarely with angry and pissed off Lagosians because Lagosians love their Fashola. Ambode and the APC won in Lagos and National because of Fashola, great work in Lagos, his credibility and image so to let one idiotic orobo clown who Fashola himself spoke for, campaigned for and took to all the powers that be in Lagos to change their mind and vote for rubbish Fashola is unacceptable.

Where was Asiwaju when orobo openly ridiculed Fashola by lying to Lagosians and the rest of the world that Fashola took N50 million for Falomo mall? Thank God the company set the record straight by throwing his lies back in his face..

I hate liars and dishonest people and I never even liked orobo to start with.

Asiwaju, you next job now is to sanction orobo and read him his rights.

Without BRF in Lagos, the APC is nothing locally and nationally.

worthytalk:
Welcome to the zoo, the land of baboons and monkeys.

Unfortunately for you. You and your family members are animals, baboons and monkeys in the same zoo.

lol @ village biafra TaNoids calling themselves Nigerians.

Useless people. Nigerians don't take you irrelevant anti Nigeria clowns seriously.....

shamecurls:
[size=28pt]Wailing Wailers! Food is ready ooo...Come and eat oooo[/size]

This is too funny..

Useless Orobo himself is a 1 termer. No 2019 for him.


.. Can't stand that clown...

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Sir Adesoji Aderemi, Oni of Ife (2nd left) meets with Secretary-General U Thant at the UN Headquarters, left is P.A. Afolabi, Consul-General of Nigeria.

sweetgala:
It's because you lack any foresight that you make such a conclusion, the job of a king before the democratisation of our society is the economic viability of his and the betterment of his people; with that his kingdom may increase in wealth and size. He would do this by liason with other kings, conquest of other regions impossing levies on subjects and increasing trade with other kingdoms.

Any true king who really intends to earn his wage in Nigeria beyond being a tradition observing individual , would need to be well connected, illustrious, politically enlightened and honest. Ile-Ife would not have enjoyed the growth it had between 1930 and 1950 if Adesoji Aderemi was not well educated , well traveled and adequately connected. He was able to sway the FG from establishing the university in Ekiti and there we have OAU now, he did that in a few phone calls( Akintola was simply told by Awo " oba wants the university in Ife", his answer "whatever baba wants" it was that simple , so many things were done that wwy.

The first nationalist movement in SW was born in the palace of olowo of owo oba olateru olagbegi II the orogun of ila presrnt, the first meetings in UK to seek Independence way into 1940s had Adesoji Aderemi as a representative with him addressing the house of lords and commons , he was there till the end using his relationship with the king of England to gather favour ,Nigeria thus became the first African country amazing few to gain Independence without any grand civil unrest or militancy. That is how Nigeria became the gaint of Africa above other nations such as Ghana, Egypt ,Morocco and Zimbabwe who were much more prosperous than us.

Well said...



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His Majesty Late Sir Adesoji Martins Tadeniawo Aderemi I (KCMG) Shaking Hands with Sir Wiston Churchill

bebene:
who exempted them?

Who ibo TaNoid loser on NL of course.

PentiumPro:
Watch out, Yiboesss will call Boyloaf a Yoruba man on this thread very soon.

GEJ labeled them his pilar for a reason.


I wonder why GEJ didn't call his own Ijaw people his pilar. He did not because unlike his own fearless ijaw people, ibos are weak, docile, blind and gullible emotional and sentimental followers.

They'll follow the devil as long as the devil is against Yoruba and Hausa people..


Eternal hate, bitterness, bigotry and tribalism is their way of life...

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lmao

myproperty:
I really hope you understand what conclusion means. In your own eyes for someone to spend N139m on just two boreholes is a job well done and the cost was not inflated.

Read and comprehend properly.

I never said spending 139 million was right or was a job well done, I said you can not jump into conclusion without facts and details relating to the said project. We need to know exactly what was ordered, what was delivered, who awarded the contract, who it was awarded to, who wrote the payment checks, who took the checks to the bank and cashed the checks, in whose account the money finally landed.


