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nwadiuko1:
losing to who? You must really be inane to say the igbos have been losing

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Keep quiet. Now you sound boring and pathetic. You can not alter your losing ways and culture with your pathetic internet cries, this is who you are, you are losers.

nwadiuko1:
another wasted sPerm

What you see every time you look in the mirror.. Ndo, loser...

The LASG need to set up a fire station around that market.

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nwadiuko1:
when the igbos made their decision to vote for their choice you and your likes are the ones that made it look as if they owed you any apology.....you should shut the fvck up and move on if you don't understand what the thread is all about...FYI the igbos lost nothing. They v been living well and they continue to do so....

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STFU. Nigerians voted and kicked out the worthless man you voted for, they don't want him and your dumb and irrelevant reasons why you lost and always losing makes no difference to Nigerians.

You've been losing since day one and with your predisposed culture of hate, bitterness, tribalism and vindictiveness, it won't be the last time..

Move on to your next foolery and losing adventure...


Crying osers....

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nwadiuko1:
at least now you seem to have regained a little of your still ineffective brain....

Back to the topic: if your brain is as effective as it should be, you should have read my write up before starting your senseless diatribe....you after reading that should have seen that at no point in my write up did I say that jonathan's government was the best for Nigerians........the only thing I was trying to point out is that many misguided people like you tend to make it look like the igbos commited a crime in having a different choice from yours

You and people like you make it look like the igbos had another choice as to whom to vote for....FYI they didn't...the igbos
have had a rough time with buhari before so he was not an option to them

What am saying in essence is that people like you should let the igbos be! They made their choice before, during and after the elections and would probably do so again if the elections should be done again yes.....they have that inalienable right

Talking about projects in the south east, the president might not have performed optimally in the SE but truth be told there are still projects he undertook in the SE, he worked more in the north to show how detribalised he is.

No body is against buhari the truth is that he must see what other "democratically elected presidents of Nigeria has seen" and I wish him luck

Talking about corruption: buhari's main financiers tinubu and atiku are two of the most corrupt Nigerians. (I stand to be corrected). So their membership of the "change" crew does not confer sainthood on them..

Please next time learn pass your points across without resorting to name calling...
Peace

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Keep quiet with your redundant and irrelevant nonsense.

The people of Nigeria voted and rejected your crooked and worthless president PERIOD.

We don't need or give a damn about whatever silly and dumb reasons why you gambled and lost as usual, we are not interested.

When you vote your conscience, you owe people zero apologies and you don't have to keep crying, moaning and stating the reasons why you did what you did, starting silly threads to justify you conscientious reasoning and decision means your voting conscience and decision is troubling you.


So, Tinubu and Atiku are the most corrupt people in Nigeria, but the crooked, incompetent and and corrupt man you voted for refused to arrest, prosecute and jail them for what reason exactly? Are you not even agreeing with me that your lousy president himself is corrupt and incompetent?

Of what use are you as the president and chief law enforcement officer if you can not arrest, prosecute and jail the most corrupt people in your country?

You see how senseless and thoughtless you people are with the dumb rubbish you spew all over the place??


STFU and move on, you lost as usual.

nwadiuko1:
you are yet to make sense

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Why not explain to Nigeria why they should have allowed the most corrupt and incompetent GEJ/PDP remain in office?


Why not state to Nigerians how many FG projects GEJ/PDP commissioned in the SE and even SS to justify your pointless votes?

Why not just explain to us WHY this same corrupt government now borrowing money to pay your brothers and sisters is the best government for Nigerians?


The Nigerian people voted and kicked out this worthless, corrupt and incompetent government based on the above facts and considerations, not your usual made up silly, tribal, hateful garbage and senseless reasons why you actafool and lost as usual.. ...


You were on the wrong side of Nigeria and history as usual and you lost woefully so deal with your pains and sorrows in silence and quit bothering us with your loser sentiments.

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nwadiuko1:
the best way to disprove and shame a "thoughtless post" or an" ill informed topic" would be to present superior facts......if you ve got em bring em......if not keep quiet

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Keep quiet please. What silly facts are you talking about? Posting the same senseless garbage you people spew everywhere is what you call facts. Facts is the hateful, senseless, meanful, selfish and anti social people you are and even this silly thread is a reflection of your warped mentality..

nwadiuko1:
is it that you are intellectually inept to read and comprehend or that you are being economical with the truth? I gave you facts with digits and names where necessary and all you could do is to rant and display your ugly disposition towards "my folks"

If you have any facts to disprove what I said, bring it on...but till then I don't want no smart-by-half mediocre spamming my mention button...good day!

