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Leonbonapart:
for the fact that my bible afore warn me about sciences make me glad and never wanna argue

Yea. Not really calling for an argument, just pointing out why you shouldn't make such bold and unsubstantiated claims especially as a diss to science.

Have a nice evening.

Leonbonapart:
made to believe? Maybe the world creates itself. what do you think?

Lol. I don't remember raising the topic of the origin of the universe and living organisms. I was referring to your claims of virgin birth et. al.

KahlDrogo:
Go and preach that nonsense to your blothers. They took the first shot.

And so? Must you you drag yourself in the same mud? Must you stoop this low?

Leonbonapart:
Both doctors and science are contrary to the word and will of God...
science should explain how a virgin was able to conceive with sperm or knowing a man, how the burning furnace couldn't hurt the four, how a man was raised to heaven with his body, soul and spirit....






















I am on the LORD'S side

You say these with so much confidence that someone would be tempted to think you actually have any reliable and empirical evidence that those things actually happened, except that they are solely accepted claims based on faith.

Science may have its limitations, but I've not seen any of y'all Bible thumpers do a tenth of what it has helped humanity achieved.

KahlDrogo:
She is not a Wawa Jew. That is all that matters to me. She is most likely not to have the morphology of the posterior limbs like those below.

This is childish, embarrassing and it is soiling the image of this forum. Sometimes, I wonder if those of you doing it are 13years old and below but then again, my 13years old kid brother wouldn't be caught doing this.

Jhaytee4all:
and don't let me repeat it again...

Sighs...

Jhaytee4all:
I'm not sure you know what you are doing too :-/

Can anyone be this pathetic? Editing my own comment? Come on...

Jhaytee4all:
joyfully SNUBBED & IGNORED ..

There is only one tryue LIVING GOD... Jehovah .

Actually, there is only one true living God, The Invisible Flying Calabash. Jehovah is just one of the many gods made up by stubborn and foolish humans.

Joyfully snubbed and ignored, yet you quote and reply, I'm not sure you know the meaning of that sentence, or those two words there.

IdiAmin2:
we all did one time or another, cos our parents indoctrinated that bullshit into us a toddlers singing "jesus loves me this i know, for the bible tells me so" before we knew how to reason and think for ourselves
but we grew older and started to ask questions, information age came after year 2k, and we could research the origin of what we were taught
but unfortunately majority of the masses will follow that hogwash till they die

Majority of the masses will follow the hogwash till they die, unfortunately, is a pitiable reality. It is true atheism or freethinking doesn't automatically turn you to an Einstein but it takes a great thinker to actually begin to reflect on his/her beliefs and investigate how they were arrived at. Fear and ignorance. Religious idiocy thrives on those two and our parents are/were victims just like many others. We are in the age of enlightenment and no one shall cower us with the fear of an unknown, or worse, imaginary afterlife. Never again.

How did I ever believe this hogwash?

themonk:
The way people conclude on certain things is disturbing, just because you weren't born gay doesn't mean the next person isn't born gay. maybe your gay activities were influenced by environment but some people were born in such a way they are only attracted to their sex or both sexes. most gays even display characters that suggest this from childhood, some guys that display girl-like characters turn out to be homosexual and same for girls too.

I always tell people if pastors say gays are demon possessed they should go and find gays around the world and cast out those demons or else forever remain silent, it is pathetic that because Nigeria is a over religious country we applaud anti-gay laws. if only you feel the way these people feel, someone denying you the privilege of your sexual orientation and all that. its just like black people centuries ago when whites denied that we are just as human as they are and used this lie to justify slavery and subject us to animal-like conditions. if you feel bad when someone calls you a monkey, you shouldn't relegate gays.

saying nobody is born gay is ridiculous because there are other 1,500 different species that practice homosexuality, can we say they are not born gay too?

PS: i am not gay and i am not anti-gay. i stand for justice for all.

I'd very much like to share this on my FB wall. Do I have your permission?

You don't know anything, all of you mocking Yahweh are going to roast in a celestial oven while Yahweh enjoys the smell of your melting skin.

Wait, won't our skin have decayed here on earth, what the hell is gonna be roasted?

mrmrmister:
"it was a result of sin"

What word can be used in place of the above?

No be punishment, na reward.

Mental gymnasts.

Freedom. Education. Exposure.

I think at some point, every atheist before abandoning his/her god would have asked him/herself this questions...

1. Why do I even think there is god?

2. What makes my own version of god more authentic than others'?

3. Are the stories I've been fed from childhood really through? (Now my kid brother has been asking me this particular question for some thine now).