In my own eyes or not, when you take the former governor to court, the judge won't ask anything about my eyes or your eyes, he'll ask you for evidence of crime or offence committed. Shouting Fashola spent this and that is just talk, you can not convict him based on some random numbers on the internet.

wonders would never end. If according to you there is zero accusation of corruption that means Ambode was just praising his spending of N139m on two boreholes. Na

This has nothing to do with Ambode and or your own noise and screams on the internet, tell the same Ambode to probe the former governor or petition the efcc to prosecute and jail the former governor, your noise on the internet is not a court of law.

If you people really care about corruption or what the former governor jailed for corruption, you should be asking or forcing Ambode to show you and Lagosians all the relevant facts like I listed above or take his case to the efcc, but you people don't care or give a damn about corruption, all you care about his your pointless rants that gets us nowhere.

So now on the issue of Fashola you want facts to be shown before accusing him but on the issue of the missing money you talked about have any fact been shown?..

Regardless what we say on the internet about people stealing and looting or who is corrupt or not or even how much we want them jailed, we can't jail them without any evidence of wrong doing so what's your point?

We say GEJ and his men and women are corrupt, but saying they are corrupt or this and that money is missing is enough to jaill because you still have to invesigate and put forward facts and evidence before a judge in a court of law.

You are not making any sense here.

It is difficult to really discuss with people that see nothing wrong with whom they support especially if the support is blind, even in the moon can any non corrupt individual dig two boreholes for N139m? It is on heard for. Please corruption is corruption no matter how you paint or present it and no matter the name you give to it, whether you call it spend this and that. This is just one of the numerous accusation he is being accused of,interestingly he could not even deny it. You are quick to come to the defence of you SAINT. Hmmm different stroke for different folks, different definition of corruption for different people. I now understand it. Thank you Solicitor to Mr. SAINT

1. I didn't say Fashola is a saint, that's something you made up inside your own head.

2. What you think is too much or not to spend of a bore hole is irrelevant if you really care about corruption. Your argument should be about Ambode. You should be asking him to take his case to the EFCC or show Lagosians who cashed he payment checks and in whose account the money landed. This is not rocket science.

3. Saying this and that is corruption or he spend this and that is meaningless ti you are able to prove with facts and follow the money trail to it's final destination.

4. How do you prove Fashola intentionally inflated the contract and cornered the money for his personal use? How?

By screaming and yelling on the internet that this and that is rubbish because that's all you can do, what about just gong to the efcc with your facts?

What About ambode himself probing Fashola is he's really concerned about the money and the people of Lagos?

Ambode care less about any money, his only mission is to smear and rubbish his redecessor. Is this not the reason why he openly lied to the world that Fashola took N50 million for Falomo mall concession which the company involved called him out on for lying?

Ambode is a crook, a lair and dishonest man. If hes the goods on his predecessor, the courts are out there for him to take his case to, the efcc is there, he also can probe Fashola directly..


Try reason like a sensible and rational adult burdened with meaningless sentiments instead of facts and realities...

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kenny987:
You are just some lowdown, bottom-licking, good for nothing scum. Can u not have an argument or conversation without being insulting? Who are u to decide who does or doesn't have common sense? What is your personal connection to the matter that you just could not state your sickening opinion without being rude? This is how all your responses on this issue has been laced with so much vitriol and hatred and leads me to wonder whether u suck BRF's dick for a living and u fear ur daily dosage might no longer be available hence your unconscionable rudeness and madness! You are mad and sick upstairs!

I take particular exception to rudeness and insults on this forum and for your sake I am breaking my rules and policy to engage anyone here objectively and directly on any subject matter. I don't care about your blind adoration and hero-worship or even crush on BRF or anybody but I will not countenance rudeness from you! Sicko!

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You said Common knowledge tells reasonable Nigerians that there is some major inflation of this contract sum and I disputed by saying the same common sense dictates that you need to have relevant facts relating to the project before formulating judgement and opinion.


Common sense can not win any conviction in any court of law, you need facts and and evidence of wrong doing which you and the rest of your shallow thinkers don't have.
Keep quiet and exit thread if you are short of sensible, relevant and intelligent facts to contribute..

menabadoo:
Did you include zinc oxide?