You want facts while at the same time proving me right with your thoughtless posts..


Makes no sense...

nwadiuko1:
I was expecting an informed argument but since have none to offer....thanks and do not quote me again

Expecting informed argument with illinformed topic and bogus reasoning? Are you serious?

It really doesn't matter how hard you folks try to rewrite history or justify your ways and actions towards other Nigerians, you still can not alter your widely and historically known predisposed ways and group identity.

Your principles are always hate, selfish and spoiler principles and never what's best for the society. The same hate, selfish and spoiler principles you take everywhere you go and you've been playing the same self destructive game since the beginning of Nigeria as a country so this has nothing to do with GMB or 2015 elections, this is just who you are, this is your mentality and sociocultural identity.

May 29th.

Odejonadaft treker missed the point. ...typical dullards. ..

uzokasi1964:
How i wish this man was our new president,things for better for our country.

I share your sentiments. ...but, Presidency is not the only way or opportunity for him to contribute or continue is good work..

kastonkastrol:
@aresa, please was the science and technology building commissioned today? I'm kinda curious here

Don't know when the staff moved in, but it was commissioned today...

kodded:
then why are you praising him ?

So, showing what the man we put in office is doing with our tax money is praising?

Do you even know the meaning of praising or the fact that posting the wonderful works of a productive and competent governor is killing you inside because no such thing transpires in your village after 16 years of taxes and allocation collection by your worthless village leaders?


Please STFU if you have nothing better to talk about...

kodded:
#BabaOneChance

Yo Wahh !

^^^^^^ I see you are one of the Jonathan'S ants on NL, no wonder.

Firefire:
I agree with you actually.

Photooo keep it up!

Internet troll with nothing ever to show from his village saddled with worthless and unproductive village governors, keep it up too.

Other people's portion in life is to commission projects and deliver on behalf of the electorates while it is also your own portion in life to hate, troll and constitute nuisance..

kodded:
Is that not his job

Who says it's not his job? Abi reading and comprehension dey fail you...?

Firefire:
The photoman is here again.

And the internet troll with nothing ever to show from his village saddled with worthless and unproductive village governors is here..

May 29th is here and it's 16 years worth of ZERO for you and your people even thought your isi equ bele governors collected taxes and allocations too including gbese that built nothing...


Nna. How your bad and unproductive village market.? May 29th is here and still nothing to show from your village and your only portion in life is still internet trolling, anger, bitterness and bad bele...


Such his miserable life...

This show is not over till May 29th......




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King Air 350





These are the sophisticated aircrafts?


Are these clowns for real?

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Diamond DA-42.

MzJackBaueress:
when are you going to get over Jonathan's loss to GMB?

Why bother yourself with trolls and unintelligent internet pests?

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Lagos State Governor, Mr. Babatunde Fashola, SAN (right) with the Permanent Secretary, Ministry of Science and Technology, Mrs. Nike Animashaun (middle) and Director General, Office of Transformation, Mr. Toba Otusanya (left) during the Citizens Relationship Management System’s live demonstration at the Command and Control Centre, Alausa, Ikeja, on Thursday, May 07, 2015. de Fashola, SAN, on Thursday, May 07, 2015.

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gists:
@aresa
I am not promoting centralization. Simply because I asked that we don't decommission our grid doesn't mean I am asking for centralization. As I said, I can't think of a country that doesn't have some form of grid system. Maybe you can help me with some examples. What if something happens at gaslink and the gas supply to many of the turbines in Lagos goes down? I just used Osun as example but it looked like you are focusig on distance. But there are countless scenarios that can give rise to power shortage in any region. What is the point of having power in Mowe (Ogun state) and the people in Berger (Lagos state less than 50km from Mowe) for some reasons are staying in darkness or vise versa. In the same manner, what is the point of having excess power in Afam while the GENCo/DISCo in Abia struggles to meet the electricity demand of her citizens? What is the point in have excess power in Akwa Ibom while the GENCo/DISCo in Cross rivers struggles to meet the electricity demand of her citizens? What is the point in have excess power in Kaduna while the GENCo/DISCo in Zamfara struggles to meet the electricity demand of her citizens? The grid provides for flexibility as backup not as main form of distribution and guarantees extra revenue for those that can sell to others "in need". It covers these tiny "blind spot" here and there - i believe I have said this before.

