₦airaland Forum

Radoillo:
Southern Africa had Zimbabwe, Mapubgubwe, etc. You should look them up.

Not to belittle the Fulani, but the three prime empires that stand out the most in the history of the West African sahel were not created or run by your so-called "Hamites".

Whatever makes you go to sleep at night. How can Bantus/Nilotic who outnumber Cushitic 8 to 1 not have accomplished what we have?

Radoillo:
You are quoting the obsolete; discredited works of Seligman in the 21st century? Seriously? Do you know how far anthropological scieonce has come since Seligman wrote his crap?

Why have you refused to get a modern education, Somali ?

He may use words that many dont know like hermetic, but if you see the history of Cushitic people, then you can easily see his work is right. Bantus couldn't defend themselves against outsiders no matter where they were.


You just dont like to hear the facts.

Radoillo:
Fulani and Touareg built Mali andSonghai and Ghana. LOL. Troll on, dude.

I need you to tell me 'Hamites' also built the stone structures of Great Zimbabwe, created the naturalistic sculptures of Ife, the earthmounds around Benin City, etc.

Am not saying Negroid didnt built anything. I am just saying all the advancement in Africa is cause of "Hamitic" people. Everything from Nubia, Kush, Axum, Punt, Ancient Egypt, Abyssinia, Adal, Ajuran etc and Tuaregs, Fulanis, and North Africa are all Hamtic people.


Look where Hamtic people didnt live which his Southern Africa, there is no progress there, their are Bushman still there.

Radoillo:
Funny. Thanks to genetic studies, we now understand the Tutsi phenomenon better. It turns out they were originally Nilo-Saharan pastoralists absorbed by Bantu people. You might want to get rid of that Negro-Cushitic thing you just wrote and move on with the rest of the informed world.

Negro-Hamitic is the term used by Seligman (god rest his soul and may he enter paradise). Clearly they are not Pure like Somalis. Even Tutsi will tell you that their forefathers emigrated from Ethiopia

providence338:
I know they were largely Nubians/Sudanese. They border Egypt, so this shouldn't come as a surprise.
'Cushite' was a blanket term used by non-Africans for all Black groups outside of Egypt, including India, Arabia, the Levant and Mesopotamia. This actually included the probably small number of Bantu groups they came in contact with. They made no distinction, everyone Black was a 'burnt-face' which is what Cushite means, even the Black Indians or Dravidians were regularly called "Cushites with straight hair". That's how the name 'Hindu Kush' derived its name. A Cushite is an all-encompassing, pejorative word for Black, period. Bantu, Nilo-Saharan, Asiatic, and Indians were all Cushites, that's the point I wanted to drive home.

Stop trying to attach yourself to Cushitics. That word was used to describe the people in The Horn by themselves. Why do you keep adding Bantus who were slaves in the Horn to your theory. Bantus didnt even govern any of these CUSHITIC NATIONS.

WTF, get a life and stop trying to rewrite history

AfricanApple:
oh! you could still be a Somalian though.
Somali from which country

No such thing as Somalian. Somali is an ethnicity, the country is named after us, which is called Somalia. No need to add 'an' to the country when its origin comes from the ethnic group: Somali.

I am from Somalia.

Omarbah:
Then both the Fulanis and Tutsis are considered as Hamitic .
Now on serious note, you should know these sort of theories are what divides Africans. They are the ones that lead to things like the genocide in Rwanda. They always come from people that life outside of our continent . Once posited, they let us fight and come scrap the resources.
What do you think should be done for Somalia to come back to peace? Ii told a friend of mine that we should let Al Shebab have their ISlamic state.

Ofcourse. Tutsis are Negro-Hamitic as they mixed with Cushitic but are not pure.

The Hamtic theory is basically a fact as anyone with eyes can see.

If you look at east Africa, Bantus were nothing but slaves, it was Cushitic (Hamtic) people colonizing Egypt, Sudan, Arabia and the Bantus. We even defeated the Portagese. In West Africa it was the Tuareg and Fulanis who brough Islam and build Mali and other kingdoms. In South Africa where there were no Hamitic people, nothing happened.


North Africans are considered Hamitic (northern Hamites). And you can see this by the history of Carthage and their war with Rome.


