₦airaland Forum

Adroit144:
thanks for d explanation but anoda thing is that some universities offer both courses as a separate course e.g lautech

As in Chemical Pathology and Medical Laboratory Sciences separate?,
Are you sure? i don't think so.Chemical Pathology is specialty in Laboratory Medicine and not a course someone can study singly,at least not in Nigeria.

What are you implying?
I have not seen this news anywhere else(about SLT authorized to open/operate a diagnostic Laboratory).There is no need saying anything.@irene670

irene670:
good evening good people. please i want to register and have a license for science laboratory technology. how do i go about it. i need help

Go through NISLT in your area,Or go through their site to see the procedure.

Adroit144:
pls people who can explain d difference btw a chemical pathologist and a medical lab scientist?

Chemical pathology is a specialty in Laboratory Medicine.A MLSt can also be called a chemical pathologist(if he/she specializes in ChemPath).that is,a Chemical Pathologist is a MLSt with Bias in Chemical Pathology.Medical Doctors(pathologists) can also specialize in chemical Pathology.

MrBigiman:
Even a cleaner in Nigerian hospital will soon be using the appellation Doctor. Backward country indeed.

Why are you killing yourself with this Doctor of a thing.All i am interested in is the Training of Medical Laboratory Scientists to be even more competitive within and outside the country.Keep having sleepless nights because of MLS.

CHESTER48:
Oga u can write mlst exam biko.if u pass. Ure dusted. You aplly for the licensing. It seems u don't know what new now. Lol

Keep decieving yourself bro.

ritababe:
meaning

Meaning you can't study MLS in masters Level,you can only study any of these specialization like medmicro,chempath e.t.c
It will still not make you be licensed or to function as a MLSt.

ritababe:
how please am interested

give me the full details please.

Don't worry yourself,what he is trying to say is now outdated.It doesn't exist anymore.

[quote author=CHESTER48 post=67801123]do you know u can do microbiology, come out and do medlab 2 years masters. And open up a lab? [/quote
There is nothing like 2 years Masters in MLS ,you can only do a part of MLS like heamat,chem path,med micro e.t.c.which will still not make you function in the capacity of a MLSt.
You can open a Lab alright,but the operation and running of the Laboratory will be manned by a lisenced MLSt.

Our Health Sector is ranked low because everyone is fighting eachother.We call "international best practice"when it fits our argument.
My suggestion/solution is this:
1.Every health profession should be autonomous,no professional should detect the pace of others.
2.Doctors should be the ones to Head most Directorates like Laboratory service,Radiological service.(With exception like pharmaceutical and Nursing services)
These Consultants/Doctors should work hand in hand with other professionals that are closely related to them inother to generate maximum positive result.Example;the Pathologist working closely with the MLSt to decide on the effective/right test to perform.
3.Health Adminstrators/Adminstrators should head our Teaching Hospitals/Medical Centres.When not possible,it should be OPEN to every Medical/Health professional.
4.Ministry of Health should be same as "3" above.
5.There should be a reasonable percentage of Relativity that should be agreed upon by all professional and also in relation to international practice.
6.Consultancy status should be given to Health professional that Deserve it especially Pharmacy,MLS,Radiography,Nursing and Physiotherapy.
but the requirements for consultancy status should not be Number of years spent"working"rather it should be rigourous Study,Reearch,Specialization e.t.c.In their various Postgraduate Colleges.
7.Health professionals should know that Doctors have the final say to any medication/treatment in the Hospital setting and also Doctors should not always dispute or discard any advice or suggestion from other health professional.

I think this is international best practice,once all these things are adhered to,then our health sector will have hope of improving.

Skyken99:
Will this programme kick off with those presently from 400L - 100L

OR for incoming 100L next academic session?

I don't know for now,just put your ears on the ground.Any new development will be communicated to you guys.

femianski:
pls for those of that are still in preclinicals will the new curriculum affect us??

We don't know for now.I think some machineries has to be in place before it will kickoff finally.
Maybe it would be at the decretion of each university to kick start.

Timothy3113:
1.5 Duration of the programme
The MLS.D degree programme shall run for six (6) academic sessions for Unified Tertiary Matriculation Examination (UTME) candidates and five (5) academic sessions for HND/B.Sc holders in relevant areas. Holders of the BMLS, B.Sc. or AIMLT in Medical Laboratory Science may be admitted into 500 level.

The duration for conversion of B.mls to Mls.D (2 years ) is too much..

Yea.It is too much.But you just have to look at the updated curriculum.MLS want her graduates to be competent in all areas of specialization.