The question then is, what happens if every jurisdiction is able to produce more power than is required in their various regions/localities? To answer that, I believe if Ghana had the audacity to nurse the intention to sell electricity to us, there shouldn't be anything preventing us from also selling electricity to neighboring countries. You can't do that without a grid. Ghana than wanted to sell electricity to us cannot be nursing that thought if all the have is island generating plants in Accra, Kumasi and co without an over-riding grid.
http://www.punchng.com/news/ghana-plans-to-export-electricity-to-nigeria/

In a sense do agree with you and I also share your sentiments, but my take has to with addressing our immediate needs by deploying quick and easy fixes here and there since addressing our archaic and almost obsolete transmission grid issues could take almost a decade at best to complete and tens of billions that we don't have on the table to build right now.

We know it's possible and could be delivered in little or no time as demonstrated in Lagos. Lagos today can ignore or sidestep the National grid for good if possible simply because they have their own underground cable system to rely on. They have aggressive Solar energy program that's presently powering many schools and health centers, they have a transformer manufacturing plant and many power plants with many or on the drawing board.

Local and federal agencies should allow utility companies to set up microgrids to serve their local population while the FG finds solution and address the national grid problem substantially..

Without significant improvements per power generation and transmission, the new administration's mass employment proclamations remains nothing but a sad dream.

gists:
I gave the example of Afam because I heard Afam is deliberately not generating to maximum installed capacity because the national grid cannot take the power (I can't confirm this but I tend to believe the story). So, the guy in ikeja may probably not be sleeping in darkness if this was not the case. Don't get me wrong because I am not asking for more money to be pumped into the grid. I just don't want us to lose that flexibility but yanking off an upper layer of connectivity as backup. Again I repeat, I am for 1000% decentralization.

Afam is suffering simply because the Grid is worthless and can not accept generated power from Afam and the story is the same all over the country. Where is the sense and wisdom in building power plants all over the place with little or no benefit in return because the grid is rotten and inefficient.

Lagos state built 5 Microgrids with 300 miles of underground transmission cables that that are now powering roads, bridges, hospitals, industries, government secretariats and other public buildings 24/7 in less than 4 years.

The only reason why the state is not investing and or accepting energy investments to supply residents with power is because of the counterproductive laws we are yet to get rid of..

But now consider this scenario: suppose Lagos alone needs more than 10 IPPs because of the share size of population and commercial entities. Who says all the IPPs have to be installed in Lagos? Lagos is even expanding into the atlantic ocean! Are we going to sacrifice schools and parks and possible further development just because of this when we have untapped land in Osun for example with less than a quarter of Lagos power needs. If Osun or Ekiti or bayelsa need 100MW for example, why not install 300 or even 500MW and transport the rest to Lagos through this upper layer? That way you keep the lifestyle in Lagos and also industries in Ogun going while generating employment in Osun/ekiti and improving their economy. This does not mean 8 out of the 10 IPPs that Lagos need cannot be installed around the Lagos state.

In summary: Retain the national grid as it is without pumping more money for now and concentrate on local generation for communities using the DISCos. The definition of community need to be clear - is it state, LGAs, LCDA, estates, streets etc). However, DISCos should be encouraged to generate more power so as to sell to other DISCos serving other communities that may need it if/when required through an upper distribution or transmission layer.

There's nothing wrong with Lagos building their own IPPs to serve their local needs. You said you are for 1000% decentralization, but still promoting centralization. Concentrating power in Osun for onward transmission over many states all the way to Lagos for distribution is centralization, you are basically leaving power infrastructure exposed over hundreds of miles.

In case of any mishap or deliberate tampering or sabotage, the whole of Lagos and several states are out of power possibly for days or weeks till the problem is located and fixed.

Osun is an agrarian society and job creation in Osun should be centered around Agric to take care of the food needs of the entire region. What they need is cheap and effective modern transportation to move goods and services to markets in Lagos and other states and supplies and machineries to Osun and surrounding Agric states, Hi-Tech Agric and storage system and so on. This is their strength and how to build wealth and generate employment in places like Osun state..

