SegFault:

I got 245 without reading. So what's your point.

Without Reading my Ass
My point is that you didn't pass well.

mannyiyke:
You're the only person that said it the way it is. It's not others who tried to lie. However, there are some exceptions to what you said. In NAUTH, Nnewi you mentioned, doctors are still the clinical heads, while Medical laboratory scientists are the technical heads. I did my master's in the medical microbiology and parasitology department of NAUTH. I know Prof. Akujobi, Prof. F.E. Emele, Prof. Nneka Agbakoba and one other woman professor in Medical laboratory science at Okofia, Nnewi. They all taught me. Akujobi is the only medical doctor among them, and she's a consultant clinical microbiologist. During that time, she was the clinical head, while a medical laboratory scientist was the technical head.

As I have said earlier, I'm a medical student in a state university. Besides, you may not be interested in bearing doctor, but medical laboratory scientists have been agitating for MLSC.D. One thing I like about you is that you said the truth. Medical laboratory science is good. I even wanted to do AIMLS (that 2-year conversion programme for graduates of biological sciences) after my NYSC, but due to the problem in Jos then, I refused to do it. Jos and Ahmadu Bello University Teaching Hospital did the programme last, before MLSCN stopped it. Four of my coursemates did that 2-year programme, and are now practising medical laboratory scientists. I also did my industrial training in a medical laboratory science department of a teaching hospital, during my first degree, but I heard that MLSCN had stopped undergraduates of biological sciences from doing industrial training in medical laboratory science departments. I also saw then that the HOD through whom I sent my application said that he would send it to another person to approve. It was later that I discovered that the ones he sent it to were the CMAC and the clinical head. He was the technical head. So, I have great respect for medical laboratory science. Most of them here think I'm denigrating their professions. That's not my mission. I just wanted to speak the truth about them.

I used to denigrate dentistry until I discovered it's not what I thought. I began to praise the maxillofacial surgeons, oral pathologists, prosthodontists and consultants in oral medicine when I saw their giant strides. I saw what the maxillofacial surgeons did and are still doing to help children born with cleft lip and palate, and Nigerians suffering from ameloblastoma. I was surprised to discover that dentistry is very deep like that. Before I speak about any course, I must make in-depth findings about it. Every course is good, my brother. What I hate is distortion of facts. I'll not discuss this topic again because of you. You're good.

We are good bro.
The truth is that i know about all these things and More before i chose MLS.
So i am not Regretting anything one bit.
I have My personal Opinon about what is Happening in the Health Sector.

I support the MLS.D Not because of the Doctor Attached to it but because of its Robust Curriculum and More.
Personally, I don't Support Consultancy for Other Health professional until they are able to get their own Postgraduate College to specially Train these Professionals.

But i cannot Clap For you when you Rubbish my Profession Okay

Most people in Medicine/Dentistry Feel others are inferior in knowledge etal.
I Told my Med Friends,if they Dust in Pathology i will take JAMB and Start Dentistry.
"I told them i will only listen to them when they come back as Pathologists" because they were not able to grab enough of it.

Students should Learn to know/Research what a Particular course could Offer.Its Limitations, Potentials,Advantages within and outside Nigeria,before Enrolling. So they don't end up Disappointed and frustrated.
We are in the Information age.....

Last Last just Make a Name for yourself, No Matter the course you Studied.

mannyiyke:
I didn't say that general pathologists don't read and interpret oral biopsy slides. I said that they're not good at it. They're mainly trained to read and interpret biopsy samples from other parts of the body. However, there are general pathologists who subspecialized as head and neck pathologists. But in the strict sense, oral pathologists are the main pathologists duly qualified to read and interpret oral biopsy slides, because he or she sees numerous oral biopsy samples more than general pathologists, and experience is the best teacher.

If a general pathologist does the work of an oral pathologist, why then did the Nigerian Army sponsor a dentist who is a lieutenant colonel to do a residency in oral pathology at UNTH Enugu? Stop saying what you're not sure of. Medicine needs accuracy, not guess work. That's why oral pathologists are trained to read and interpret oral biopsy slides, so as to avoid incorrect diagnoses.

Every secondary healthcare facility in Nigeria has a dental clinic. Let me ask you: have you seen neurosurgery, neurology, ophthalmology, obstetrics and gynaecology, paediatrics, urology, etc in primary tier government hospitals in Nigeria? They don't have those departments there. It's just a general medical practitioner that works there, and refers difficult cases to secondary and tertiary tier hospitals. Even neurology, neurosurgery, urology, and most times Opthalmology departments are not found in secondary tier hospitals. They're mainly domiciled in tertiary tier hospitals. On the contrary, all the general hospitals in Nigeria (which are secondary tier government hospitals) have dental clinics. It's then advanced in tertiary tier hospitals.