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TempoJames:
Johesu is a failure! 95%(5 idiots) against 5%(1 authority). The govt knows Johesu is dispensable but the health care system can't do without doctors.
They wouldn't accede to stupid demands. skipping of level 10 and adjustment of retirement age to 65yrs is farthest the govt can go. Johesu will die of hunger at home. Doctors in public sector are still paid monthly. Those in private sector are booming this period.
NMA is a boss. They address the insurbodination of johesu, frontally! Govt can't risk provoking the ultimate detrimental action of NMA.:
If you like die... Nigerians are striving in the private sector and emergency units in d public sector. I just pity the poor ones. well chemists will boom. You will be surprise that a first degree holder in microbiology or SLT will be running lab tests for d chemists to treat the very poor ones. Traditional practitioners are replacing physiotherapists. Only those in community pharmacy will survive the hunger.
The same thing that happened to non-lecturing staffs is what will happen to johesu. The nurses will first start returning then others will join then johesu will die a painful death.
You guys only see minister of health and labour? You forgotten that Saraki, the senate president is a medical doctor?
Doctors own the Government.

And what did you say you are again?
Consultant?
Rubbish! so with everything that is been said,this is what you can comeup with.
I don't like insulting people if not i would have decend on you verbally.

ASUU don start again.it is well sha.

TempoJames:
Any other superior Arguement?

From what you posted can you infere anything.
No one is asking for equal pay with Medical Doctors because JOHESU knows there will always be relativity.All they want is upward review of CONHESS which was done for CONMESS.
we have consultants in MLS,PHARMACY,PHYSIOTHERAPY,NURSING e.T.C of course,after undergoing rigorous study. In developed countries is there any conflict in their job specification between these consultants?
That is the condition NMA should give,consultancy status should be awarded if the professional in question has fulfilled all requirements that should be agreed upon By the parties involved(NMAand JOHESU).
We have postgraduate college of pharmacy,nursing,maybe physiotherapy and recently approved MLS.All these colleges should be empowered to carryout their functions.

TempoJames:
Atleast I am sure of directors in the medical laboratories of 3 world class hospital. I have a known person working there and also I get info from their website directly. check : John Hopkins, All saint's, and Massachussets(germany) check their Directors of medical laboratory and Radiology units.and check their CMDs.
I wonder what the heck is wrong with JOHESU.
If u are not satisfied where you are come into medicine..the university doors are wide open.
Iike I said earlier ...I can bet my testes for bilateral orchidectomy...You guys can't achieve more than NMA allows.

Do we have consultant MLS in those countries you mentioned?
What about the pay?
Not everyone wants to become doctors okay.

danilmo:
haaaaaa, even ur pharm D lecturers will b laughing at u or rather I guess ure still in year1 , they don give u hope say no worry, u can also act like a doctor with ur oharm D certificate aside surgery..

am still in year 3 and am sure I gat knowledge of human body more than u , u get luck am not in path and pharm class yet.. yan yan tan..

but still, let's discuss basic knowledge,



1.

An accident victim was rushed to ur shop with saliva dropping out from his mouth , whitish fluid was also seen coming out from his ear,

pharm D, tell us how u ll help this,


2. A student fell from a tree , his right arm was dislocated, he complained of unclear vision after few minute, rushed to ur shop, what could av caused that and how will u correct this

3.
A patient all of a sudden stated having metacapophalangeal joint getting flexed uncontrollable, with deep and long breath as he was rushed to ur shop/pharm shop,

how will u help out immediately ..

4.

a lady complain of infraumbilica pain, cleared she is in her secretory phase of menstrual cycle, so not menstrual pain, what ll u be thinking next in ur mind


5.. oyani at least u should chew this one,
UR brotherwith sign of busted pimples just beneath his nasal nares complained of headaches, blurred vision, restlessness
what and what should come to ur mind,
don't fall my hand o, u should get this, and how will u advise him thereafter..

I give u my drill, am expecting urs. let's start..

So these questions are to show what?
You know more than he does,right?
Why not make your point and bounce.
i don't expect him to answer these questions anyway,it will look childish.You are still in 3rd year probably preparing for MB if you have not written.
Be humble dude.still in 3rd year and you have madeup your mind how you would employ quacks in place of professionals.
If we produce people with this kind of mindset how will our health sector function.

Skyken99:
Does it mean after five years MLS degree, one can further in NPCMLS TO become consultant after residency?

Seems so

just saw this in my class whatsapp group.

God has done it again for us!!!!!!! I understand the implication of the Senate action on 3/5/18 is that our National Postgraduate College of Medical Laboratory Science bill has now become a LAW, it no longer requires presidential assent. The NASS as required by the Constitution of Nigeria has exercised their overriding majority authority to pass the 9 bills including ours into law.

The objections of pathologists, doctors, the Minister of Health & the induced reluctance of President Buhari have been overruled by the peoples' representatives. This is the beauty of democracy.