I don't think the local communities should handle this. Who will coordinate this? The local government chairmen? I believe this will be creating another mini FG in the various communities. Gov. Fashola was once credited to have said "government does not have business in business" and I completely agree with him. Let the discos handle this as a commercial venture. Nigeria is already covered by the various discos. But there may be need to reonstitute the discos to better serve the communities. Let give them power to generate and remove any bottleneck preventing them from getting finance from banks.

This is not about the local governments or LG chairman running power infrastructures or DISCOs, the is about letting utility companies set up power plants and distribution networks in designated cities and communities to serve their local needs with the government regulating their operations..

The DISCOs as they are right now are inefficient and grossly incapable of delivering anything meaningful to their customers, they are not even in any profitable situation to recoup their investments or re-invest to better their performance because the legal arrangements on the ground and the National grid are hampering their operation and performance..

Lagos state is directly benefitting from their power plants and able to provide 24/7 power to their institutions because they don't feed their generated power into the National grid for transmission, they transmit via their own 300 miles underground transmission cable network while other states are getting little or nothing in return for the hundreds of MW plants and investments. Unlike Lagos, they basically have to feed everything they generate into the grid for nothing in return, their people are still in darkness.

Spending billions of dollars on power plants with reliance on the same worthless grid to transmit makes zero sense, it's flushing down money inside the drain.

States and communities should be allowed to go ahead and take care of their power needs while the FG concentrates on the Grid as a back up system....

9jatriot:
With projects like, I still cant phantom why and how PDP was able to get more than 100k votes in lagos state. PDP idealy should not get more 38k votes for people who understand what governance is about. Well lets stay on the power issue sha.

Unfortunately for us in Nigeria, voting is not always about performance, people vote based on irrelevant and self destructive things like tribalism, religious, bigotry and so on.

Eko o ni baje o....

gists:
Does it also make sense for someone in Ikeja to keep sleeping in darkness while there is excess power in Afam in Rivers state that cannot be pushed to national grid? better still, does it makes sense for someone in Mowe/Ibafo to be sleeping in darkness while their is power in Berger simply because we refuse to make room for that flexibility? What happens to the idea of the DISCO serving Berger to sell power to the DISCO serving Mowe?
Having said that, I am 100% for decentralization (generating power nearby to the people that need it), but I also believe flexibility and robustness should not be thrown out of the window.

The problem at the moment has to do largely with the inefficient and outdated transmission grid.

They should let the local communities take care of their power needs instead of the FG wasting time and years looking for billions of dollars to build power plants and some more billions of dollars to build a new transmission system all over the country.

The FG should scrap the transmission lines and build new and more effective lines from scratch. The new transmission line can transport any excess power from the places you mentioned to needy areas or even send it out to other countries for sale.

Expressing his reservations over the inability of state governments to generate its own power, Fashola said, “it is bad enough that we don’t generate our own electricity, the public power is 12. 75k per kilowatts per hour, but we are generating our power at sometimes four or five times more than that.” According to him,”in Magodo for example, they spend N8million a day in the whole estate on diesel, when it should have cost them just about N2 million public power.

Even Lekki spends about N12m a day, when it should have cost them about N3million a day. So these are the numbers we are seeing.

So, instead of the folks in Magodo running their own generators independently, still suffer blackouts and still pay PCHN, why not just build or set up their own power system and utility company since it's cheaper and more effective.

gists:
I understand. That is why I asked earlier where do we draw the line - state level, LGAs, LCDA or at street level? Obviously every street cannot have a power plant and on the flip side of the coin, Lagos is "too big" for just one power station. But then, we can't just use Lagos as bench mark. There are over 700 LGA in Nigeria, so I don't think its economical to have 700 power stations. Some states will survive with just two or three power station while some may need up to ten or more. But my point is whatever the number of stations are in any state, there should be the flexibility to share power with other states/regions through a higher level of connectivity (i.e transmission).

LG level sounds good to me and in case of other states, they should do whatever helps their local situations...

National grid is ok for some kind of back up, but definitely not as primary system. In case of war with any other nation God forbid, they are going after your main or central transmission system to keep you in darkness, but with microgrids, they'll have to bomb out the whole country to knock you off completely...