General pathologists are seriously involved in other parts of the body, and are not conversant with the oral and maxillofacial region. They do autopsy, receive samples from paediatrics, urology, O and G, neurosurgery, neurology, general surgery etc. So, it's not even wise to allow them to touch the oral region, to avoid confusion and misdiagnosis.

It's still the National Postgraduate Medical College of Nigeria and the West African Medical College which regulate postgraduate medical education, that thought it wise to have both of them. So, you don't know better than they do.

A medical laboratory scientist is not a pathologist, and therefore, he or she cannot own a pathology lab. And no medical laboratory scientist knows how to read and interpret biopsy slides or even interpret radiographs. Making histopathology laboratory test diagnosis is much more than that. The pathologist has to combine medical history, radiographs, etc, with the reading and interpretation of biopsy slides. These guide him or her to deliver an accurate diagnosis. So, it's ignorant of you to think that. They're only employed as technologists in pathology laboratories.

I believe you are talking in the Nigerian Context because in the UK MLSt Read slides(Those with Advance Training oh).

mannyiyke:
They're branches of pathology, of which medical laboratory science was created to help those pathologists in each of those branches of pathology. Medical laboratory scientists are technologists to pathologists. They used to be called technologists until the name was modified to medical laboratory science, while the diploma course is still called medical laboratory technology.

Before, the highest qualification attained by medical laboratory scientists (or medical laboratory technologists then) was diploma (Higher National Diploma - HND), and that's why they bore medical laboratory technologists then. So, it can still be called medical laboratory technology, because like Nigerian pharmacists, they changed the name without improving their education.

Abroad some people still call them medical laboratory technologists. The diploma ones are now called medical laboratory technicians. They head those units as technical heads. That shows they're still technologists. You're not an insider. So, you lack this information.

What you said is the truth except the Fact that there was no Improvement in Education and the curriculum.
Lets not start our own...
You know MLS Is always the Doctor's Headache

mannyiyke:
You lack facts. Didn't you see that it's oral pathologists that head that oral pathology laboratory of the University of Port Harcourt Teaching Hospital, while a medical laboratory scientist serves as a technologist there? Go to teaching hospitals and ask them who are the main (clinical) heads of medical laboratory science departments there. It's even the medical laboratory scientists that will show you the medical doctors who are the heads. A medical laboratory scientist is just a technical head.

Laboratory medicine (or pathology specifically) supersedes medical laboratory science. Histopathology, haematology, chemical pathology, clinical microbiology and immunology are all branches of pathology or laboratory medicine, not medical laboratory science.


Medical laboratory scientists are technologists. That's why their head is called a technical head, while medical doctors are the clinical heads. They used to bear medical laboratory technologists before.

In as Much as i understand your point,MLS is still part of Laboratory Medicine/Pathology.
MLS is coming from the Technical Angle while Doctors Come from the Clincal Angle.
I know because i have Seen it.
Nothing Supersedes the other. I am Judging from international Practice.
Remember in the UK both pass through Royal college of Pathology or the US with ASCP.
Forget about the politics in Nigeria.

In the US, PhD Medical Laboratory Scientist and Pathologist is at Par,but when Clincal skill is Needed,the Pathologist should take over especially in the Hospital Settings.i give it to them.
UNIZIK Teaching Hospital have MLSt as their HOD....So its not Always the Pathologist that are HODs of Pathology Lab.
With time everything will Normalize.
I am not Against Doctors and Never will be.
If i am interested in being Called a "doctor" i would have changed to Dentistry

Let's stop this Comparison

BSF:


Because he knows what you do not know about KWASU, especially in that field and corresponding derivates.

He/she will Change institution..
Just saying......

SegFault:
Is it not the same jamb that I only knew three questions in chemistry, about fourteen in physics, twenty in mathematics, a lot in English and still got 245 rubbish. JAMB na scam, hustle and leave this nonsense place for a better country, last last you gas still drop for lecturers before they give you admission and after. Mtccheew

Common JAMB you no Fit pass.. how you wn Fare for white Man Land?

No Mind me Jare

Make una forget this Tribal Whatever joor...

So JAMB wn Tell us Say our Medical Champions no do well for UTME??
Na only Engineering Full Here.

Oboy e dn do for una oh

@Manny, because Those in Health Sciences Except Physiotherapy do not Offer All Basic Medical Science Courses Doesn't Mean They don't offer them in other Schools.

All Medical Courses Offer Same throughout...