Truly, "when strong wind comes, the grass must bend for it to pass". To God be all glory for ever, who will not allow our legitimate struggles to be in vain.
Copied from Dr. Godwin Okara

pinkylovely:
Is it possible to change course from microbiology to med lab science in RSUST while in year 1

You have to find that out yourself.
Go to your academic advicer and ask,also go to MLS department and confirm if they will accept you.

pinkylovely:
Is it possible that I can study microbiology yet be certified as a med lab scientist after getting a PGD programme in med lab science??

You can do a PGD but you will not be certified as a MedlabScientist.
The first cliteria to become a medlab scientist,is to possess a B.MLS

brojoes5030:
Can a person with 261 get medicine and surgery in unn

There is no harm in trying,261 is good but not that good for medicine and surgery in UNN.try as much as possible to score very high during postume(if there will be one).From inception of postume up to 2015,it was 50:50 not 60:40.so someone with 244 jamb and 330 postume can make it as at then.

idu1:
Are you practicing in UK presently? What's the pay like compare to RN?

No oh.I'm still a student in Nigeria.Just that i happen to know few people practicing over there,especially the US.

idu1:
nurses have a way of writing some professional exams that help them migration abroad. I want to know if med lab scientist have such opportunity?

I think there is ASCPi. you will sit for the exam in Nigeria,but the final part of it would be completed in the US.we have in the UK also.Its kind of a country's professional licensing exam that any immigrant would have to sit for, inorder to practice in the said country.

Ikio:
even ben carson was a scientist becos e viewed d situation first as a scientist. scientist work in d lab is concerns are not the patience but the disease and 2 give information 2 d doctor 2 treat them, the microbiologist, biochemist e.t.c that is there job Daht Y Dai Work In The Universities 2day. yes if e works with patience e needs licence 4 that i.e U don't need a license be a scientist but it becomes necessary if u want 2 work with patients. Its best u stop using insults on me.

Carrying out test with patient's fluid for purpose of diagnosis is different from carrying out research in the laboratory.The former is licenced(because life is involved),the latter may/maynot necessarily be licenced to carry out research.
I am sorry if i insulted you in any way.just that the topic is sensitive and we ought to be sure of what we are saying before posting.

AyanbajoSD100:
Pls Nairalanders...why are microbiologists not permitted to have or run a medical laboratory? There should be a professional course to top up as to allow us run a medical laboratory

You can have a medical Laboratory(as a business guy) but the operation and running of the Lab will be manned by A Medlab scientist.
There was a diploma course to topup your knowledge of the Medical Laboratory,but it has been scrapped because a superior degree is in use now (BMLS)
The only way to work in the laboratory is to sit for UTME/DE to study Medical Laboratory Science in an accredited University.

Ikio:
Hav never seein such kids ur if u ar a biologist, physics e.t.c in nigeria u ar also same in any where around the world but go take ur law or medical cert 2 d u.s if they won't tell u 2 write a professional exam 4 u 2 be licensed, (A Nigerian doctor is never a u.s doctor) on one wants ur license as a scientist wat they want is if u mean dere qualifications

Though i don't really understand your writeup,but i can still infere somethings .
Every country has her professional exams You will have to sit for inorder to be licensed.Anyone transferring to any country would have to sit for the country's professional exam inorder to carry the country's licence(NOT because you are not QUALIFIED)a doctor/scientist that studied abroad will still sit for Nigeria's professional exam in their respective fields if he so wishes to practice in Nigeria,does that mean he is not qualified to work in Nigeria hence the exam?.

NOW that is PROFESSIONALISM.Other courses are not professional/not a licenced course,so you don't need any to work(afterall you are not working with a license here in Nigeria)
Show me the Doctor that is working as a scientist please,you think being a medlab scientist only ends with pregnancy or malaria test.
Like i said before,educate yourself i can't educate you.But don't come here and spew rubbish out of ignorance or hate.

Ikio:
U can work in the lab.
doctors, don't produce cures those are done by biomedicals (genecist, anatomist, physiologist e.t.c) not even those in clinical medical labs, there job is 2 carry out clinical trials and use drugs.

u can work 4 d millitary.

but its best u consider agriculture.

u can consider havin 2 jobs daht joy of slt but if u want 2 me ben carson u can go 4 MBBS. u can also work in the hospital as a scientist, if u ar a genius, u really don't need a licence 2 be a sciencetist... jst hardwork and ur brains.

IF you want to say something be sure of what you are saying OK.
You don't know the work of MLS(find out)
You don't need a lisence to work in Medlabs(think again,maybe you mean in SLT)
its not about been a genius,we have genius in every profession.
Please be careful with what you post online.I don't want to educate you,just find out.

SOB18:
hello, pls I need an advice on the universities that admit B.sc holder into MLS thru D.E... Am a graduate of Microbiology..

I don't know about other schools.but in UNN,Yes they accept microbiology for DE.