Of course, we are very proud of our rich past and history. Thanks for this wonderful post..

myproperty:
when I read your response above it makes me laugh, imagine you telling someone that his problem is inability to read and comprehend or even understand and follow basic discussion] yet that is what you have done. The person you quoted understands , comprehend and
also followed the basic discussion but you seem to be blinded by your trust,adoration and fanatical support you have for Fashola( about 80% of your post is about your acclaimed performance of Fashola, to the extent you claimed Akpabio looted his state seriousely by inflating contract prices, see one of your post where you claimed that what Fashola did is far better and more than what PDP Government and state Government did in 16years( https://www.nairaland.com/2180887/fasholas-8-years-gej-fg).

Now to the issue at hand. The subject matter here is corruption. GEJ Government was accused of corruption and[b] Fashola is being accused of corruption[/b] and you are telling us it is not the same thing calling GEJ's own as a case of missing money and Fashola's own is about spending this and that
There is nothing wrong in supporting Fashola but there is everything wrong in defending people accused of corruption. The same formula Ambode is applying against Fashola was the same formula Fashola and APC applied against PDP accussing PDP of corruption some true and some lies, yet corruption runs in every facet of the country. You can see corruption in both PDP and APC.

What goes up must come down

You have no business talking about reading and comprehension because you defiantly just failed that test with your baseless conclusion

To start with, there's is zero accusation of corruption here, this is your own carried away imagination. Saying you spent this and that on a project is not corruption, it's just saying he spent this and that on this and that. Corruption is you exposing contract details, what was requested and what was delivered and so far, you don't have that.

Saying he spent this and that is just tall till you are able to show us facts and proof that he not only inflated the contracts himself and diverted funds from the said inflation to himself. That is corruption and until you are able to do just that, you are just talking and smearing.

They don't put people in jail for spending too much according to you, they do if you are able to prove that he personally did so to enrich himself by diverting the funds into his own pocket.


Yes I started the thread about Fashola's 8 years. Have I been proven wrong? No I haven't.


Fashola delivered more projects than all the other states in Nigeria and the FG combined. I started that thread and it's still stands so prove me wrong if you can..

Alphaoscar:
@ Bro Aresa , I think it will be very inaccurate to blame Ambode for this borehole and the website issue because if I can remember vividly some of this issues were raised and used by the Tanoids to attack Fashola during the electioneering period even before the arrival of Ambode on the hotseat.



I am still trying very hard not to believe there is infighting between Fashola and Tinubu/Ambode because it will be very very unfortunate if it is really true. I love Tinubu very dearly but rubbishing the person of Fashola on the alter of politics is uncalled and an act of ingratitude to him for all the great things his administration achieved.

I stopped believing the lying Ambode when he lied about the Falomo mall concession. Thanks for the company involved for setting the records straight.

To me, Ambode is untrustworthy. I just hate liars especially when it's used to destroy other people's good name and integrity..

kenny987:
There is no need to continue this back n forth with u. I hope u are this 'charitable' and exacting for full disclosure of details when same tidbits of info are released about different sums of money supposedly missing. When the figure for the week is thrown out as another 'missing' sum by the chief with numerical diarrhoea I hope u ask for full disclosure of details or circumstances surrounding said 'loss' b4 u call for blood and jail.

Common knowledge tells reasonable Nigerians that there is some major inflation of this contract sum but again, according to u the specs may justify these outrageous sums.

One of two things will happen, either the warring 'pigs' will go behind closed doors n settle their 'differences ' as some of us see these disclosures, or one will be hung out to dry as a scapegoat. I only hope if the latter is the case that he squeals out loud too and takes at least one 'pig' down.

Common sense dictates you see full details and view of something before reaching any kind of conclusion or formulating any judgement.

Have you seen the contract details, terms, stipulations and specifications? No you have not so of what relevant is our insane and irrational premature conclusion?

You have zero common sense.

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GeneralShepherd:
But when Oshomole did. It was alright!

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What's my business with Oshomole? Go and ask him and stop bothering me with irrelevant rubbish..