Somalis should be left alone. We will decide our future. Alshabaab cannot govern Somalia unless all the Somali clans want them too, as each clan has its own land.

I dont care about Africa man. Thats the first thing you fail to understand. I see Bantus like I see Whites, am indifferent to them, neither is my brother.

providence338:
Alright, now you're pissing me off, b/c I can see I'm dealing with a dull individual.
Scroll up to your reply to my pics of Black slaves in Egypt. No one, not even your buddy, called those people Bantus but you.
For the second (and last) time, SHOW PROOF that those Black slaves were Bantus, like you claimed.

If your talking about the Bantus in Somalia, they were enslaved the last 500 years, and has nothing to do with Egypt. Its well known that Somalis enslaved Bantus, it was part of the Arab slave trade. Google yourself. Bantus/Nilotic were also slaves in Ethiopia.

AfricanApple:
Axum, are you a Somalian?

The proper word is Somali, yes I am Somali.

Omarbah:
Yeah.

I believe in that theory

Omarbah:
Yeah.

What do you think?

Omarbah:
Axum, do you believe in Hamitic theory?

Is it the theory that people who are Hamitic (Cushitic) contributed to advancement of anything positive in Africa?

providence338:
And you're new to the whole 'reading comprehension' thing. The hieroglyphs I posted were long before the events you posted in that article (that's a shame a European colonial power had to abolish slavery in your own homeland). But I digress. Show proof that the artifacts I posted of Black slaves in Ancient Egypt were Bantus.

You are confused, what do bantus in Somalis who were slaves have to do with egypt?

Omarbah:
How come in your conclusion you say you were the same meaning and just before that you say " the mixing happened in the last couple hundred years" ? If Somalis and Oromos were the same before the mixing, would any intermarriage be called mixing?

am talking about the mixing that happened that separted Oromos in northern Ethiopia from Oromos near Somalis. This happened in the 1500's when Somalis took over much of Ethiopia. Even though we are the same people, that mixing was more of cultural and religious mixing as we look the same. The mixing of the Oromos with Omatic people certainly changed them from the Cushitic people general look.

providence338:
Bantus are central and southern peoples. They never dwelled near North African/Egypt populations and you know this. Why are you lying?

You obviously are new to this Somalia history thing. You would know their are Bantus in Somalia. This is common knowledge, there is a group called Somali bantu, they are not ethnically Somali, but are Bantus who were enslaved in Somalia for hundreds of years.

Radoillo:
That some Omotic people and even some of the Nilotic groups in southwest Ethiopia mixed with Cushitics in later periods of history does not in any way mean that the oldest remains found there were those of Cushitic people.

Their not mixed with us, the came from us. Mixing if they were somatic would mean their was such thing as a Omatic and a Cushitic identity.

Am just saying.

Radoillo:
Ohhkay! I see. Is this why you, and a couple other Somalis online always claim Cushitics are the oldest people in the world?

First, you need to understand that the oldest human remains from Ethiopia actually come from the southwest where the non-Cushitic Omotic tribes have always lived.
You have already said yourself that Cushitics originated in the Central Ethiopian highlands.


Second, genetic studies have already proven that the Khoisan people, now limited to Southern Africa, are the oldest branch of the human family.

Language. Anthropologist now believe the oldest language spoken by man most likely contained click sounds still preserved in the language of the Khoisan and the related Hadza of Tanzania.

We are talking modern humans, one of the oldest languages is Cushitic. When people were making clicking sounds we were not exactly the same species we are today.

Asides you will see the Omatic people too have our DNA.

Cushitic kids (Somali)

Cushitic women (Afar)

Cushitic kids (all these are Somali)

Peterockcephas:
don't get me wrong..... am sorry if I stepped on your nerves

Your entitled to your opinion. No nerve stepped on. Everyone has eyes and can see for themselves. No need for your opinion.

Cushitic women (all these are Somali)

Cushitic women (all are Somali)

Cushitic women (all these are Somali)

Peterockcephas:
abi ooo.... they're damn ugly

That says a lot considering how Nigerians look. Plz leave the thread. Show yourself out.

Cushitic women (all these are Somali)