These are just some of the many questions whose answers lead many away from the god idea, some to deism, some to other religions and others to atheism.

Something we can all agree on is that the way religion is played in Nigeria leaves much to be desired, but that is not enough reason, the worse that can lead to is a rise in the number of irreligious theists.

This is one of such occasions when you wish there actually is a god, who really gives a fyck.

eyeview:
The atheist think it's Jesus that they insult up and down and walk Scot free.

This is why most atheists prefer to insult Christ, the church and Christians but cowardly avoid Islam.

To every atheist reading this, that you are able to come on social media to insult and desecrate Christ without this kind of instant justice shows you are already enjoying Christ's grace purchased by His blood on the cross. So enjoy.

you should go on to social platforms other than nairaland, most atheists prefer to criticise Christianity because most were once Christians. it is that simple. When you visit other platforms, you'll realise ex-muslims criticise Islam with the same fervour as many Christians do Christianity here.

To me, both Christianity and Islam are kids of the same parents, just that one as them woke up to the reality of the modern times, hence its embrace of liberalism.

We all know the record created by Yahweh in the Old Testament, it is only surprising that that same god who would go on a killing spree at the tip of a hat suddenly becomes a gentle kindhearted lover who hates to see even a fly gets hurt.

The evolutionary deity.

johnydon22:
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You don't always get to find ignorance and arrogance in the same person, but I applaud the o.p. for such a commendable feat.

benzics:
You understand that the above quote is coming from an Apologist born thousands of years after that passage was written, there was nowhere in the bible that signified Joshua prayed for darkness..

Unless an Apologist knows more about the bible than the writers themselves, same way James and John know more than Jesus

no sane person can defend the bible without adjusting it here and there, adding a few things and chipping off some rough edges. Unfortunately, at the end of the day, what you have isn't the bible again. Explains why there are so many denominations and sects in Christianity. Everyone with his or her own explanation.

Certitude:
A religious cat is always fighting what is not there. My mum was always fighting a perceived witch with her prayers. My friend in school are always apprehensive- we had our project approved just two weeks before exams- they already feel something is against them.
They already know my stance, they already told me that my experience with my supervisor will make me acknowledge GOD.

I'm keeping it a secret from my parents and my uncle with his wife. They are going through a lot and i can't afford to tell 'em.
There are lotta things i can't say here.

I can relate with your first paragraph. There is virtually nothing an unbeliever faces, that a believer doesn't. We all fall sick, lose loved ones, suffer set backs s in careers and relationships, etc. I am atheist and I still top my class, in spite of the Muslims and Christians in my class who think they deserve the best because they serve the true god.

And again, what sort of god chooses to prove himself to a skeptic by messing up his/her life? Why should your god make things difficult for me just to prove his/her/its existence when there are better, effective and convincing way of doing just that? This part actually bothers me about theists, Christians especially, makes one wonder the amount of damage religion actually does to people.

ValentineMary:
Because we don't know how something happened does not give us the excuse to put an imaginary being which also can't be proven. What's the error in this practice? We tend to give up easily when faced with really challenging problems. Let us assume I have no knowledge of geography and I saw a tornado, and I conclude that because I don't know how the tornado is formed, the God of the sun is causing it that would be false but it would block any future reasoning or investigation in that field.

This my friend, is the reason why I've never taken deism serious. To me, there is only a little difference between it and theism. There is nothing wrong in admitting we don't know yet.

I usually tell people, science is our best shot at finding out the origin of life and the entire universe, certainly not religion. Why? Because the former is built on knowledge and evidence, while the latter is built on ignorance and assumptions.

I stopped bothering about these folks already. Conversing with them can induce migraine. I wouldn't bother myself if they could just keep their folly to themselves, but no, they won't. How can anyone point to the bible as evidence of anything?

FYI, The bible proves nothing, except that some people wrote a book. My advice these days is this, read books on history, biology and physics. Then maybe you'll actually learn something.

sircrabo:
Cheap blackmail from a cheap woman. If she claims she had an affair with Apostle Suleiman, she should come out with concrete evidence. What i see in the picture is a man lying on his bed with his earpiece in his ear and nothing more. Are men of God not allowed to use gadgets and technology ?

As for her picture in the background, any graphics artist can do that. It was poorly edited.

All this temptations started after his issues with Hell rufai, the BMC might have gotten involved in this.

I dont attend his church but all i see is a gang up aimed at destroying his image.


I know all the atheists in nairaland and unbelievers will love this kind of news.

Thats a lesson every pastor should learn, never get too close to your followers especially women, they have brought a lot of great men down.