Laid2001:
Fashola ran an open government. That he even dared to make information on all his contracts available to everyone online is a testimony to that.
Rather than for Ambode to take down the website, I think he should have continued in that tradition and even go further than headline topics for each contracts by making detailed scope of each contracts available.!.

Not a single other governor has achieved what Fashola did. Despite the fact that some of the contracts looks exhorbitant and unrealistically expensive, I am convinced that if you have information on other states and their contracts, you will realise that Lagos state contracts during Fashola is Top Quatile.

Ambode have made some contract awards and he is still afraid of loading this contracts on the government website.! Rather, he is taking down the site. Where will the public get info on his projects?.

Note that the info on all these so called Fashola contracts were available even during the last campaign, it is a pity that PDP were too afraid to make it an issue due to the fact that these will be child play compared to the Federal government contracts.

Fashola never claimed to be a saint, he has tried his best to give us transparent governance, it may not be perfect, but still the best so far in the whole of Nigeria!!

The ball is in Ambode's court now and nothing short of an improved, more transparent governance, building on Fashola's achievement will be acceptable to the populace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all, thanks for this brilliant and very intelligent post.

1. Ambode took down the website because of the backlash and whooping he's getting from Lagosians regarding his anti Fashola moves. Lagosians love Fashola and are still visibly enjoying his governance.

Ambode is trying to clean himself up by taking down the site and claiming that mischivious elements are misusing and twisting the info on the website.

2. Ambode's latest move wont work and he can not distance himself from the fiasco he created. He not only refused to clarify the info ob behalf of his predecessor with facts and details available to him, he actively lied against the Fashola and hung him out there to dry all based on bogus and misleading info.

3. The Falomo mall concession comes to mind. Ambode publicly lied that Fashola took N50 million for a 50 years concession which the company involved disputed.

Ambode did not tell Lagosians that Fashola actually made tons of money for Lagosians by securing a whooping 38% stake in the N300 billion investments and on top of that, the whole investment and the mall itself goes to the people of Lagos after 50 years.

Means Lagosians don't have to wait 50 years before benefiting from the contract since their 38% stake means billions going to the people of Lagos state.

4. During Fashola's 8 years, he commissioned multiple projects every week, but this Ambode man is yet to commission anything even though Fashola left hundreds of projects in different stages of completion with many already completed.

The idea is to delay commissioning to create the impression that they ae his projects and not Fashola's projects which to me who's project it is makes no difference as long as Lagosians gets their completed projects in a timely Fashion to enjoy.

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SeverusSnape:
Goon, you think I'm an illiterate like your Almajiric brothers?...Brossssss, I'm chartered in the making.

Accountant general of the federation loading...

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Illiterate village Trolls and TaNoids bore me..

SeverusSnape:
I am an accountant too (about to be though), He's not disgracing us, He's making us proud.

Great Accountants!...Great!!

SeverusSnape:
Buhari is as confused as an ambushed rat. He doesn't know what he's doing.

Let his body language do the magic instead.

Toothless mongrel who can't do anything!

lol @ village spare parts apprentice TaNoid illiterate claiming accounting.. These villagers no go kill pesin with lafta I swear..


Wonders shall never end..

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JUHABACH:
THIS POST. right here is where your credibility died.

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1. You are a village TaNoid and my post wan't for TaNoids.

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VaselineCrew2:
Is this all you could come up with I still thought you had some moves left, thought you were still willing to dance

You just dropped a HUGE contradition saying that Fashola also listed on the Lagos official site, but still felt the need to create a personal site with tax payers money and even at a sum that dwarfs most sums used by successful entrepreneurs in creating sites for their brands.

Dude, just go to sleep men, I'll play with you some other time. Guess you're all warn out from having danced so much already today

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You are grossly confused and boring..

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fr3do:
Hypocrites!
Was there ever any clear cut evidence that Gej was corrupt? But you people spinned tales about him in the pretence that you wanted change and accountability, but now your former leader is being accused of misconduct, you are going all defensive

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This is about Fashola and not about the discredited GEJ Nigerians rejected and sent back to his village..