Last Last, e dn do abeg.

mannyiyke:
And who told you that 218 was the aggregate? Stop confusing yourself. The aggregate was 245, and I know someone who got into pharmacy with an aggregate of 240 then. So, stop saying what you don't know. Stop quoting 218 as if it's the aggregate. Somebody got 190 in UTME and got 320 in post-utme. He's a medical student today. It's the aggregate that matters. Even an aggregate of 190 can get crop science in Uniben. Uniben doesn't calculate an aggregate based on UTME alone. So, stop basing admission on UTME alone. Besides, some students of pharmacy wanted medicine, but they didn't do well in UTME. So, it's not a lie. Instead of persevering to get a better score next time, they threw in the towel. When they graduated, some of them chose to study medicine again, while some became Johesuites.

I didn't type rubbish. I'm already a clinical student, and I'll graduate in no distant time. There's nothing like if I can. That's not my portion. Besides, I did my youth service in a pharmacy. So, I got most of my information from there. I had a lot of business encounters with medical sales reps then. So, I know what I'm saying about pharmacy. Those sales reps can only make it if they work hard, just like bank marketers. And there's no multinational pharmaceutical company that pays such huge amounts of money you reeled out. It's only in the oil and ICT sectors that such an amount of money is paid. Also, the guy you quoted stated that he has a private business, and at the same time working as a sales reps for 3 pharmaceutical companies. That shows he had put in a lot of years and hustle into the business.

Most pharmacists aren't good business men and women. From the experience I garnered when I did my youth service in a pharmacy, most of the pharmaceutical shops in Maiduguri then were owned by non-pharmacists who passed through apprenticeship. I've made a similar observation elsewhere too. And those pharmacists I know are eager to be employed in government hospitals. So, your comments here are not a reflection of the real life situations I've seen.

Moreover, pharmacy education in Nigeria isn't that practical. The hands-on experience is only got through those pharmaceutical production companies. It's the fault of the government. It's a systemic failure that cuts across every course in Nigerian public universities. So, government's neglect led to that, especially pharmacy that is supposed to be mainly practical. Therefore, most pharmacy graduates in Nigeria are not equipped practically after graduation. In fact, medical sales reps jobs are a sort of denigration for pharmacists. It's supposed to be a marketers' job. I don't blame them sha, because if they can't get the real job probably due to lack of competence, they should make do with sales reps. They get to make a lot of money from it based on hardwork. However, non-pharmacists are also medical sales reps. So, we have to tell ourselves the truth, instead of hy orping pharmacy in Nigeria.

On a Very sincere Note, i agree with you.

TheRealProphet:
Better than UNN
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Hahahahahaha
You wicked

Hunt27:
Lol...you think so?

Watch and see.

sassysure:

I'm coming from a different angle. Don't wanna go further that's why I ended it that way

Its nice to make your point clear.

ursullalinda:
Most parents are not even ready to send their children to school.......a lot of children can't take precautions

Those in Tertiary Institutions can't take precautions??

Well i know school will not Open until Elites' children are all back to school in the US, UK e. t.c

FrankBass281:
FG should calm down,school is not on my agenda now,still working on my abs so that I can get my dream girl angelica when school reaumes

Hahahahahaha
Better go Hustle

Johnblakii:
Lol... you bet your balls?
what else do they do in the lab abeg?
did they teach you what microbiology is?
because you did not get a job as a microbiologist? because the brain-dead school you went to contains graduates of microbiology that did not get job in their field?
guy, microbiologists are getting jobs.. u just don't know,,
check out this pic.. how many years it will take you to be a lab technician that you people are fighting for... This is from the American Society of microbiology...

How Many MCB graduates are Fully Employed in the Field of Microbiology?
And Mind you, we are not Talking about MedLab Technician Here .

Bro, you don't have anything else to say.
Enjoy your MCB but the Fact still remains,
MLS is the better Option within and outside.

Mr MLS doesn't work in NCDC

PVision2020:

What's past glory about 10 years ago.
In ten years OAU was the best 5 times while UNN only came top once. You know ratings aren't static so you can pick a year and claim you're the best.
What can be more consistent than being the best for 5 consecutive years?

Have you checked Time Higher education Ranking(The Most reputable) and tell me how Many Times OAU is better.

PVision2020:

That's the current rating...Can you check for the past 10years? That Liverpool is the current UCL champion doesn't make it better than Realmadrid.

Do you want to be living in past Glory.
Since 2016 till date UNN has done well in that Regard.
The comparison is not Same.
UNN has been consistent for years now.