We may not believe in god, but that doesn't take away our sense of justice. I for one am finding this whole saga fishy, the timing is suspicious. Moreover, this pictures do not prove anything.

Seems to me like he is getting punished for stepping on some big toes. But you never can tell, so let's all just observe as it all unfolds.

Raphael81:
Don't worry bro, I still have you in my prayers

Like I always say to theists, stop wasting your prayers on mundane things. Millions of children around the world could use your god's intervention. Hundreds die daily, from diseases, war and hunger. Why don't you tell/pray to your god to do something about that. oh, I forgot, he is busy preparing the lake of fire. How does that sht even works?

So Mr. prayer warrior, whenever you wanna pray to your sky daddy, remember to actually ask for things the world needs, like the cure for cancer, clean water for millions of African children, and since you believe the devil is the cause of all evil, let him just defeat him once and for all so that we can all have a happy ever after.

Raphael81:
Ha go and be a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, confusionist,, Taoist, Maoist, Hindu or anything, just try and find a being to worship biko

I am god myself. So no, but thank you.

Raphael81:
Are u atheist bro? Not bad but try and come home soon especially if you were not born an atheist

Home to what if I may ask?

It is called indoctrination friend. A lifetime of brainwashing is not something that can be easily repaired within a few weeks.

My only concern is this, don't leave Christianity because you think Yahweh has disappointed you, or because your prayers weren't answered. This is because atheism doesn't promise you anything. There is no magic fairy, but there is no Bleep.ng devil/Satan to stop you.

Analyse your faith/Religion critically, read books, especially on history, physics and biology. Question your faith critically, unemotionally.

Study Christianity from an objective point of view, don't be afraid that Yahweh will strike you dead if you ask questions, he won't, he can't. Study other religions too, you will be amazed by the things you will find out.

Finally, don't stop going to church. Believe in yourself and what you can achieve if you set your heart and hand to it. Begin to develop yourself, learn to depend on yourself, that way, the disappointments will vanish.

Do you believe in Thor? Odin? Ra? Vishnu? Krishna? i doubt.

This shit can be really frustrating. The reason why you don't believe in other gods is the reason why I don't believe in yours and all others. You can't really blame someone for not believing you can fly if you can't prove same to him/her, it is really that simple.

But no, theists will rather kill themselves for not sharing in their delusion. And quit with that "it is because they want to sin and not be held accountable" shit, it is really getting stale.

akintom:
If you have, then you ought to have discern that am an atheist.

Or the Holy Spirit doesn't know that atheists exist.

I don't think it does. Poor holy spirit. I think we have enough evidence in the last year to conclude that the holy spirit doesn't see farther than science can.

CatfishBilly:
My belief in God is hinged on only one factor.
The human body. It is too magnificent to have come about by accident. My religious background may have led me to attribute that to a God, no disputing that. That's the one question I need answers to. I've gotten answers to my other questions.

There are so many questions, yet little or no answers. Yours is just one of them. Yours is an intelligent deduction, but the problem is that it is merely a speculation, or at best an assumption, and students of science know how dangerous those can be. Like many atheists will posit, if the complexity of the human body and nature in general is the reason why they need a god, then how did that god come about? Complex as he/she/it is. And we could always explain the universe with that same assertion. if god could exist without a creator, then why can't the universe come about without a creator? Remember, these are all just assumptions.

Wilgrea7:
no.. my responses are based on either the motive of the person, the level of knowledge and wisdom of the person or the audience of the person or a combination of all.. that's why i hardly answer atheists.. i could refute their arguments but they argue with the aim of ridiculing Christianity.. so arguing is pointless.. i prefer discussing with people who are more open minded

It is hard to discuss with theists without becoming argumentative about it. Mostly because they start assuming they know everything about you and the reason why you left the faith. Only few are capable of concentrating on the topic of discussion. The rest just sign off promising to pray for you, methinks they should channel their prayer to more important things.

If you consider pointing out the obvious flaws of Christianity 'ridiculing,' then I guess I am guilty as charged.

And how much is one litter of PMS?

CatfishBilly:
I was a Christian growing up, I read the Quran in secondary school. I hung out with Hinduist in my university days, even attending a religious meeting with them.
I believe in God, but not in the religious sense. Let's say I'm more agnostic than atheist or Agnostic Atheist like one of my friend's call me.

I've always considered that path, but what I ask myself is this; would I consider deism if I didn't have a religious background? I think it is better to seek for answers on a clean slate, this is because a preconceived notion or belief that there is a god, albeit an unreligious one, will most likely render our findings concerning the origin of life and the universe subject to bias and subjectivity.

I am atheist, until I am fully and undoubtedly convinced to become otherwise.