PVision2020:
According to Webometric and most other University rating bodies, in the last decade alone, OAU was the best Nigeria University for consecutive 5 years (The first Nigerian University to achieve such feat).
https://theeagleonline.com.ng/oau-retains-best-nigerian-university-in-latest-webometrics-ranking/
In all professional exams e.g ICAN, COREN, LAW SCHOOL UNN no dey see IFE backlight.

We only compete against UI and maybe UNILAG not some glorified Pig pen.

Webometrics and THE Ranking UNN has always being Ahead of OAU.
she is only behind UI and Covenant University.

Mrkcee:

Go bless you!

Forget this thing.
UNN is not trying at all.
UNN is not the only University that has produced Quality Graduates.
The Topic is about Infrastructure Which UNN lack.
Which building is even worth it in Nsukka Campus?
Let me not Mention Enugu Campus because that one is nothing to write Home About.

I am a Lion. I do argue, though blindly, that it was because of Lack of funding, we were being Marginalized bla bla bla...
Until 2 years ago,i saw the the Budget of Federal Universities and i was Ashamed and Disappointed.
Since then,i knew UNN Adminstration has Failed woefully.
With High School fees, Top 3 Most Funded University, Nothing! Absolutely Nothing to show! ^[/sup][sup]

johnpablo541:


No sir, the first(main) gate is the one by the security office.


How many times did you use the green house gate. I past there only twice during my time on campus. You hardly even find cars passing through it.

The Green house gate(South gate) Is the University Main Gate.
Most Dignitaries coming to UNN use the South Gate.
The North Gate which we all Know is frequently used because it is closer to market and other places.

Figger:
UNN is my alma mata but truth be told, there's nothing to brag about structurally, don't know if it's because it is located in the South east or something.

Hahahahahaha
Since they started this drone Shot, i just keep shut, because i know UNN is a disappointment.
But I will still choose the School over any other school for Naija.

mannyiyke:
Doctors don't intrude.

Keep Deceiving yourself, but i won't argue that with you.

mannyiyke:
Let them be satisfied with what they can offer, instead of intruding into medicine.

We all intrude jare.
Like i said, Nobody is a saint.
We are all Guilty of it.

mannyiyke:
Everyone knows his or her job abroad, and other health professionals don't bear doctor in the hospitals there.

I don't Care sha...
Its not Like Bearing Doctor will make bags of money Appear in my House.
I am just tired of all these Arguments Everytime.
Everyone should be Satisfied with what a particular profession can Offer.if you are Not,by all Means, Change.

mannyiyke:
pharmacists want to do ward round. With this Pharm.D, they'll claim they're medical doctors in the hospital. Most of them do it in their pharmaceutical shops, siting IV lines and treating patients as if they're medical doctors. Medical laboratory scientists are not left out too. They do uncountable tests and prescribe drugs. These are unethical.

What is your problem if i may ask.
Outside the country that they have Pharm D etal why are they not complaining.
The truth is that, A good and well trained Pharmacist/MLSt know when to Refer a patient to see a Doctor.
Its not as if Doctors are Saints too in terms of Unethical behaviours.

UNN sef.
I am a Lion any day any time.

tillaman:
Believing I was bulletproof
There was one time I believed I could fly too but it ended in tears
Damn you superman

I actually Allowed a Spider to bit me, hoping i would become Spider Man.

chrish:
When my mum gave birth to my younger sister I was surprised to see her curly hair. I asked my mum if there is a saloon in her tommy, she said yes that when a baby is about to come out he/she will go to the saloon and make their hair. I believed her.

I can't stop Laughing

Digableplanets6:





About the mirror go look up bloody mary on google and no matter what you do ,do not practice it.

I am not looking anything up abeg
Make i know the one weh de disturb me.

I used to think in Music Videos, the Musician Usually Change their cloth very Fast and continue the music with another cloth

If you bend down to eat, the Food will come out of your Anus at once.

When you take some particles from a dog's Eyes and put it in yours, you will see spirits.

If you Look at the Mirror in the Dark, you will See Witch

I believed couple would pray to God, and he will Drop a Baby on their Bed.


Can't Remember Most of them Again.

Professorcplus:
If it's rainy and sunny at the same time, then lioness just gave birth.

If a teacher flogs you, soak that body part inside garri and see the teacher's hand swell up the next day

[b] To get money, kill a Red head agama lizard, cut the head and bury it for three days, come back later to dig out your naira note.

To make a bird motionless or stand still above the sky, just hit a nail on the floor, step your big toe on it. point your index finder towards it and stretch it backward with your other index finger.

About that Bird own...
It Looked Like it Worked very well
Good old days